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What does the jump mean?

Poll: You dealed and opened 1S, RHO covered with 2, PD jumped to 3H, what's the meaning? (13 member(s) have cast votes)

You dealed and opened 1S, RHO covered with 2, PD jumped to 3H, what's the meaning?

  1. Nv-VulWeak Jump Shift 7+ cards H, 8- hcps (6 votes [46.15%])

    Percentage of vote: 46.15%

  2. Invitational, Semi-solid suit and side strength (2 votes [15.38%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.38%

  3. Mini-splinter, 4+ S, singleton H (1 votes [7.69%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.69%

  4. Mixed raise (3 votes [23.08%])

    Percentage of vote: 23.08%

  5. Limited raise (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  6. Preemptive spade raise (1 votes [7.69%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.69%

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#1 User is offline   adhoc3 

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Posted 2005-October-30, 23:39

1♠-2♣-3♥?

This won't be a problem for regular PDs. Just curious about how would this jump to be interpreted for expert players IN GENERAL (if there is a GENERAL)?
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Posted 2005-October-31, 01:30

Undiscussed no idea. I would probably look at my hand to decide what pard meant it as :rolleyes: If I was playing with a French player I would assume fit :blink:
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Posted 2005-October-31, 03:29

Also no idea undiscussed, with discussion I prefer to play Robson - Segal style. Then 3♥ is a Fit Showing Jump, something like:


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Posted 2005-October-31, 07:35

Gerben42, on Oct 31 2005, 09:29 AM, said:

Also no idea undiscussed, with discussion I prefer to play Robson - Segal style. Then 3♥ is a Fit Showing Jump, something like:

Dealer: ?????
Vul: ????
Scoring: Unknown
♠ Axxx
♥ KQTxx
♦ xx
♣ xx
 

I think this hand is too strong for a 3-level FJS: using R-S I'd either bid 2NT (inv+ 4 card raise, even when 2NT is nonjump) or FJS at the 4 level.

I would bid a 3-level FJS holding, say, JTxx,KQTxx,xx,xx, basically a mixed raise with concentrated values: with a 10 count or equivalent (Gerben's 9 count is indeed a worth 10 count), IMO better avoid a 3-level FJS but use a stronger bid.
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Posted 2005-October-31, 08:55

Mauro, if you allow me one brief comment, if you judge that hand too strong for a 3-level fit-bid, then bid a 4-level fit-bid. To bid 2NT on that hand is a far greater distortion than any fit-bid available.
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Posted 2005-October-31, 09:40

Jlall, on Oct 31 2005, 02:30 AM, said:

Undiscussed no idea. I would probably look at my hand to decide what pard meant it as :( If I was playing with a French player I would assume fit :P

Must be a big fit there, when someone call 'sweet heart' to you. ;)
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Posted 2005-October-31, 14:08

A couple of weeks ago I played for the first time with pclayton. I believe our agreements were 2/1 GF, udca, support jump shifts in competition. I don't think that we had any other agreements, if we did I forgot them.

Undiscussed I would never bid this and I would have no idea what 3H is when partner bids it. I prefer to discuss this.
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Posted 2005-October-31, 14:10

Undiscussed I always assume Mike Lawrence style bidding here in USA.
That means no fit jumps and 3h is long and weak.
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