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On the Way to Four Spades Defensive or Offensive bidding???
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Posted 2006-January-21, 10:24
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Posted 2006-January-21, 10:26
at the table I bid 4♣ on the way to 4♠ expecting the opponents to bid over 4♠'s, figuring that it gave us a great shot to beat 5♥
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Posted 2006-January-21, 13:25
4♣ is fine, though it runs the risk of pard taking it for club values instead of lead-directing.
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Posted 2006-January-21, 14:29
4♣, I have slam ambition 
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Posted 2006-January-21, 15:18
4C? Wait a minute...doesn't 4C get partner involved if the opponents bid and ask him to look at his club holding? Partner will not be able to evaluate at all, he will think club values/length are good and no values in clubs are bad.
I would bid 4S hoping to shut them out.
I would bid 4S hoping to shut them out.
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Posted 2006-January-21, 15:41
The usual use of 4♣ is, as Justin says, to show ♣ length/values, and, by implication, to deny any defence in the red suits. It involves partner in the decision as to what to do over 5♥. It most assuredly does not describe a ♣ void!
It is interesting to look at the possible developments after this misleading bid. It is possible that we could end on our feet. But I would just bid 4♠, assuming captaincy and I will bid 5♠ if needed. This is imps and they are red, so I am not letting them play 5♥ when I rate to be -500 on my worst day and +650 on a good but not unreasonable day (Kxx x Kxxx xxxxx or Kxx xx KJx xxxxx are merely some of the hands giving me an excellent chance)
It is interesting to look at the possible developments after this misleading bid. It is possible that we could end on our feet. But I would just bid 4♠, assuming captaincy and I will bid 5♠ if needed. This is imps and they are red, so I am not letting them play 5♥ when I rate to be -500 on my worst day and +650 on a good but not unreasonable day (Kxx x Kxxx xxxxx or Kxx xx KJx xxxxx are merely some of the hands giving me an excellent chance)
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Posted 2006-January-22, 10:25
I thought it was an interesting idea, on the actual hand four♥/♠ cant make 
partners hand was kx,xx,xx,qj10xxxx
partners hand was kx,xx,xx,qj10xxxx
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Posted 2006-January-22, 18:04
Do you open 6 card major? 
I would bid 4♦, to let partner help at the 5 level.
I would bid 4♦, to let partner help at the 5 level.
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Posted 2006-January-22, 21:06
Fluffy, on Jan 22 2006, 07:04 PM, said:
Do you open 6 card major?
I would bid 4♦, to let partner help at the 5 level.
I would bid 4♦, to let partner help at the 5 level.
haha, question is my partner thought i skewed the bidding more than he did.
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Posted 2006-January-22, 21:57
Right. If I were to bid anything other than 4S here it would be 4D, but I don't think the diamond suit is enough for that bid...so the pratical bid once again:
4S.
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4S.
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