[whereagles]

If this is a casual partnership, 2S.

I have bad experience letting this sort of thing rest in 1NT. Especially vulnerable. Unless opps aren't too gifted in defense, I definitely would try 2S.

[Wiste1]

If 1NT rebid promise a balanced hand and 2-3♠ (forget 3♠if u want) isnt it better playing 2♠ with 5-2 fit than 1NT ??
With stronger hands it could be different but i would allways choise 5-2 fit instead of 1NT.

I understand why people pass if 1NT not promise a balanced hand, but thats not my style.

[Fluffy]

There is a bid difference between opening 1NT with singleton, and rebidding 1NT on partner's singleton, when you rebid 1NT you are voluntarily lieying to your partner who won't clarify your hand ever.

There is also a big difference between playing 2M in a 5-2 fit, than on a 2-5 fit, the weak hand doesn't have entries to stablish its suit, the strong one does.

[Al_U_Card]

pigpenz, on Sep 15 2005, 09:07 PM, said:

i would pass 1nt and then i can consider something if the opps balance at 2♥

I AM old-fashioned but my memory is good for the times that I ate -200 in 1NT when we had only a 5-2 fit but it was just going for 1 down.......be that as it may, I am curious about how balancing actions would lead you to change your mind? Now that they appear to have H equally split and S are likely 4-2 or worse (why you passed 1NT in the 1st place) you will now go to the inferior contract?

Justin gave his reasons for the pass, which I will use in the future when applicable.

[SoTired]

pass - 1N is more likely to make than 2S. I will pass again if opps come in with 2H. Yes there are hands where 1N is -2 and 2S is -1, but I think there are more the other way around. 2D is not on the horizon.

[the hog]

Wiste1, on Sep 16 2005, 10:32 PM, said:

If 1NT rebid promise a balanced hand and 2-3♠ (forget 3♠if u want) isnt it better playing 2♠ with 5-2 fit than 1NT ??
With stronger hands it could be different but i would allways choise 5-2 fit instead of 1NT.

I understand why people pass if 1NT not promise a balanced hand, but thats not my style.

To put it in words of one syllable. "No! its not". Your S are too weak and you have scattered values. The 2S bidders deserve to run into a hefty penalty finding a S stack offside.

[Fluffy]

The_Hog, on Sep 17 2005, 12:19 AM, said:

Wiste1, on Sep 16 2005, 10:32 PM, said:

If 1NT rebid promise a balanced hand and 2-3♠ (forget 3♠if u want) isnt it better playing 2♠ with 5-2 fit than 1NT ??
With stronger hands it could be different but i would allways choise 5-2 fit instead of 1NT.

I understand why people pass if 1NT not promise a balanced hand, but thats not my style.

To put it in words of one syllable. "No! its not". Your S are too weak and you have scattered values. The 2S bidders deserve to run into a hefty penalty finding a S stack offside.

I systematically bid 2M with 5 cards and am still waiting to find big penalty on this contract.

[the hog]

Fluffy, on Sep 18 2005, 09:45 PM, said:

The_Hog, on Sep 17 2005, 12:19 AM, said:

Wiste1, on Sep 16 2005, 10:32 PM, said:

If 1NT rebid promise a balanced hand and 2-3♠ (forget 3♠if u want) isnt it better playing 2♠ with 5-2 fit than 1NT ??
With stronger hands it could be different but i would allways choise 5-2 fit instead of 1NT.

I understand why people pass if 1NT not promise a balanced hand, but thats not my style.

To put it in words of one syllable. "No! its not". Your S are too weak and you have scattered values. The 2S bidders deserve to run into a hefty penalty finding a S stack offside.

I systematically bid 2M with 5 cards and am still waiting to find big penalty on this contract.

"Just you wait 'enry Higgins, just you wait"

Lerner and Lowe. My Fair Lady.

You clearly don't play enough tuff guys!

[skorchev]

2♠ is the bid, no matter if I have agreed to fit 1♠ with 3 good cards. I still can't believe how there are such a players who say PASS, and don't think about the 2♠? Even 2♦ looks better than 1NT.

Stefan Skorchev

[han]

I think that anybody who thinks that there is a right question to this question is absolutely wrong. If you very frequently raise on 3-card support and often rebid 1NT on a stiff you hardly can correct to 2S here. If you rarely raise on 3, and never rebid 1NT with a stiff, 2S has to be the right call imo. It is unlikely that your spade suit is going to be of much use in 1NT unless partner has 3-card support.

This hand was given in a play problem (bidding 1D-1S-1NT). With nice play 1NT could be made, 2S was cold.

[the hog]

skorchev, on Sep 19 2005, 12:40 AM, said:

2♠ is the bid, no matter if I have agreed to fit 1♠ with 3 good cards. I still can't believe how there are such a players who say PASS, and don't think about the 2♠? Even 2♦ looks better than 1NT.

Stefan Skorchev

You can't believe there are such players who say "pass"; well we are at least in some agreement. I can't believe there are players who post in this particular forum who bid so badly with 2S.

[skorchev]

The_Hog, on Sep 18 2005, 05:48 PM, said:

skorchev, on Sep 19 2005, 12:40 AM, said:

2♠ is the bid, no matter if I have agreed to fit 1♠ with 3 good cards. I still can't believe how there are such a players who say PASS, and don't think about the 2♠?  Even 2♦ looks better than 1NT.

Stefan Skorchev

You can't believe there are such players who say "pass"; well we are at least in some agreement. I can't believe there are players who post in this particular forum who bid so badly with 2S.

I said that I can't believe there are players who bid automatically PASS, w/o any thinking! (No offence intended!)

Skorchev