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Posted 2003-September-13, 04:58

As dealer, you hold:
S; AKXXX
H: AKT9XX
D: X
C: X

Play SAYC, you open 1H, LHO came in with 4D, PD dbl, neg., what do you bid now?
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Posted 2003-September-13, 05:21

That's a problem I don't have in my system, I open 3C with that ;D

Anyway, you can do several things: bid game and make slam, bid slam and go -1 because you miss 2 aces, bid slam and make +1,... Imo 4NT is RKC S, and then you should bid 5S, 6S or 7S according to the number of aces. If you want you can ask about SQ to have a bit more certitude. You don't need any kings, just aces and maybe HQ or SQ.

4NT is my bid.
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Posted 2003-September-13, 14:09

Sorry to set the context. Both Vul., and IMP pairs. There are three bids i can think of:
a) 4N
:) 5S
c) 5D

which one will you choose?
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Posted 2003-September-13, 15:04

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Sorry to set the context. Both Vul., and IMP pairs. There are three bids i can think of:
a) 4N
:) 5S
c) 5D

which one will you choose?


Oh dear, my instant reaction was 6S but your options suggest that this will not be successful.

4NT, probably normal Blackwood in this auction (why RKC for spades?) is probably sounder, and I believe that 5D and 5S just create problems for partner that he can never solve.
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Posted 2003-September-13, 16:13

4N Blackwood, followed by the requisite number of S.
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Posted 2003-September-13, 16:25

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Sorry to set the context. Both Vul., and IMP pairs. There are three bids i can think of:
a) 4N
B) 5S
c) 5D

which one will you choose?


Oh dear, my instant reaction was 6S but your options suggest that this will not be successful.

4NT, probably normal Blackwood in this auction (why RKC for spades?) is probably sounder, and I believe that 5D and 5S just create problems for partner that he can never solve.


Lol, I didnot list 6S here because I didnot consider it when I bid it:) Doesnt mean it willnt be successful.
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Posted 2003-September-13, 20:15

Hi, friend!
4NT=BW
5DI= exp BW with void in DI
5SP= Lackwood - deny control in DI - answer to BW if you have control in DI
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Posted 2003-September-14, 02:58

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4NT, probably normal Blackwood in this auction (why RKC for spades?).


Yes indeed, normally it's normal blackwood, but some pairs can play this as RKC S because dbl shows S and might be considered as a fit... In my system it is actually normal blackwood, I was confused :B)
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Posted 2003-September-15, 01:25

I like to play that that 4NT is always RKC with 1430 ( or vice-cersa) responses.
If we have agreed no suit, we still respond in RKC steps.
So, if there is ambiguity about whether or not a suit has been agreed, we end up stumbling on our feet a very high percentage of the time.

That agreement would be useful here.
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