vg|2018 Vanderbilt FINAL,Segment 3 of 4,I,1,15,Nickell,51,Fleisher,88| rs|6SN=,6SN=,2SE=,3SW=,4SE=,3SE=,3NE+1,1SE=,4SS+2,4SS+2,6NE-1,6NE-1,7CW=,7CW=,4DS-1,4HW-1,5CS=,5CS=,4HW+2,6HE=,3HW=,3DSx-1,4HN-1,2HS=,4HW+1,4HW+1,3NE+4,6DE=,3DE+1,3DE=| pn|Weinstein,Moss,Levin,Grue,Martel,Meckstroth,Fleisher,Rodwell|pg|| qx|o1|st||md|3SAT863HKQD875CQ72,S9752HT874D642C86,SKQJHA963DK3CAKJT,S4HJ52DAQJT9C9543|sv|o|mb|2N|an|19+ - 21|mb|p|mb|3H!|an|!s|mb|p|mb|3N|an|3!s, max|mb|p|nt|frankaus: started out right siding it but can they still do it now?|pg|| mb|4H!|mb|p|mb|4S|nt|frankaus: looks like it :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|4N|an|rkc|mb|p|mb|5D|an|0-3|mb|p|mb|5H|an|Q ask|mb|p|mb|6C|an|Q!s, k!c|nt|frankaus: 6@S looks to be a challange |pg|| nt|frankaus: 6@C is easyer|pg|| mb|p|mb|6S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dA|pc|d5|nt|vugraphzff: Levin: It's a rather good dummy|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d7|pc|d4|pc|dK|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c1|st||md|3SAT863HKQD875CQ72,S9752HT874D642C86,SKQJHA963DK3CAKJT,S4HJ52DAQJT9C9543|sv|o|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4N|mb|p|mb|6S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: 2N = 20-22 // 4N = QUANT|pg|| nt|ahollan2: there is voice commentary at this table|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d7|mc|12|pg|| qx|o2|st||md|4ST74HA632DA75CJT6,SKQJ86H98DQ983C85,S93HKJT74DKT4CQ73,SA52HQ5DJ62CAK942|sv|n|mb|1N|an|14-16|mb|p|mb|2H!|an|!s|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cJ|pc|c5|pc|c7|pc|cA|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sK|nt|ahollan1: ew 1N ranges [nv:12] 14-16 [nv:3] 12-16, no upgrades [vul/4th] 15-17|pg|| pc|s9|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c8|pc|c3|pc|cK|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d7|pc|d8|pc|dT|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h8|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|hJ|pc|h5|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|d9|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c2|st||md|4ST74HA632DA75CJT6,SKQJ86H98DQ983C85,S93HKJT74DKT4CQ73,SA52HQ5DJ62CAK942|sv|n|nt|ahollan2: browser bbo voice is box just next to chat box click "start listening"|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: EW 1N 1/2/3nv: 14-16 3v/4: 15-17|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|nt|ahollan2: NS 1N nv 1/2/3: 14-16 else 15-17|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S!|nt|phil: friendly hand - all Al(l) welcome back|pg|| mb|p|nt|ritong: hi clayton|pg|| nt|phil: hey amigo....|pg|| nt|ahollan2: i am told voice not working on ipad|pg|| nt|ritong: rodwell has a so/so hand and is not vulnerable|pg|| nt|ahollan2: i have never even held an ipad so i have to accept those comments|pg|| nt|ahollan2: roland confirms old version of bbo did work on ipad, but not new version|pg|| nt|phil: the clubs and spade fit are nice. The rest isn't that useful. |pg|| nt|ritong: yes mitch mitch|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 2@S = 5@S INV|pg|| mb|3S|nt|ahollan2: playing that you can use 2nd transfers by responder a|pg|| nt|ahollan2: after 1N-2@H-2@S|pg|| nt|ritong: now, if they punt game, opening lead might give it|pg|| nt|phil: so I suppose this is the only way to invite with 5 Al? |pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan2: i believe so phil|pg|| nt|ahollan2: moss transfered to 2@S and that ended auction|pg|| nt|phil: but even on a black suit lead, declarer will get tapped before setting up the diamond - assuming he guesses that right|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|phil: about the only way to let it in is high diamond / switch|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|s7|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cT|pc|c8|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|sJ|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|s6|pc|h4|pc|sA|pc|sT|pg|| pc|c4|pc|h2|pc|h8|nt|kit: Hi everybody|pg|| nt|ritong: hi kit|pg|| pc|d4|pg|| pc|c9|pc|h3|nt|kareno: Hi all|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h7|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|d9|pc|dT|pg|| nt|ritong: hello karen|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|d5|pc|d3|pg|| nt|phil: hello|pg|| nt|kareno: Bonjour a Valentine aussi|pg|| mc|9|nt|ritong: :)|pg|| pg|| qx|o3|st||md|1S5HA8DAT62CKT9864,SA83HKQT9DQ54C753,SQ64H7654DK98CQJ2,SKJT972HJ32DJ73CA|sv|e|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|2S|mb|2N!|an|Bad somewhat|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: good/bad 2N differentiates rebids by opener - in comp - of good hands vs competitive hands|pg|| nt|frankaus: will Grue find @S Q?|pg|| nt|frankaus: seems a little hard to me|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 3@H random game try?|pg|| nt|vugraphzff: Better question is will S bid 5@c|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c9|nt|vugraphzff: Leads are 3/5|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|cA|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|hK|pc|h6|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|s9|pc|c4|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cJ|pc|sT|pc|cK|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hA|nt|frankaus: wd |pg|| pc|h9|pc|h4|pg|| pc|cT|pc|d4|pc|sQ|mc|10|pg|| qx|c3|st||md|1S5HA8DAT62CKT9864,SA83HKQT9DQ54C753,SQ64H7654DK98CQJ2,SKJT972HJ32DJ73CA|sv|e|nt|ahollan2: 1@C = 2+@C|pg|| mb|1C|mb|p|nt|kareno: 4@s depends on locating the spade queen|pg|| mb|1D|an|4!H|nt|ahollan2: 1@D=4+@H|pg|| mb|2S|nt|ahollan2: weinstein used good/bad 2N intending to show competitive hand|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan2: but moss bid 3@C to show good raise|pg|| nt|kit: At this vul the jump overcall will often have more playing strength, so West may be thinking of game.|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|BroLucius: Hi ROland. No, I just came to see the score.|pg|| mb|p|nt|kareno: For a vulnerable game, odds of even under 40 percent will suffice since the big 500 game bonus makes it worth the try|pg|| pc|hA|nt|Vugraphzfg: Meck: I hope that's not too much|pg|| pc|h9|nt|ahollan2: btw if you saw Q2 the auction where we were all confused about rodwell 3rd seat 2@H with 5@H 5@D -- players confirmed and archive will show correction that meckstroth did open ...|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 1@S|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h3|pg|| nt|ahollan2: grue is in 4@S|pg|| nt|phil: that only made sense|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d4|nt|kareno: So a swing depends on his sniffer.|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d7|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c3|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|c6|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| nt|kareno: Interesting - 3 suits in the first three tricks. There's a joke somewhere about trying to induce a revoke by changing suits like that|pg|| nt|ahollan2: other room 1@C-P-1N-2@S//2N*-3@C-P-3@H//P-4@S-end|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cJ|pc|s7|pc|c8|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dA|mc|9|pg|| qx|o4|st||md|2SJ43HQT8DQT4CKJT6,ST62HAKJ92DJ3C843,SK87H7643DA952C75,SAQ95H5DK876CAQ92|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraphzff: Board got flipped, so N is Weinstein, and W is Grue this time|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S!|nt|frankaus: bidding red games is highly rewarded - don't need to make all of them - they are most likely bidding them at the other table|pg|| nt|ahollan1: EW play 2 systems non-vul and 4th seat = precision vul 1/2/3 = 2/1|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: guessing from alert of 1@S that shows an unbalanced hand|pg|| mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: for meckwell and most pairs playing rm lite 1@S is obligatory after nebulous 1@D-1@H|pg|| nt|frankaus: another tight red game|pg|| nt|vugraphzff: Alerts are written down|pg|| nt|ahollan1: but grue's 1@D is natural here|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hA|nt|frankaus: bid tight red games - defence is much harder them declarer play|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|d6|pc|h8|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h3|pc|d7|pc|hT|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h7|pc|c2|nt|ahollan1: declarer forced to cash @H long before he wanted to play that suit|pg|| pc|c6|pg|| nt|ahollan1: not to mention lead did not clear up any of the other suits|pg|| nt|frankaus: will defensive carding help dec here?|pg|| pc|h2|pc|d5|pc|c9|nt|frankaus: grue is fast - that gives him time to think when defense ponders|pg|| nt|vugraphzff: Moss is playing the hand, the board was flipped|pg|| nt|vugraphzff: we are waiting for Levin to discard|pg|| pc|s4|pg|| nt|frankaus: ohhhhh|pg|| nt|Harmon: why did u flip the board Maya?|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s7|pc|s9|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|frankaus: majic moment - must lead 1D x to set|pg|| nt|frankaus: @Dx|pg|| nt|frankaus: prob willl get it |pg|| nt|warrens: And a @c return after winning the A of @d|pg|| nt|ahollan1: from operator in other room "kibitzer has fallen asleep in his chair and is snoring. Fleisher smiles and gives him a nudge."|pg|| nt|vugraphzff: Levin taking the time to consider all options|pg|| nt|vugraphzff: Again, for late joining kibs, board was flipped, so Levin is playing S hand on this board|pg|| nt|frankaus: we could have a punt on the next sard ....... my punt ..... @DT|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|dK|pg|| pc|c5|nt|frankaus: this is y i dont bet ;)|pg|| nt|vugraphzff: Now Moss is thinking what to play|pg|| nt|ahollan1: which author will get to do this writeup?|pg|| nt|frankaus: we coud give hin a does not matter wink :)|pg|| nt|ahollan1: is there a reason to NOT play @CQ?|pg|| nt|warrens: Yes, if you think South has Kx, x, KJ10left, you want to go up, cash a @d, then exit a @c for an endplay|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i guess since south can win @C and exit @D that there is no extra chance for @C33|pg|| nt|ahollan1: but @CQ could win a trick|pg|| nt|ahollan1: thinking that @C33 might allow endplay |pg|| nt|ahollan1: i would love to be able to explain the @D play -- just too deep for me|pg|| nt|Harmon: 10 of d's was only play|pg|| nt|Harmon: then club and no entry to dummy|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|c3|pg|| nt|Harmon: here he has alosing option|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|d2|pc|d8|pg|| nt|Harmon: The Canooz suggested this|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s8|pc|s5|pc|s3|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c4|st||md|2SJ43HQT8DQT4CKJT6,ST62HAKJ92DJ3C843,SK87H7643DA952C75,SAQ95H5DK876CAQ92|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D!|an|2+ diamonds|nt|ahollan2: 1@D = 11-15, 2+@D|pg|| nt|kareno: After the first spade trick, the odds are 52-48 they will break 2-2. But any small additional information may swing the decision.|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: 1@S obligatory with 4@S|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: even 4333|pg|| nt|kareno: Yesterday there was a slam where, after a preempt, both declarers, after losing an ace took the finesse against the non-preempter to go down in slam|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: With the limited opening bid, West had no reason to bid more.|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 3 grue made 4@S|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: Meck leaves the room|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|h7|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h3|nt|kit: somewhat messy hand -- he has 2 hearts and 1 club for sure. Wil take AK of hearts and lead a diamond to king it looks like, and scramble from there.|pg|| pc|d6|pc|hT|pg|| nt|kit: Will hope to get one ruff in dummy, and then can take the club finesse|pg|| nt|phil: Ill predict 110|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg|| nt|ahollan2: grue in 3N|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c4|pg|| nt|kareno: That's too high!|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dQ|pc|dJ|pc|d2|pg|| nt|ahollan2: P-1@D//1@H-1@S//2@D-2N//3N-end|pg|| nt|kit: 3NT an awul contract, but has good chances of making with very favorable heart lie|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dT|nt|kareno: That's true - 5 heart tricks |pg|| nt|ahollan2: weinstein leads @HQ |pg|| pc|s6|pc|d5|pg|| pc|c8|nt|ahollan2: oops board rotated so moss playing 3N and levin leads @HQ|pg|| pc|s8|pc|c9|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s5|pc|sJ|nt|kit: and at other table in 3NT got queen of hearts lead, which is probably best lead for the defense.|pg|| pc|sT|pg|| pc|cT|nt|ahollan2: thanks to people mentioning that to the other me|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o5|st||md|3SAKT2HJ5DQJT6CQJ2,S63HK82DK8CAT8765,SQ984HAQT9DA742C4,SJ75H7643D953CK93|sv|n|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2C|mb|2S!|mb|3C|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c8|nt|vugraphzff: leads are 3/5th|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cK|nt|ahollan1: 1@S not 4@H unless FG|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| pc|d5|nt|ahollan1: 2@S = 4-fit|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| nt|frankaus: this may be a lot faster :)|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sK|pc|c5|pc|s8|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|h4|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d8|pc|d2|pc|d3|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h8|pc|hT|mc|12|pg|| qx|c5|st||md|3SAKT2HJ5DQJT6CQJ2,S63HK82DK8CAT8765,SQ984HAQT9DA742C4,SJ75H7643D953CK93|sv|n|mb|1D|an|5 diamonds unless 4-4-41|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: 1@D usually unbal|pg|| mb|1S|mb|2C|mb|2S|mb|3C|nt|ahollan2: kit - did i notice that you played platinum pairs with martel?|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 2@S = 4-fit|pg|| nt|kit: This will get them quickly to 4@S -- and West unlikely to save.|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|nt|kit: Yes, did play with Chip in Platinum pairs|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|cA|nt|kit: With everything working, this will take a lot of tricks.|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|c2|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hQ|pc|h7|pc|h5|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|c8|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|h3|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|d8|pg|| nt|kareno: Claim before you make a mistake!|pg|| mc|12|nt|Vugraphzfg: Meck: well played (sarcasm font) -- he and Martel laugh|pg|| pg|| qx|o6|st||md|4S9854H953D732CT84,S72HKQT84DQJ965C5,ST63HA62DKT8CQ963,SAKQJHJ7DA4CAKJ72|sv|e|mb|2C!|an|strong|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@D = waiting, FG|pg|| mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3D!|an|!h|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4D!|an|5!d|mb|p|nt|frankaus: will Moss push towards slam?|pg|| mb|4H|an|2 or 3!h|mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|nt|frankaus: 6@H needs quite alot to make but looks to be there on the layout|pg|| mb|5N|an|pick a slam|mb|p|mb|6H|mb|p|mb|6N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: seems only relay methods have outside chance of avoiding 6N|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sK|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s7|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|d5|pc|sT|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s8|pc|d6|nt|frankaus: @HJ was a vital card - even with relays Js hard to identify|pg|| pc|h2|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|h6|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|d9|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cT|pc|h4|pc|c9|pg|| pc|c7|pc|d2|pc|h8|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h7|mc|11|pg|| qx|c6|st||md|4S9854H953D732CT84,S72HKQT84DQJ965C5,ST63HA62DKT8CQ963,SAKQJHJ7DA4CAKJ72|sv|e|mb|1C!|an|strong artificial|mb|p|mb|1S!|an|GF 5+ hearts|nt|ahollan2: 1@C = 16+unbal or 17+BAL|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 1@S = FG, 5+@H|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|nt|ahollan2: 1N asks controls A=2 K=1 step 1 = 3|pg|| mb|p|mb|2C!|nt|kareno: 6 nt by east is best|pg|| nt|ahollan2: well that doesn't match west hand|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D|nt|kareno: Really 6@h by east!|pg|| nt|phil: I like 6@h (by E)- gives you chance to ruff out the club before committing to the @d|pg|| nt|kareno: There is no entry into the hearts in nt|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S!|nt|Vugraphzfg: all artificial here. lots of writing (i can't see)|pg|| nt|ahollan2: they used to have 2@C=3controls and 2@S = 0-2 maybe they have reverted to the original precision asking bid steps|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: maybe Joe can get specifics about the bids so that i can fill in new gaps in my notes|pg|| nt|kit: difficult to get to the best slam of 6@H, if one is going to get to slam.|pg|| nt|phil: maybe there's a set on the black market :P|pg|| nt|ahollan2: not knowing what meck has shown - impossible to posit what rodwell is thinking about|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: kibitzer has fallen asleep in his chair and is snoring. Fleisher smiles and gives him a nudge.|pg|| nt|ahollan2: that's hilarious - and maybe a bit sad|pg|| mb|4N|nt|kareno: I was once doing vugraph (the first one over the Internet EVER) and a Polish player fell asleep during the play of a hand he was defending!|pg|| mb|p|mb|6D|mb|p|nt|kareno: 6@h for the money|pg|| nt|ahollan2: i had director call to my table once because my partner fell asleep|pg|| nt|ahollan2: ok - he was hammered and passed out|pg|| nt|kit: East presumably knows West is 5-5, so must choose hearts. Seems like he should, holding the jack.|pg|| nt|ahollan2: first time i had played with someone with more than 10K monsterpoints|pg|| nt|phil: Al, could Meck he 5@h/6@d? |pg|| nt|kareno: Why wouldn't he show diamonds first in that case?|pg|| nt|phil: maybe he would, IDK |pg|| nt|ahollan2: i think his first obligation would be to show 5@H but not 100% certain|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: Martel dropped a pastic cup of water and it splashed significantly onto Meck. Meck"you got me; got me pretty good" - and laughs|pg|| mb|6N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: 4 levin as defender has been in tank for LONG time |pg|| nt|kit: This was not the winning decision.|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: 2@d showed clubs; 2@S is not fit for hearts; 2N waiting; 3@D natural; 4NT quantitative. Meck: I had it all right; that is unbelievable|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: Fleish: and unllucky for us|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: sry, likely 2@S was no fit for clubs|pg|| pc|h5|nt|kareno: So much for cashing 4 spades to squeeze north. This might be the only lead|pg|| nt|ahollan2: thanks for the details Joe|pg|| nt|kareno: S would not lead from the heart jack.|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: Meck leaves table and is walking around the room|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h7|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c8|nt|ahollan2: journalists scrambling to do writeup of 4|pg|| pc|s2|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cT|pc|s7|pc|c9|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|d6|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s5|nt|phil: this would be a winning line if North were 3433 since he'd he endplayed upon winning the @hA|pg|| pc|d5|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s8|pc|h4|pc|sT|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s9|pc|d9|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|d2|pc|h8|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d4|pc|d3|mc|11|nt|Vugraphzfg: short break|pg|| nt|kareno: GL to all - I have to go and will have to read about it. Nickell's team is known for huge comebacks - hafta see|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: bckl|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: back|pg|| pg|| qx|o7|st||md|1SQ9872H87542D2C75,ST4HQDAQJ654CAK92,SJ5HKJT63DT93CJ63,SAK63HA9DK87CQT84|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H!|an|relay|mb|p|mb|2N!|an|1!s|mb|p|nt|frankaus: with all the controls - massive double fit - maybe they will bid the grand in NT|pg|| mb|3C!|an|relay|mb|p|mb|3S!|an|1-2-6-4|mb|p|nt|frankaus: can the identify both the @CQ and @DK |pg|| mb|4H!|an|rkc for !c|mb|p|mb|4S|an|0-3|mb|p|nt|frankaus: every chance they can|pg|| mb|4N!|an|Q ask Grand ST|mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|mb|5D|an|!|mb|p|mb|7C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s5|pc|sA|nt|frankaus: play should be quick - like claim T1|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sT|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| nt|frankaus: maybe T3|pg|| mc|13|pg|| qx|c7|st||md|1SQ9872H87542D2C75,ST4HQDAQJ654CAK92,SJ5HKJT63DT93CJ63,SAK63HA9DK87CQT84|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|2H!|mb|p|mb|2N!|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: 1@C = 16+unbal or 17+BAL // 2@H = BAL, 14+hcp|pg|| nt|kit: this looks like a pretty easy grand to bid|pg|| nt|ahollan2: no 5+suit|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3H!|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: another sequence i cannot explain|pg|| nt|ahollan2: WALTER|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 4 finally in -- 3N+1|pg|| mb|4D!|mb|p|mb|4S!|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: 2@H was last bid i could explain|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: lots of writing, of course|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: Meck seems to be counting on his fingers (not really but counting to himslef and pointing to table)|pg|| mb|5H|mb|d|mb|5S!|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfg: what I can read includes "I think" and "should be"|pg|| mb|7C|nt|Vugraphzfg: Meck thinks 5@S after the X showed the queen|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: queen of clubs that is|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan2: 6 another long auction grue arrives in 6N|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: Rodwell shrugs and reaches for a pass card - now thinking again|pg|| mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfg: Rod showed 4=2=3=4 with 3 KC for diamonds and then said he had the queen of clubs|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: Meck is confident about this one|pg|| mb|p|pc|c3|pc|c4|nt|Vugraphzfg: MEck said Rod has an extra king and "nice to see the trump lead"|pg|| mc|13|pg|| qx|o8|st||md|2SQT73H2DKJ9432CAJ,SKJ94HAKQJT6D7C94,SA6H873DT65CKQ876,S852H954DAQ8CT532|sv|o|nt|frankaus: t2 :)|pg|| mb|1C!|an|16+, if he has 6!h 15+|mb|p|mb|1D!|mb|2D|mb|2H|mb|3D|mb|3H|nt|ahollan1: 1@C = 16+unbal or 17+BAL|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@D = 0-7|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h9|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h7|pc|h4|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|d5|pc|dA|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c9|pc|c7|pc|c3|pg|| pc|d9|pc|hA|pc|d6|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|s6|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c8|st||md|2SQT73H2DKJ9432CAJ,SKJ94HAKQJT6D7C94,SA6H873DT65CKQ876,S852H954DAQ8CT532|sv|o|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|2D|mb|4H|nt|ahollan2: 1@H = 10-15 // 1N = semi-force|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d7|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|d6|nt|Vugraphzfg: after playing 7 of diamonds, Meck said "no beer for me"|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|h6|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s4|pc|h7|mc|9|nt|Vugraphzfg: Meck: you had ace queen in the wrong suit, partner|pg|| pg|| qx|o9|st||md|3SAKJ75H9DKQ4CQJT9,ST93HJ86542D876C3,S82HKQ7DAJT5CA752,SQ64HAT3D932CK864|sv|e|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@S = not 4+@H unless FG|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2N|nt|ahollan1: 2@D = art FG|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2N = not 4@H, not 3@S|pg|| mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|frankaus: looks like game makes in 4/5 strains :) |pg|| mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4D!|mb|p|mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraphzff: S hand is not 5/5 in the black suits|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h9|pg|| pc|hT|pc|c9|pc|h5|pc|h7|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|cK|pg|| pc|h3|pc|s7|pc|h8|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|cT|pc|h2|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|h4|pc|c7|pc|c6|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|dJ|pc|d2|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c8|mc|11|pg|| qx|c9|st||md|3SAKJ75H9DKQ4CQJT9,ST93HJ86542D876C3,S82HKQ7DAJT5CA752,SQ64HAT3D932CK864|sv|e|mb|1N|an|14-16|mb|p|mb|2H!|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: 1st thing they teach == blame partner|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 1N = 14-16|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h9|pg|| nt|ahollan2: very sensible imp auction|pg|| pc|h3|pc|s5|nt|Vugraphzfg: Martel had spade 5 out and put it back. He is going through the play and rearranging the cards in his hand as he does|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 3N did not deny @C support but his hand is slam regressive with so much in red suits|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|h5|pc|c5|nt|ahollan2: fleisher bidding red suit over 3@C would suggest concern about other red suit for 3N|pg|| pc|cK|pg|| nt|phil: wouldnt it be coming in clubs? |pg|| nt|stc: note that NS may make 6@d on a not @c lead|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: Fleisher is out of the room|pg|| pc|hT|pc|cT|pc|h2|pc|h7|pg|| pc|c9|nt|ahollan2: 7 pushed at 7@C|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: Martel shows his hand the Meck and they go on to the next hand|pg|| nt|stc: in fact if played by N 6@d on any lead|pg|| nt|stc: thanks specs|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: director is holding out a couple of boards because of slow play inother room. If they catch up, they will be back in play.|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o10|st||md|4ST986HTDKQJT4CJ97,SA5HAJ975DA762CQT,SQJ7HK842D953C854,SK432HQ63D8CAK632|sv|b|mb|1C|nt|vugraphzff: Director came to remind playeres there are less than 30 min left for this quarter|pg|| nt|vugraphzff: Grue jokingly told Levin it was his fault, for flipping the board 4|pg|| mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|vugraphzff: because Weinstein and Grue would have completed the board with no delays|pg|| mb|3D|an|gf, 5!h and 4+!d|mb|p|mb|3S|an|slam try|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d3|nt|vugraphzff: 3@s was explained as slam try|pg|| nt|ahollan1: rodwell precision 2@D open showed exact shape with min and then cooperated when meck made slam try in @H|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dT|pc|dA|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|hT|pg|| pc|h3|pc|d4|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|dK|pc|h7|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c10|st||md|4ST986HTDKQJT4CJ97,SA5HAJ975DA762CQT,SQJ7HK842D953C854,SK432HQ63D8CAK632|sv|b|nt|Vugraphzfg: this table is right on time|pg|| mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2N!|mb|p|mb|3C!|nt|ahollan2: 2@D = 10-15, 4415 minus 1 card|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 2N RELAY|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan2: 3@C min|pg|| mb|3D!|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: 3@D RELAY|pg|| mb|3H!|an|4=3=1=5|nt|ahollan2: 3@H = fragment so 4@S 3@H 1@D 5@C|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: West likes his hand, will probably make some slam move|pg|| nt|kit: I think 4@H now is slam try in hearts|pg|| nt|phil: this is where "Mulberry" kicks in|pg|| mb|4C!|mb|p|nt|kit: sorry -- had it backwards|pg|| nt|kit: 4@C forces 4@D, then 4@H is slam try in hearts|pg|| mb|4D!|nt|phil: I think 4@c puppets to 4@d then 4@h is RKB|pg|| mb|d|mb|4H|nt|ahollan2: 4@C forces 4@D|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 4@H = natural slam try|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: Immediate 4@H, 4@S, and 4NT would be RKC calls in clubs, spades, diamonds respectively|pg|| mb|4S!|an|KC|nt|ahollan2: as kit said|pg|| mb|p|mb|4N|an|3|nt|phil: there's different versions on the market|pg|| nt|ahollan2: i think kit's version better|pg|| nt|kit: East has clear acceptance, considering he has already shown a minimum -- his hand couldn't be better|pg|| nt|ahollan2: where direct bid is natural slam try|pg|| nt|kit: so he drives it -- 4@S is RKC|pg|| mb|p|mb|6H|nt|ahollan2: and delayed bids are coded RKC|pg|| nt|phil: kits is better but its more prone to accidents when people "sign off" in 4M|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: I think my method is less accident prone -- that's why we do it|pg|| nt|ahollan2: part of mulberry includes 4@D EndSignal |pg|| nt|kit: When immediate 4M bid is defined as RKC (but is bid as signoff), there is no tomorrow|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 4@S RKC[0314] @H|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: Fleisher starts to lead and Rodwell waives him off|pg|| pc|sT|nt|kit: At least with us if somebody forgets we will be in the right suit|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 8 [4@HW -1] weinstein in 4@D south|pg|| nt|phil: lol that was true for me in an event a few years ago. Partner forgot - and we didnt play Day 2 - so no tomorrow|pg|| nt|kit: This could be tricky with the 4-1 heart split|pg|| nt|kit: North will duck first round of hearts, of course|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: Meck leaves the room|pg|| nt|kit: Then declarer can ruff 2 diamonds in dummy and pitch last diamond on the club with clubs splitting.|pg|| nt|ahollan2: i'm still wondering where to win trick 1|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 8 fleisher -50 in both rooms|pg|| nt|kit: Win king of spades and lead queen of hearts looks like right approach to me.|pg|| nt|kit: When 10 appears and queen holds, declarer will know what he is up against|pg|| nt|kit: And will be able to recover via 2 diamond ruffs|pg|| nt|kit: Of course if North wins the first heart, the clubs will run and there is no problem|pg|| nt|ahollan2: oops nickell -50 in both rooms on 8|pg|| nt|ahollan2: you think i would know by now that levin-weinstein are now nickell rather than fleisher|pg|| nt|kit: And if North ducks first heart, decladrer can ruff 2 diamonds and pitch one on the club, taking 6 heart tricks, 3 club tricks, 2 spade tricks, 1 diamond trick|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: Meck back but tells kibber to keep turning dummy "i'll just pace for a while"|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: Rodwell "sorry" [for taking a while]|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|h2|pg|| nt|kit: He might try ruffing 3 diamonds in dummy and scrambling|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 9 weinstein also in 5@C|pg|| nt|kit: I am surprised by low heart from dummy -- since dummy will be ruffing some diamonds, what is purpose of keeping queen of hearts there|pg|| pc|hA|nt|kit: Now he can't afford to ruff 2 diamond in dummy|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|d4|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hK|nt|kit: sorry, in his hand|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|dK|pg|| nt|ahollan2: must have seen @C splitting 33|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h8|pc|s2|nt|kit: This worked with clubs 3-3, but I don't care for the line |pg|| pc|s6|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: Rodwell shows his and and says he will make if clubs are 3-3|pg|| nt|ahollan2: was there a vig if @HK in south?|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o11|st||md|1S8HJ4DAQT653CQT52,SQJHT876DK942C943,SK9642HKQ3DJ87CK6,SAT753HA952DCAJ87|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|3D!|an|nat|nt|ahollan1: i thought passed hand jump shift was fit-showing ... WRONG|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|nt|fuquay: Although 3@D has only 4 immediate losers, the 9@D rates to be promoted to a trick|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d7|pc|s3|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg|| nt|fuquay: A kibitzer said and I had almost said before that a @C discard seems better|pg|| nt|fuquay: But then we can see that @C10 is offside|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|hQ|nt|fuquay: Winning and playing another @H looks best since any other lead from dummy looks bad|pg|| pc|hA|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hJ|pc|h7|pc|h3|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| pc|s5|pc|d3|pc|sJ|pc|s2|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|c7|pc|d5|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|h5|pc|d6|pg|| nt|fuquay: If declarer had discarded a club and defense attacks @C, W would have had an immediate entry to pitch the third club|pg|| pc|sT|pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|s4|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|c6|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c11|st||md|1S8HJ4DAQT653CQT52,SQJHT876DK942C943,SK9642HKQ3DJ87CK6,SAT753HA952DCAJ87|sv|o|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|nt|kit: Should West bid 3@H or pass -- close decision IMO|pg|| nt|phil: even if the heart hook worked - he was still down if clubs werent splitting. |pg|| nt|kit: This time it looks like passing will not be successful|pg|| nt|kit: I admit that I would pass|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|sQ|nt|kit: And I have some company for my -470 it looks like|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: Meck on seeing dummy "pretty good hand"|pg|| nt|ahollan2: should we do larry cohen math to guess 3@H vs PASS?|pg|| nt|kit: Well, it makes "some" difference whether East has 0, 1, or 2 diamonds|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg|| nt|ahollan2: assume rodwell 4414, so they have 8 @D and we have 8 @H|pg|| nt|kit: Still possible that 9D might get promoted, but I think declarer can dodge that|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 16 trump is supposed to defend at 3-level, isn't it?|pg|| nt|kit: Hmm -- maybe he can't|pg|| pc|s5|pc|d5|pc|sJ|pc|s2|pg|| nt|phil: if he hooks the @cT will he survive? |pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h6|pc|h3|nt|kit: He will for starters have to ruff next spade high, which isn't 100%|pg|| nt|ahollan2: it has been a very long time since i have tried to do total trump/total trick calculations |pg|| pc|hA|pg|| pc|s3|nt|ahollan2: 10 grue moss stop in 4@H|pg|| nt|kit: Maybe declarer would have been better off leading a diamond immediately, since he will be playing North for 9 of diamonds anyway and he doesn't need all that many ruffs in dummy.|pg|| pc|dT|pc|c9|pc|s4|pg|| nt|phil: I think if he ruffs high, West can pitch clubs and eventually score a club ruff. |pg|| nt|kit: Problem here is West can discard clubs, and then get second round club ruff|pg|| nt|kit: So maybe declarer had to play on clubs before hearts|pg|| nt|kit: Complex hand.|pg|| nt|phil: there's an entry in Rodwell's book - I think he calls it the Short Shake|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: Martel is reattanging the cards in his hand, playing it out in his mind|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| pc|s7|pc|dQ|pc|c4|pc|s6|pg|| nt|ahollan2: joe's description is one of the reasons i think it will always be hard sell to make the game exclusively electronic|pg|| nt|kit: No way for declarer to recover now|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|c5|pc|h8|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|d2|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o12|st||md|2SJ65HQ6542DK64CK3,SK7HKJ97DAQT2CQT6,SAQ932HA83DJ8CA75,ST84HTD9753CJ9842|sv|n|nt|fuquay: Well played |pg|| mb|1N|an|14-16|nt|fuquay: Although S could have played @C rather than @S to make a more challenging defense, I think|pg|| mb|d!|an|penalty|mb|3C!|an|nat weak|nt|fuquay: S could also have started @H with J|pg|| nt|vugraphzff: 5 min on the clock, director is observing both tables closely|pg|| mb|3D!|an|!h|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 3@D obviously @H seems they treat auction as if north opened 1N and east bid 3@C|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraphzff: Systems are on over 3@c for N/S|pg|| pc|s4|nt|fuquay: The question is -1 or -2 |pg|| nt|fuquay: N knows that E has at most 2 points|pg|| pc|s5|nt|fuquay: He may play for doubleton @HK|pg|| nt|fuquay: It won't work :)|pg|| nt|vugraphzff: We are waiting on W hand, so I updated bidding explanations|pg|| nt|ahollan1: TD had removed some boards from play -- just handed 14 to closed room after short delay|pg|| nt|vugraphzff: Time just ran out|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s9|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hT|pc|h2|pc|h7|pg|| pc|h3|pc|c4|pc|h4|pc|h9|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|cK|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sT|pc|s6|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|d3|pc|h5|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c12|st||md|2SJ65HQ6542DK64CK3,SK7HKJ97DAQT2CQT6,SAQ932HA83DJ8CA75,ST84HTD9753CJ9842|sv|n|nt|kit: So, I had my good company for +100 :)|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: Meck: that was not the dummy I was hoping to see|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: Martel: you partner had 3 aces, so that was not bad|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: Meck whispers to Martel: Certainly it is percentage to pass with my hand|pg|| mb|1N|mb|d|nt|ahollan2: 14-16|pg|| mb|2C!|an|clubs!!|nt|ahollan2: kit do you remember name of convention NS play over 1N?|pg|| nt|kit: N-S may get to to many hearts|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: Meck says 2 clubs natural is part of their very complex relay system|pg|| nt|kit: Nope, I don't know what double would have meant|pg|| mb|2H|nt|ahollan2: actually i think they may treat meck's 1N as weak|pg|| nt|ahollan2: so DBL = points|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: yes X was points|pg|| nt|kit: I know that they treat it as weak|pg|| nt|ahollan2: so it was a trick question and many specs did guess woolsey|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: Seems hardly fair for Jeff to actually have his bid|pg|| pc|c6|nt|kit: Even 2@H has problems, but I think he will scramble home.|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c3|pg|| nt|ahollan2: i believe they think non-vul 14-16 really 13-16 so when lower limit can be less than 14 1N=weak|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hT|pc|h2|pc|h7|pg|| pc|h3|pc|c8|pc|h6|pc|h9|pg|| nt|kit: This might not be declarer's best start|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 2@C was nat, nf|pg|| nt|ahollan2: i think rod did have option to show 2-suiter via RDBL|pg|| nt|phil: I think he will survive. West will run out of exits|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|c2|nt|kit: Still he will be okay if he plays West for 2 spades instead of 3 spades.|pg|| pc|cK|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 11 after P-P1@S-P//3@D-P-P-DBL moss pulled to 3@H|pg|| nt|kit: Actually might not matter -- spade to queen, club ruff, spade to ace, and if king hasn't fallen exit with a spade -- that should do it.|pg|| nt|phil: yeah|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s7|pc|sQ|pc|s8|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cJ|pc|h5|pc|cT|pg|| nt|kit: Looks like that is exactly what he is doing.|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|c9|pc|h4|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o13|st||md|3ST832H96DQ864C984,S6HKQJ87432DK75C7,SKJ4HT5DAJ2CAKQJT,SAQ975HADT93C6532|sv|b|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|c7|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h6|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|h8|pc|cT|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hT|pc|s5|pc|h9|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|cJ|pc|c5|pc|d4|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|cA|pc|s7|pc|s8|pg|| pc|h7|pc|cQ|pc|d3|pc|d8|pg|| pc|h4|pc|dA|pc|c6|pc|c9|pg|| pc|h3|pc|s4|pc|d9|pc|d6|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|s2|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c13|st||md|3ST832H96DQ864C984,S6HKQJ87432DK75C7,SKJ4HT5DAJ2CAKQJT,SAQ975HADT93C6532|sv|b|nt|Vugraphzfg: Fleisher asked what happened "made 2" Fleisher: well done I'm sure|pg|| mb|2N|nt|ahollan2: 2N = 20-22|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: That won't keep West out.|pg|| mb|p|mb|4H|nt|kit: But might stop West from bidding 4@H|pg|| nt|kit: Not today.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: you think your have strong balanced hand? i say bah|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|danmathies: hit the motherload|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: everyone laughs at how good dummy is|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|c7|pg|| nt|MrAce: finds 2 aces and a @S hook in dummy!|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: Meck asked Rodwell is they play Texas over 2NT|pg|| nt|phil: not a huge surprise after 2N - pass - pass|pg|| nt|ahollan2: hehe|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: if|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: Meck: this is first time we have ever had this auction after all these years|pg|| nt|ahollan2: actually texas over 1m opening has some merit|pg|| nt|ahollan2: fleisher BAM win and +1 im with 3@H making 3 vs 3@DX -1|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|d5|pg|| pc|cA|nt|ahollan2: 12 other room starts 1N-DBL-3@C|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h6|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c8|pc|hK|pc|cT|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hT|nt|phil: if he puts declarer on 8 hearts, the legitimate beat would be a low diamond at T2|pg|| pc|s5|pc|h9|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|cJ|pc|d9|pc|s2|pg|| pc|h8|mc|11|nt|MrAce: now N gets show up squeezed @S and @C anyway |pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: Meck claims on a show up squeeze|pg|| nt|kit: With the club guard isolated, squeeze chances|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: a delay now while we see if other table catches up enough to allow us to play the last two boards|pg|| nt|kit: Which I guess happened in some variation.|pg|| nt|phil: North also knows his partner probably doesnt have 5 spades; else he transfers|pg|| nt|ahollan2: other table playing 12|pg|| nt|ahollan2: i think it is just wrong to make the fast table "hurry up and wait"|pg|| nt|ahollan2: didn't like that in boot camp either|pg|| nt|ahollan2: i have seen 2 instances where fast table had to wait, TD finally let them play another board but SLOW TABLE finished first|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: we have 14|pg|| pg|| qx|o14|st||md|4SJT943HJ9DT32C754,SA5HAT65D654CQJT3,S876HKQ874D98CK86,SKQ2H32DAKQJ7CA92|sv|o|mb|1C!|an|16+|mb|p|mb|1H!|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|ahollan1: 1@C = 16+unbal or 17+BAL|pg|| mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@H = 12+ hcp, not primary @H|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@S RELAY // 2@C = BAL|pg|| mb|2S!|mb|p|mb|2N!|mb|p|mb|3C!|mb|p|mb|3D!|mb|p|mb|3H!|an|2-4-3-4; 6-7zz points|nt|ahollan1: i think 3@C a) 4@H333 b) 4@H 4@C|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i heard that the relay structure comes from system called "Zerth"|pg|| mb|p|mb|3S!|mb|p|mb|3N!|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s2|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|c4|pg|| nt|ahollan1: stopping on the dime at 3N just seems weird to me|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|c9|pc|c5|pg|| nt|ahollan1: but i don't know all of grue's options after west shape was known|pg|| mc|13|pg|| qx|c14|st||md|4SJT943HJ9DT32C754,SA5HAT65D654CQJT3,S876HKQ874D98CK86,SKQ2H32DAKQJ7CA92|sv|o|nt|danmathies: nicely done|pg|| nt|ahollan2: that is just wrong|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: no reasons to have a result at one table if it is not going to be played at the other|pg|| mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|danmathies: more action|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan2: 2N = 19-20|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 3@C = modified puppet stayman|pg|| nt|kit: Looks clear for West to drive this to slam -- those 10's in the long suits help the chances a lot.|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 3N = no interest in majors|pg|| mb|4H!|nt|kit: He will be searching for a 4-4 club fit if he can find it -- don't know their methods here.|pg|| nt|ahollan2: meckwell not playing Muppet Stayman -- but their own modification|pg|| nt|kit: I guess he could just bid 5NT pick a slam and see if East bids 6@C|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: Apparently this shows 4 clubs and slam interest (or better)|pg|| nt|kit: If so, not clear what East should do. Not a great fit, but starting with 5 likely diamond tricks is very nice.|pg|| mb|6D|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: i have seen where 4M showed 5 of corresponding minor with 4m = 4|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|phil: his hand is very prime as well |pg|| nt|ahollan2: still one more set of 15 boards to play|pg|| nt|kit: On the likely spade lead, won't need the club finesse.|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s5|pc|s8|pc|sK|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|d8|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|d9|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dT|pc|d6|pc|h4|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|s4|pc|h5|pc|h8|pg|| nt|phil: after trump and a spade to the King, a club hook isn't 'free'. South could hold up, win the 2nd and lock declarer in dummy with a heart|pg|| nt|kit: He can cross to dummy to take the club finesse, but he won't dare repeat is since South might win the king and obliterate dummy with a heart shift|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|c4|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c7|pc|cT|pc|cK|pg|| nt|ritong: so the exact play is go to dummy and play a @c to the 9|pg|| nt|kit: As proven -- can't imagine he was even thinking of it.|pg|| mc|12|nt|ahollan2: we sure have seen some interesting boards this set|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: Meck calling for the director to see if they get bd 15|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: other table on 13|pg|| nt|phil: they are 2:30 into this segment? |pg|| nt|ahollan2: moss just finishing up 13|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 4@H +1 = push on 13|pg|| nt|kit: Probably won't let them play board 15|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: we do have 15 now but a couple of players are out of the room|pg|| pg|| qx|o15|st||md|1SQ954HKQJT4D65C73,ST863H76DAQ84CQ82,SA72HA52D973CKT54,SKJH983DKJT2CAJ96|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D!|an|2+!d|mb|1H|mb|d|an|4!s|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N!|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|nt|danmathies: last board likely a push|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|h8|pg|| nt|vugraphzff: 2@h usually suite preference|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|d3|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c7|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d6|pc|d4|pc|d7|pg|| mc|10|nt|vugraphzff: We will resume after a brief break |pg|| nt|ahollan1: short break then final hopefully 15 boards|pg|| pg|| qx|c15|st||md|1SQ954HKQJT4D65C73,ST863H76DAQ84CQ82,SA72HA52D973CKT54,SKJH983DKJT2CAJ96|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|nt|Vugraphzfg: Meck jokingthat after all this, they may pass it out|pg|| mb|1H|mb|d|nt|MrAce: other table did not bid the slam |pg|| nt|ahollan2: 14 grue-moss stop at 3N|pg|| mb|2D!|nt|eamongall: In Euros 2012 Mesbur Fitzgibbon were still finishing 2nd match of day ireland v Ukraine(I think) when most other teams were sitting down for match 3 |pg|| mb|2N!|an|minors, fewer than 10 cards|nt|eamongall: but other team got fined |pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan2: 1@D = 11-15, 2+@D // DBL = exactly 4@S|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|h8|pg|| nt|ahollan2: open room starting 15 final segment begins after they finish and short break|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h7|pc|h5|pc|h9|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|d4|pc|hA|pg|| nt|ritong: normal toplay a @s to the K|pg|| nt|ritong: because, after passing, when south has shown @h KQ, if he has @s A he won t have @c K|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| nt|ritong: on the other hand, knowing the @c layout helps for tackling @ss:)|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|ritong: or not|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|sK|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dT|pc|hJ|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s7|pc|c6|pc|s5|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|c7|pg|| mc|9|nt|Vugraphzfg: back soon|pg|| nt|ritong: so i prefer my version uptrick at stake anyway small deal|pg|| pg||