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Do you bid after partner's preempt?

#21 User is offline   bearmum 

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Posted 2005-November-26, 06:16

Gerben42, on Nov 26 2005, 02:04 AM, said:

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n my junior years I learned that preempts work


But they work more against weaker opponents.

I used to play that white vs red 3 of a major would show a hand too WEAK to make a weak two (think Qxxxxx and out).


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Is it legal to have specific agreements according to vul? (DIRECTORS please reply )

AND did you either pre-alert (in F2F) or selfalert in BBO as to what your agreements are?
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Posted 2005-November-26, 07:08

bearmum, on Nov 26 2005, 07:16 AM, said:

Gerben42, on Nov 26 2005, 02:04 AM, said:

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n my junior years I learned that preempts work


But they work more against weaker opponents.

I used to play that white vs red 3 of a major would show a hand too WEAK to make a weak two (think Qxxxxx and out).


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Is it legal to have specific agreements according to vul? (DIRECTORS please reply )

AND did you either pre-alert (in F2F) or selfalert in BBO as to what your agreements are?

I am no director, but the answer is yes.
Just look at the old 2-3 rule for preempts,
-3 if non vul. -2 if vul., also it is legal
to switch agreement according to seat
some play mini NT if non vul in 1st and
2nd (?) seat.

Marlowe
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Posted 2005-November-26, 12:00

Gerben, I agree with all that you write here of course. I don't think that I've ever opened 3S on Q-6th, perhaps I never was a junior.

It is of course true that preempts work better against weak opponents, heck, everything works better against weak opponents! But it seems equally clear to me that an aggressive preempt style is still a winner against the very best.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2005-November-26, 23:18

Aggressive pre-empt may work beter against weak opponents but ... when asked what say 2♠ means it is a bid awkward when you have to explain: "Pre-empts are normally solid, but may be shaded if partner thinks you are so-so." :)
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Posted 2005-November-27, 07:57

Hannie, on Nov 26 2005, 01:00 PM, said:

Gerben, I agree with all that you write here of course. I don't think that I've ever opened 3S on Q-6th, perhaps I never was a junior.

It is of course true that preempts work better against weak opponents, heck, everything works better against weak opponents! But it seems equally clear to me that an aggressive preempt style is still a winner against the very best.

most of us remember or have read about bergen's preempt, playing with cohen, of 2S with ♠9 5th and about 4 hcp.. other pair ended in 3nt and 6♠ was cold, even with the bad split

that's only one example, there are lots more... but most of us don't have ice water in our veins, or partners as understanding as cohen was
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Posted 2005-November-28, 12:31

pass seems clear. Your partner had an excellent hand and slam was still not great (albeit it was good). Now, make partners side 4 small diamonds instead of clubs (both equally likely). You don't even want to get to the 5 level now. And yes, partner could have QJ98xxxx of spades and out at these colors.
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