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#1 User is offline   whereagles 

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Posted 2005-November-04, 17:50

Matchpoints opposite very cunning opps. NV vs NV you hold:

xx
Qxx
Txxx
Txxx

not a very inspiring collection, but you're about to be called to the most important decision of the hand.

LHO pard RHO you
1....2...4..pass
pass..4...5..pass
pass..dbl...pass..??

Pard's 2 was michaels. From what you know of RHO, he may be luring you into bidding, or he might have grossly underbid the round before.

Your choices are 5, pass and 6 = pass/correct. Your bid?
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Posted 2005-November-04, 17:52

pass. I expect we will beat them and dont expect slam will make. Pards X is not "trumps" but it is "good defense and offense" with a strong hand. It basically says it is our deal.
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Posted 2005-November-04, 18:04

Hello everyone

Pass. I hope to beat them and the LAW says that the tricks should not often be there.

Sometimes there are 22 tricks, however, pass goes with the odds. We have 9-10 turmps and they have at most 10 hearts.

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Posted 2005-November-04, 18:06

Robert, on Nov 4 2005, 07:04 PM, said:

Hello everyone

Pass. I hope to beat them and the LAW says that the tricks should not often be there.

Sometimes there are 22 tricks, however, pass goes with the odds. We have 9-10 turmps and they have at most 10 hearts.

Regards,
Robert

I don't think you can use the law at this level. I don't use the law ever but I'm sure it's much less accurate at the 5/6 level.
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Posted 2005-November-04, 21:45

Seems like passing is the right thing. obvious at IMPs were just making costs not too much, but also here partner should have a good collection. Only thing to get rid of this pass should be a double fit, but we don't have one.
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Posted 2005-November-04, 23:15

Particularly playing some Min/Max variety of Micheals where partner's 4 call should now show a good hand, I think passing the double is a must. Not only that, but the auction gave me two previous chances to compete and I passed. Partner knows the situation.
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy - but it might improve my bridge.
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Posted 2005-November-05, 00:45

whereagles, on Nov 4 2005, 06:50 PM, said:

Matchpoints opposite very cunning opps. NV vs NV you hold:

xx
Qxx
Txxx
Txxx

not a very inspiring collection, but you're about to be called to the most important decision of the hand.

LHO pard RHO you
1....2...4..pass
pass..4...5..pass
pass..dbl...pass..??

Pard's 2 was michaels. From what you know of RHO, he may be luring you into bidding, or he might have grossly underbid the round before.

Your choices are 5, pass and 6 = pass/correct. Your bid?

pass. wtp?
Senshu
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Posted 2005-November-05, 01:40

Pass :rolleyes:
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Posted 2005-November-06, 09:07

Thx all. I also passed at table, only to find out the full deal was:

Scoring: MP

LHO pard RHO we
1 .. 2 .. 4 pass
pass .4 .. 5 pass
pass .. X (all pass)

Declarer ruffed pard's A lead, finessed the J, cashed another trump and ran the clubs for 12 tricks :)

Before passing, I did a "Fought the Law" analysis and knew we probably weren't going to make 12 tricks. But perhaps passing was too much of a risk compared to the cheap insurance of bidding 6m.
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Posted 2005-November-06, 10:13

If partner doubles and they make, it is hardly your fault. Did he think he hadn't already told his story with his first two calls?
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Posted 2005-November-06, 10:21

I was about to say I would bid, but then the full hand was shown and now you'll just think I am resulting.

I was very close to bidding 5NT over 5H.

Perhaps the rest of you have a different idea to me of what partner's actions should mean on this auction.
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Posted 2005-November-06, 10:40

hello everone

I pass, however, that decision would be made opposite what my partner would normally hold.

Doubling 5H with that example hand is 'not' my style. Not even close.

Opposite a partner that bid that way, I would tend to 'bid' higher.

I do not feel that 'pulling' the double is 'resulting' if partner is capable of making those bids with that hand.

His double suggests that he bids whenever it is his turn to call. Some players might find the pass card to be a highly unlikely choice.

Your partner has 2-3 tricks on defense and one opponent suggests a 'strange hand type'(void or double singleton perhaps?) by bidding at the five level. His guess for about 2 defensive tricks is the common result opposite most people 'who freely compete' at the five level.

Partner should pass and they can play 5H undoubled. He should have a 16+HCP hand to bid Michaels and 'bid again' in my style anyway.

Taking out cheap insurance at MPs is not often a good idea. A bottom is a bottom is a bottom. Even a shared bottom is no real prize.

At IMPs you might sometimes take out cheap insurance. Partner claimed to have the defensive values to play/defend at the 5 level. He came up short in my opinion.

Sometimes you find that strange layouts make a contract. Pass is the normal choice 'if' partner holds 'extra' defensive values.

Regards,
Robert
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