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Bidding after Opponent's Preempt Six shots or only five? DO FEEL LUCKY?
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Posted 2005-October-16, 00:03
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Posted 2005-October-16, 02:27
pass...best way I know to miss a laydown grand. We could make 7, we could have no game...I don't know. Having only 3 hearts stops me from bidding, but anything could be right. It certainly feels wrong passing with about 9 points extra.
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Posted 2005-October-16, 03:59
5H.
This should be safe and gets partner
involved. Just ask him, if he has something
to spare, and maybe he will tell you.
With kind regards
Marlowe
This should be safe and gets partner
involved. Just ask him, if he has something
to spare, and maybe he will tell you.
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
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Posted 2005-October-16, 04:11
4NT, but that's because we play 4♠ as kickback RKC...
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Posted 2005-October-16, 08:59
4♠, I have to make a try. Sometimes these preempts just work. But I have to try. Maybe pd has a second suit 
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Posted 2005-October-16, 10:23
Very hard. I will pass but think it is very close. I will play partner to have:
xxx=KTxxx=xxx=xx
xxx=KTxxx=xxx=xx
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Posted 2005-October-16, 11:55
I vote for 4S.
I actually considered 5NT, pick a slam, but since that wasn't one of the options it must be a bad idea.
Pass could easily be right but seems too pessimistic.
I actually considered 5NT, pick a slam, but since that wasn't one of the options it must be a bad idea
.Pass could easily be right but seems too pessimistic.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2005-October-16, 12:51
i guess i'm either overly optimistic or judgment impaired (or both), cause i'd bid 4NT RKC
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Posted 2005-October-16, 14:49
Given that at this vul the preemptor rates to have some values, estimated around 7-9 hcp, that leaves only about 8 unaccounted for points which expectancy would find divided 4/4. Think here you have to go with the averages and pass - either real right or real wrong but in the long run probably best.
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Posted 2005-October-16, 19:03
4 spades but with no guarantees
could be slam hand, could have just gone from a plus to a minus.
catch 22: I'm either going to hear my P ask why I bid so much when P promised nothing, or will hear "how can you pass 4H with that moose?"
could be slam hand, could have just gone from a plus to a minus.
catch 22: I'm either going to hear my P ask why I bid so much when P promised nothing, or will hear "how can you pass 4H with that moose?"
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Posted 2005-October-16, 19:26
jdeegan, on Oct 16 2005, 01:03 AM, said:
Your bid?
High stake. 4♠..... unsure somehow, but happy to know 80% players keep bidding, no need to worry too much.
How about 5♣? I don't know how would pd take it. He might make a talent guess on my super hand, but that would be a VWDP definitely.
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Posted 2005-October-16, 21:31
Thank all of you for your input. It confirms that bidding on is a narrow choice. As partner, I held:Q3
K9876
876
K109
and bid 6♥. The auction then turned comical when partner raised to 7♥. Down one.
By the way, the board was halved when the opponents declared six♣ down one. Do you see how to play 6♣ to make? You hold the big hand, and a spade is led.
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Posted 2005-October-17, 03:30
Hannie, on Oct 16 2005, 05:55 PM, said:
I vote for 4S.
I actually considered 5NT, pick a slam, but since that wasn't one of the options it must be a bad idea.
Pass could easily be right but seems too pessimistic.
I actually considered 5NT, pick a slam, but since that wasn't one of the options it must be a bad idea
.Pass could easily be right but seems too pessimistic.
I would take 5NT as GSF actually.
With this hand I am tempted to pass but feel too strong, might bid 4♠ on a good day.
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Posted 2005-October-17, 05:13
So many chances for a mix-up
4♠: can be taken as heart cue by pard. Not what we want because our fit for hearts is not ideal.
4NT: that should be RKCB for hearts. Possible, though not ideal. And if pard takes it "for the minors"...
5♣/5♦: who knows what pard will make of this.
5♥: can be taken as ask for spade control or ask for good trumps. Definitely a no-no.
5♠: oh-oh.. voidwood for hearts or pick-a-slam with 3-suiter?
5NT: pick-a-slam or grand slam try?
6♣: a shot, since pard will pass most of the time.
Better have all these meanings settled down if your partnership is steady. Opposite a casual player I'd probably try 5NT, intended as pick-a-slam and hoping pard'll understand I could have asked for his trumps with 4NT.
4♠: can be taken as heart cue by pard. Not what we want because our fit for hearts is not ideal.
4NT: that should be RKCB for hearts. Possible, though not ideal. And if pard takes it "for the minors"...
5♣/5♦: who knows what pard will make of this.
5♥: can be taken as ask for spade control or ask for good trumps. Definitely a no-no.
5♠: oh-oh.. voidwood for hearts or pick-a-slam with 3-suiter?
5NT: pick-a-slam or grand slam try?
6♣: a shot, since pard will pass most of the time.
Better have all these meanings settled down if your partnership is steady. Opposite a casual player I'd probably try 5NT, intended as pick-a-slam and hoping pard'll understand I could have asked for his trumps with 4NT.
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