[Al_U_Card]

Scoring: MP

You always bypass a 4 card major to rebid NT to show balanced hands.
1NT, after a major opening, is forcing.

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[mike777]

1D, the real decision will my rebid if partner bids 1nt and the opps are silent!

I assume 1nt is not forcing over 1D?

[P_Marlowe]

I am not sure, you could bring me to play your system,
but since you make the rules:

1S.

I am not strong enough to make a reverse,
so I have to bid 1S, else I loose the spade suit.

If I bid 1D, I have already deciede, that I bid
2S over partners most likely 1 NT anwer.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[joker_gib]

P_Marlowe, on Dec 12 2005, 03:39 PM, said:

I am not sure, you could bring me to play your system,
but since you make the rules:

1S.

I am not strong enough to make a reverse,
so I have to bid 1S, else I loose the spade suit.

If I bid 1D, I have already deciede, that I bid
2S over partners most likely 1 NT anwer.

With kind regards
Marlowe

I agree totally with Marlowe.

Alain

[Gerben42]

1♦ planning to bid 2♠ next after partner's 1NT.

[whereagles]

Open 1♠, followed up eventually by 2♦ and 3♦.

[inquiry]

1♦... automatic

[Al_U_Card]

My f2f insists on opening this hand 1S. I asked for the concession that if the hand is good enough to reverse then 1D is ok. Is this hand worth a reverse? Especially since we bypass 1S to bid 1NT with a balanced hand, I can bid 1S over 1H and then rebid the spades. (Personally. like Justin, I prefer 1D on all "decent" openers and would only use the 1S bid on a rule of 20 piece of cheese.)

[P_Marlowe]

Al_U_Card, on Dec 12 2005, 10:30 AM, said:

My f2f insists on opening this hand 1S. I asked for the concession that if the hand is good enough to reverse then 1D is ok. Is this hand worth a reverse?

Not in my book, that's why I choose 1S,
but if it is in your book, 1D is "automatic".

I dont like misdiscribing my shape.

Marlowe

[luis]

1♦ automatic.
Starting from my longest suit and then bidding the 2nd longest, quite an imaginative plan.

[inquiry]

P_Marlowe, on Dec 12 2005, 10:59 AM, said:

Al_U_Card, on Dec 12 2005, 10:30 AM, said:

My f2f insists on opening this hand 1S.  I asked for the concession that if the hand is good enough to reverse then 1D is ok.  Is this hand worth a reverse?

Not in my book, that's why I choose 1S,
but if it is in your book, 1D is "automatic".

I dont like misdiscribing my shape.

Marlowe

I am slightly confused. You choose to open 1♠ with 5♠ and 6♦ because you don't like misdescribing your shape. After opening 1♠ how are you ever going to show longer ♦ and "shorter" ♠. Are you playing canape?

[P_Marlowe]

inquiry, on Dec 12 2005, 11:05 AM, said:

P_Marlowe, on Dec 12 2005, 10:59 AM, said:

Al_U_Card, on Dec 12 2005, 10:30 AM, said:

My f2f insists on opening this hand 1S.  I asked for the concession that if the hand is good enough to reverse then 1D is ok.  Is this hand worth a reverse?

Not in my book, that's why I choose 1S,
but if it is in your book, 1D is "automatic".

I dont like misdiscribing my shape.

Marlowe

I am slightly confused. You choose to open 1♠ with 5♠ and 6♦ because you don't like misdescribing your shape. After opening 1♠ how are you ever going to show longer ♦ and "shorter" ♠. Are you playing canape?

Hi Ben,

no I dont play canape, and I also prefer a 1D opening.

But given the system constrains, i.e. responder bypassing
the mayors in case he is balanced, I think you have to
open 1S, unless you believe the hand strong enough for a
reverse.
Because I do not think, the hand is strong enough to make
a reverse, but this is also partnership agreement.

With kind regards
Marlowe

PS: In my first post I made it clear, that I would never play such a system,
because the system forces me to misdescribe my hand.

[Al_U_Card]

Even if the response to 1D is 1NT, then pard has at most 3S and likely 2+ D. For less than a hi reverse, can you not rebid 2D? When they reopen, you can now show S and it will be clear that you have a weak-freak as opposed to a rock crusher.

[mikeh]

1♦: automatic for me, and followed by the appropriate number of ♠.

This hand is very powerful: long suits headed by Aces are grossly undervalued if you use a simple hcp analysis. I think it was Grant Baze whose Bols Bridge Tips years ago was '6-5, come alive', and this is an easy example.

As Justin pointed out, the odds are high that someone is bidding ♥, and you really don't care who that is.

To me this hand is worth a reverse: I play that rebidding the 5 card suit shows the 5=6, and partner should appreciate that such hands may not hold as many hcp as would the classic reverse.

Finally, imagine opening 1♠ and hearing the opps bid and raise ♥. You may find yourself unable to ever bid your best suit! Whereas, opening 1♦ allows you complete freedom: I would bid ♠ up to and including the 4 level if need be.

[pclayton]

There's two ways to handle this hand. I generally open it 1♦ although if my spades are significantly better than my diamonds, then I will treat it as a 5-5 and open 1♠. I'll tend to open 1♠ more at MPs than IMPs too.

I can handle any response except 1N. Over 1N I will either rebid 2♦ if I'm a minimum or reverse with 2♠ with a 5 loser hand or a fair 14-15 or better. The subject hand is more of a minimum I guess with the suspect A♥ and the poor suits. I really don't want to force the action to the 3 level to pattern out with this hand, so I would just rebid 2♦.

Note that this hand is only valuable if you hit a fit with pard.

[pigpenz]

1♦ and bid out my shape to show 6-5

[FrancesHinden]

P_Marlowe, on Dec 12 2005, 11:23 AM, said:

But given the system constrains, i.e. responder bypassing
the mayors in case he is balanced, I think you have to
open 1S, unless you believe the hand strong enough for a
reverse.

No, we were told opener bypasses a major to rebid 1NT, not responder. Not really relevant to the problem, so I'm not sure why we were told it.

As Justin says, I'm not expecting the auction to start 1D p 1Nt p so I'm not going to worry about it. 1D, then bid spades, then bid spades again if necessary.

If the uncontested auction goes

1D - 1H
1S - 2D

there's a lot to be said for passing 2D, not trying 2S, even at matchpoints.
If partner has a minimum response, he'll often have 3 diamonds for his preference (no 1NT bid) and diamonds will play well. If he has 3-card spade support, game will still be not exactly easy. He might have the magic

KQx
xxxx
Kxx
xxx

(where 6S has play)

but he might not.

[Al_U_Card]

FrancesHinden, on Dec 12 2005, 01:40 PM, said:

No, we were told opener bypasses a major to rebid 1NT, not responder.  Not really relevant to the problem, so I'm not sure why we were told it.

The auction 1♦ p 1♥ p 1♠ promises a unbalanced, unlimited (but not able to j/s to 2S) opening hand (could be 4144).

Responder's hand was

Scoring: MP

When LHO didn't lead S, I hooked him for the Q (see other posts on this) and he had it.

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