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Do you use controls A=2 K=1
controls A=3 K=1
plain ace ask
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Do you q-bid and use turbo ?
Exclusion
Would be fun to do a poll about this
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AFTER realying what are your askings bids ?
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Posted 2006-January-29, 22:04
From Psych "I mean, Gus and I never see eye-to-eye on work stuff.
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
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Posted 2006-January-30, 02:56
At this moment we use:
- AKQ-point ask (followed by denial cuebids)
- RKC longest suit (followed by CAB's and TAB's)
- RKC 2nd longest suit (followed by CAB's and TAB's)
- RKC 3rd longest suit (followed by CAB's and TAB's)
- RKC shortest suit (followed by CAB's and TAB's)
With equal length, we use following priority: ♥>♠>♣>♦.
RKC responses are 1430.
Works most of the time, but some voidwood is very valuable imo!
- AKQ-point ask (followed by denial cuebids)
- RKC longest suit (followed by CAB's and TAB's)
- RKC 2nd longest suit (followed by CAB's and TAB's)
- RKC 3rd longest suit (followed by CAB's and TAB's)
- RKC shortest suit (followed by CAB's and TAB's)
With equal length, we use following priority: ♥>♠>♣>♦.
RKC responses are 1430.
Works most of the time, but some voidwood is very valuable imo!
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Posted 2006-January-30, 15:56
Sam and I use:
3NT = to play; 4♦ = puppet to 4♥ for signoff; both these can be removed when describer has substantial extras. Otherwise:
1st step = AKQ point ask; this is followed by showing parity of number of honors in each suit
2nd step = Ask for AKQ points outside describer's longest suit; similar parity continuations
3rd step = Ask for AKQ points outside describer's 2nd suit
4th step = Ask for AKQ points outside describer's fragment
We also use a skip of a single step earlier in a game forcing relay sequence to (in some cases) show a singleton and fit in opener's hand. After this, subsequent AKQ point asks will exclude the KQ of one of describer's suits but still include the ace.
3NT = to play; 4♦ = puppet to 4♥ for signoff; both these can be removed when describer has substantial extras. Otherwise:
1st step = AKQ point ask; this is followed by showing parity of number of honors in each suit
2nd step = Ask for AKQ points outside describer's longest suit; similar parity continuations
3rd step = Ask for AKQ points outside describer's 2nd suit
4th step = Ask for AKQ points outside describer's fragment
We also use a skip of a single step earlier in a game forcing relay sequence to (in some cases) show a singleton and fit in opener's hand. After this, subsequent AKQ point asks will exclude the KQ of one of describer's suits but still include the ace.
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Posted 2006-January-30, 16:04
Free, on Jan 30 2006, 11:56 AM, said:
At this moment we use:
- AKQ-point ask (followed by denial cuebids)
- RKC longest suit (followed by CAB's and TAB's)
- RKC 2nd longest suit (followed by CAB's and TAB's)
- RKC 3rd longest suit (followed by CAB's and TAB's)
- RKC shortest suit (followed by CAB's and TAB's)
With equal length, we use following priority: ♥>♠>♣>♦.
RKC responses are 1430.
Works most of the time, but some voidwood is very valuable imo!
- AKQ-point ask (followed by denial cuebids)
- RKC longest suit (followed by CAB's and TAB's)
- RKC 2nd longest suit (followed by CAB's and TAB's)
- RKC 3rd longest suit (followed by CAB's and TAB's)
- RKC shortest suit (followed by CAB's and TAB's)
With equal length, we use following priority: ♥>♠>♣>♦.
RKC responses are 1430.
Works most of the time, but some voidwood is very valuable imo!
Same as Free plays (surprise, surprise)
I expect that I'lljump on the band wagon and use early breaks to establish exclusion sequences....
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Posted 2006-January-31, 01:43
hrothgar, on Jan 30 2006, 05:04 PM, said:
Same as Free plays (surprise, surprise)
I expect that I'lljump on the band wagon and use early breaks to establish exclusion sequences....
I expect that I'lljump on the band wagon and use early breaks to establish exclusion sequences....
On a related note, how many relays are allowed before entering GF mode? In other words, responder may sometimes want to relay to find out more and then break relays either because of:
1) Apparent misfit
2) Asking opener to do the right thing (presumably after taking preference to one of the shown suits)
3) Slam aspirations w/ the mentioned exclusion sequence
Also, how is the exclusion sequence initiated?
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Posted 2006-January-31, 07:56
>On a related note, how many relays are allowed before entering GF mode?
Some relays are explicitly defined as game forcing. (1♣ - 1♦ is the most obvious example...) These are (obviously) game forcing sequences.
Many relays are defined as game invitational. At some point in time, this sequences may transition to an absolute game force. The transition is based on "hand type"
MOSCITO differentiates between 4 different hand types
1. Balanced hand patterns
2. Two suited hand patterns
3. Single suited hand patterns
4. Three suited hand patterns
Simply put, if the hand type is still ambiguous, the relay is game invitational...
Example:
1♥ - 1♠
2♣ - 2♦
the 2♣ response shows either a two suited hand with 5+ Spades and 4+ Diamonds OR a 5440 with 5 Spades. The 2♦ relay does not establish a game force.
1♥ - 1♠
2♦ - 2♥
The 2♦ response shows a single suited hand with Spades. The 2♥ relay establishes a game force
>Also, how is the exclusion sequence initiated?
Assume that a GF relay has been established. Further assume that RR has just bid 2NT showing 5+ Spades, 4 Hearts, and Diamond shortage.
At this point in time
3♣ asks for shape
3♦ asks for shape and excludes Spades in the Denial Cue Bidding
3♥ asks for shape and excludes Hearts in the Denial Cue Bidding
3♠ Asks for shape and excludes Clubs in the Denial Cue Bidding
3NT asks for shape and excludes Diamonds in the Denial Cue Bidding
Jury is still out regarding how practical this is, in particular, you brun a lot of space excluding short suits. (Luckily, in theory you're more likely to exclude long suits)
Right now, there are no adjustments to the "base" during exclusion sequences.
Some relays are explicitly defined as game forcing. (1♣ - 1♦ is the most obvious example...) These are (obviously) game forcing sequences.
Many relays are defined as game invitational. At some point in time, this sequences may transition to an absolute game force. The transition is based on "hand type"
MOSCITO differentiates between 4 different hand types
1. Balanced hand patterns
2. Two suited hand patterns
3. Single suited hand patterns
4. Three suited hand patterns
Simply put, if the hand type is still ambiguous, the relay is game invitational...
Example:
1♥ - 1♠
2♣ - 2♦
the 2♣ response shows either a two suited hand with 5+ Spades and 4+ Diamonds OR a 5440 with 5 Spades. The 2♦ relay does not establish a game force.
1♥ - 1♠
2♦ - 2♥
The 2♦ response shows a single suited hand with Spades. The 2♥ relay establishes a game force
>Also, how is the exclusion sequence initiated?
Assume that a GF relay has been established. Further assume that RR has just bid 2NT showing 5+ Spades, 4 Hearts, and Diamond shortage.
At this point in time
3♣ asks for shape
3♦ asks for shape and excludes Spades in the Denial Cue Bidding
3♥ asks for shape and excludes Hearts in the Denial Cue Bidding
3♠ Asks for shape and excludes Clubs in the Denial Cue Bidding
3NT asks for shape and excludes Diamonds in the Denial Cue Bidding
Jury is still out regarding how practical this is, in particular, you brun a lot of space excluding short suits. (Luckily, in theory you're more likely to exclude long suits)
Right now, there are no adjustments to the "base" during exclusion sequences.
Alderaan delenda est
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