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2 ♠ shows at least 4 spades and as many or more in a minor suit. Should you run to the 3 level?
(The double is not alerted and "no agreement" is the answer to the question.)
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Posted 2005-October-31, 09:32
2 ♠ shows at least 4 spades and as many or more in a minor suit. Should you run to the 3 level?
(The double is not alerted and "no agreement" is the answer to the question.)
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Posted 2005-October-31, 09:35
no partner bid he sowed the seeds on this one if he wants to run he can
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Posted 2005-October-31, 09:47
Al_U_Card, on Oct 31 2005, 03:32 PM, said:
Scoring: MP
1NT-2♠-DBL-?
1NT-2♠-DBL-?
2 ♠ shows at least 4 spades and as many or more in a minor suit. Should you run to the 3 level?
(The double is not alerted and "no agreement" is the answer to the question.)
if 2S shows a Raptor hand (4S and 5+ in a minor), I'll run.
If instead length can be equal, I pass
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Posted 2005-October-31, 11:56
pass: if 3♣ is better, too bad: I cannot reach it. If 3♦ is worse, great, I avoided it
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Posted 2005-October-31, 12:47
Very nice hand. Textbook example as for why 2M = M + minor is problematic 
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Posted 2005-October-31, 17:29
I pass
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Posted 2005-October-31, 18:46
cherdano, on Oct 31 2005, 01:47 PM, said:
Very nice hand. Textbook example as for why 2M = M + minor is problematic
"problematic" ... very nice word
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Posted 2005-October-31, 18:50
Pass, and then ditch the defense.
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Posted 2005-October-31, 19:20
Pass
Assume partner knows what he is doing when bidding vulnerable.
Put the dummy down and go get a beer
Assume partner knows what he is doing when bidding vulnerable.
Put the dummy down and go get a beer
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Posted 2005-October-31, 19:42
Pass. pard can read the vulnerability, and I have full confidence in his bid.
I play DONT on 1N, so this kind of decision is quite common. Run does not pay (but another thing does not pay: interventions where the 2nd suit is much better than the first, unless you have already decided to run)
I play DONT on 1N, so this kind of decision is quite common. Run does not pay (but another thing does not pay: interventions where the 2nd suit is much better than the first, unless you have already decided to run)
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Posted 2005-November-02, 05:43
Hi,
Pass.
Even if in theory 2S could be 4-4, and I
dont think this is a good idea, the minor
should be a 5 card suit, because if I need
to look at the 3 level, I need to be sure,
that I improve the contract,
you are vul., so partner should not bid complete
garbage.
With kind regards
Marlowe
Pass.
Even if in theory 2S could be 4-4, and I
dont think this is a good idea, the minor
should be a 5 card suit, because if I need
to look at the 3 level, I need to be sure,
that I improve the contract,
you are vul., so partner should not bid complete
garbage.
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
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Posted 2005-November-02, 05:43
Kalvan14, on Oct 31 2005, 08:42 PM, said:
Pass. pard can read the vulnerability, and I have full confidence in his bid.
I play DONT on 1N, so this kind of decision is quite common. Run does not pay (but another thing does not pay: interventions where the 2nd suit is much better than the first, unless you have already decided to run)
I play DONT on 1N, so this kind of decision is quite common. Run does not pay (but another thing does not pay: interventions where the 2nd suit is much better than the first, unless you have already decided to run)
The main difference to DONT:
you still play on the 2 level, if
you run.
Marlowe
With kind regards
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Posted 2005-November-02, 05:49
Pass
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Posted 2005-November-02, 14:55
Pass!
Seems like a choice between homocide and suicide. The hand just became random. Where did you come up with this bidding structure?
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Seems like a choice between homocide and suicide. The hand just became random. Where did you come up with this bidding structure?
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Posted 2005-November-02, 15:20
One of my reg's favorite "toys" (MOLSON) I usually play DONT or CANT
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Posted 2005-November-02, 16:43
Agree with Arend.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2005-November-02, 17:01
P_Marlowe, on Nov 2 2005, 06:43 AM, said:
Kalvan14, on Oct 31 2005, 08:42 PM, said:
Pass. pard can read the vulnerability, and I have full confidence in his bid.
I play DONT on 1N, so this kind of decision is quite common. Run does not pay (but another thing does not pay: interventions where the 2nd suit is much better than the first, unless you have already decided to run)
I play DONT on 1N, so this kind of decision is quite common. Run does not pay (but another thing does not pay: interventions where the 2nd suit is much better than the first, unless you have already decided to run)
The main difference to DONT:
you still play on the 2 level, if
you run.
Marlowe
It's true. And actually it is one of the reasons for which I like DONT. Still, the advice not to run applies in both cases (and in particular after a vulnerable intervention)
There is the human factor too: I am not so convinced that 1N opener will keep this double, in particular if it is true that there is no agreement. You never know what may happen: yesterday night, bidding goes: (1N)-2♦-(P)-P-(X). Believe it or not, doubler had ♦! It was the classic DONT hand: I had 5♣, 4♥-2-2, and partner had 5♦-4♠-3♥-1♣. My RHO could not keep the double (would have done better passing: 2♦X can be made, but it is a struggle): they ended up playing 3♣X down 3.
So, it is better (on average) to pass with confidence, and hope for the best
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Posted 2005-November-04, 10:20
If double is penalty I'd flee...
Wait, if 2♠ shows 4♠ then I wouldn't ever play this convention
Wait, if 2♠ shows 4♠ then I wouldn't ever play this convention
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