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Gambling 1N Run or stand your ground?

#1 User is offline   Winstonm 

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Posted 2006-January-17, 10:46

Scoring: IMP

1N-X-XX-P
P-?

K.O. match. Double is penalty expressing an expectation of defeating 1N if on lead - in other words a good suit to lead. Would you expect pard to have at least 2 cards in every suit to pass the penalty redouble or do you take out insurance and pull to 2S?

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Posted 2006-January-17, 10:52

I don't like Xing with hands like this, but I am glad I did and I would sit it out for sure. Maybe we'll get 1000 B)
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Posted 2006-January-17, 11:03

Jlall, on Jan 17 2006, 11:52 AM, said:

I don't like Xing with hands like this, but I am glad I did and I would sit it out for sure. Maybe we'll get 1000 B)

As for the double, what is your opinion - is it a card light?

AKQ10xx, Kxx, xx, Ax or AKQJxx, xx, xxx, Ax is more like it?

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Posted 2006-January-17, 11:11

the first one, not the second one. It's true we can beat 1N with the second hand, but we give them the whole 2 level to run which is not unlikely given our hand. If we just bid 2S or something we shut them out. I don't like Xing 1N when we can't X 6H/D/C B)
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Posted 2006-January-17, 11:27

Winstonm, on Jan 17 2006, 11:46 AM, said:

Scoring: IMP

1N-X-XX-P
P-?

K.O. match. Double is penalty expressing an expectation of defeating 1N if on lead - in other words a good suit to lead. Would you expect pard to have at least 2 cards in every suit to pass the penalty redouble or do you take out insurance and pull to 2S?

South redoubled for business? (It's not a request to run out?) In a K.O. match?
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Posted 2006-January-17, 11:40

Pass, if I doubled the first time I shouldn't chicken out. If it goes wrong, it goes wrong...

Btw, I also don't like Dbl here, I'd just pass, and hope they invite in NT to play them one more down ;)
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Posted 2006-January-17, 12:00

Al_U_Card, on Jan 17 2006, 06:27 PM, said:

South redoubled for business? (It's not a request to run out?) In a K.O. match?

Why is this so surprising?
It's certainly how I play it in every partnership I play in.
I've also seen opponents play it that way as well.

From the declaring side's POV if you are doubled and are making 6 or 7 tricks with equal probability, you should redouble.

Anyway, I stick it and hope, but I don't think running is absurd.

As for what partner needs to stand the redouble, that's a matter for agreement.
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Posted 2006-January-17, 13:36

Pass. Maybe LHO redoubled merely on points...?
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Posted 2006-January-17, 13:38

I sit. The spades will be a big surprise to them. I guess I pay off to J-4th somewhere, but this seems unlikely.
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Posted 2006-January-17, 19:07

I sit. 5 tricks in 1NXX are much more likely than 7, given my hand and the lead.
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Posted 2006-January-18, 04:48

I sit. If I would have ♠J it'd be even sweeter. I'd lead that and mention "4th best".

Unless of course I think that redoubler for sure has ♠Jxxx since he is the kind of player who would only redouble with stoppers in all suits. I would not often think that.
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Posted 2006-January-18, 05:22

Just pass
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