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#1 User is offline   Gerben42 

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Posted 2005-November-09, 04:33

First a little bidding problem:

Scoring: IMP


RHO opens an unfavorable 3♠, two passes to partner who doubles, pass to you?

And an opening lead:

Scoring: IMP

Opponents bid uncontested
LHO - RHO
1♦ - 1♠
1NT - 3♠
4♠

Edit:
1NT rebid shows 12 - 14
3♠ is invitational, turns out this wasn't obvious.

Your lead?

This post has been edited by Gerben42: 2005-November-09, 05:55

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Posted 2005-November-09, 04:46

1) 3NT, planning to bid 4C,
if 3NT gets doubled
Pass may work out better,
but currently I feel, I select
only, how do I wanna die.

2) a Trump, going passive

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Posted 2005-November-09, 04:59

Gerben42, on Nov 9 2005, 10:33 AM, said:

 
RHO opens an unfavorable 3♠, two passes to partner who doubles, pass to you? 


Ugh....
At this vulnrability I pass and pray.
Even in the balancing seat pard is supposed to have substantial values and not just an 11/12 hcp with the right shape.
When they do make 3S X NV, it's likely they set us 2/3 tricks in 4C doubled Vuln.
At a different vuln, my choice would be even tougher though...
I just hpe they do not redouble.

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And an opening lead:


Opponents bid uncontested
LHO - RHO
1♦ - 1♠
1NT - 3♠
4♠

Your lead?


Either heart or a trump.
If 3S is invitational only, I lead a trump (they might be stretching, a passive lead is likely to work- any stiff/dblton trump honor held by pard is likely to be picked anyways), if they play 3S as GF, I lead a heart.
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Posted 2005-November-09, 05:57

Mauro: From your comments it seems you have the vuln. backwards? 3♠ opener is vulnerable, you are not. I agree with others that this is the only nice thing about this problem :rolleyes:
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Posted 2005-November-09, 06:15

1)As I don't want to pass to give them game if they make, I will also try 3NT (4!c has probably less chance to make so I go for the game and I tell partner I have a stopper)

2) close between ♥ and trump and I'll finally go for a ............. trump ! :rolleyes:

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Posted 2005-November-09, 06:21

Gerben42, on Nov 9 2005, 11:57 AM, said:

Mauro: From your comments it seems you have the vuln. backwards? 3♠ opener is vulnerable, you are not. I agree with others that this is the only nice thing about this problem :rolleyes:

Ugh, I thought we were vuln and opps not...

If the vuln is reversed, I'll try 4C
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Posted 2005-November-09, 09:02

1) 3NT

2) ♥

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Posted 2005-November-09, 09:30

1) Depends on the opps but generally 4C (unless they're juniors :lol:) I will trust my red/white opponent, and just think theyre too likely to make. I do not think 3N can be bid on a yarborough like this. If you have any play for 3N, good luck when pard starts jumping to slam or bidding 4N/4m :lol:

2) Heart. Looks like it's time to go agressive with my terrible diamond holding, we need to set up some tricks.
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Posted 2005-November-09, 10:18

With this dreck, I tentatively bid 4C and hope that LHO gets creative and bids 4S....

I will lead a H as a "field" lead...no point in helping the S position analysis.
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Posted 2005-November-09, 12:01

1) 4c
2) lowest h
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Posted 2005-November-09, 13:56

1) Pass. I believe that most people preempt too aggressively at unfavorable. Partner must have a good hand on this auction -- if partner has a "light" balancing double then he has only one spade, in which case why did LHO holding two spades and good cards not raise to game? I like my chances at five tricks on defense a lot better than my chances of ten tricks in clubs or nine in notrumps. Certainly it is possible that 3♠X will make, in which case I have probably turned -500 into -730, but down one seems like a quite likely result here whereas a 4♣ call could still be going for 300. I'm also not convinced that if I bid, partner (who is pretty much marked with a good hand) will pass, so even if 4♣ is making or one off, we will end up in 5♣...

2) Small heart, not giving anything away. The strong hearts, if any, are likely to be in dummy.
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Posted 2005-November-09, 14:14

awm, on Nov 9 2005, 02:56 PM, said:

1) Pass. Certainly it is possible that 3♠X will make, in which case I have probably turned -500 into -730, but down one seems like a quite likely result here whereas a 4♣ call could still be going for 300.

Usually, when my partner indicates a course of action (knowing my hand types) unless I have something more or less unexpected, I will do as asked. He would pass if he wanted to defend 3S, so passing seems pretty anti-partnership to me.
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Posted 2005-November-09, 14:39

1. 3NT in 5 seconds with a happy expresion :-) If 3NT is doubled I stand for it.
2. Diamond automatic, trying to ruin the communications in the critical suit inmediately.
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Posted 2005-November-09, 14:48

awm, on Nov 9 2005, 02:56 PM, said:

1) Pass. I believe that most people preempt too aggressively at unfavorable. Partner must have a good hand on this auction -- if partner has a "light" balancing double then he has only one spade, in which case why did LHO holding two spades and good cards not raise to game? I like my chances at five tricks on defense a lot better than my chances of ten tricks in clubs or nine in notrumps. Certainly it is possible that 3♠X will make, in which case I have probably turned -500 into -730, but down one seems like a quite likely result here whereas a 4♣ call could still be going for 300. I'm also not convinced that if I bid, partner (who is pretty much marked with a good hand) will pass, so even if 4♣ is making or one off, we will end up in 5♣...

I would agree with you adam, if they always remembered to X 4C. In practice it seems like you will often go -100 or -150 and convert that into -730 sometimes. It can be hard to X when partner has opened with a preempt, you basically need it set in your hand for sure.
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Posted 2005-November-09, 14:53

1. 4♣. Takeout takeout doubles unless the decision is clear. Here, it is far from clear. Plus the vulnerability is the best possible for this action: if it were reversed, I'd pass.

3N, as Justin commented, is asking for trouble. It is an outright lie: and in the worst possible way. It greatly overstates one's values opposite an unlimited partner. If you knew that 3N would be doubled and that partner had a bad hand, then 3N followed by 4♣ might work: it would still be wrong, but it might work.

But what if partner is sitting there with a flat 20 or so? Is there anything about the auction that says he is not?

2. ♥: I would like to play top of nothing here, but I never play that. So the small ♥ (3rd and 5th or 3rd and lowest) even tho it may mislead partner.

I almost never lead trump: the old saying 'when in doubt lead trump' is a misprint. The correct saying is 'when in doubt don't lead trump'. When you are in doubt as often as I am, it is important to get these rules right :D
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Posted 2005-November-09, 14:56

mikeh, on Nov 9 2005, 03:53 PM, said:

I almost never lead trump: the old saying 'when in doubt lead trump' is a misprint. The correct saying is 'when in doubt don't lead trump'. When you are in doubt as often as I am, it is important to get these rules right :)

I seem to recall it as "Only lead trump when it is right!" :D
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Posted 2005-November-09, 17:38

1. there is something funny here: it looks like a deck without aces :D . RHO opened pre-emptive. Shall we say he might have 8 to 10 HCP?. I have 4, flat. LHO passed, so I doubt he has fast tricks (or, at least, enough fast tricks to help his pard to land a vuln game - at IMPs!!). as a consequence, pard should be quite rich :) While the first reaction would be to bid, i believe i will keep the double.
2. 6♥, playing MUD. there should not be too many ruffs to prevent in LHO hand; a trump lead would be certainly neutral, but i think i might see if i can lead through LHO hearts holding
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Posted 2005-November-09, 17:52

1. i'd pass and lead the ♥9

2. trump leads usually are better if you think declarer might need to ruff his 2nd suit.. here i don't think he has a 2nd suit... also, lho bid the nt so i'm leading the ♥9
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Posted 2005-November-10, 07:02

Hand 1:
Partner had a 14-count for his double with two small Spades, and 2443 distribution.

At my table I bid a confident 3NT for a happy 3 down and -150. They forgot to double, after which I would have bid SOS redouble and partner 4♦.

Passing 3♠X would have given us -730.

At the other table they tried 4♣ and LHO thought it was his birthday and it was. 1100.

Hand 2:

Any ♥ is best as this beats the contract against most declarers.

A trump is 2nd best as this beats the contract against most declarers as long as partner finds the correct switch after winning the trump.

A minor suit lead makes things easy for declarer.
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