[pigpenz]

Scoring: IMP

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Auction:
1NT 2♦ pass 2♥
pass 2NT pass ?


# 2♦=majors
# 2NT not defined



YOUR CALL

[pbleighton]

4H. Pd must have a BIG hand, and he knows you can't have much.

Peter

[pigpenz]

yes thats what i thought they parnter must be showing a 5422 hand with 15+ hcp hand.

[iggygork]

Given that I am going to game (as did everyone else so far), I am going to bid 3♠ to offer a choice of games. I am hoping that 2NT was not "opps, I forgot."

[Al_U_Card]

Since a splinter in D is too bizarre, even if he has the rest of the deck, perhaps a 3C bid might help him if he wants to make more noise before settling back in game. I don't think that this could be construed as a q-bid, but only as a real suit. The only issue is if the suit quality is sufficient to be mentioning it since the opps have a lot of D cards staring at them.

[Al_U_Card]

Jlall, on Sep 27 2005, 01:20 PM, said:

couldn't it be a real suit and non forcing? IE 2236?

Interesting thought, but pard knows that I likely have more (or better) H than S so, at worst, he would return to 3H which I would expect to pass.....(his 2NT must be showing a hand that is inviting game, and I didn't return quietly to 3H)

[Al_U_Card]

Jlall, on Sep 27 2005, 01:33 PM, said:

so with 5422 opp 2236 you have to play 3H?

He's the guy that bid 2D and then 2NT asking for (trouble? ) I'm just trying to help out a guy that might be 5-6-2-0 or whatever and has made a move, which he is free to pass but he knows I prefer hearts.

[Al_U_Card]

Jlall, on Sep 27 2005, 02:27 PM, said:

with 5620 I think he should probably bid 3/4H, not 2N.

My devinatory powers being what they are, I'll stick to describing my hand as best I can given that if it was Fluffy, I would know that 2NT was forcing showing extras..... (darn, wrong context! )

[Al_U_Card]

Sounds like a sensible approach and since you postulated a 5422 hand for him, what's he looking for exactly?

[awm]

I'd imagine partner has something like:

AKxxx
KQJx
Ax
xx

He needs to know two things:

(1) Do you have a real fit? 2♥ could be on three or even two cards after all.

(2) Can your hand contribute something like 1.5 tricks to making a game?

With the example hand the answer is "yes" to both so 4♥ is the call.

[mikestar]

4♥--game should have a fair play but in practice partner can't have enough for slam to be worth investigating, so there is no point in bidding clubs or showing the diamond splinter. 3♠ choice of games might be right on a different type of hand, but with the diamond stiff, I want to have four trumps.

[inquiry]

"Crapelletti bidding problem?"...

Get use to it.

[awm]

inquiry, on Sep 27 2005, 11:55 PM, said:

"Crapelletti bidding problem?"...

Get use to it.

While I'm not a fan of cappelletti either, I don't think this "problem" hand has anything to do with the methods. In fact a strong major two suiter is easier to bid in capp than it would be in the popular Meckwell defense (where you double, then don't particularly want to bid 2♥ majors over 2♣ because partner is likely to pass). Playing something like Woolsey or Meyerson, you will have:

1NT-2♣ (majors) - Pass - 2♥
Pass - 2NT...

Basically the same auction and the same problem, although overcaller perhaps has the additional information that advancer's hearts are actually longer than spades (and not equal length).

[zasanya]

awm, on Sep 28 2005, 12:06 AM, said:

..... although overcaller perhaps has the additional information that advancer's hearts are actually longer than spades (and not equal length)......

Forgive my novice question but with ♠ 2-3-4 and ♥ J 10 9 what is the reply to cappelletti?

[mr1303]

Hmmm, isn't the hand suggested by AWM a penalty double of 1NT?

I would bid 2H holding JT9 in hearts, and 432 of spades.