vg|2018 Vanderbilt FINAL,Segment 2 of 4,I,16,30,Nickell,0,Fleisher,56| rs|4SS-2,4SSx-2,6CE-1,4SE+1,2SE+1,4HW-1,4SW-1,4SW=,2DE+1,3NW=,4HE+1,4HE+1,3CS+1,3NS=,4HW-2,5CE=,4SW=,4SW=,4HN-1,4HN+1,4SN=,4SN=,3SW-1,2CS+1,2SN+1,2DN+3,4SN-1,2SN+1,4HS=,4HN+1| pn|Nickell,Martel,Katz,Fleisher,Hampson,Meckstroth,Greco,Rodwell|pg|| qx|o16|st||md|2SAQJT873H95D9875C,SK65HAJ86DKT6CK93,S92HT3DA432CAJT54,S4HKQ742DQJCQ8762|sv|e|mb|1C!|an|2+|mb|2C|an|clubs|mb|2D|an|!hs|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|fuquay: 4@H is hopeless but 3N is an interesting contract EW|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@C = 2+@C // 2@C = nat |pg|| nt|vugraphzff: Katz asked whether Martel's pass was forcing and Fleisher said "I think NF but not sure"|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: i did not know EW had adopted transfers in comp|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|nt|vugraphzff: Fleisher: "I always think third hand" (Nickell called the heart very quickly)|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|h9|pg|| pc|s4|nt|ahollan1: EW 1N range nv: 1/2/3 = 14-16 otherwise 15-17|pg|| pc|s3|nt|ahollan1: meck opened west 1N = 14-16|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s9|pc|c2|pc|sA|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c16|st||md|2SAQJT873H95D9875C,SK65HAJ86DKT6CK93,S92HT3DA432CAJT54,S4HKQ742DQJCQ8762|sv|e|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|h9|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|h5|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d5|pc|d6|nt|ahollan2: both pairs 1N = 1/2/3nv: 14-16 3v/4: 15-17|pg|| pc|dA|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|d7|pc|c3|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s4|pc|s3|nt|kit: hi everybody|pg|| mc|8|nt|ahollan2: martel 1N vul needs 15-17 so he opened 1@C|pg|| pg|| qx|o17|st||md|3S4HT8DA9876543CQ6,SAT7HQ9654DKCAJ72,SQJ32HK73DQJT2C54,SK9865HAJ2DCKT983|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|Harmon: hi all|pg|| nt|fuquay: Hi|pg|| mb|3D|mb|d|mb|4D|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: meck jumped to 4@S opposite limited 1@S opener that ended the auction|pg|| mb|5D|mb|p|nt|fuquay: Could this be played undoubled?|pg|| mb|p|mb|6C|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: seems martel plays his pass as forcing|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|medwards: Action in the pit|pg|| nt|fuquay: He had only committed to the 3 level|pg|| nt|ritong: hi everyone:)|pg|| nt|Harmon: Heneri!!!|pg|| pc|dA|nt|ahollan1: @CQ likely to score a trick on this auction|pg|| nt|ahollan1: maybe not if learn @S 4-1|pg|| nt|fuquay: GIB makes this hand but I am not sure who else does|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dQ|pc|c3|pg|| nt|ritong: just takes the @c guess|pg|| nt|ahollan1: just one peek -- that's all i need -- one peek|pg|| nt|chorush: Both the heart position and the club position must be guessed|pg|| nt|fuquay: You need to see @H and @C|pg|| nt|ritong: well south has 8@ds, if we trust the auction|pg|| nt|fuquay: But if "one peek" means seeing one defender's hand, then I agree :)|pg|| nt|ahollan1: yep just one peek at either defender hand|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|fuquay: If @CQ is interchanged with @SQ --- then E played correctly|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s7|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pg|| pc|s5|pc|d3|pc|sA|nt|ritong: if south indeed has 8@ds as i suspect, and, for some reason i guess the @cs, afterwards i will find out south has 1@s, thus 2@hs|pg|| pc|s2|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|hJ|pc|h8|pg|| pc|s6|pc|d4|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c17|st||md|3S4HT8DA9876543CQ6,SAT7HQ9654DKCAJ72,SQJ32HK73DQJT2C54,SK9865HAJ2DCKT983|sv|o|nt|ahollan2: Nickell in 4@S undoubled|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|mb|3D|nt|kit: Seems like West has simple 4@S call, and North has to decide what to do.|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: 1@S = 10-15 // 4@S = wide range|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dK|nt|kit: If North had saved, I would judge that declarer would have guessed the diamonds correctly.|pg|| nt|ahollan2: there is voice commentary at this table|pg|| nt|MrAce: 6@C looks good contract dd but if reached I am sure @CQ in S will score in this auction|pg|| pc|dT|nt|kit: 6@C doesn't look so good to me -- even if they get the clubs right, don't they have a loser in each major?|pg|| nt|kit: Unless guess an end-play correctly.|pg|| nt|MrAce: not in @H, as i mentioned dd|pg|| nt|ahollan2: opposite unlimited opener martel starts with DBL and katz raises to 4@D|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sJ|nt|kit: Meanwhile, this 4@S contract is not at all cold|pg|| pc|s6|pc|d4|pg|| nt|ahollan2: fleisher pass and nickell ups the ante to 5@D|pg|| nt|MrAce: nice duck by Rodwell|pg|| nt|kit: Diamond continuation will set up a second trump trick for defense, so better get the clubs right|pg|| nt|kit: As otherwise will get tapped out.|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|d3|pc|s7|pg|| nt|MrAce: after seeing S with stiff @S, i think he will get the clubs right|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 17 other room bidding 1@S-3@D-DBL-4@D//P-5@D-P-P//6@C-end|pg|| nt|kit: This is same position.-- if declarer gets clubs wrong, he goes down.|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|hJ|pc|h8|pg|| nt|MrAce: @HA will solve|pg|| nt|MrAce: the shape of S |pg|| pc|sK|pc|d5|pc|c2|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cQ|nt|kit: Not sure I understand the heart finesse. Seems like it risks contract, when just getting clubs right would be enough.|pg|| nt|MrAce: not that he has any other option |pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o18|st||md|4ST753HK9DAJT96CT2,SAHJ8652DQ74CAK86,S94HQT7DK85CQJ743,SKQJ862HA43D32C95|sv|n|nt|medwards: IIt only took two boards to start the come back|pg|| nt|ritong: south has 8@ds because he self raised his 3@d preempt at equal vul|pg|| nt|ahollan1: nickell shut out in Q1 but picks upon 1st 2 boards of Q2|pg|| mb|2S|nt|ahollan1: 2@S = constructive 8-11|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: open 2@D to show weak 2@H or really weak 2@S|pg|| pc|cT|nt|ahollan1: meckstroth in 4@H west|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c5|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|h9|pg|| nt|fuquay: Did Eric open 1@S?|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|h5|pc|s9|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s7|pc|h6|pc|c4|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sT|nt|fuquay: Yes|pg|| pc|h8|pc|d5|pg|| pc|s8|nt|ahollan1: auto 1@S for big clubbers|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|hJ|nt|ahollan1: and anyone not playing constructive 2s|pg|| pc|c7|pg|| nt|fuquay: Give credit to Fleisher-Martel for staying out of game here|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|s6|pc|d6|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d8|pg|| pc|hK|mc|9|pg|| qx|c18|st||md|4ST753HK9DAJT96CT2,SAHJ8652DQ74CAK86,S94HQT7DK85CQJ743,SKQJ862HA43D32C95|sv|n|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|kit: And if heart finesse loses, he gets tapped and is down -- unless I am missing something.|pg|| nt|MrAce: other table ended up in 6@C, let's see if they will make it|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|nt|ahollan2: 1@S = 10-15|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N!|mb|p|mb|3H!|nt|ahollan2: 2@S = 6+@C|pg|| mb|p|nt|MrAce: I suspect other table assumed it would be bid at this table due to the state of match, but if so they were wrong this time. |pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: Both 4@H and 4@S lookd doomen -- although 4@S might have chances on heart-club squeeze.|pg|| mb|p|pc|cQ|pc|c5|nt|ahollan2: fleisher misguessed @C on 17|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cA|pg|| nt|kit: And now 4@H has chances, as can pitch diamond on spade while long hand ruffs.|pg|| nt|MrAce: as i said, not easy after 3@D overcall|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|s5|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|h9|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 6@C down 1|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s3|nt|kit: But not good enough, as North can then cross to diamond, and a fourth spade promotes|pg|| pc|d7|pc|s9|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sT|pc|d4|pc|hT|pg|| nt|kit: Which shouldn't be a heart defense to find.|pg|| nt|warrens: Defense needs to get 2@s ruffs now to beat it|pg|| nt|ahollan2: nickell shut out in Q1 but picks upon 1st 2 boards of Q2|pg|| nt|kit: When declarer didn't play king of hearts then heart to ace, the reason has to be that he doesn't have king of hearts.|pg|| nt|kit: So the hand should be an open book for North|pg|| nt|warrens: Yes, but Hampson has the King. He has to hope his partner has the Q. Which diamond should Greco play?|pg|| nt|warrens: I like the 8.|pg|| nt|kit: Yes, leading the 8 denying the king is a nice play|pg|| nt|kit: But I think Hampson would get it right anyway.|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d2|nt|kit: Since hampson has 5 diamonds.|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|kit: Anyway, nice play by Greco.|pg|| pc|s7|pc|c6|pc|hQ|pc|s6|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o19|st||md|1ST52H86DJ642CAQT3,SQJ94HJ5DAKQTCJ62,SK6HAQT42D93C9854,SA873HK973D875CK7|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1C|nt|ahollan1: 1@C = 2+|pg|| nt|ritong: chipwill bid 2@spresumably|pg|| mb|1H|mb|d|nt|ahollan1: 2nd hand this set where martel opens 1@C when his 1N range 15-17 vs meckstroth 14-16|pg|| nt|ritong: four trumps realatively good hand|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|nt|ahollan1: DBL = 4+@S|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@S = 4-fit|pg|| nt|ritong: then marty has a decision|pg|| mb|p|nt|ritong: perhaps mitch/mitch with 3@h|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ritong: nah no "mitch mitch":)|pg|| mb|p|pc|d9|nt|fuquay: The key to making this is to play @S for 0 losers|pg|| nt|ahollan1: long dicussion in other room - written & voice about whether north should cover with @SK on 1st round of the suit|pg|| nt|ahollan1: conclusion is absolutely for not being sure|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|dT|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|s2|pg|| nt|ritong: @s5 slightly better|pg|| nt|ahollan1: one commentator said jeff rubens analysis said north should always cover|pg|| nt|fuquay: With this lead be may not be down even if misguesses|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h6|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s4|pc|h4|pc|s7|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|c7|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c19|st||md|1ST52H86DJ642CAQT3,SQJ94HJ5DAKQTCJ62,SK6HAQT42D93C9854,SA873HK973D875CK7|sv|e|nt|kit: E-W stopped in 2@S at other table, so pickup for Fleisher.|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: 1N = 14-16|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c5|nt|kit: This is a push 4@S, which may take a good spade guess|pg|| nt|MrAce: losing 2@C+1@H and will have to guess @S to make it|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pg|| nt|kit: Martel-Fleisher play 15-17 vul, so they probably won't be in game.|pg|| nt|MrAce: in order to guess wrong N needs to not cover first @S though |pg|| pc|d6|nt|MrAce: unless he plays him for KT tide|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|d5|pg|| nt|ahollan2: can't cover also induce misguess?|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| nt|MrAce: now they are playing double spy on each other |pg|| nt|ahollan2: meck absolutely certain that @S10 held by one of the defenders|pg|| nt|kit: This is always a difficult situation. Should North have covered? If he doesn't cover, South may decide to pin 10-doubleton|pg|| nt|MrAce: yes|pg|| nt|kit: But South may think that North has K10 doubleton since North did cover|pg|| nt|ahollan2: voice commentary crediting jeff rubens with analysis that says north should always cover|pg|| nt|kit: Note that declarer doesn't have the spots to pick up the suit if North has stiff king -- but North can't know that.|pg|| nt|phil: the defense cannot see the 9, so North will cover with all holdings, right? |pg|| nt|MrAce: with KT he will always cover, with Kx he may or he may not...so tuff |pg|| pc|s8|pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|s6|pg|| nt|MrAce: also with stiff K he will always cover|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|sJ|nt|ahollan2: just isn't fair to guess right so often|pg|| pc|h4|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c8|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|d7|pg|| nt|kit: Not clear North will cover with Kx since can't see 9. Sout with 109x would of course make mandatory falsoecard, and declarer might play for 109 doubleton.|pg|| pc|dQ|mc|10|pg|| qx|o20|st||md|2SQJ764H53DAKC8432,SAKT92HT6D985CK95,S8HKQJ4DT43CQJT76,S53HA9872DQJ762CA|sv|b|nt|ritong: possible catch in 1@s here|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|nt|ritong: unless katz refuses|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@H usually not 4@S|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|ritong: ralph does not cooperate indeed(with west's plan)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|nt|ritong: double does notmean " i m sure they are dead here" it means " i had a penalty pass over 1@s"|pg|| mb|2C|mb|2D|nt|ritong: so far everyone does the job|pg|| nt|fuquay: I assume S will bid 3@C|pg|| nt|ritong: which, of course, consists in doing what the commentators predict:)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|fuquay: Nickell did not do his job :)|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i defy anyone to explain either the bidding or defense from closed room|pg|| nt|ritong: nick is a tad undisciplined now and then:)|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d4|nt|fuquay: But they must have a nine card fit |pg|| pc|d2|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|d3|pc|d6|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|cT|pc|cA|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|ahollan1: why must it be 9-card fit?|pg|| pc|c2|pc|d9|pc|dT|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg|| nt|ritong: because north likely has 5 of them|pg|| pc|c9|nt|fuquay: and S has four and 5+4 = 9|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|d7|pc|c4|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|sT|nt|ritong: you re in great shape, greg|pg|| pc|c6|pg|| nt|ahollan1: sorry trying to get you to say why north likely 5@C rather than 4@C and hand that is running|pg|| mc|9|nt|ahollan1: my guess would be RDBL if only 4@C|pg|| nt|ritong: why would he escape 1NT with 4 @cs?|pg|| pg|| qx|c20|st||md|2SQJ764H53DAKC8432,SAKT92HT6D985CK95,S8HKQJ4DT43CQJT76,S53HA9872DQJ762CA|sv|b|nt|kit: As I said, it is a tricky situation with no clear answer.|pg|| nt|phil: yes, if North ducks. South obviously won't falsecard with T9x after a cover|pg|| nt|MrAce: good point Kit|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|phil: Kit is there a case for leading the Jack instead of the Queen? |pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|kit: I don't see any difference|pg|| nt|MrAce: that is what i was wondering Phil|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3H|nt|MrAce: 2@H is weak or 2 suiter?|pg|| nt|phil: well, it seems you *want* a cover. And the J is less likely to fetch K. But there are head games involved|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|nt|kit: This 2@H opening looks quite out of character for Rodwell -- may be affected by score and momentum going his way.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: unless it shows more than I think.|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c5|pg|| nt|kit: Was suggested that West opened 1@S, which makes a lot more sense.|pg|| nt|MrAce: perhaps operator missed 1@S by Meck ? |pg|| nt|ahollan2: 19 katz did not cover @SQ|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: no|pg|| nt|ahollan2: martel tried to pin doubleton 10|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|d3|pg|| nt|kit: At other table on previous board the queen of spades wasn't covered, and declarer got it wrong.|pg|| nt|ahollan2: but martel got lead of @D so he has 4 winners in that suit|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|h2|pg|| nt|kit: That isn't enough to help him.|pg|| nt|kit: Declarer has no real play for this contract, unless clubs are 6-3. Even 5 spade tricks won't be enough.|pg|| nt|ahollan2: i don't recall seeing this auction before|pg|| nt|kit: As we said, we think West opened 1@S.|pg|| nt|ahollan2: oh thanks kit - i missed that|pg|| nt|phil: VG said that wasn't the case|pg|| nt|kit: After which auctions makes sense.|pg|| pc|hK|nt|kit: Unless they play some very unusual 2@H opening in third seat, that is the only explanation I can think of.|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h6|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|s8|pg|| nt|phil: 2H makes a *little* sense to me. 2N is plain bizarre|pg|| nt|kit: I think the VG operator just missed it.|pg|| nt|kit: Declarer has to guess the diamonds to get out for down 1. |pg|| nt|kit: N-S can make a part-score in clubs, so down 1 isn't so terrible|pg|| nt|phil: its clear where the @d honors are from the bidding. I don't know NS signaling lethods and what the 2 implies|pg|| nt|ahollan2: anyone surprised that open room did not duplicate this auction?|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pg|| nt|kit: I don't see any reason he should get diamonds right|pg|| nt|phil: cc says the play suit pref at T2 in lieu of Smith |pg|| nt|MrAce: except than cover|pg|| nt|kit: Well, if 9 is covered then I see reason|pg|| nt|kit: But why did North cover the 9?|pg|| nt|kit: North may have missed declarer playing 8 on first round of diamonds.|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|h7|pg|| pc|sA|pc|h4|pc|s5|nt|phil: oh my|pg|| nt|MrAce: he can even make now|pg|| pc|s4|pg|| nt|kit: Yikes -- now it is making!|pg|| nt|MrAce: wow|pg|| mc|9|nt|kit: South totally lost the thread.|pg|| pg|| qx|o21|st||md|3SAJ74HJ52D842CQT2,SQ6HKQ84DJ6CKJ874,S853HT9DQT973CA53,SKT92HA763DAK5C96|sv|n|nt|ahollan1: escape with 1@S |pg|| nt|ritong: yes, so pass or redouble with a four cards suit|pg|| nt|ahollan1: there ya go|pg|| nt|fuquay: Sorry, I didn't realize you were just being an interviewer giving me easy questions ")|pg|| nt|ritong: :)|pg|| nt|ahollan1: socratic method :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|nt|ritong: i do not think martel has any reason to bid @cs|pg|| nt|ritong: except to inquire about @hs|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1N = 14-16|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d2|nt|ritong: there was big swing in a previous round when levin bypassed @cs when jansma did not|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|c3|pg|| nt|ritong: naturally opener had not shown four cards in responder's four carder|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cT|nt|fuquay: Katz would have made things easier for E if he had played @CA on first round|pg|| nt|ritong: here, bidding 3@c before 4@h would show a slam try|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| nt|fuquay: With @C 3-3 there will not be a problem here|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|d6|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|hT|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c5|nt|fuquay: E has nice @S spots but there are entry problems for trying to set up @S|pg|| pc|h6|pc|cQ|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c21|st||md|3SAJ74HJ52D842CQT2,SQ6HKQ84DJ6CKJ874,S853HT9DQT973CA53,SKT92HA763DAK5C96|sv|n|nt|ahollan2: 20 fleisher in 2@D|pg|| nt|MrAce: no wonder they used to call this pair "killing imp machine" :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: 14-16|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|4H|nt|phil: interesting. i would have expected 2N (puppet) by Meck|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|MrAce: this looks flat board|pg|| nt|kit: Finally, what looks like a tame board.|pg|| mb|p|pc|d2|nt|phil: should be but on 4-2 clubs this could be challenging |pg|| nt|MrAce: why would you expect that Phil?|pg|| nt|kit: Declarer has a little work to do, but with both hearts and clubs splitting it will be easy.|pg|| nt|MrAce: i mean puppet |pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg|| nt|phil: because West just has a garden variety hand - all he wants to know is if partner has 4 hearts|pg|| nt|phil: although I do not know their inferences from *not* playing puppet|pg|| nt|MrAce: i still did not understand you, if all he needs to find is whether E has 4+@H or not, what was wrong with 2@C? |pg|| nt|kit: seems normal to make the club play at trick 2.|pg|| nt|phil: because one of the main reasons of playing 2N (or 3C) puppet is not to reveal anything about declarer's hand when you discover you dont have a 44 fit|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|h9|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sT|nt|kit: And now 11 tricks will b easy.|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|s2|pg|| nt|kit: South will drop the queen of clubs under the king, as it is the card he is known to hold.|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|d3|pc|h6|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|cT|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c5|pc|h7|pc|cQ|pg|| mc|11|nt|kit: This is remarkably careless by South. He knows better. Looks like fatigue.|pg|| pg|| qx|o22|st||md|4SAKJH75DK82CQ7654,S8752HAJT98DAJ7C8,S943HK2DQ653CAK32,SQT6HQ643DT94CJT9|sv|e|mb|p|nt|fuquay: That is the first push board of the set|pg|| mb|1C|mb|1H|mb|2H|nt|ritong: better find 3NT, here|pg|| mb|d|nt|ritong: 5@c being way inferior|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ritong: in between|pg|| nt|fuquay: 3N depended on the @S finesse (which was on)|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|c9|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cT|pc|c5|pc|h8|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|s2|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h7|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|sJ|pc|s5|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 3rd hand this set where difference in 1N range has made a difference|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c22|st||md|4SAKJH75DK82CQ7654,S8752HAJT98DAJ7C8,S943HK2DQ653CAK32,SQT6HQ643DT94CJT9|sv|e|nt|kit: Not a big deal on that hand, of course, but it should be routine|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: 14-16|pg|| mb|3C!|mb|p|mb|3D!|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: I don't think the South hand is worth this upgrade. No spots. AKJ is not really worth 8 points.|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hK|nt|kit: However, 3NT is normal, would be reached anyway, and with both major-suit finesses on it makes|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h5|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|c4|pc|c8|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pc|d7|pg|| nt|kit: Now will cash one high spade just in case, cross to club, and take spade finesse.|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 3@C = puppet styman // 3@D = not 5@H/@S [nothing about 4-card major]|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|s6|pg|| pc|c5|pc|dJ|nt|kit: At other table N-S stopped in 3@C -- right in theory, but not in practice this time.|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|sJ|mc|9|nt|kit: So Fleisher will get some IMPs back.|pg|| pg|| qx|o23|st||md|1SQ8732HJ8D9743C85,SAT9H65DAJT5CQ976,S65HAK43DKQ862CT3,SKJ4HQT972DCAKJ42|sv|b|nt|ahollan1: always with other table using 14-16 but our table needing stronger hand|pg|| nt|ritong: imo the difference essentially comes from marty's decision not to raise @hs|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1D|mb|d|nt|ritong: not that it is ultra clear to raise with queens up, but he had four trumps|pg|| nt|ritong: and a 3@h bid would more or less force them into 3NT|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@C = 2+@C // DBL = 4+@H|pg|| pc|dK|pc|s4|nt|fuquay: If they were going to play 4@H, it was better to do it from W side |pg|| pc|d3|pc|dA|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|hT|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|d4|nt|fuquay: To keep from having to ruff too many @D|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|h2|pg|| nt|ahollan1: rodwell playing 5@C|pg|| nt|ritong: 5@c would have been less fragile|pg|| nt|fuquay: However, @D will keep declarer from drawing all the trump|pg|| nt|ritong: no, i am not peeking other table just rebounding on greg's point, who said "if they were going to play 4@h", undersaying an other place to play is possible|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h8|pc|h5|pc|hK|pg|| pc|d2|nt|ritong: sry pv|pg|| pc|c2|pc|d7|pc|dT|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg|| pc|h7|pc|d9|pc|c6|pc|hA|pg|| pc|d8|pc|h9|pc|s3|pc|d5|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|c8|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c23|st||md|1SQ8732HJ8D9743C85,SAT9H65DAJT5CQ976,S65HAK43DKQ862CT3,SKJ4HQT972DCAKJ42|sv|b|nt|phil: in a sense, 3N only needs one more card in the right place than 3@c|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: 22 nickell playing 3@C where hampson made 3N|pg|| nt|kit: 3NT looks best, but would have to diagnose that West has stiff in diamonds.|pg|| nt|kit: However, 5@C is okay also, although takes a little work.|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|nt|kit: I guess this is 5-5 GF.|pg|| mb|4C|nt|kit: Now West can bid 3@D to show the concentration|pg|| nt|phil: Meck looks very prime for clubs|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 1@d = 11-15, 2+@D // 1N = NOT 4@S|pg|| nt|kit: Maybe 3@C shows slam interest|pg|| mb|p|mb|4D!|mb|p|mb|5C|nt|kit: It would still take a pretty perfect hand in West for slam to be good|pg|| nt|ahollan2: i think 3@C just guarantees 55, FG|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: This is trouble. I think 4@D is RKC for clubs|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: 4@D RKC in @C|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 0314 responses|pg|| pc|s2|nt|kit: But then why did East stop? Possibly because there were 6 key-cards on this auction.|pg|| pc|s9|nt|kit: Anyway, they did well, and the spade lead makes it very easy.|pg|| pc|s5|nt|phil: move the @dA to hearts and slam is playable. |pg|| nt|MrAce: yes|pg|| nt|ahollan2: assumed the 2 aces included @DA|pg|| nt|kit: With 6 keycards, the king of hearts is also counted as a keycard.|pg|| nt|kit: So from East's point of view, he needed his partner to have 3 keycards and the queen of trumps. I'm just guessing, b|pg|| nt|kit: But otherwise, I wouldn't understand why East quit.|pg|| nt|phil: "Turbo" is becoming more and more popular, especially when our suit is a minor. This is a good hand for it. |pg|| nt|kit: And it is logical for the king of hearts to be counted as a keycard on this auction.|pg|| nt|ahollan2: not sure if meckwell have any DKC [double keycard] auctions but fleisher-martel have many|pg|| nt|kit: Well, if they do have double keycard auctions, this would sure figure to be one of them.|pg|| nt|ahollan2: martel playing 4@H west|pg|| nt|MrAce: other table in 4@H and i think they are going down |pg|| nt|kit: Looks that way -- getting fored in diamonds. If so, another game swing to Nickell.|pg|| nt|ahollan2: fleisher showed @H via transfer nickell-katz competed in @D|pg|| pc|s4|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c8|pc|c7|pc|cT|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o24|st||md|2SAT3HJ43DQJT974C9,SKJ86HK9DAK2CK752,S5H8652D85CAT8643,SQ9742HAQT7D63CQJ|sv|o|nt|ritong: clearly 4@s here, maybe 5|pg|| nt|fuquay: The lead is now down to 17 (from 56 when the set started)|pg|| nt|ritong: five level unsafe with that @c ruff|pg|| nt|fuquay: And the hands are strong enough that EW may sniff slam|pg|| nt|ritong: on the other hand they do not have the material to venture too high, i guess|pg|| nt|ritong: marty has not mucho facing a strong NT|pg|| nt|fuquay: But I think EW play 14-16 nonvul|pg|| nt|ritong: however, chip might show more than 14/16, and if so....danger|pg|| nt|fuquay: Are they taking a break?|pg|| nt|ritong: imho, fleisher should dislike his hand|pg|| nt|vugraphzff: yes, Nickell was in the bathroom|pg|| mb|1C|mb|p|nt|ritong: stiff honors, poor trumps|pg|| mb|1H|nt|fuquay: 3@D maybe?|pg|| mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|ritong: but i have observed that he sometimes find a pair of pink spectacles, nobody gets why:)|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@C = 2+@C // 1@H = 4+@S|pg|| nt|ahollan1: EW do NOT play any form of reverse flannery|pg|| mb|3N|nt|ritong: they likely have a way to express a light desire of slam without imposing it|pg|| mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4H|nt|ahollan1: 3@S = 4-fit, 17-19, no shortness|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 3N relay // 4@C = non-min, not 5@C/@D|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ritong: fine nicely done|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d3|pc|d9|pc|dA|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sA|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cJ|pc|s3|pc|c2|pg|| nt|ritong: both rooms in 4@s, not 5 good bridge|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c24|st||md|2SAT3HJ43DQJT974C9,SKJ86HK9DAK2CK752,S5H8652D85CAT8643,SQ9742HAQT7D63CQJ|sv|o|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1H|an|!|nt|ahollan2: 1@C = 16+unbal or 17+BAL|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 1@H = FG a) 5+@S b) BAL, 11-13|pg|| mb|2D|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: surprised greco did not overall 2@C??|pg|| nt|phil: or 3|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: Back to what looks like a flat board in 4@S.|pg|| mb|2H!|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: 23 4@H down 2 nickell set 51-12|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|nt|phil: a 56 IMP lead is now 17. And there are still 7 boards left in the Q. |pg|| mb|4H!|nt|MrAce: still 2.5 sets to go |pg|| nt|kit: Yes. It shows just how fast IMP can swing, and why one should never give up.|pg|| mb|p|nt|phil: the five level is NOT safe here|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d8|nt|kit: True, but with West being minimal they really weren't going any higher.|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d9|pc|dA|pg|| nt|phil: right|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sA|pg|| nt|MrAce: which reminds me some of the comments made to me about the match being over when i logged in the last board of previous set. It ain't over b4 it's over.|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|cJ|pg|| nt|kit: Although there may be danger at other table, with West in 17-19 range., |pg|| pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|s3|pc|c2|pg|| nt|phil: also, note these boards aren't particularly 'swingy'. Just a lot of close decisions and Nickell has been on the correct side of nearly all of them|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d6|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o25|st||md|3ST9653H3DKT94CAJ9,SJ4H542DQJ753CQ72,SQ72HAKQJ87D6CK53,SAK8HT96DA82CT864|sv|e|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|3H|nt|fuquay: NS play flannery, so I assume that 1@S showed five|pg|| mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|d6|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sT|pc|h2|pc|s2|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c25|st||md|3ST9653H3DKT94CAJ9,SJ4H542DQJ753CQ72,SQ72HAKQJ87D6CK53,SAK8HT96DA82CT864|sv|e|mb|1C!|mb|p|nt|MrAce: wasn't previous set similar, Phil? I did not get to watch so...|pg|| mb|1S!|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: 1@C =16+unbal or 17+BAL // 1@S = 8+hcp, FG, 5+@S|pg|| nt|phil: in a sense|pg|| nt|MrAce: k|pg|| nt|kit: Looks like normal 4@H contract, which can go down with spade ruff|pg|| nt|ahollan2: even without @CJ very common to show positive with AK|pg|| nt|kit: But other games like 3NT or 4@S do better.|pg|| nt|MrAce: how about 4@S? |pg|| mb|2C!|nt|MrAce: yes|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|phil: 4S handles poorly. |pg|| nt|kit: Still, in general AKQJxx is called trumps.|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 2@C = 5+@H|pg|| nt|MrAce: 3@S now? |pg|| nt|ahollan2: not sure about the reply structure|pg|| nt|kit: Difficult for North to see how spades might be any better contract than hearts.|pg|| nt|MrAce: but i think S will like 3 NT more than 4@S contract|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|MrAce: hmm|pg|| nt|phil: needs a pointed Ace lead to beat right? |pg|| nt|kit: I'm surprised aboout the raise on a small singleton -- seems like if that is all partner needs, he can get to 4@H himself.|pg|| nt|phil: maybe he is paranoid about spades in 3N? |pg|| nt|kit: East has no clue that declarer has 3 spades on the auctiion, so might not lead spade|pg|| nt|kit: Still, it seems like putting down one high spade can't cost.|pg|| nt|kit: As he can see the dummy, partner's signal, and would likely then know what to do.|pg|| nt|phil: the club looks like the reflex lead here. But a spade doesnt seem to cost - unless the defense needs to build a club trick |pg|| nt|MrAce: the reflex lead seems to me @SA or K |pg|| nt|MrAce: but my leads suck :)|pg|| nt|kit: I believe E-W play standard signals on ace opening lead, so would have no problem getting this one right.|pg|| pc|sA|nt|MrAce: i think J of @S will do it |pg|| nt|MrAce: unless they play udca on first lead|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg|| nt|kit: hmm -- I didn't expect that|pg|| nt|kit: I really thought they played standard on ace lead -- guess not.|pg|| nt|phil: even their cc says standard when lead shows AK|pg|| nt|MrAce: then this lead did not promise AK |pg|| nt|kit: in that case, I have no idea why West didn't play jack.|pg|| nt|MrAce: that is all i can think of|pg|| nt|kit: How can East not have king of spades for this lead?|pg|| nt|MrAce: or W decided to differ from their agreement for some reason as Kit says|pg|| nt|kit: I am baffled. And for East, club shift has attraction.|pg|| pc|c8|nt|MrAce: there ya go |pg|| nt|kit: And there it is -- so nice pickup for Fleisher.|pg|| nt|phil: kib says they only signal standard when Q in dummy|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c7|pc|c3|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|s5|nt|kit: It is scary that such an experienced partnership gets this one wrong.|pg|| pc|h4|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hT|pc|s6|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|phil: scary, but at the same time gives us all hope :)|pg|| pc|c4|pc|d4|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|d5|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sJ|mc|11|pg|| qx|o26|st||md|4S97542HKQ8DT7CKJ2,SJT3H97DAK82C8763,SAKQ86HT643D43CAQ,SHAJ52DQJ965CT954|sv|b|nt|ritong: even martel has to be cocooned good @d A|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 25 i wonder if nickell criticized fleisher for lead of @SK since @SA would allow him to call Wish Trick|pg|| nt|ritong: :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|d|nt|fuquay: EW have a (somewhat) profitable save against 4@S |pg|| nt|ritong: don t see chip sticking his neck in|pg|| nt|ritong: perhaps if forced|pg|| nt|ritong: to|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|nt|ritong: or trying to help lead|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dQ|nt|ahollan1: 3N = good raise to 4M does not set forcing pass|pg|| nt|fuquay: I was asked on the last hand why S did not bid 3N rather than 4@H. I am not sure, but I am wondering if he was afraid of @S losers|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d2|pc|d3|pg|| nt|ritong: valid question indeed|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|c4|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sK|pc|d9|pc|s9|pc|sT|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|dJ|pc|s7|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|h6|mc|10|pg|| qx|c26|st||md|4S97542HKQ8DT7CKJ2,SJT3H97DAK82C8763,SAKQ86HT643D43CAQ,SHAJ52DQJ965CT954|sv|b|nt|MrAce: may be..just may be...Meck thought Rodwell had 4 or more @S and due to his @H spots he wanted to discourage Eric to attemp for a promotion? I dunno |pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: 1@S = 10-15 doesn't look like upgrade to me|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: was he thinking about sick 1N?|pg|| mb|2C!|mb|p|nt|kit: South hand worth an invite, so easy 4@S.|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 2@C = drury|pg|| nt|MrAce: yup|pg|| nt|ahollan2: fleisher bid DBL over 1@S|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: East has normal diamond lead, so will just be needing ace of hearts onside, which it is.|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|ahollan2: nickell conventionally bid 3N to show good raise to 4@S|pg|| nt|phil: it seems North is too good for 4@s - imagine heart shortness across|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d2|pc|d4|pg|| nt|kit: Keep in mind they open light, so slam would really be a push -- |pg|| nt|kit: And they likely have ways for South to show splinter|pg|| nt|ahollan2: guessing NS have mechanism where passed hand can show [some] splinter rather than going thru drury|pg|| nt|MrAce: Phil, do you really think S would be coming from pass with @H shortage + AK @D and @CK the way they open? |pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dT|pc|d8|pc|d3|pg|| nt|ahollan2: drury actually reverse-drury fit is bid for passed hand to show good raise of partner's major|pg|| nt|kit: Seems like West should overtake, as he doesn't want his partner leading anything.|pg|| nt|ahollan2: invented by doug drury of toronto to combat his partner, eric murray, opening very light in 3rd/4th seat and pair getting too high|pg|| nt|phil: not clear that we need the @cK for slam. Either great diamonds or xxxxx x Axxx Kxx is enough? |pg|| nt|ahollan2: reverse drury - the default - has opener rebid 2M with no game interest |pg|| nt|kit: But as you know, partner never holds the perfect hand.|pg|| nt|ahollan2: original drury [which did not promise fit] 2@D was the artificial "negative"|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|h7|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h5|mc|10|pg|| qx|o27|st||md|1SAHJ98DJ93CAQT865,SQJ6542HQ4DK85C32,SK73HT7532DA42CJ9,ST98HAK6DQT76CK74|sv|o|mb|1C|mb|2S|mb|d|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|c4|pg|| nt|fuquay: This looks like 3 more losers for a quiet -50|pg|| nt|fuquay: The @S7 is not big enough to be promoted|pg|| nt|stc: compared to 3NT available in NS on a @s lead|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s7|pc|s8|pg|| pc|cT|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|c7|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|d5|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c27|st||md|1SAHJ98DJ93CAQT865,SQJ6542HQ4DK85C32,SK73HT7532DA42CJ9,ST98HAK6DQT76CK74|sv|o|mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sQ|nt|ahollan2: 2@C = 10-15, 6+@C|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|sA|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s9|pc|d9|pc|s2|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c9|mc|9|pg|| qx|o28|st||md|2S95HAKQ85D9764C86,SK42H76432D32CAQT,SAT8763HDAKJ8CJ42,SQJHJT9DQT5CK9753|sv|n|nt|ritong: delicate, this|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|ahollan1: 27 [3@SW-1] hampson opens precision 2@C ending auction and makes 3|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1N = forcing|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@D limited by failure to use gazzilli|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: i believe 2@D = 3+@D but when katz rebids @S probably now 6@S 4@D|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|medwards: Seems like pass is the only option here|pg|| nt|medwards: aand he does|pg|| pc|c3|nt|fuquay: If there was no "no gazzilli" inference, S might have felt the need to bid on|pg|| nt|ahollan1: gazzilli helped here by its non-use|pg|| pc|c6|nt|ahollan1: or what greg said|pg|| nt|stc: -1 on best defense|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| nt|stc: @s now|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d4|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|c8|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|stc: +1 now|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|dK|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sJ|pc|s5|pc|s2|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|s9|pc|cT|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|d8|pc|h9|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|dJ|pc|hT|pg|| pc|d7|pc|h4|mc|9|pg|| qx|c28|st||md|2S95HAKQ85D9764C86,SK42H76432D32CAQT,SAT8763HDAKJ8CJ42,SQJHJT9DQT5CK9753|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N!|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d5|nt|MrAce: now @D 9 will make @C losers disappear |pg|| pc|d9|pc|d2|pc|d8|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|c2|pc|h9|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|c4|pc|hT|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h4|pc|cJ|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|s9|pc|s4|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|cT|pc|s3|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 1@S = 10-15 // 1N = semi-force|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o29|st||md|3SQJ85HT4DQT96CKT4,S942HKQ9873DJCA98,SAKT63HA52DK52C63,S7HJ6DA8743CQJ752|sv|b|mb|1S|nt|ritong: takes a raise showing four trumps to get to 4@s here|pg|| mb|p|nt|ritong: not sure we want to, though:)|pg|| nt|ahollan1: greco opened 1N=14-16|pg|| nt|fuquay: This S hand is a four card "mixed raise" --- a little less than a limit raise|pg|| mb|3S|nt|ahollan1: 3@S = 4-fit, mixed|pg|| nt|stc: a typical small Bergen if you play it|pg|| nt|ritong: unclear what to do when auction strongly suggests pard has short@s|pg|| nt|ritong: 4@h looks reasonable imho|pg|| nt|fuquay: And either partner has points or they have 4@S|pg|| mb|4H|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hJ|nt|fuquay: Katz is bidding 4@S as a two-way bid playing that at least one of the major suit games makes|pg|| pc|h4|nt|ritong: yes, a rather standard " attack/defense" situation|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|sQ|pc|s4|pg|| nt|medwards: another hand where NT range came into play|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i think katz allowed to open 1N with good 14|pg|| nt|ahollan1: perhaps playing gazzilli afffected his decision|pg|| nt|fuquay: It is not clear to me that 1N is the best bid with N even playing 14-16|pg|| nt|fuquay: However, there are a number of players who are much better than me who do open 1N |pg|| pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|s6|pc|c2|pc|sJ|pc|s9|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|hT|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c3|mc|9|pg|| qx|c29|st||md|3SQJ85HT4DQT96CKT4,S942HKQ9873DJCA98,SAKT63HA52DK52C63,S7HJ6DA8743CQJ752|sv|b|nt|ahollan2: 28 katz in 2@S|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: 14-16|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hJ|pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s5|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s3|pc|d4|pc|sQ|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s9|pc|sT|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|cA|mc|9|pg|| qx|o30|st||md|4SK94HK96D643CJT86,SJ5H72DAKJ952CK72,SAQ3HAJ8543D8CA93,ST8762HQTDQT7CQ54|sv|o|nt|ahollan1: 2nd half starts in 90 min|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|2D|nt|ahollan1: 1N = 14-16|pg|| mb|2S|nt|ahollan1: interesting that martel chooses 1N but meckstroth opened nebulous 1@D|pg|| nt|ritong: this one has bad intent and NS would be inspired to reach game now|pg|| nt|fuquay: This looked like a routing 4@H at first but now it has gotten more interesting|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|nt|fuquay: routine|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@D = @H possible 4@H 6m |pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ritong: nice fight|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i don't think i have ever seen this pair with the canape hand|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|d7|pc|d4|pg|| nt|fuquay: The 3@H bid is impressive if partner might only have 4@H|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s4|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|fuquay: S knew that W had the @HQ because of the 1N opener|pg|| mc|10|nt|fuquay: "knew"|pg|| nt|ritong: all right so we said 90 minutes?|pg|| nt|Harmon: yes dear|pg|| pg|| qx|c30|st||md|4SK94HK96D643CJT86,SJ5H72DAKJ952CK72,SAQ3HAJ8543D8CA93,ST8762HQTDQT7CQ54|sv|o|nt|MrAce: other table will end up in 4@S i think|pg|| nt|ahollan2: final board of 1st half|pg|| mb|p|nt|MrAce: N opened 1@S and S raised to 3@S, inviting|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|1S|nt|ahollan2: restart in 1 hour 50 min|pg|| mb|2H|mb|3D|nt|ahollan2: 5 pm EDT|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|d8|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 29 katz pushed to 4@S 1@S-P-3@S[mixed]-4@H//4@S-end|pg|| nt|MrAce: 30 imps is still quite a gap but much better than 56 |pg|| nt|ahollan2: 1@D = 10-15, 2+@D // 1@S = 5+@S|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 3@D = not 3@S|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 2nd half starts in 90 min|pg|| pc|dA|pc|h5|pc|dQ|pc|d4|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hT|pc|h6|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h7|pg|| nt|MrAce: cya all in 90 mins |pg|| pc|d6|mc|11|pg||