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*3-7 hcp, 4+ spades, and 4+ minor at least 9 cards between the suits. All the bids are in tempo.
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4th seat headache
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Posted 2005-October-21, 17:11
Luckily this one was a headache for the opponents, not us.
*3-7 hcp, 4+ spades, and 4+ minor at least 9 cards between the suits. All the bids are in tempo.
Your call?
*3-7 hcp, 4+ spades, and 4+ minor at least 9 cards between the suits. All the bids are in tempo.
Your call?
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Posted 2005-October-21, 17:17
2N. These Qxx's seem better for NT, and since RHO didn't raise spades im not too worried about them running the suit (though it's possible), and this limits my hand better than 3H.
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Posted 2005-October-21, 17:36
2NT even though we might miss a heart fit. 3♥ is too unilateral if partner doesn't have support.
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Posted 2005-October-21, 17:42
2N
Recent posts are beginning to show a theme: when 4th seat has a big hand after a 1st seat preempt, notrump is usually a good choice if at all logical.
I appreciate that these notrump bids often seem to fly in the face of what we learn from books and (to some degree) other experienced players: but amongst topflight experts (I am not putting myself in that category) it is a common practice as anyone who subscribes to the Bridge World (which in my somewhat limited reading, is the best magazine around for good bridge discussions) will know.
NT often affords more of that dreaded word 'flexibility': and (perhaps the same thing) caters to more possible outcomes.
Picture this holding of Qxx as dummy in 3N if partner holds Kx, amongst other possibilities. Even missing a 9 card ♥ fit need not be fatal: picture partner with Jxx or Kxx and LHO with AKxxxx or Axxxxx and a minor entry: you may well have 3N making when 4♥ fails.
Recent posts are beginning to show a theme: when 4th seat has a big hand after a 1st seat preempt, notrump is usually a good choice if at all logical.
I appreciate that these notrump bids often seem to fly in the face of what we learn from books and (to some degree) other experienced players: but amongst topflight experts (I am not putting myself in that category) it is a common practice as anyone who subscribes to the Bridge World (which in my somewhat limited reading, is the best magazine around for good bridge discussions) will know.
NT often affords more of that dreaded word 'flexibility': and (perhaps the same thing) caters to more possible outcomes.
Picture this holding of Qxx as dummy in 3N if partner holds Kx, amongst other possibilities. Even missing a 9 card ♥ fit need not be fatal: picture partner with Jxx or Kxx and LHO with AKxxxx or Axxxxx and a minor entry: you may well have 3N making when 4♥ fails.
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Posted 2005-October-21, 17:45
2N, balanced 15-17, roughly, and stopper.
Gotta like that concept to make the bid that shows your hand.
GBB
Gotta like that concept to make the bid that shows your hand.
GBB
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so much the better. If there is restlessness, I am pleased. Then let there
be ideas, and hard thought, and hard work.”
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Posted 2005-October-22, 01:38
2NT, balanced 12-16, roughly, with or without stopper 
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Posted 2005-October-22, 03:18
2NT or 3♥. I'd go for 2NT to get a decent lead, and we can still find a 5-3 ♥ or ♠ fit 
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Posted 2005-October-22, 11:15
Ok. Here's your follow-up. It goes
(2♠) - P - (P) - 2NT
(P) - P - (X) - ?
Hold your ground or bid hearts?
(2♠) - P - (P) - 2NT
(P) - P - (X) - ?
Hold your ground or bid hearts?
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Posted 2005-October-22, 11:16
Agree with 2NT, now I run.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2005-October-22, 11:27
Does anyone use here runout schemes similar to weak NT doubled ?
Something like, more or less:
...XX = I have a 5 bagger
...3X = lowest of 2 touching suits
...Pass, forcing, responder bids with a 5 bagger else redoubles and the 2NT bidder bids the lower of nontouching.
Something like, more or less:
...XX = I have a 5 bagger
...3X = lowest of 2 touching suits
...Pass, forcing, responder bids with a 5 bagger else redoubles and the 2NT bidder bids the lower of nontouching.
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Posted 2005-October-22, 12:06
I pass.
But previous post said something very good about using runouts here. I will have to take closer look at this.
GBB
But previous post said something very good about using runouts here. I will have to take closer look at this.
GBB
“If there is dissatisfaction with the status quo, good. If there is ferment,
so much the better. If there is restlessness, I am pleased. Then let there
be ideas, and hard thought, and hard work.”
so much the better. If there is restlessness, I am pleased. Then let there
be ideas, and hard thought, and hard work.”
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Posted 2005-October-22, 17:33
Our bidder ran to 3♥ which was doubled for 500. Any action other than pass leads to 500 or worse. A bit unlucky I admit. Your RHO (me) has a good hand but no good fit, so was just waiting to pounce. Sometimes preempts work.
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Posted 2005-October-23, 17:14
3♥ to me, didn't even think of 2NT actually.
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Posted 2005-October-24, 06:12
Even knowing the result would never let me pass.
I had bid 3 ♥, but after this posting, I am more or less convinced, that 2 NT is the better bid, (16-18).
Good pres sometimes work
I had bid 3 ♥, but after this posting, I am more or less convinced, that 2 NT is the better bid, (16-18).
Good pres sometimes work
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Sanity Check: Failure (Fluffy)
More system is not the answer...
Roland
Sanity Check: Failure (Fluffy)
More system is not the answer...
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Posted 2005-October-24, 17:49
2N, it is the most descriptive bid. and after E double, I would not run. Let pard decide: I have my bid, and my hearts are nothing to write home about.
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