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KQ9x 8xx AQxx xx
Ax KQTxx xx KQTx
You play in 4H. Auction was 3 passes to you. You opened 1H. A top pro on your left Xed. Partner bid 2N showing a limit raise (no comment on this bid please lol). You jumped to 4H and LHO leads the jack of diamonds (standard). What's your plan?
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Posted 2006-February-13, 11:17
I take the ace, play three rounds of spades discarding my other diamond, and play a club to the king (followed by the club queen if it holds). Plan is to ruff one club and play a trump to the ten later.
I am sure you will tell me that ♦K and ♣A were onside, and ♥J offside.
Arend
I am sure you will tell me that ♦K and ♣A were onside, and ♥J offside.
Arend
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Posted 2006-February-13, 14:57
Finesse the diamond Q if it holds then lead a club to the King.
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#4 Guest_Jlall_*
Posted 2006-February-13, 15:19
If you don't hook the diamond, I'll tell you how you did later (there's not much to the play anymore). If you do, it loses and a low club comes back to the king and ace. Now a diamond comes back. You win the ace and do what?
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Posted 2006-February-13, 15:49
Well I hook the diamond at trick 1. If it loses I am playing LHO for a stiff trump ace (low trump from both hands and then later hook against the J). If the diamond hook wins, I play a trump to the K and the CK out of my hand. I am pretty sure that I don't need a club ruff and can squeeze LHO in the end game (especially if he ducks the CK).
Anyway, thats my first thought.
Josh
Anyway, thats my first thought.
Josh
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Posted 2006-February-13, 18:12
I prefer to win the ♦A, three rounds of spades (discarding a diamond), and hearts to the T. Ruff the return, and ♣K.
3 spades, 4 trumps, 2 clubs and 1 diamond add up to 10 tricks.
3 spades, 4 trumps, 2 clubs and 1 diamond add up to 10 tricks.
#7 Guest_Jlall_*
Posted 2006-February-14, 09:15
For those that win the DA and play 3 rounds of spades when LHO next gets in he will play a 4th spade and RHO will shake a club. If you ever try and ruff clubs in dummy RHO will overruff.
Foreseeing that I also tried the diamond finesse. When that lost I followed joshs's line of ducking a heart completely. I would have felt stupid if they were 3-2 the whole time, but the passed hand t/o X is very likely to deliver a stiff heart (good players usually wouldn't X with a balanced hand 10 or 11 opposite a passed partner as there is no point). It was indeed stiff ace.
Foreseeing that I also tried the diamond finesse. When that lost I followed joshs's line of ducking a heart completely. I would have felt stupid if they were 3-2 the whole time, but the passed hand t/o X is very likely to deliver a stiff heart (good players usually wouldn't X with a balanced hand 10 or 11 opposite a passed partner as there is no point). It was indeed stiff ace.
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Posted 2006-February-14, 09:18
Too late for me to comment, but I don't see the point of rejecting the diamond finesse. It might well be right, and you will struggle to ruff two clubs in dummy anyway, so you aren't losing.
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Posted 2006-February-15, 06:05
My line is ♦A, ♠AKQ and ♣ to the 10, Alas!, don't think I'll be ever back on dummy to try the ♥ finese 
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Posted 2006-February-15, 06:11
It's a good trump position. Inventing the pips, suppose the trump layout were
832
KQ1054
with J976 on your left.
Tell me you'd have ducked completely if East put the 9 in on the first round, and you wouldn't have played him for AJ9.
832
KQ1054
with J976 on your left.
Tell me you'd have ducked completely if East put the 9 in on the first round, and you wouldn't have played him for AJ9.
#11 Guest_Jlall_*
Posted 2006-February-15, 08:44
Well, I didnt mention this but I actually had 87x opp KQT52. I screamed for the 8 and the client on my right played the 9. This was just more confusing because I had to figure out if they would really play 9 from J962. I decided they would always cover anyways.
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Posted 2006-February-15, 08:52
Doesn't that mean you should have asked for 'a low one'?
#13 Guest_Jlall_*
Posted 2006-February-15, 08:59
Well, I got more information this way. I am never averse to that even if the information I get is potentially confusing. I trust my judgement in processing through it, and think more information is always better. At the very worst I can just pretend she followed low when I called for the 8 and I'm back to even.
Some good things can happen from calling for the 8. For starters, for the rest of this match I knew she was likely to cover any card I called from dummy. This can be a big advantage. Also, if she had covered with the JACK I probably would have believed her and played LHO for A9. Does this mean I'm giving her a chance to make a brilliant play? Yes, but only because I think that it's more likely she'll play the J from Jxx than from J96x. So again, this is not a bad thing as I'm only using the information I got because I think it has an edge which means that getting the info was good.
Some good things can happen from calling for the 8. For starters, for the rest of this match I knew she was likely to cover any card I called from dummy. This can be a big advantage. Also, if she had covered with the JACK I probably would have believed her and played LHO for A9. Does this mean I'm giving her a chance to make a brilliant play? Yes, but only because I think that it's more likely she'll play the J from Jxx than from J96x. So again, this is not a bad thing as I'm only using the information I got because I think it has an edge which means that getting the info was good.
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