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Posted 2005-October-06, 13:32

OK, trickery is allowed and they wont pass. I again ask: WHAT DO YOU GAIN? You may have played rubber bridge for a living when the dinosaurs ruled, fine, but I still like to gain something if I operate.
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Posted 2005-October-06, 13:44

Jlall, on Oct 6 2005, 02:32 PM, said:

OK, trickery is allowed and they wont pass. I again ask: WHAT DO YOU GAIN? You may have played rubber bridge for a living when the dinosaurs ruled, fine, but I still like to gain something if I operate.

I ain't that old.
What you gain is that they don't expect that kinda hand. Like you said who would open that kinda hand with a pass?
Probably nobody, so I would possibly.
Expect the unexpected...

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Posted 2005-October-06, 15:23

Partner wont expect this hand either. Opening with a pass and responding with a pass are MUCH different. There's no reason to believe this is not your hand opposite a partner who opens, and that you will need to conduct an intelligent auction to determine what level to play at. Passing kills any chance of doing that, at significant risk and seemingly (to me) no gain. Sure you trick them, but how will that help?
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Posted 2005-October-06, 15:45

As you can never describe an 8 card suit, you can never really convince pard you hold a 10 bagger either, even if you try to construct a constructive auction. I guess the best thing I can hope to hear is a 1N rebid by pard, whereby I can make a 3♠ xyz rebid. Over 2 of a minor, I have a problem with this hand not playing NSI.

After playing through some scenarios in my head, at the table, I might just trot out 6♠ directly. Its not a bad shot. :lol:

Start with 1♠, but I have a sneaking respect for a pass at rubber bridge (but only rubber bridge), especially if the opps have a leg on. Further, by masterminded hands like this, you will sometimes gain info that you normally wouldn't find.
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Posted 2005-October-06, 16:03

I bid 1S and listen.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2005-October-06, 16:38

Now I will tell you what I did because it's a fun story. My first thought was 1♠, but this was 3/4 of the way through what had been the strangest night of bridge I'd ever seen. I'd already made 3 doubled contracts been dealt several strange hands etc etc. So the little guy on my left shoulder said "If you don't bid it up they're going to find a good sac." I decided he was right so I reached into the box and started to grab four spades but just as I was grabbing it the little guy on my other shoulder said "You're about to miss a slam moron!!!". Well, I don't normally make mistakes like reaching for the box too early but I'd done it this time. I like to think I'm an ethical player, so I know I've got to grab a bid fast and try not to give any UI. So I whip out 4nt. This is key card in diamonds by our agreements. She answers 5♦, which I'm assuming is 3. I flop down the 6♠ card and partner thinks for a minute before raising me to 7. It turns out she's got 20hcp and a small singleton spade. I take the first trick in her hand and lead her spade, and RHO shows out. Oh well, it was fun trying. The very next hand - we bid 6♠ and made 7 - of course.
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Posted 2005-October-06, 20:46

bid 1♠ by now, mayeb partner raises :)
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  Posted 2005-October-07, 03:53

Yes I agree with Fluffy ... if partner can't find spade support in his hand, are we really sure that we want to play in spades?
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Posted 2005-October-07, 04:41

Reminds me of one of my students (an elderly lady) many years ago. This is a true story. She held:

Ax
AKQJ10xxxx
x
x

Heard her partner open 1♣, and she responded 1♥ (well done!). Partner rebid 2♣, and now she ........

PASSED!!!

1♣ - 1♥
2♣ - pass!!??

After she tabled dummy, her partner gave it a close look. She was visibly in shock, with all the nice hearts almost landing on her lap, and stuttered:

"Butttttt Inger, whyyyyy didn't youuuuu rebiddd your hhhhhhearts"?????
"Well, you didn't support them, did you", was Inger's laconic reply.

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