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Can you get to this grand? Matchpoint hell
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Posted 2005-October-15, 07:06
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Posted 2005-October-15, 07:13
1♠ (3♣) 4♣ (5♣) 5♦ (pass, I assume) 5♥ (pass) 5NT seems a good start, but I'm not sure that I'd actually push beyond the 6 level.
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Posted 2005-October-15, 07:32
4NT, you want to play in slam, no fooling around and start finding out what you need to know.
And nice way to find out if pd kept up with his Dopi-Ropi.
After his pass of 5♣ you bid 5♦ asking for trump Q. He bids 5♥, showing the Q and ♥ K and you bid 5 NT asking for any extra Kings. And he shows you the ♣ K and you bid 6♦ letting pd know that with ♦ K or shortness you want to play grand. And he bids it.
GBB
And nice way to find out if pd kept up with his Dopi-Ropi.
After his pass of 5♣ you bid 5♦ asking for trump Q. He bids 5♥, showing the Q and ♥ K and you bid 5 NT asking for any extra Kings. And he shows you the ♣ K and you bid 6♦ letting pd know that with ♦ K or shortness you want to play grand. And he bids it.
GBB
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so much the better. If there is restlessness, I am pleased. Then let there
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so much the better. If there is restlessness, I am pleased. Then let there
be ideas, and hard thought, and hard work.”
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Posted 2005-October-15, 07:38
I think you've got the wrong hands bidding.
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Posted 2005-October-15, 07:39
Trpltrbl, on Oct 15 2005, 08:32 AM, said:
4NT, you want to play in slam, no fooling around and start finding out what you need to know.
And nice way to find out if pd kept up with his Dopi-Ropi.
After his pass of 5♣ you bid 5♦ asking for trump Q. He bids 5♥, showing the Q and ♥ K and you bid 5 NT asking for any extra Kings. And he shows you the ♣ K and you bid 6♦ letting pd know that with ♦ K or shortness you want to play grand. And he bids it.
GBB
And nice way to find out if pd kept up with his Dopi-Ropi.
After his pass of 5♣ you bid 5♦ asking for trump Q. He bids 5♥, showing the Q and ♥ K and you bid 5 NT asking for any extra Kings. And he shows you the ♣ K and you bid 6♦ letting pd know that with ♦ K or shortness you want to play grand. And he bids it.
GBB
Do you really want to play slam opposite:
Axxxx
AQx
Kxx
xx
????
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Posted 2005-October-15, 07:42
Blofeld, on Oct 15 2005, 08:38 AM, said:
I think you've got the wrong hands bidding.
Yup. I did, sorry.
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so much the better. If there is restlessness, I am pleased. Then let there
be ideas, and hard thought, and hard work.”
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Posted 2005-October-15, 08:06
4♦, splinter.
But I think it's going to be hard for pd to make a grandslam try, since I need all specific cards and don't think there is time to find them all out.
GBB
But I think it's going to be hard for pd to make a grandslam try, since I need all specific cards and don't think there is time to find them all out.
GBB
“If there is dissatisfaction with the status quo, good. If there is ferment,
so much the better. If there is restlessness, I am pleased. Then let there
be ideas, and hard thought, and hard work.”
so much the better. If there is restlessness, I am pleased. Then let there
be ideas, and hard thought, and hard work.”
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Posted 2005-October-15, 08:34
Winstonm, on Oct 16 2005, 02:06 AM, said:
Scoring: MP
1♠3♣?
South opens 1S. West bids 3C. Over anything that North bids at the 4 level, East will bid 5C. Can you get to the grand?
1♠3♣?
South opens 1S. West bids 3C. Over anything that North bids at the 4 level, East will bid 5C. Can you get to the grand?
I don't think there is a "scientific" way to bid the GS BUT I will bid 6♠over the 3♣ prempt
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Posted 2005-October-15, 08:45
Well bearmum's method will get you there (how can south, with four aces, not raise to seven?), but I don't like the 6♠ bid as could easily be off two cashing aces, or making seven.
I accept that north, holding second round controls everywhere, could launch into Blackwood (better than 6♠ direct, IMO), but this seems non-ideal.
I'm also not a huge fan of the 4♦ splinter with the this hand, as partner may well undervalue his ♦K.
I accept that north, holding second round controls everywhere, could launch into Blackwood (better than 6♠ direct, IMO), but this seems non-ideal.
I'm also not a huge fan of the 4♦ splinter with the this hand, as partner may well undervalue his ♦K.
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Posted 2005-October-15, 09:44
I think that 4C is the only possibility for the first bid. I play 4D as a support jump shift, so splinter is out. Over 5C it gets very hard. Some play that 5NT is still RKC in auctions like this, that might help.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2005-October-15, 09:50
1S 3C 4C 5C
Pass Pass X pass
5D pass 5H pass
6C pass 6D pass
7S
not at all clear, but I do like a pass over 5C with the south hand. Pass+pull=strong plus if partner doesn't X you'd really like to here what he bids.
Pass Pass X pass
5D pass 5H pass
6C pass 6D pass
7S
not at all clear, but I do like a pass over 5C with the south hand. Pass+pull=strong plus if partner doesn't X you'd really like to here what he bids.
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Posted 2005-October-15, 12:44
4nt=rkc
P=1-4
5d=Queen ask
5h=Q of trump and K of H
5nt=grand slam try
6c=K of clubs but you might just bid 7 spades now.
6d=grand slam try
7 spades, North has stiff D and extra spade length.
P=1-4
5d=Queen ask
5h=Q of trump and K of H
5nt=grand slam try
6c=K of clubs but you might just bid 7 spades now.
6d=grand slam try
7 spades, North has stiff D and extra spade length.
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Posted 2005-October-15, 17:31
I like the suggestion of the pass over 5♣. That certainly helps matters.
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Posted 2005-October-17, 03:47
Blofeld, on Oct 15 2005, 01:13 PM, said:
1♠ (3♣) 4♣ (5♣) 5♦ (pass, I assume) 5♥ (pass) 5NT seems a good start, but I'm not sure that I'd actually push beyond the 6 level.
This is exactly what I though
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1♠3♣?
South opens 1S. West bids 3C. Over anything that North bids at the 4 level, East will bid 5C. Can you get to the grand?