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RHO's weak two is wide-ranging and undisciplined. Are you going to act?
Enough to act over a weak two? 1165 shape
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Posted 2005-December-10, 09:15
RHO's weak two is wide-ranging and undisciplined. Are you going to act?
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Posted 2005-December-10, 09:26
No way to show 2 suits under 4♥, even 3nt.
this is the reason to pass .
this is the reason to pass .
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Posted 2005-December-10, 09:35
I hate this problem. 
Already I've broken tempo. My hand is deceptive in that despite its shape it is more defensive than offensive in nature - the two aces are tricks and the spade K is more useful as a defensive card to build a trick. But at the same time, in partner's hand two key cards and a fit could produce a game.
Overall, you don't get rich letting the opponents push you around in the bidding so I'm bidding 3D - if I get a chance to bid clubs at the 4 level I'll do that, but if LHO jump to 4H and it is passed back to me I'll try to beat it - I don't want to get pushed around at the lower levels but I also have to keep my wits and not be pushed into an expensive phantom save. Unless partner can show a big fit my hand is useful for defending - so that is what I do.
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Already I've broken tempo. My hand is deceptive in that despite its shape it is more defensive than offensive in nature - the two aces are tricks and the spade K is more useful as a defensive card to build a trick. But at the same time, in partner's hand two key cards and a fit could produce a game.Overall, you don't get rich letting the opponents push you around in the bidding so I'm bidding 3D - if I get a chance to bid clubs at the 4 level I'll do that, but if LHO jump to 4H and it is passed back to me I'll try to beat it - I don't want to get pushed around at the lower levels but I also have to keep my wits and not be pushed into an expensive phantom save. Unless partner can show a big fit my hand is useful for defending - so that is what I do.
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Posted 2005-December-10, 09:57
Pass.
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Posted 2005-December-10, 10:08
3♦ ; feel it's too easy to get robbed passing here. Willing to accept that 3♦ will sometimes lead to a bad result.
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Posted 2005-December-10, 10:48
Pass partner can balance with 2 spade bid with 9-10 hcp and short H and I can bid nf 3d then.
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Posted 2005-December-10, 10:55
I'll bid 3♦, and this is not particularly close in my style. Partner will expect me to push a bit holding short hearts. I don't expect partner to balance 2♠ on a ten count with length in hearts.
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Posted 2005-December-10, 11:24
3♦ to stop partner from doing something more unsuccessful. (He won't know it will be unsuccessful of course)
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Posted 2005-December-10, 14:27
3D. I do not pass with 6-5 with the aces of my suit. Way too much playing potential. If partner bids the expected 3N I will not sit but maybe I should.
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Posted 2005-December-10, 15:08
I remember a discussion of how to bid minor 2 suits over major weak 2 in this forums.
I am convinced that using cuebid to show both minors is a more sensible way than
using it to ask stopper.
If I play this way, I would stretch a 3 hearts, otherwise 3D.
I am convinced that using cuebid to show both minors is a more sensible way than
using it to ask stopper.
If I play this way, I would stretch a 3 hearts, otherwise 3D.
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Posted 2005-December-10, 16:17
Another point of interest is the opening
style in your partnership, i.e. is it possible,
that partner has near opening values or
do you open garbage?
Marlowe
style in your partnership, i.e. is it possible,
that partner has near opening values or
do you open garbage?
Marlowe
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Posted 2005-December-10, 18:15
Do you play 3♦ as nonforcing? If so, then 3♦. Otherwise, pass.The spade king is a huge negative in terms of our trying to buy the hand. Put that king over in the club or diamond suit, and you have (almost) a strong two bid opening. The opponents clearly have the spade suit with the ability to take 8-10 tricks there. The 2♥ opener has disrupted their auction already, and if I can bid 3♦ w/o worrying about pard getting serious, I am happy to do so. Otherwise, I only hope pard's weak two did enough damage.
I think I could pass in tempo with this hand, but if not, then 3♦, even forcing, is a bid that can win. I would prefer it to a slow pass.
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Posted 2005-December-10, 18:51
beatrix45, on Dec 11 2005, 01:15 AM, said:
Do you play 3♦ as nonforcing? If so, then 3♦. Otherwise, pass.Who plays a simple overcall as forcing?
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Posted 2005-December-10, 20:34
3♥: minors
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Posted 2005-December-10, 22:00
Pass but I dont feel too strongly about it. Pard is a passed hand, so our chances of making game are pretty nil. I'll just assume fight for 6 tricks against hearts when pard has a stack than 9 tricks in a minor.
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Posted 2005-December-10, 23:40
3D for me too. We can't count on partner to reopen, and we have plenty playing-strength.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2005-December-11, 02:12
Fluffy, on Dec 11 2005, 02:34 AM, said:
3♥: minors
yes
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Posted 2005-December-11, 03:40
3♦...
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Posted 2005-December-11, 05:09
pclayton, on Dec 10 2005, 11:00 PM, said:
Pass but I dont feel too strongly about it. Pard is a passed hand, so our chances of making game are pretty nil. I'll just assume fight for 6 tricks against hearts when pard has a stack than 9 tricks in a minor.
It's not that hard to construct hands for parnter where even slam is a good prospect [ok, I don't expect to get to slam here - just playing the devil's advocate].
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Posted 2005-December-11, 06:44
Hi beatrix45
Partner did not open 2Hs. The (2H) bid in 'brackets' shows that this bid was by the other pair.
Hi everyone
I bid 3D here, the partner 'short' in the enemy suit should try to bid. I have somewhat light values, however, I do have a lot of shape.
I agree with Jlall here, if partner bids 3NT, I am also pulling. I started this auction by bidding 3Ds on shape and I will continue with a 4C bid to show extreme shape over a 3NT bid.
If you do not go for an occasion -800 you are not bidding often enough.
Regards,
Robert
Partner did not open 2Hs. The (2H) bid in 'brackets' shows that this bid was by the other pair.
Hi everyone
I bid 3D here, the partner 'short' in the enemy suit should try to bid. I have somewhat light values, however, I do have a lot of shape.
I agree with Jlall here, if partner bids 3NT, I am also pulling. I started this auction by bidding 3Ds on shape and I will continue with a 4C bid to show extreme shape over a 3NT bid.
If you do not go for an occasion -800 you are not bidding often enough.
Regards,
Robert
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