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In a sectional tournment in a stratified field against decent opps you are in
fourth seat and hear the above auction. How do you get this party started?
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Posted 2006-January-23, 12:57
In a sectional tournment in a stratified field against decent opps you are in
fourth seat and hear the above auction. How do you get this party started?
The Grand Design, reflected in the face of Chaos...it's a fluke!
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Posted 2006-January-23, 13:03
i had to see what this thread was all about
i'd bid 4♦ and hope pard makes it
i'd bid 4♦ and hope pard makes it
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Posted 2006-January-23, 13:09
Funny hand (and title).
I'll roll out stayman. If I catch a fit, I'll at least invite. If I don't catch anything, I'll bid 2♥.
I'll roll out stayman. If I catch a fit, I'll at least invite. If I don't catch anything, I'll bid 2♥.
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Posted 2006-January-23, 13:33
4D for me as well, for both tactical purposes and because 4H might make.
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Posted 2006-January-23, 13:49
If they let us play 4H then I'm happy too. This seems so obvious that I'm expecting a follow-up.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2006-January-23, 13:54
Hannie, on Jan 23 2006, 02:49 PM, said:
If they let us play 4H then I'm happy too. This seems so obvious that I'm expecting a follow-up.
Oh you clever devil.........patience is a virtue
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Posted 2006-January-23, 13:55
Stratified events require huge scores to win. So settling for a partscore, even if technically correct, is not a wise move. I transfer to game.
If I am in luck, partner's minors include the ♦A but not the ♣A, and LHO makes a lead-directing double of 4♦ with something like KQJ in the suit
That is the kind of result you need to win stratified events.
I reject stayman because:
1) I do not want to hear a double of 2♣
2) I do not want to discourage a ♠ lead, by suggesting ♠, which I would be doing if partner bids 2♦ and I bid any number of ♥
3) I do not want to allow my LHO a cheap way into the auction: they may be cold for 5 of a minor... heck, for all I know, they can make a slam
If I am in luck, partner's minors include the ♦A but not the ♣A, and LHO makes a lead-directing double of 4♦ with something like KQJ in the suit
That is the kind of result you need to win stratified events.I reject stayman because:
1) I do not want to hear a double of 2♣
2) I do not want to discourage a ♠ lead, by suggesting ♠, which I would be doing if partner bids 2♦ and I bid any number of ♥
3) I do not want to allow my LHO a cheap way into the auction: they may be cold for 5 of a minor... heck, for all I know, they can make a slam
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Posted 2006-January-23, 14:50
I transfer to hearts at the 4 level, Stayman is my opinion quite ridiculous having a 7 card heart suit.
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Posted 2006-January-23, 15:08
At Han's request, the auction proceeded 2D (our agreement is the transfer accept followed by a S bid is weak and shapely (even if it was not expected to be THIS shapely)) 3D by LHO and 4H! by opener. RHO bid 5D, so what now?
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Posted 2006-January-23, 15:24
I'd really like to bid 4♥ to play. While this may "wrong-side" the contract, it totally shuts the opponents out of the auction. It's very dangerous for them to compete to the five level in case I have a hand, they're unlikely to have a takeout double (so many ♠ between partner and me), and they have no chance to double four of a minor to suggest a "sacrifice" (which will probably make).
If not playing south african transfers, I'll bid 4♦ and hope to get away with it.
If not playing south african transfers, I'll bid 4♦ and hope to get away with it.
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Posted 2006-January-23, 15:26
My guess is that 4♥ was based on a 5 card suit, and now I am even more convinced that they are cold for game and maybe slam. However, very few opps bid slam after we open a strong 1N, and maybe partner has 2 cashing side aces 
I am sure not passing: 5♥
I am pleased to see that 2♦ created this problem
I am sure not passing: 5♥
I am pleased to see that 2♦ created this problem
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Posted 2006-January-23, 16:06
5♥ ... wonder what lho would have done had i bid 4♦ instead of 2?
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Posted 2006-January-23, 18:07
I too want to bid 4♥ over 1NT to play.
If this bid is unavailable, I'll transfer at the 4-level. Transferring at 2-level seems insane.
If this bid is unavailable, I'll transfer at the 4-level. Transferring at 2-level seems insane.
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Posted 2006-January-23, 18:11
luke warm, on Jan 23 2006, 02:03 PM, said:
i had to see what this thread was all about
i'd bid 4♦ and hope pard makes it
i'd bid 4♦ and hope pard makes it
agree with Jimmy.
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Posted 2006-January-24, 00:35
I use delayed texas myself. Or if you got some form of Weissberger, use that. Anything but pass.
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Posted 2006-January-24, 04:28
Anyone for a psychic 3NT? 
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Posted 2006-January-24, 06:12
If you want to psyche, invite with 2NT at least.
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