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Buddy just emailed me these 3 quiz hands from SWISS tourney against some very well known players. Enjoy.
1. KQTxx Jxx Kxx Jx
No vully.......... (2D)= ??
I assume RHO here has opened a weak 2d bid.
2. - Jxxx Qxx AKxxxx
Vul vs Not
2S P 6S 7H
P P 7S P
P ??
3. Jxxx Txxx KJTxx -
Both Vul
P P 1C 1NT
2D* 3nt all pass
* shows the majors...
Your lead?
3 quiz hands from live tourney
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Posted 2005-October-24, 17:04
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Posted 2005-October-24, 17:37
lol...these were all played against me at a sectional. Board 1 was too ridiculous for words imo. But I may just be bitter 
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Posted 2005-October-24, 17:39
1. Pass but 2♠ is not bad
2. Dbl
3. ♦J
Don't see any reason to get cute/creative with any of these.
2. Dbl
3. ♦J
Don't see any reason to get cute/creative with any of these.
A bit of blatant self-pimping - I've got a new poker book that's getting good reviews.
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Posted 2005-October-24, 19:41
Can't be Justin, Mike said "very well known players".
1. Obvious pass for me.
2. 8H, expecting to make it. More serious: double and lead a trump.
3. ♦J
1. Obvious pass for me.
2. 8H, expecting to make it. More serious: double and lead a trump.
3. ♦J
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2005-October-24, 21:28
1 - Pass - yuk.
2 - If Im reading auction right, pard bid 7♥ and then passed 7♠. It is impossible for him to make a FP when Im holding the ♣AK, so something is amiss.
3 - Small diamond - Don't want to hand them a trick when diamonds are 5=2=2=4 around the table. If pard can't beat the diamond spot we probably arent beating it anyway.
2 - If Im reading auction right, pard bid 7♥ and then passed 7♠. It is impossible for him to make a FP when Im holding the ♣AK, so something is amiss.
3 - Small diamond - Don't want to hand them a trick when diamonds are 5=2=2=4 around the table. If pard can't beat the diamond spot we probably arent beating it anyway.
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Posted 2005-October-24, 21:52
Here are my chicken choices...do not know answers yet.
1) pass
2) pass
3) second highest heart.
1) pass
2) pass
3) second highest heart.
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Posted 2005-October-24, 23:02
How could pass not be forcing? Pard bid a grand by himself red/white. The opponent who just bid 6S is now bidding 7S. Do you really think they are making? You also have an AK and a Q even if partner is not making an FP you might beat it... It seems like pass just invites a 7N bid and thus shows the spade ace. Not sure what the logic behind "pass is not forcing because I have the AK of clubs" is...pard doesn't know you have the AK of clubs, so he made his bid meaning it one way without knowing your cards.
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Posted 2005-October-24, 23:45
7NT .
then opps will sacrifice 8♠
then opps will sacrifice 8♠
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Posted 2005-October-25, 03:12
1) Pass. 2S for me shows a better hand. Partner isn't barred from bidding if he has something to bid on, and my diamond holding suggests that the auction won't be jammed by a huge amount.
2) I'm doubling this on principle. I'm assuming partner's pass means "I don't know what's going on with this highly warped auction", but 7NT is too much of a blind leap of faith here.
3) This calls for an attacking lead, so a small diamond from me.
2) I'm doubling this on principle. I'm assuming partner's pass means "I don't know what's going on with this highly warped auction", but 7NT is too much of a blind leap of faith here.
3) This calls for an attacking lead, so a small diamond from me.
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Posted 2005-October-25, 04:14
1. You don't say what the form of scoring is. At pairs I bid 2S. At IMPS I would probably pass, but I don't mind 2S.
2. I don't think pass is forcing. We have no idea who is making what, nor if 7H was bid to make or not. If you held - AKQxxxxxx KJxx - and it went 2S P 6S to you, what would you do?
I double. I think partner is more likely to have a club void than LHO. I can construct hands consistent with the auction where it makes, but that's life.
3. Low diamond. I hate the 2D bid by the way - I'd much prefer to have bid 2D naturally!
2. I don't think pass is forcing. We have no idea who is making what, nor if 7H was bid to make or not. If you held - AKQxxxxxx KJxx - and it went 2S P 6S to you, what would you do?
I double. I think partner is more likely to have a club void than LHO. I can construct hands consistent with the auction where it makes, but that's life.
3. Low diamond. I hate the 2D bid by the way - I'd much prefer to have bid 2D naturally!
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Posted 2005-October-25, 07:47
1) Pass, I have nothing, if my pd can't double we are good, I think anyone who overcalls 2♠ here sould get doubled with ♠ stack behind them and go down 6 and see yet another pair of teammates disappear with the sun, options getting very thin... 
2) Funny, pd get's in with 7♥ and then he passes 7♠, obviously this has to be forcing
but does it guarantee ♠A ?
I don't know if I am willing to gamble 7NT, even if he has the ace we are not guaranteed 13 tricks, so I will just double and take my save +.
3) I will lead ♦T, or if playing std leads the ♦J, I have no entree besides the Ace, so the need to break 3-3 or 3-2, but if I leading low and Qxx hits dummy, pd will need to go up with Axx. Would hate to see the ♦8 make the 9th trick
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2) Funny, pd get's in with 7♥ and then he passes 7♠, obviously this has to be forcing
but does it guarantee ♠A ?I don't know if I am willing to gamble 7NT, even if he has the ace we are not guaranteed 13 tricks, so I will just double and take my save +.
3) I will lead ♦T, or if playing std leads the ♦J, I have no entree besides the Ace, so the need to break 3-3 or 3-2, but if I leading low and Qxx hits dummy, pd will need to go up with Axx. Would hate to see the ♦8 make the 9th trick
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Posted 2005-October-25, 08:25
Jlall, on Oct 24 2005, 09:02 PM, said:
How could pass not be forcing? Pard bid a grand by himself red/white. The opponent who just bid 6S is now bidding 7S. Do you really think they are making? You also have an AK and a Q even if partner is not making an FP you might beat it... It seems like pass just invites a 7N bid and thus shows the spade ace. Not sure what the logic behind "pass is not forcing because I have the AK of clubs" is...pard doesn't know you have the AK of clubs, so he made his bid meaning it one way without knowing your cards.
I never said they were making. I double with conviction (lacking from my comments, but I think its obvious).
LOL - I'll bet you can't construct a hand for him where a forcing pass makes sense. How can he possibly be inviting to 7N?
Maybe he's just bidding 7♥ on a superfreak. He SHOULD double 7♠ on a hand like that, even holding the A♠.
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Posted 2005-October-25, 09:24
1. Pass, pretty obvious to me
2. Pass, double would probably make partner lead a ♦, ,but maybe I am wrong. Partner can figure by himself that ♥A won't cash
3. ♦10, what else?
2. Pass, double would probably make partner lead a ♦, ,but maybe I am wrong. Partner can figure by himself that ♥A won't cash
3. ♦10, what else?
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Posted 2005-October-25, 09:55
I'm going to repeat something I said earlier with more conviction.
I don't believe partner's pass over 7S is forcing. I certainly don't believe he's showing the SA and inviting you to bid 7NT.
If both LHO and partner are sane, the hand is a huge freak. Either player could have been saving. Partner could have bid 7H to make (- AKxxxxxx AKxxxx -) - though on that hand we would have doubled 7S - or not. We don't know. He could have been bidding 7H to make, but from his point of view 7S could be making as well.
Once you get to this level, there's little point in a forcing pass. You can't bid 8H.
I don't believe partner's pass over 7S is forcing. I certainly don't believe he's showing the SA and inviting you to bid 7NT.
If both LHO and partner are sane, the hand is a huge freak. Either player could have been saving. Partner could have bid 7H to make (- AKxxxxxx AKxxxx -) - though on that hand we would have doubled 7S - or not. We don't know. He could have been bidding 7H to make, but from his point of view 7S could be making as well.
Once you get to this level, there's little point in a forcing pass. You can't bid 8H.
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Posted 2005-October-25, 09:56
Fluffy, on Oct 25 2005, 10:24 AM, said:
2. Pass, double would probably make partner lead a ♦, ,but maybe I am wrong. Partner can figure by himself that ♥A won't cash
We're on lead.
I imagine we're going to lead a top club (anything else strikes me as (over)-inspired).
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Posted 2005-October-25, 10:49
Ya, my quiz choice pass of 7s on hand two was insane, please ignore.
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Hand 1: heck, not vulnerable...got a really good suit, the King of diamonds is well placed...if pard has a good hand, finesses in the round suits will tend to win....So i bid 2 only spades.
-- -- 2D 2S
4D 7S all pass
Axx
AKTxx
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AQT9x
KQTxx
Jxx
Kxx
Jx
Small diamond led...Plan the play....
Hand 2: Partner didnt bid a VUL 7 hearts as a sacrifice. And his passs of 7S spades garentees the ace. You choice is between double and 7NT.
At the table I doubled....Wish i'd tried 7NT....the hands are:
Vul vs Not
2S P 6S 7H
P P 7S P
P ??
Ax AKQxxx AKxx x
- Jxxx Qxx AKxxxx
While 7 hearts is easy...7NT happens to make cuz lefty has 4-4 in the minors....Our teammates sold out to 7H so we lost a bunch there...
3. Jxxx Txxx KJTxx -
Both Vul P P 1C 1NT
2D* 3nt all pass
* shows the majors...
Your lead?
My pard tried a low diamond, I guess hoping I had Ax and that Queen is doubleton i suppose....Unlucky...
Other hands are:
A98x Qx
KQx Axx
A9xx Qxx
Qx K9xxx
KTx
J9x
x
AJT8xx
With any other lead, declarer is held to 2 diamond tricks, and probably goes set, as our teammates did.
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Hand 1: heck, not vulnerable...got a really good suit, the King of diamonds is well placed...if pard has a good hand, finesses in the round suits will tend to win....So i bid 2 only spades.
-- -- 2D 2S
4D 7S all pass
Axx
AKTxx
-
AQT9x
KQTxx
Jxx
Kxx
Jx
Small diamond led...Plan the play....
Hand 2: Partner didnt bid a VUL 7 hearts as a sacrifice. And his passs of 7S spades garentees the ace. You choice is between double and 7NT.
At the table I doubled....Wish i'd tried 7NT....the hands are:
Vul vs Not
2S P 6S 7H
P P 7S P
P ??
Ax AKQxxx AKxx x
- Jxxx Qxx AKxxxx
While 7 hearts is easy...7NT happens to make cuz lefty has 4-4 in the minors....Our teammates sold out to 7H so we lost a bunch there...
3. Jxxx Txxx KJTxx -
Both Vul P P 1C 1NT
2D* 3nt all pass
* shows the majors...
Your lead?
My pard tried a low diamond, I guess hoping I had Ax and that Queen is doubleton i suppose....Unlucky...
Other hands are:
A98x Qx
KQx Axx
A9xx Qxx
Qx K9xxx
KTx
J9x
x
AJT8xx
With any other lead, declarer is held to 2 diamond tricks, and probably goes set, as our teammates did.
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Posted 2005-October-25, 11:16
FrancesHinden, on Oct 25 2005, 10:55 AM, said:
I'm going to repeat something I said earlier with more conviction.
I don't believe partner's pass over 7S is forcing. I certainly don't believe he's showing the SA and inviting you to bid 7NT.
If both LHO and partner are sane, the hand is a huge freak. Either player could have been saving. Partner could have bid 7H to make (- AKxxxxxx AKxxxx -) - though on that hand we would have doubled 7S - or not. We don't know. He could have been bidding 7H to make, but from his point of view 7S could be making as well.
Once you get to this level, there's little point in a forcing pass. You can't bid 8H.
I don't believe partner's pass over 7S is forcing. I certainly don't believe he's showing the SA and inviting you to bid 7NT.
If both LHO and partner are sane, the hand is a huge freak. Either player could have been saving. Partner could have bid 7H to make (- AKxxxxxx AKxxxx -) - though on that hand we would have doubled 7S - or not. We don't know. He could have been bidding 7H to make, but from his point of view 7S could be making as well.
Once you get to this level, there's little point in a forcing pass. You can't bid 8H.
If the opponent bids 6S then 7S he is not bidding 7S to make. He had a million bids over 2S and he chose to bid 6S. He did not think there was any chance for a grand, or he would have searched for it. Are we really going to let them play 7S undoubled ever? I wouldn't, and I don't think it's possible. If he bid 6S to "walk the dog" on the expectation that his red/white opponent would now bid a grand, well done to him.
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Posted 2005-October-25, 11:23
mike777, on Oct 25 2005, 11:49 AM, said:
3. Jxxx Txxx KJTxx -
Both Vul P P 1C 1NT
2D* 3nt all pass
* shows the majors...
Your lead?
My pard tried a low diamond, I guess hoping I had Ax and that Queen is doubleton i suppose....Unlucky...
Other hands are:
A98x Qx
KQx Axx
A9xx Qxx
Qx K9xxx
KTx
J9x
x
AJT8xx
With any other lead, declarer is held to 2 diamond tricks, and probably goes set, as our teammates did.
Both Vul P P 1C 1NT
2D* 3nt all pass
* shows the majors...
Your lead?
My pard tried a low diamond, I guess hoping I had Ax and that Queen is doubleton i suppose....Unlucky...
Other hands are:
A98x Qx
KQx Axx
A9xx Qxx
Qx K9xxx
KTx
J9x
x
AJT8xx
With any other lead, declarer is held to 2 diamond tricks, and probably goes set, as our teammates did.
Nah, I would have made it on the DJ lead. I win the Q, lead a club to the queen, strip hearts, get out a club. RHO cant cash his ace of clubs yet, so must get out with a spade. I win queen, play spade spade, endplaying someone.
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Posted 2005-October-25, 15:24
Jlall, on Oct 25 2005, 12:23 PM, said:
mike777, on Oct 25 2005, 11:49 AM, said:
3. Jxxx Txxx KJTxx -
Both Vul P P 1C 1NT
2D* 3nt all pass
* shows the majors...
Your lead?
My pard tried a low diamond, I guess hoping I had Ax and that Queen is doubleton i suppose....Unlucky...
Other hands are:
A98x Qx
KQx Axx
A9xx Qxx
Qx K9xxx
KTx
J9x
x
AJT8xx
With any other lead, declarer is held to 2 diamond tricks, and probably goes set, as our teammates did.
Both Vul P P 1C 1NT
2D* 3nt all pass
* shows the majors...
Your lead?
My pard tried a low diamond, I guess hoping I had Ax and that Queen is doubleton i suppose....Unlucky...
Other hands are:
A98x Qx
KQx Axx
A9xx Qxx
Qx K9xxx
KTx
J9x
x
AJT8xx
With any other lead, declarer is held to 2 diamond tricks, and probably goes set, as our teammates did.
Nah, I would have made it on the DJ lead. I win the Q, lead a club to the queen, strip hearts, get out a club. RHO cant cash his ace of clubs yet, so must get out with a spade. I win queen, play spade spade, endplaying someone.
1) On hand 3 can I get out with the K of spades?
2) Not sure how to play hand one.
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Posted 2005-October-25, 15:43
edit...
I didnt consider the SK, I see it blocks the spades. However, i think i can still succeed by winning the spade ace, playing spade to the queen, and running the diamond 8 (dummy had Q8x). RHO is in, and if he leads a diamond he gives me an extra diamond trick, if he leads jack and a spade i get an extra spade trick. If he leads a low spade to partner who is now club tight, he must come ace and a club which gives me a club trick. Weird...
I didnt consider the SK, I see it blocks the spades. However, i think i can still succeed by winning the spade ace, playing spade to the queen, and running the diamond 8 (dummy had Q8x). RHO is in, and if he leads a diamond he gives me an extra diamond trick, if he leads jack and a spade i get an extra spade trick. If he leads a low spade to partner who is now club tight, he must come ace and a club which gives me a club trick. Weird...