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Double of 2S SAYC.

Poll: What would you bid? (20 member(s) have cast votes)

What would you bid?

  1. 3D (13 votes [65.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 65.00%

  2. 2NT (2 votes [10.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.00%

  3. Pass (2 votes [10.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.00%

  4. Other (3 votes [15.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.00%

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#1 User is offline   Trumpace 

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Posted 2005-December-13, 15:40

No one Vul. Scoring, MP.

You hold: KTx, xx, Kxxxxx, Jx

RHO opens 1D, you pass, LHO bids 1S, partner passes, RHO bid 2S, pass, pass, X, pass.

What hand do you expect from partner and what is your action now?
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Posted 2005-December-13, 15:57

sigh...why didn't he X 1S... This is so brutal. I would probably go with the poker approach and try a confident 3C hoping no one Xs or they bid 3S. 2N is probably the right bid though, but it sounds less "confident" like you have a big fit lol. 3D is SURE to be Xed. If 3C is viciously Xed, I can always run to 3D later.
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Posted 2005-December-13, 16:01

3♦, I expect partner to have some (partner has some values but no first round double).
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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  Posted 2005-December-13, 16:26

Jlall, on Dec 13 2005, 04:57 PM, said:

If 3C is viciously Xed, I can always run to 3D later.

I like that viciuosly doubled :D) How do you tell Justin? by too fast in tempo?
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Posted 2005-December-13, 16:29

Not the best spot. Pard should have 5 clubs and 4 hearts, I would assume. And not many Hcp (10?). He should have 2 (or even 3) diamonds (what are oppos playing?). Overall, I vote for 3♦, but I would have preferred 1N take-out one round early
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Posted 2005-December-13, 16:34

3♣ and hope they compete with 3♠. Partner is likely 2-2 in spades and diamonds with about 10 hcp and the only reason he doubles is because its MP's and they have a fit and stopped at the 2-level
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Posted 2005-December-13, 16:43

dcvetkov, on Dec 13 2005, 05:26 PM, said:

Jlall, on Dec 13 2005, 04:57 PM, said:

If 3C is viciously Xed, I can always run to 3D later.

I like that viciuosly doubled ;)) How do you tell Justin? by too fast in tempo?

quick X=you're screwed. quick pass of X= haha theyre screwed. slow X=they may be screwed. quick pass of slow X= we got this pard, theyre screwed. Slow pass of slow X= oh man, they might not be screwed but I have nothing to bid.

Slow X then slow pass is clearly optimal.
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Posted 2005-December-13, 17:45

Why hasn't anyone voted for 2NT or Pass?
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Posted 2005-December-14, 04:42

2NT is asking pard to pick a suit. (It doesn't make sense as natural after 3 passes by your side.) You don't want pard to pick a suit because you only have one suit in which to play: diamonds.

To pass when pard wasn't strong enough to double 1♠ is probably a quick and enjoyable way to get in an arguing at the end of the board.

All this leaves you with one bid: 3♦.
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Posted 2005-December-14, 05:25

Hi,

in theory partners dbl is for penalty,
we know he does not have a penalty
dbl, they have at least 7 cards, I three
with the King, ... according to an old
famous german mathematician: partner
has at most 3.

Now I pass, hopying for a miracle.

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Marlowe
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Posted 2005-December-14, 05:26

whereagles, on Dec 14 2005, 05:42 AM, said:

To pass when pard wasn't strong enough to double 1♠ is probably a quick and enjoyable way to get in an arguing at the end of the board.

Hi,

if partners starts arguing, I will shoot him, which
finishes the discussion process.

Marlowe
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Posted 2005-December-14, 06:07

Partner is probably on some kind of 4333, 3♦ is our best contract.
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Posted 2005-December-14, 07:09

Jlall, on Dec 13 2005, 02:43 PM, said:

dcvetkov, on Dec 13 2005, 05:26 PM, said:

Jlall, on Dec 13 2005, 04:57 PM, said:

If 3C is viciously Xed, I can always run to 3D later.

I like that viciuosly doubled :)) How do you tell Justin? by too fast in tempo?

quick X=you're screwed. quick pass of X= haha theyre screwed. slow X=they may be screwed. quick pass of slow X= we got this pard, theyre screwed. Slow pass of slow X= oh man, they might not be screwed but I have nothing to bid.

Slow X then slow pass is clearly optimal.

LOL; Justin - if bridge doesn;t work out you can get hired to interpret the dead sea scrolls or something like that. :P
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Posted 2005-December-14, 08:41

pclayton, on Dec 14 2005, 08:09 AM, said:

Jlall, on Dec 13 2005, 02:43 PM, said:

dcvetkov, on Dec 13 2005, 05:26 PM, said:

Jlall, on Dec 13 2005, 04:57 PM, said:

If 3C is viciously Xed, I can always run to 3D later.

I like that viciuosly doubled :)) How do you tell Justin? by too fast in tempo?

quick X=you're screwed. quick pass of X= haha theyre screwed. slow X=they may be screwed. quick pass of slow X= we got this pard, theyre screwed. Slow pass of slow X= oh man, they might not be screwed but I have nothing to bid.

Slow X then slow pass is clearly optimal.

LOL; Justin - if bridge doesn;t work out you can get hired to interpret the dead sea scrolls or something like that. :P

lol...you know you've been playing too much poker when...
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Posted 2005-December-14, 08:53

Fluffy, on Dec 14 2005, 07:07 AM, said:

Partner is probably on some kind of 4333,  3♦ is our best contract.

Pard has a hand where he knows you have something....he has something.....he hates to sell.......he wonders what to do.......so you bid 3D opposite his stiff ♦ ace (or small doubleton) and hope they bid on or that the result is -100 only :P
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