[Al_U_Card]

Playing 15-17 NT, with an "expert" pick-up partner but no previous discussion are there any continuations after 1NT-2C-2D-3C by the opener?

[han]

No.

[inquiry]

Hannie, on Oct 25 2005, 03:58 PM, said:

No.

Funny. I always thought if undiscussed minor rebids by responder after stayman were forcing.

[Al_U_Card]

Strange because it seems to me that non-forcing stayman allows you hold invitational or better hands in the majors or "to play" hands in the minors.......but my view may be claustrophobic..

[Al_U_Card]

Jlall, on Oct 25 2005, 03:14 PM, said:

2C then 3m would be forcing undiscussed (where I come from).

Would that require that you play 4 suit transfers or not?

[FrancesHinden]

With an English pick-up partner & no discussion about 4-suit transfers I would pass 3m.

With an English partner playing 4-suit transfers I would assume partner had a 4CM, a 6-card minor & (light) invitational values, and would often but not always pass.

With an American pick-up partner & no discussion I would assume 3m is natural & forcing.

[Al_U_Card]

The purpose being to play in 3NT or 4C but never to get away from 2D with 4-2-1-6 and less than 8 hcp?

[mike777]

in usa assume 100% game force.

With an expert p/u partner and typical no discussion, 1nt=2s can have a lot of meanings but one thing for sure it does not mean spades . I always plan to bid 2nt over 2s and pass any minor suit rebid by partner .

[han]

I misread the question. I thought the question was whether there is a consensus about the meaning of 3C and continuations, and I thought there was not.

I see that there is an agreement among English playing with English and Americans playing with Americans, this is new to me. To quote Sherlock Holmes: now that I know this irrelevant piece of information, I will try to forget it as soon as possible.

[Al_U_Card]

I had a 3244 16 count with Qxxx in C. Pard had a 15 count that I might have expected him to ask quantitatively (especially undiscussed)....