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1x - DBL - Your bid with a bad hand

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Posted 2003-October-01, 18:36

After, 1H or 1S (DBL), if 2D or 2H shows a fit, shouldn't a raise to 2H or 2S show a bust, yes, but with maybe only two cards? (ok, unless at unfav.)
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Posted 2003-October-02, 08:30

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After, 1H or 1S (DBL), if 2D or 2H shows a fit, shouldn't a raise to 2H or 2S show a bust, yes, but with maybe only two cards? (ok, unless at unfav.)


We use the transfer to show a raise with an honour, and the direct raise to be honourless. I'm not sure that it is particularly sound to be systemically raising on a doubleton, even doubleton honour, although it is a tactical option.

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Posted 2003-October-03, 12:13

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After, 1H or 1S (DBL), if 2D or 2H shows a fit, shouldn't a raise to 2H or 2S show a bust, yes, but with maybe only two cards? (ok, unless at unfav.)


Absolutely. That is the point of using 1S-X-2H as a constructive raise, it lets you bid a direct 2S on dirt (nothing more than a few spades and a total of 13 cards).

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Posted 2003-October-03, 12:24

About the difference between the transfer raise and the direct raise.
To me a direct raise is a hand that would refuse any invitation to game when pd held an invitational hand.
The transfer raise shows a hand with 6-9 HCP that can accept at least one invitation to game. (Assuming you play 2-way invitations after 1M-2M or something along that lines)

About raising with a doubleton: sometimes, specially with honor doubleton and a distributional hand.
Example:
Kx, x, Jxxx, Jxxxxx
I might bid 2h after 1s-dbl showing a sound raise.
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