Hi I was wondering if there has ever been a board on BBO where all the tables got the same result. So many times I get these hands where I think "this one should be flat" but I've never seen any board with more than 15 equal scores out of 16.
Anyone seen one?
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Flat board Did it happen?
#2 Guest_Jlall_*
Posted 2006-January-31, 09:09
I've seen one once, flat all the way for 420. I was amazed, usually someone passes it out or something
#3
Posted 2006-January-31, 09:11
I looked through myhands for the last four weeks. Granted I play more team matches than in the MBC. The closest I had in that set was this board:
http://online.bridgebase.com/myhands/hands...rname=echognome
Two hands made an extra overtrick, otherwise 14 the same. I'm sure if everyone looked in their myhands database we'd find one.
http://online.bridgebase.com/myhands/hands...rname=echognome
Two hands made an extra overtrick, otherwise 14 the same. I'm sure if everyone looked in their myhands database we'd find one.
"Half the people you know are below average." - Steven Wright
#4
Posted 2006-January-31, 09:44
Echognome, on Jan 31 2006, 10:11 AM, said:
I'm sure if everyone looked in their myhands database we'd find one.
I guess that would mean that we played as well(?) as the field????
The Grand Design, reflected in the face of Chaos...it's a fluke!
#5
Posted 2006-January-31, 10:05
Speaking about oddity, we could begin a contest with the biggest differences between the best NS score and the worst NS scores. And i m sure we would always be beating the records day after days
#6
Posted 2006-January-31, 10:22
Gerben42, on Jan 31 2006, 09:58 AM, said:
Hi I was wondering if there has ever been a board on BBO where all the tables got the same result. So many times I get these hands where I think "this one should be flat" but I've never seen any board with more than 15 equal scores out of 16.
Anyone seen one?
Anyone seen one?
We will start with one easy assumption, you don;t mean to include team games (since they are on BBO) in this. .hehehe. We will furhter stipulate that you don't mean small tourneys. So let's resrict this to Main room events (16 tables).
Using BridgeBrowser, this is fairly each to check. First, switch to main room database. Then select to display only view one table per hand. Then search for several 1000 hands (just a few seconds). Then sort by "points". In matchpoints you are looking for ones at 50%, in imps, at 0. Then click on those hands and look at the traveler (which is displayed complete with bidding and card play). You can limit the search to a single day, or a range of days. Or just to find the first 10,000 hands (less than a day, btw).
Doing that you can pull these up fairly quickly. So the answer is yes, there are such examples. Here is one...
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Produced by BRidgeBRowser on 31-Jan-06
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IMP-39 bridge_hit Dlr: North
Board 47829 S K6 Vul: E-W
H AT9
joe_3 D T853 marianne
S A942 C QJT7 S T853
H K7532 H 64
D 6 Ranec D 972
C A86 S QJ7 C K432
H QJ8
D AKQJ4
C 95
01-Oct-05 7:07:52 PM
First 7:07:52 PM, Last 7:39:49 PM
East South West North
joe_3 bridge_hitmarianne Ranec
1NT
2H* 3NT Pass Pass
Pass
1. natural
Opening lead: H3 Result: Made 4
Score: 430 Points: 0.00
1 East H3, 9, 6, 8
2 South D3, 7, A, 6
3 North S7, 2, K, 5
4 South S6, 3, J, A
5 East H5, T, 4, J
6 North D4, C6, DT, D2
7 South D5, 9, J, H2
8 North DK, C8, D8, C2
9 North DQ, H7, C7, C3
10 North C5, A, T, 4
11 East HK, A, S8, HQ
12 South CJ, K, 9, S4
13 West ST, Q, 9, CQ
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# Contr Ld Decl Tr Score Pts
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1 3N N H3 Ranec 10 430 0.00
2 3N S H6 1jola 10 430 0.00
3 3N N D6 ayseta 10 430 0.00
4 3N N H3 sigbac 10 430 0.00
5 3N N S2 happy3 10 430 0.00
6 3N N H3 LeFric 10 430 0.00
7 3N N S2 titalenca10 430 0.00
8 3N N H3 berlioz 10 430 0.00
9 3N N H3 phillyjap10 430 0.00
10 3N N S4 josito 10 430 0.00
11 3N N H3 Pastels 10 430 0.00
12 3N N H3 bea23 10 430 0.00
13 3N N H3 ana_mar 10 430 0.00
14 3N N H3 imokurok 10 430 0.00
15 3N N H3 Zalberto 10 430 0.00
16 3N N D6 elek m 10 430 0.00
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Produced by BRidgeBRowser on 31-Jan-06
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IMP-39 bridge_hit Dlr: North
Board 47829 S K6 Vul: E-W
H AT9
joe_3 D T853 marianne
S A942 C QJT7 S T853
H K7532 H 64
D 6 Ranec D 972
C A86 S QJ7 C K432
H QJ8
D AKQJ4
C 95
01-Oct-05 7:07:52 PM
First 7:07:52 PM, Last 7:39:49 PM
East South West North
joe_3 bridge_hitmarianne Ranec
1NT
2H* 3NT Pass Pass
Pass
1. natural
Opening lead: H3 Result: Made 4
Score: 430 Points: 0.00
1 East H3, 9, 6, 8
2 South D3, 7, A, 6
3 North S7, 2, K, 5
4 South S6, 3, J, A
5 East H5, T, 4, J
6 North D4, C6, DT, D2
7 South D5, 9, J, H2
8 North DK, C8, D8, C2
9 North DQ, H7, C7, C3
10 North C5, A, T, 4
11 East HK, A, S8, HQ
12 South CJ, K, 9, S4
13 West ST, Q, 9, CQ
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# Contr Ld Decl Tr Score Pts
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1 3N N H3 Ranec 10 430 0.00
2 3N S H6 1jola 10 430 0.00
3 3N N D6 ayseta 10 430 0.00
4 3N N H3 sigbac 10 430 0.00
5 3N N S2 happy3 10 430 0.00
6 3N N H3 LeFric 10 430 0.00
7 3N N S2 titalenca10 430 0.00
8 3N N H3 berlioz 10 430 0.00
9 3N N H3 phillyjap10 430 0.00
10 3N N S4 josito 10 430 0.00
11 3N N H3 Pastels 10 430 0.00
12 3N N H3 bea23 10 430 0.00
13 3N N H3 ana_mar 10 430 0.00
14 3N N H3 imokurok 10 430 0.00
15 3N N H3 Zalberto 10 430 0.00
16 3N N D6 elek m 10 430 0.00
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If you can find esoteric stuff like this that quickly, imagine what else you can do with Bridgebrowser. For what it is worth, the new HomeBase Club on BBO will be including BridgeBrowser access to bridgeteaching professionals and one class of members. Contact Stephen Pickett or visit the forums.homebaseclub.com for more details.
--Ben--
#7
Posted 2006-January-31, 11:22
I thought I would post this one, since pass out have to be fairly rare at all the tables...Using BridgeBrowser to filter though millions of hands, it looks like rate of flat boards appears to be about 1.7 hands per 10,000.
======================================== Produced by BRidgeBRowser on 31-Jan-06 ======================================== IMP-42 bolgary Dlr: West Board 6124 S T964 Vul: Both H J972 clindbergh D A7 Lucia0910 S KQ7 C AT2 S J52 H Q543 H K8 D T85 ylayali D KQ96 C K96 S A83 C Q743 H AT6 D J432 C J85 20-Oct-05 7:50:19 PM First 7:50:19 PM, Last 7:56:54 PM North East South West clindberghbolgary Lucia0910ylayali Pass Pass Pass Pass Points: 0.00 ======================================= # Contr Ld Decl Tr Score Pts ======================================= 1 Pa C2 ylayali 0 0 0.00 2 Pa C2 ramin1 0 0 0.00 3 Pa C2 garmagon 0 0 0.00 4 Pa C2 delif 0 0 0.00 5 Pa C2 betsmc 0 0 0.00 6 Pa C2 Vio8 0 0 0.00 7 Pa C2 mikelmw 0 0 0.00 8 Pa C2 remin 0 0 0.00 9 Pa C2 Tigger_ 0 0 0.00 10 Pa C2 rocketman 0 0 0.00 11 Pa C2 bukra 0 0 0.00 12 Pa C2 duckers 0 0 0.00 13 Pa C2 rocou 0 0 0.00 14 Pa C2 pontsurf 0 0 0.00 15 Pa C2 leslene 0 0 0.00 16 Pa C2 kurupi 0 0 0.00 =======================================
--Ben--
#9
Posted 2006-January-31, 12:10
The biggest difference I've seen in an BBO board was only 4720 points. Both scores were about 20 IMPs in the Butler.
7♠xx = vuln (2980) opposite 7♦X = (-1740)
I remember that I had:
♠AKQxxxx
♥-
♦-
♣JT9xxx
Red versus white. On many tables the auction started something like:
4♠ Pass Pass 4NT
5♣ 5♦ 6♠! 7♦
Now the roads diverged. 7♠ can be beaten after a Lighner dbl, those scoring -2980 didn't understand for which suit I guess. Against 7♦ you need to lead ♠ and not ♣ to beat it.
7♠xx = vuln (2980) opposite 7♦X = (-1740)
I remember that I had:
♠AKQxxxx
♥-
♦-
♣JT9xxx
Red versus white. On many tables the auction started something like:
4♠ Pass Pass 4NT
5♣ 5♦ 6♠! 7♦
Now the roads diverged. 7♠ can be beaten after a Lighner dbl, those scoring -2980 didn't understand for which suit I guess. Against 7♦ you need to lead ♠ and not ♣ to beat it.
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