Again MP and green vs red
(1C) 2N (P) 3H
(3S) P (P) ?
If this weren't Match points there would be no problem, I guess.
You hold Qx Kxx Qxxx Txxx
2N showed D+H. Your 3D bid was a bit of an underbid already, with 2 prime cards in partner's suit. Against that, the Qx os S is wastepaper. You bid H rather than D because it was matchpoints. The 2N bid can be weak to quite strong.
Do you take another bid now, assuming your pd should have quite a reasonable hand for the bidding, or do you pass and assume one of the opps, probably rho, has made a mistake here? After all lho has shown a good hand. Another point to bear in mind, - could lho be 5-5 in the blacks? You don't know and don't really want to ask at this stage.
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And yet another one.
#1
Posted 2003-October-08, 18:25
"The King of Hearts a broadsword bears, the Queen of Hearts a rose." W. H. Auden.
#2
Posted 2003-October-08, 18:57
I pass, too much losers. 7+10=17 => level 1, or 4X-3. But you have a double fit, so you'll probably make 8-9 tricks, which means -1.
If I bid 4D or 4H, ops will go to 4S (they have at least 9 spades together and also a double fit). My partner would bid Dbl or 3NT if he's really strong, so his suits aren't that great imo. I suspect around 13 HCP with my partner.
Let them play 3S+1...
If I bid 4D or 4H, ops will go to 4S (they have at least 9 spades together and also a double fit). My partner would bid Dbl or 3NT if he's really strong, so his suits aren't that great imo. I suspect around 13 HCP with my partner.
Let them play 3S+1...
"It may be rude to leave to go to the bathroom, but it's downright stupid to sit there and piss yourself" - blackshoe
#3
Posted 2003-October-08, 20:34
Something has gone very odd here. We are looking at double red card fit. I assume we have 8 hearts and 9 diamonds. They surely have at least a nine card spade fit and I suspect that WEST is likely 5-6 in the blacks (not 5-5), I mean WEST bid 3S VUL opposite a passing partner. Clearly RHO is looking at something like 4-4-3-2 and is mad he is not defending against hearts. If RHO had five spades, the 3S bid would have woke him up.
So after a little reflection, I will join the passers here. But of course, it would be nice to know what my partner would consider a hand too GOOD for 2NT. This might be a time to introduce a discussion of top michaels and unusual unusual where these bids promise two suiters, but michaels just higher suit (here spades) and another, and uu the middle suit (here hearts) and another. When using these bids, you limit your hand in one case if you have the lowest unbid suit, and you limit it in the other if you have the two highest suits. That appooach could put a cap on what you can expect to find from partenr when you think his suits are red.
So after a little reflection, I will join the passers here. But of course, it would be nice to know what my partner would consider a hand too GOOD for 2NT. This might be a time to introduce a discussion of top michaels and unusual unusual where these bids promise two suiters, but michaels just higher suit (here spades) and another, and uu the middle suit (here hearts) and another. When using these bids, you limit your hand in one case if you have the lowest unbid suit, and you limit it in the other if you have the two highest suits. That appooach could put a cap on what you can expect to find from partenr when you think his suits are red.
--Ben--
#4
Posted 2003-October-09, 01:56
You do well to shut up.
I would have liked to find another bid but
AKxx
xx
AJx
AQJx
xxxxx
Qxx
x
KJxxx
Yes the bidding is absurd, but you pay if you come back in.
As Ben noted, I have altered the Nth hand and changed the K of C to the Q
I would have liked to find another bid but
AKxx
xx
AJx
AQJx
xxxxx
Qxx
x
KJxxx
Yes the bidding is absurd, but you pay if you come back in.
As Ben noted, I have altered the Nth hand and changed the K of C to the Q
"The King of Hearts a broadsword bears, the Queen of Hearts a rose." W. H. Auden.
#5
Posted 2003-October-09, 05:51
Quote
You do well to shut up.
I would have liked to find another bid but
AKxx
xx
AJx
AKJx
xxxxx
Qxx
x
KJxxx
Yes the bidding is absurd, but you pay if you come back in.
I would have liked to find another bid but
AKxx
xx
AJx
AKJx
xxxxx
Qxx
x
KJxxx
Yes the bidding is absurd, but you pay if you come back in.
Something seems very wrong with the bidding and the hands. I particularily like that north south can lead towards the KJ of clubs from either hand. :-)
I am very surpised a hand with 5 SPADES (South) would pass the 3S call by his partner... my experience is with five cards in a suit partner introduces naturally at the three level players do not pass. I mean, how can South not bid on... I may bid too much as NS and get to 6C going off one (well, not on a diamond lead.... another wonderful reason your 3H instead of 3D will have worked out well).
--Ben--
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