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Half of the deck. what do you bid?

Poll: what is your first bid? (39 member(s) have cast votes)

what is your first bid?

  1. Pass (1 votes [2.56%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.56%

  2. Double (31 votes [79.49%])

    Percentage of vote: 79.49%

  3. 1 Spade (3 votes [7.69%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.69%

  4. Other (4 votes [10.26%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.26%

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#21 User is offline   luke warm 

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Posted 2005-November-19, 11:30

2C is 3 suited, usually 11-15 hcp... 1C should have 5 controls, but judgment is allowed so with the hand in question, if a person judged to open 1C the rebid is 2D (after a control showing response) to show the 3 suiter

responses to 2C are pretty standard (2NT is game force) except 3 any is invitational brozel...
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Posted 2005-November-19, 11:35

1 for me. Not enough to double followed by NT. Don't mind 1NT too much if you play that as natural.

But: this hand will play terribly without a fit.
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Posted 2005-November-19, 13:00

Hello Gerben 42

Will partner bid 1NT after (1H)-1S-p-? with Ax xx(x) Axxx xxxx(x) ?

I have a strange feeling that I should think about also overcalling 1S.

If partner can pass with for example with say Ax xxx Axxx xxxx
or something like xxx xxx KJxx xxx or xx xxx J10xxx Axxx

I would be somewhat less interested in overcalling 1S. :D

Your overcall may well be right folliowing the percentages. The pay off for dibbing just seems to be very high 'if' partner hold some tickets.

Many(most) people will tend to bid(I suspect) maybe I would resolve my doubts by just following the herd. That kind of bidding is not my normal style. I prefer to blaze a trail by myself. :)

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Posted 2005-November-19, 13:08

Kalvan14, on Nov 19 2005, 05:30 AM, said:

My partner double the 1 bid, and, over my 2, went to 4.
Net result: 2 down (A, hearts ruff; A, hearts ruff, and the A). Before you ask, my hand was:
Q9xx, xxx, AJ9xxx, x

So the final contract was the choice of the infamous unlucky expert: 3 losers, which become 5 (and you cannot even blame bad splits  :D ). Obviously 3 NT make 9 or 10 tricks. The room was in 4 - mostly - with different results: at my table LHO choose A, I suppose that at other tables W might have led x.
No one was in NT. The single ludicrous exception was a table were they played 1 by W (1 down).

I was not exactly excited by the double of my partner. I do agree that pass might be a bit too clever (and then, if E passes and S does not have the strength to bid, what do you want to play?). My first gut choice was for 1NT - off-shape, and stronger than promised, I agree. IMHO, not a single ace is a significant minus, and the 4 honors in hearts should make one think.

Mind, maybe it was just an unlucky hand; otoh, I do hate playing 4 down 2 when 3NT cannot be lost  :)

Call the director, two spade queens.

Certainly a jump to game is called for after partner makes an unexpected 2S jump.
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Posted 2005-November-24, 22:11

:( dbl
wtp? Anything else is taking a rather strong position. I would not mind if my pard did something else since my memory banks don't include a record of good outcomes with that kind of hand after an initial double, but, whatever pard does, it better work.
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Posted 2005-November-24, 23:56

I chose the double, but in most of my partnerships i play that as a power double (15+HCP, any shape) rather than a standard TOX. in standard methods i think double still best, but the hand is not as good as it looks :/
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