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Today we had this auction:
1♥ Pass 4♦* Dbl
Pass** 5♦
** Forcing
How would you now interpret:
Pass
Double
5♥
If you want a bidding problem, partner bid 5♥ and you have
Kx
AQxxx
Qxxx
Ax
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Forcing pass thoughts What bid means what
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Posted 2006-January-16, 09:33
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Posted 2006-January-16, 20:50
6♥, more than 50% percentage to make . example:
Axxx
Kxxx
---
Kxxxx
Axxx
Kxxx
---
Kxxxx
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Posted 2006-January-18, 03:59
00002, with the hand you showed, pard passes and pulls the penalty double to 5♥ 
Anyway, the interesting thing about forcing passes is everybody agrees to play them, but then doesn't discuss what they show, lol
I myself have no clear ideas on the subject, but there's a few examples on Robson/Segal's book on how to use them. Basically they advocate something like:
Pass:
Offensive hand (high ODR), but would pass pard's penalty double. Usually a singleton in opps's suit, and a relatively min hand. Example for this case:
Axxx
Kxxx
x
KQxx
Double:
Defensive values (low ODR), possibly a trump trick, chances of misfit in side suits. Example:
QJxx
Kxxx
x
KQxx
5♥ bid:
Offensive hand, not interested in penalizing opps, but too little for a slam. Extra trumps or shape likely. Example:
Axxx
Kxxxx
--
Qxxx
Pass + pull penalty double:
Slam try. Example: 00002's hand,
Axxx
Kxxx
---
Kxxxx
As for what to do with Kx AQxxx Qxxx Ax, I'd either pass or bid 6, depending on how lucky I feel. Usually I'd pass.
Anyway, the interesting thing about forcing passes is everybody agrees to play them, but then doesn't discuss what they show, lol
I myself have no clear ideas on the subject, but there's a few examples on Robson/Segal's book on how to use them. Basically they advocate something like:Pass:
Offensive hand (high ODR), but would pass pard's penalty double. Usually a singleton in opps's suit, and a relatively min hand. Example for this case:
Axxx
Kxxx
x
KQxx
Double:
Defensive values (low ODR), possibly a trump trick, chances of misfit in side suits. Example:
QJxx
Kxxx
x
KQxx
5♥ bid:
Offensive hand, not interested in penalizing opps, but too little for a slam. Extra trumps or shape likely. Example:
Axxx
Kxxxx
--
Qxxx
Pass + pull penalty double:
Slam try. Example: 00002's hand,
Axxx
Kxxx
---
Kxxxx
As for what to do with Kx AQxxx Qxxx Ax, I'd either pass or bid 6, depending on how lucky I feel. Usually I'd pass.
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Posted 2006-January-18, 06:13
whereagles, on Jan 18 2006, 04:59 AM, said:
00002, with the hand you showed, pard passes and pulls the penalty double to 5♥
5♥ bid:
Offensive hand, not interested in penalizing opps, but too little for a slam. Extra trumps or shape likely. Example:
Axxx
Kxxxx
--
Qxxx
Pass + pull penalty double:
Slam try. Example: 00002's hand,
Axxx
Kxxx
---
Kxxxx
As for what to do with Kx AQxxx Qxxx Ax, I'd either pass or bid 6, depending on how lucky I feel. Usually I'd pass.
5♥ bid:
Offensive hand, not interested in penalizing opps, but too little for a slam. Extra trumps or shape likely. Example:
Axxx
Kxxxx
--
Qxxx
Pass + pull penalty double:
Slam try. Example: 00002's hand,
Axxx
Kxxx
---
Kxxxx
As for what to do with Kx AQxxx Qxxx Ax, I'd either pass or bid 6, depending on how lucky I feel. Usually I'd pass.
did you deem the underside hand better 1trick than the upside hand?
I don't think so.
an example for opener's hand:
KQx
QJxxxx
Axx
x
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