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5card H - 4card C takeout X of partner

#1 User is offline   kgr 

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Posted 2005-November-01, 06:38

Scoring: MP

Bidding:
(1♠)-DBL-(2♦)-1st?
Suppose you bid 2♥ here. Do you agree?
Bidding continues:
(3♦)-3NT-(DBL)-2nd?
Partner did show 18+hand with stoppers in ♠ and ♦. Do you pass or bid 4♣?
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Posted 2005-November-01, 08:40

I'm bidding 4♥ because if I bid 4♣, it might be taken as 4 hearts and 5 clubs.
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Posted 2005-November-01, 08:54

I would bid 4C. I'm mainly worried about finding a playable strain, and partner can still have a stiff heart. If they X loud enough I can still run back to hearts.
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  Posted 2005-November-01, 09:03

kgr, on Nov 1 2005, 07:38 AM, said:

Scoring: MP

Bidding:
(1♠)-DBL-(2♦)-1st?
Suppose you bid 2♥ here. Do you agree?

Bidding continues:
(3♦)-3NT-(DBL)-2nd?
Partner did show 18+hand with stoppers in ♠ and ♦. Do you pass or bid 4♣?

I agree with 2H the first time.
You must pull the 3NT x and I would tend to show the 4 card Club suit at this point. Partner probably has 18-19, too much to overcall 1NT. You are simply looking for the best fit because 3NT does not look appetizing with your 3 HCP :)
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Posted 2005-November-01, 10:02

For me, all white, this hand has the absolute minimum that the "free" bid of 2H promises (decent shape makes up for the paucity of hcp). That being said, if pard expects me to make that bid with 6-7 hcp I would pass initially. If he "knows" that I can have this hand then I will pass 3NT with apologies in hand.
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Posted 2005-November-01, 16:15

1. I don't agree with 2♥. The reason is here.
2. redbl.
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Posted 2005-November-01, 16:26

I agree with the 2♥ bid: not many points, but good shape and 5 hearts.
I cannot leave 3NX: 4♣ is probably the best (even if I agree that it looks like 4♥ only). OTOH, pard is strong (at least 18-19 HCP), and might be short in ♥
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Posted 2005-November-01, 17:59

Scoring: MP

My partner did have a strong hand and singleton H. He did not have the shape for an immediate 1NT overcall and upgraded his hand to 18HP.
West did lead a ♦ against 4 Clubs and I did make +1. (clubs 2-2; club K good and Spade ATxxx with West). ...Should North bid 5C?
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Posted 2005-November-01, 18:28

kgr, on Nov 1 2005, 06:59 PM, said:

Scoring: MP

My partner did have a strong hand and singleton H. He did not have the shape for an immediate 1NT overcall and upgraded his hand to 18HP.
West did lead a ♦ against 4 Clubs and I did make +1. (clubs 2-2; club K good and Spade ATxxx with West). ...Should North bid 5C?

Difficult to say: it must be a table decision.
In any case, 5♣ is not a cast-iron contract. How many MP did you get out of 4♣ + 1?
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Posted 2005-November-03, 17:23

Kalvan14, on Nov 2 2005, 02:28 AM, said:

kgr, on Nov 1 2005, 06:59 PM, said:

Dealer: West
Vul: None
Scoring: MP
♠ QJ9x
♥ A
♦ Axx
♣ AQxxx
♠ xxx
♥ QTxxx
♦ x
♣ JTxx
 

My partner did have a strong hand and singleton H. He did not have the shape for an immediate 1NT overcall and upgraded his hand to 18HP.
West did lead a ♦ against 4 Clubs and I did make +1. (clubs 2-2; club K good and Spade ATxxx with West). ...Should North bid 5C?

Difficult to say: it must be a table decision.
In any case, 5♣ is not a cast-iron contract. How many MP did you get out of 4♣ + 1?

If I remember well then 4C+1 did give us a top, but shouldn't we aim for more :D
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