Just imagine last board in a tourney. A player, who wasn't going to win anyway, probbably got angry on his partner's bidding and bids 7 spade redoubled. The result is -4.
I got messages from other players that they feel bad because they got -5 imps instead of ave. What can I do with it? Ban the player? Change the result to something more realistic like 6sx-3? Don't do anything at all?
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#2
Posted 2005-September-25, 19:47
That's happened to me once or twice (i.e. opps deliberately bid ridiculously, 7NT doubled by us redoubled by opponent). After my call, TD adjusted to ave+ for us, and either kicked out the "guilty" opponent (forcing p to get a sub) or kicked out both (I think one player bid 7NT, the other redoubled...), and added to future exclusion list (banned). Seems fair to me.
#3
Posted 2005-September-25, 19:51
DelfinoD, on Sep 25 2005, 07:44 PM, said:
Just imagine last board in a tourney. A player, who wasn't going to win anyway, probbably got angry on his partner's bidding and bids 7 spade redoubled. The result is -4.
I got messages from other players that they feel bad because they got -5 imps instead of ave. What can I do with it? Ban the player? Change the result to something more realistic like 6sx-3? Don't do anything at all?
I got messages from other players that they feel bad because they got -5 imps instead of ave. What can I do with it? Ban the player? Change the result to something more realistic like 6sx-3? Don't do anything at all?
Your word "probably" bothers me.
If you know the bid was based on disruption rather than bridge, you should adjust the score.
If you can demonstrate that the bid was improper for such a reason, for example, an opening 7S with 12 HCP and 5 spades, then adjust.
If you are just assuming/guessing, then you really can't adjust it, because it could be a legitimate auction that got out of hand, misunderstood, or whatever.
The Laws say that when a board cannot be played normally through no fault of the players (as is the case with the opponents if you decide the bid is improper), then they get A+.
Deliberately or improperly bidding a board for the purpose of going down, or to annoy your partner is unethical and should be reported to Abuse@....
So if you decide to adjust, the correct adjustment would be A+ for the opponents and 0 for the offenders, plus an ethics committee. However, the BBO software does not allow that, so all you can do is A+-, giving the non-offending side A+ and the offenders A-.
#4 Guest_Jlall_*
Posted 2005-September-25, 23:44
Agree A+, 0. If not possible A+/A-. Bar this player, report to abuse@. This is not a legal thing to do.
#5
Posted 2005-September-26, 13:24
Careful, though; I had a case two weeks ago:
Good but not "down-the-middle" player doesn't notice LHO's 1H opener, sees partner's 2C bid and pushes to the grand, and redoubles when it comes around. -3, clear zero, were they playing games? No, he just was blind in the auction.
Do you adjust "to protect the field?" Of course not. Yeah, if people are playing games, I'd throw the board out - if the scoring allowed, I'd give 100%/0 and not score it in the field.
Michael.
Good but not "down-the-middle" player doesn't notice LHO's 1H opener, sees partner's 2C bid and pushes to the grand, and redoubles when it comes around. -3, clear zero, were they playing games? No, he just was blind in the auction.
Do you adjust "to protect the field?" Of course not. Yeah, if people are playing games, I'd throw the board out - if the scoring allowed, I'd give 100%/0 and not score it in the field.
Michael.
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