vg|VG1-2018WYBTC,J-RR16,I,1,14,USA 1,0,POLAND,0| rs|4SW=,3SW+2,4HN=,4HN-1,4HS-2,4HS-3,2SE+2,4SE=,6DS=,6NN-1,2HN-1,2HN-1,2CNx-1,2SW+1,4SE=,4SW=,3DE=,1SE+3,6CS-1,6CS=,3HE+1,4HE-1,3NN-1,4SN-3,5CE-1,3NE=,4SS=,4SS+1| pn|KRIEGEL,MARCINOWSK,GROSSACK,MAJCHER,SOBCZAK,JOLLY,CHODACKI,KAPLAN|pg|| qx|o1|st||md|3SJ8HK92DKQ642CQ93,SAK9765HT8DJCA754,S42HA53DAT987C862,SQT3HQJ764D53CKJT|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D!|mb|1S|mb|2S!|an|Good !s raise|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|poohbear: 2@s is a good @d raise|pg|| mb|4S|nt|vugrapho1: Hiya Barry|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|poohbear: Hi Bas|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|s8|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|poohbear: This will help but declarer still doesnt have a claim . Needs to deal with the 4th @c|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|hA|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h8|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dJ|nt|poohbear: since trumps AND @cs both break it is easy but if that wasnt the case declarer would need to set up a heart trick|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c1|st||md|3SJ8HK92DKQ642CQ93,SAK9765HT8DJCA754,S42HA53DAT987C862,SQT3HQJ764D53CKJT|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1S|mb|3D!|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|hT|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|s8|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|hA|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d5|pc|d6|pc|s6|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o2|st||md|4S3HT642DJ98CAKJ86,S84HKQ85DKT542C93,SAKJ752HAJ97D3C74,SQT96H3DAQ76CQT52|sv|n|nt|poohbear: and would do that before playing @cs|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|4H|nt|poohbear: the US will bid 4@hs here but the play is the thing|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c2|nt|poohbear: best defense would be @ds but East has a nat @c lrad|pg|| nt|poohbear: lead|pg|| nt|poohbear: He might have led trumps given his @s holding|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c7|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|h3|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s9|pc|d8|pc|s8|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sT|pc|hT|pc|c9|pg|| nt|poohbear: interesting . The @c pitch was designed to keep declarer from cashing a @c but Gib says that the best play now is a club|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|d6|pg|| pc|d2|nt|poohbear: now a @H comes|pg|| nt|poohbear: no|pg|| pc|h7|pc|dQ|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|h8|pg|| nt|poohbear: still need to foece West to keep control|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hA|nt|poohbear: the heart is now too late|pg|| pc|d7|pc|h4|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|h6|mc|10|pg|| qx|c2|st||md|4S3HT642DJ98CAKJ86,S84HKQ85DKT542C93,SAKJ752HAJ97D3C74,SQT96H3DAQ76CQT52|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c7|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|h3|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|h4|pc|s8|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|d6|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sT|pc|d8|pc|h8|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|c2|pc|hT|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|d9|pg|| pc|sQ|mc|9|pg|| qx|o3|st||md|1S4HQJT93DA8CT7632,SQT863H82DKQ73CK5,SK2HA75DJT954CJ94,SAJ975HK64D62CAQ8|sv|e|nt|poohbear: North scores the kig of @c and the heart in his hand for 10|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|poohbear: this blew EW right out of the water|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|dA|pg|| nt|poohbear: While it is important when u are short in the opps preempt suit to stretch to bid , West was just too weak|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hK|pg|| nt|poohbear: If West had a singleton heart then he can justify a 2@s overcall on a weak 5 card suit|pg|| nt|poohbear: or make a TO dbl|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|c9|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|s6|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c3|st||md|1S4HQJT93DA8CT7632,SQT863H82DKQ73CK5,SK2HA75DJT954CJ94,SAJ975HK64D62CAQ8|sv|e|mb|2H!|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s7|pc|h3|pc|sT|pc|s2|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c8|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c9|pc|cQ|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|s8|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d4|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h8|pc|h7|pc|hK|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o4|st||md|2SQJ4H94DK85CKJ864,S9862HAKJT6D932CT,ST7H8752DJTCAQ752,SAK53HQ3DAQ764C93|sv|b|nt|poohbear: For those wondering about the 5 card weak 2 bid , at this vul many shade their preempt length|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H!|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|poohbear: Borderline 3@s bid by west . Bad trumps often suggests underbidding|pg|| pc|c4|nt|poohbear: but wont work out well on this hand|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|c9|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d2|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sJ|pc|s6|pc|sT|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|poohbear: draw 2 rounds of trump leaving 1 out there|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h9|nt|poohbear: then runn hearts|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h7|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h5|pc|d4|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|dT|nt|poohbear: the defense cant cash 2@ds|pg|| pc|d6|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d9|mc|10|pg|| qx|c4|st||md|2SQJ4H94DK85CKJ864,S9862HAKJT6D932CT,ST7H8752DJTCAQ752,SAK53HQ3DAQ764C93|sv|b|mb|2H!|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c6|pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|dT|pc|dA|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sJ|pc|s6|pc|sT|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o5|st||md|3SKJ3HQ2DAKQJ86CK2,S8542H6DT73CAQT83,SAQ7HAKJ84D95CJ76,ST96HT9753D42C954|sv|n|nt|poohbear: its a decent game and one that I expect the Us to bid in the other room|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H!|an|5+!h|nt|poohbear: 6nt hand here. or 6@ds . Key is for South to be declarer so that the @c king is proteted|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|nt|poohbear: protected|pg|| mb|p|mb|3C!|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|nt|poohbear: I wonder what NS NT range is . Very unusual to see a US pair open a balanced 15 with a major|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|nt|poohbear: Kriegel opts to rebid in NT . In my opinion when you have a hand that will go past 3NT on power u should rebid the suit u think ought to be trump|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|nt|poohbear: now North is thinking it is a best game auction instead of a slam auction|pg|| mb|6D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugrapho1: NS indicating they were unsure about the auction, so 6@D was a practical bid|pg|| nt|poohbear: South kind of endplayed himself into that since 4NT was going to be ambiguous|pg|| nt|vugrapho1: 4@H was probably KC, and neither wanted to play in 3NT|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c9|pc|c2|pg|| nt|poohbear: i am sure 4@h was not KC|pg|| nt|vugrapho1: That's what Grossack said|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|d2|pg|| nt|poohbear: so i guess he knew it was a slam auction :)|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c5|st||md|3SKJ3HQ2DAKQJ86CK2,S8542H6DT73CAQT83,SAQ7HAKJ84D95CJ76,ST96HT9753D42C954|sv|n|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|6N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c5|pc|cK|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o6|st||md|4ST42HAK94DAT5CT96,SJ65H652DQJCKQJ82,SK73HQT73D642CA75,SAQ98HJ8DK9873C43|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|poohbear: 2@H promises 4 card support . With 3 card support opener would redbl|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|poohbear: not much to do on this hand but draw trumps and cash side tricks then wait for opps to play @ss|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|c7|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|s8|pc|c9|pg|| nt|poohbear: which is what declarer is doing|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d6|pc|d8|pc|d5|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|s2|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|c6|st||md|4ST42HAK94DAT5CT96,SJ65H652DQJCKQJ82,SK73HQT73D642CA75,SAQ98HJ8DK9873C43|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c4|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|c7|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c6|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|d9|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|s8|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|d8|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|s2|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dT|pc|c2|pc|d6|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pg|| pc|hT|pc|d7|pc|h9|pc|c8|pg|| pg|| qx|o7|st||md|1S92HKT8DA754C7632,SAQJ83H642DQT83C4,ST754HADJ962CKQT8,SK6HQJ9753DKCAJ95|sv|b|nt|poohbear: west needed to play J of spades to give declarer a guess|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|poohbear: Hey Bas do u know why there is no running scores for the kids KO ?|pg|| mb|1C|mb|1H|nt|vugrapho1: No idea, sorry|pg|| nt|vugrapho1: http://db.worldbridge.org/repository/tourn/suzhou.18/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/knockoutphaseconditstatMultievColours.asp?qtournid=1537&qphase=QF isn't correct?|pg|| mb|2C|mb|d|nt|poohbear: ty everyone|pg|| nt|poohbear: dbl is responsive ( takeout )|pg|| nt|poohbear: most people would bid 1NT with the south hand . I like 2@c |pg|| nt|poohbear: 3rd seat opener very likely to have @c length since he could open a strong 4 card major|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sK|pc|s2|nt|poohbear: interestingly on the slam hand they did open 1NT in the other room and after a @d transfer they wound up playing the slam with the @c king unprotected|pg|| nt|poohbear: there u needed to play in @Hs which was going to be a tuff achievement|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s9|pc|sJ|pc|s5|pg|| pc|d3|nt|poohbear: meantime here 2@c dbled . A very reasonable shot by East since it isnt game|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|h3|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dJ|pc|c5|pc|d5|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hT|pc|h6|pc|hA|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|c3|nt|poohbear: it will be mildly successful as it is going down 1 . Not the down 2 he was hoping for|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| pc|s7|pc|h7|pc|c6|pc|s8|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h2|nt|poohbear: I didnt see what happened in the @d suit|pg|| mc|7|nt|poohbear: i guess the @d were always 1 loser|pg|| nt|vugrapho1: W led small, 9 K A, then small from dummy, Q|pg|| pg|| qx|c7|st||md|1S92HKT8DA754C7632,SAQJ83H642DQT83C4,ST754HADJ962CKQT8,SK6HQJ9753DKCAJ95|sv|b|mb|p|mb|2S!|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c4|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s7|pc|c5|pc|h8|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sT|pc|h3|pc|d4|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|hT|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|h7|pg|| pc|d6|pc|c9|pc|d7|pc|d8|pg|| pc|h4|pc|c8|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o8|st||md|2SA87HK8DKT96CQJ64,ST42HAJTDA5CAK873,S6HQ97432DQJ73C95,SKQJ953H65D842CT2|sv|o|mb|1N|mb|2D!|an|1 Major|mb|3H!|an|!S, inv+|nt|poohbear: in the old days we would just bid 4@s with the East hand and we would go down 1 ALOT . These days we know to invite but often dont have an invitational bid :)|pg|| nt|poohbear: in comp we do|pg|| nt|poohbear: Many pairs play 1NT 2@h 2@s 3@s as forcing|pg|| nt|poohbear: in their own auction|pg|| mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4S|nt|poohbear: 4@c confirms @s and suggests a good hand for slam|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|poohbear: Obv East has no interest but they didnt transfer back with 4@h . Maybe they couldnt|pg|| nt|poohbear: king of hearts will prob be led then declarer will win and try for a @d ruff in dummy|pg|| nt|poohbear: the danger of drawing trumps is that u can lose both a second heart trick and the D ruff|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h6|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h9|pc|sQ|pc|d6|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|poohbear: ducking the first spade might have gotten declarer to go down|pg|| nt|poohbear: now he has no choice but to play @ds|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c3|pc|h2|pc|s5|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|sT|nt|poohbear: if South wins the @d and plays a trump declarer needs to cash 1 @c in dummt so he cant get locked in|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| pc|c7|nt|poohbear: or declarer can set up @cs :)|pg|| mc|10|nt|poohbear: he risked 5-1 @cs in that scenario|pg|| pg|| qx|c8|st||md|2SA87HK8DKT96CQJ64,ST42HAJTDA5CAK873,S6HQ97432DQJ73C95,SKQJ953H65D842CT2|sv|o|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|d5|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|s2|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d9|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c3|pc|h3|pc|s3|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dT|pc|sT|pc|d7|pg|| pc|c7|pc|h4|pc|s5|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|h7|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|h5|pg|| pc|c8|pc|dJ|pc|h6|pc|s8|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o9|st||md|3SQ84HQT983DK75CQ6,S973HK654D9CKT852,SJT5HAJ2DQJ8CJ974,SAK62H7DAT6432CA3|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|nt|poohbear: passing 2@s might have been more prudent with the west hand|pg|| mb|p|pc|hT|nt|poohbear: partner is not a favorite to have @cs since no TO bid |pg|| pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h7|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|s2|pc|h8|pg|| nt|poohbear: i wonder what the misunderstanding was that got North to win @h ace|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|h5|pc|d8|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|d3|pc|h3|pc|h6|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|c2|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|poohbear: making 3|pg|| mc|9|nt|poohbear: prob didnt cost as @ss were 3-3|pg|| pg|| qx|c9|st||md|3SQ84HQT983DK75CQ6,S973HK654D9CKT852,SJT5HAJ2DQJ8CJ974,SAK62H7DAT6432CA3|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c3|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|s3|pc|d8|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|s9|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|c5|pc|sT|pg|| pc|dT|pc|sQ|pc|h4|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h7|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o10|st||md|4SKHKT8DAQ82CAJ987,ST53HQJ954D3CT432,SAQ982HA72DJ6CK65,SJ764H63DKT9754CQ|sv|b|nt|vugrapho1: American disagreement about the lead of @HT, Grossack saying he doesn't understand why Kriegel led it, not having agreements|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|vugrapho1: Saying leading the T from that holding is unplayable|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D|nt|vugrapho1: And then laughing about it with Majcher because it didn't matter in his opinion|pg|| mb|p|mb|3C!|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|poohbear: Zach is 20 and has vast experience in these matters :)|pg|| nt|poohbear: 3@c is GF and natural|pg|| mb|4D!|an|KC !C|mb|p|mb|4N|an|2 w/o !CQ|nt|poohbear: 4@d KC for @cs|pg|| mb|p|mb|5N!|an|Choice of slams|mb|p|mb|6C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|poohbear: 4NT showed 2 KCs and no Q . 5NT offers different slams|pg|| nt|vugrapho1: That's exactly what Grossack just wrote down|pg|| nt|poohbear: since Kriegel has a decent @c suit that is an easy choice. He might need to ruff out the @s suit so NT might not play as well|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|poohbear: lots of ways to play this|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|hK|pg|| nt|poohbear: Kriegel will take his time. Count his tricks , Then decide on a line to get to 12 . |pg|| pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|s4|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| nt|poohbear: so he was hoping for 4-3 spades and then either bringing home the @c suit for 5 tricks or the @d finesse|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|poohbear: since it looks like clubs 4-1|pg|| pc|c3|pc|d6|pc|d4|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|d5|pc|c8|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cT|pc|c6|nt|poohbear: now he needs @ss to come home J10x or a @s @D sq |pg|| pc|d7|pg|| nt|poohbear: @h sq|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|s5|pc|s8|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|d9|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|d2|pc|sT|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s7|pc|d8|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h7|mc|11|pg|| qx|c10|st||md|4SKHKT8DAQ82CAJ987,ST53HQJ954D3CT432,SAQ982HA72DJ6CK65,SJ764H63DKT9754CQ|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5H|mb|p|mb|6C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| pc|d2|pc|c2|pc|d6|pc|d4|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|sK|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|d8|pc|s3|pc|c6|pc|d5|pg|| pc|cK|pc|d7|pc|c7|pc|c4|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|h4|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cT|pc|s8|mc|12|pg|| qx|o11|st||md|1SK4HK84DQ763CT984,SJ2HAJ95DK54CAKQ6,SAT9765HT7DA8CJ32,SQ83HQ632DJT92C75|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|sT|pc|s3|pg|| nt|poohbear: 1@c in the polish style is either a weak NT 12-14 or a medium hand with @cs or any 18 plus points|pg|| nt|poohbear: when West reopens he cant have the weak NT so its either medium in @cs with short spades or the 18 plus|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dJ|pc|d3|pc|d5|pg|| nt|poohbear: Zach leads the league in preemptive bids . He often sees them where no one else would :) |pg|| nt|poohbear: this hand he would get agreement|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h7|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|c4|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hT|pc|h2|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h9|mc|10|pg|| qx|c11|st||md|1SK4HK84DQ763CT984,SJ2HAJ95DK54CAKQ6,SAT9765HT7DA8CJ32,SQ83HQ632DJT92C75|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|s8|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sQ|pc|h4|pc|h5|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|c8|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pc|h2|pc|c9|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|hJ|pc|h7|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hT|pc|h6|pc|hK|pg|| pc|c6|pc|s6|pc|hQ|pc|cT|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|dA|pg|| pc|sT|pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|h9|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|d7|pg|| pc|d5|pc|s9|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pg|| pg|| qx|o12|st||md|2SKT62HK862DAK65CQ,SAQ85HT54D987CJ95,SJ73HJ9DQJT32CA43,S94HAQ73D4CKT8762|sv|n|nt|vugrapho1: Grossack didn't seem to pleased with the @D switch, and after the hand was over he was still shaking his head|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|d|mb|p|nt|poohbear: East taking a page from Zachs book|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|cJ|nt|poohbear: 3NT reasonable if scary with a topless 5 card suit and only one stopper but he has a reasonable chance to keep East off lead|pg|| pc|c4|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|d3|pc|d4|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|dT|pc|h3|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|dJ|pc|c2|pg|| nt|poohbear: he will prob go down by playing on @ss and not hearts|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|c7|pc|d6|pc|s5|pg|| pc|d2|nt|poohbear: evn @Hs doesnt bring him to 9 tricks|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|s8|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|hA|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|s7|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cA|pc|cT|pc|sT|pg|| pc|s3|pc|h7|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| pc|hT|pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|h6|pg|| pc|c5|pc|sJ|pc|cK|pc|h8|pg|| nt|vugrapho1: Majcher going to the bathroom|pg|| pg|| qx|c12|st||md|2SKT62HK862DAK65CQ,SAQ85HT54D987CJ95,SJ73HJ9DQJT32CA43,S94HAQ73D4CKT8762|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|d|mb|4C|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|nt|poohbear: Majors shouldnt be in the picture since if North had 2 places to play he would start with dbl |pg|| nt|poohbear: to me 4@h is a real suit and not Kxxx|pg|| nt|poohbear: Kxxx AQJxx AKx x|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|nt|vugraphc1: Kaplan calling the TD|pg|| nt|vugraphc1: It's Bas again btw :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|poohbear: you get around|pg|| nt|vugraphc1: It seems to have been because of the bidding on after the break in tempo before 4@H|pg|| nt|poohbear: of course . Kaplan wants them to play 4@H . |pg|| pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|d8|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d2|pc|s9|pc|dA|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|cA|pg|| pc|s7|pc|h3|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|s2|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d9|pc|d3|pc|h7|pg|| pc|d6|pc|s5|pc|dT|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c4|pc|cT|pc|s6|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|c7|pc|h6|pc|h4|pc|sJ|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o13|st||md|3S87432HAK4DT852C4,SKQT65HT5DQ7CAQ93,SJ9HQ872DAJ3C8765,SAHJ963DK964CKJT2|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H!|an|s/o or GF !S|mb|p|mb|2S!|mb|p|mb|3C!|mb|p|mb|3H!|nt|poohbear: One could make a case for rebidding 1NT with the East hand or even passing it initially since it is so easy to get back into the auction if the opps bid @ss and not wanting to get ...|pg|| nt|poohbear: back in if they dont|pg|| mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4S|nt|poohbear: even with the West strength 3NT is hardly a bargain|pg|| nt|poohbear: and now they have reached the point of no return|pg|| mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg|| nt|poohbear: will be a quick cashout |pg|| pc|hA|pc|hT|pc|h7|pc|h6|pg|| nt|poohbear: a slow cashout ?|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h4|nt|poohbear: South could see @ss werent running so he was considering a trump shift|pg|| pc|c3|pc|h8|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sJ|pc|d9|pc|s3|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c13|st||md|3S87432HAK4DT852C4,SKQT65HT5DQ7CAQ93,SJ9HQ872DAJ3C8765,SAHJ963DK964CKJT2|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|poohbear: 2@d artificcial Game Force|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hT|pc|h7|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h4|pc|c3|pc|hQ|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h9|nt|poohbear: with the @s jack coming down there are 9 tricks but declarer doesnt know it. Here the defense has set up a 9th trick in @Hs|pg|| pc|c4|pc|s5|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg|| mc|9|nt|poohbear: 12 to the US|pg|| nt|vugraphc1: 5.5 minutes remaining on the clock|pg|| pg|| qx|o14|st||md|4SAKQ963HAK5D8CT76,S54HJ83DT72CKJ842,S87HT76DA543CQ953,SJT2HQ942DKQJ96CA|sv|o|nt|poohbear: the ace of @ds couldnt run away unless declarer had 2@h winners|pg|| mb|1D|mb|d|mb|p|nt|poohbear: i can see 9 tricks in NT for NS |pg|| nt|poohbear: but not necessarily 10 in @s|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|nt|poohbear: a 2@s bid is now forcing since 1NT showed some values|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|poohbear: Kriegel didnt think so |pg|| pc|d2|nt|vugrapho1: They were just discussing that, Kriegel stating: "I didn't want to find out if 2@S was forcing"|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d8|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| nt|poohbear: i was about to say that|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|s8|pc|sT|pg|| pc|sK|pc|c4|pc|d3|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|vugrapho1: Grossack saying that if it wasn't 100% forcing, it definitely was close|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cA|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h6|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c8|pc|c9|pc|h9|pg|| mc|10|nt|poohbear: If it wasnt 100 percent the exception would be some 14-15 point hand with 4@h that was worried about hearts getting buried . Still u might pass 1NT with that|pg|| nt|poohbear: of course Zach didnt have to bid 1NT he could have bid 3@c|pg|| nt|poohbear: 2@c|pg|| pg|| qx|c14|st||md|4SAKQ963HAK5D8CT76,S54HJ83DT72CKJ842,S87HT76DA543CQ953,SJT2HQ942DKQJ96CA|sv|o|mb|1N|an|*|mb|2D!|an|1 Major|mb|p|mb|2H!|an|Waiting|nt|poohbear: i think west passed|pg|| mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c7|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|d7|pc|dA|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s8|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|c4|pc|d3|pc|sT|pg|| pc|s9|pc|c8|pc|d4|pc|h2|pg|| pc|s6|pc|cJ|pc|d5|pc|d6|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|d9|pg|| mc|11|pg||