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Can this hand be made? This beginner hasn't found a way.
Using Fred Gitelman's SAYC tutorial for beginners.
This hand seems to me a "text book" preempt response (6-10 pts, long trump support, void or singleton).
Bidding: South as dealer
1H (P) 4H (All Pass)
North
7 2
K 10 9 5 4
7
J 10 8 6 2
West East
Q 6 5 3 A K 9 8
J 7 2
K 9 6 3 2 A J 8 5 4
A 7 9 5 4
South
J 10 4
A Q 8 6 3
Q 10
K Q 3
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Beginner asks: Can this hand be made
#2 Guest_Jlall_*
Posted 2005-October-01, 21:00
No it can't, youre off 2 spades, 1 club and 1 diamond. EW can make FIVE spades though 
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Posted 2005-October-01, 21:07
4H doesn't make but the 4H bidder did well - as Justin pointed out the opposition have a spade game they didn't find - one of the reasons to make this preemptive bid - make it hard for the opposition to know the correct thing to do.
Winston
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Posted 2005-October-02, 04:18
The hand can't be made unless the defense doesn't take one of their spade or diamond tricks, if not at least the diamond losers will go away on the clubs.
Against good defenders this is unlikely to happen because they will signal effectively (however I have seen many stranger things happen than defenders helping to make an impossible game
).
The reason for the preemptive bid is two-fold, one is that with a different distribution of the cards between you and partner a game may be cold.
The second reason as Justin pointed out is that you can jam the opponents auction where they do not find their cold spade game and in this case even escape undoubled. -50 or -100 is much better than -450 or -650 in this case depending on vulnerability.
Because you have limited high card points (6-10) and a good trump fit (at least 4 cards, VERY IMPORTANT), you can do this because your trump length will protect you from large penalties. Your partner should not bid on unless he has a mountain of a hand (probably just short of a 2 club opening).
Theo
Against good defenders this is unlikely to happen because they will signal effectively (however I have seen many stranger things happen than defenders helping to make an impossible game
).The reason for the preemptive bid is two-fold, one is that with a different distribution of the cards between you and partner a game may be cold.
The second reason as Justin pointed out is that you can jam the opponents auction where they do not find their cold spade game and in this case even escape undoubled. -50 or -100 is much better than -450 or -650 in this case depending on vulnerability.
Because you have limited high card points (6-10) and a good trump fit (at least 4 cards, VERY IMPORTANT), you can do this because your trump length will protect you from large penalties. Your partner should not bid on unless he has a mountain of a hand (probably just short of a 2 club opening).
Theo
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Posted 2005-October-02, 10:28
Oops....sorry for my poor formatting....I'll have to take time from Bridge study to studying posting hands, I'm afraid.
And thanks for the responses....
Sue in Virginia
And thanks for the responses....
Sue in Virginia
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