vg|VG1-2017WBTC,BB-F3,I,1,16,FRANCE,61,USA2,71| rs|3NS+4,5CS+1,2SW-1,4HS-1,2SE+1,2SW=,3NN=,3NS+1,5CWx-2,4SWx-3,5CN+1,2SEx-2,2SW+1,3SW-1,4DWx-2,4HN-2,3NE-1,3NE-1,6SN=,4SN+2,3NS-1,1NS+1,4SW=,4SW=,4HS+2,4HN+1,3SS-1,2SS+1,2DNx-2,2DNx-2,3CS-2,3CSx-2| pn|QUANTIN,PSZCZOLA,LORENZINI,MIC ROSENB,C MARTEL,VOLCKER,FLEISHER,BESSIS|pg|| qx|o1|st||md|3SA7HAJ852DA52CA65,SJ92HKQT763DQT6CT,SQT853HDJ7CKQ9874,SK64H94DK9843CJ32|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|3N!|mb|p|nt|MAXLAM: 2@c=Gazzilli|pg|| nt|MAXLAM: 2@d = 7+|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|MAXLAM: Probably 2533|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cT|pc|c4|pc|c2|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s4|pg|| pc|c6|pc|h3|pc|cK|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pc|c5|mc|13|nt|vugrapho1: rosenberg call td|pg|| pg|| qx|c1|st||md|3SA7HAJ852DA52CA65,SJ92HKQT763DQT6CT,SQT853HDJ7CKQ9874,SK64H94DK9843CJ32|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S!|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3S!|an|!C|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d6|pc|d7|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|dJ|pc|h4|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|c4|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|cT|pg|| pc|c5|pc|dT|pc|cK|pc|c3|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s6|pc|c6|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dQ|pc|c8|pc|d3|pg|| pc|cQ|mc|12|pg|| qx|o2|st||md|4SQ4HAQ752DQ64CJ96,SK9762HKTD72CKQ85,SA853HJ963DKJ8CAT,SJTH84DAT953C7432|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2S!|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h6|nt|ahollan2: by unpassed hand 2@S =a) 2-fit, 4-8 hcp b) 3+fit, 0-bad 7 [modified bart]|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|hT|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|sT|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s5|pc|d3|pc|h7|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c6|pg|| nt|ritong: bonjour a tous:)|pg|| pc|s8|pc|d5|pc|h2|pc|s6|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|c2|st||md|4SQ4HAQ752DQ64CJ96,SK9762HKTD72CKQ85,SA853HJ963DKJ8CAT,SJTH84DAT953C7432|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c6|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cT|pc|c3|pc|c9|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|c5|pc|s3|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|h8|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sT|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o3|st||md|1S72H8643DQT94CAJ3,SKJ9653HAJ7D76C96,SAQ84HKT92DJ3C842,STHQ5DAK852CKQT75|sv|e|nt|ahollan2: 2 2@SW-1 martel in 4@H south|pg|| nt|Psyck: Chip Martel is a 3-time Bermuda Bowl winner, but even he will have difficulties making that contract|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D!|nt|ferlema: 5th World Youth Open Championships today results & yesterday prize giving ceremony here http://youth.worldbridge.org/wyoc-lyon-2017-august-23th/|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 2@D = 4-9, weak 2@H/@S|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S!|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: btw - 3 BB wins is only a portion of martel's list of world championship wins|pg|| mb|p|nt|odysseus69: just enough facing sound 2H|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|dA|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|d7|pg|| nt|ahollan2: kit woolsey believes the 2@D opener that shows only weak 2M opener - should be passed more often than it is|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|ahollan2: so i wonder what happens if rosenberg had passed instead of 2@s|pg|| nt|ritong: problem is he may have good play in 4@h when his pard has a good hand with @hs|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|c4|pg|| pc|c5|nt|ritong: hence 2@s steada 2@h choice|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c9|pc|c2|pg|| pc|d9|pc|s9|nt|MAXLAM: Welcome Henri |pg|| nt|ritong: saying " if by any chance you have @hs it might be good in @h game"|pg|| nt|ritong: hello:)|pg|| nt|ahollan2: note: 2@S does NOT show good hand for @H|pg|| nt|ritong: ah|pg|| pc|h2|pc|d5|pg|| pc|sK|nt|ahollan2: opener "corrects" to 2N or 3@C to show @H, min/max|pg|| nt|ahollan2: then they can play minor or even sometimes 2N|pg|| nt|ritong: same prospect, then|pg|| nt|ahollan2: or 2@S then rebid 3@S = own suit|pg|| nt|ahollan2: but historically 2@D-2@S did start out as promising good hand for @H|pg|| pc|sA|pc|cK|pc|s7|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|s5|pg|| nt|serhat: duck would be better?|pg|| nt|ahollan2: if not already mentioned -- there is voice commentary at this table|pg|| nt|MAXLAM: At least not annoyed to be at 3@h level|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s4|pc|d2|pc|h3|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s8|nt|serhat: now end play|pg|| pc|d8|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h9|nt|serhat: fantastic play by Mic|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|h7|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c3|st||md|1S72H8643DQT94CAJ3,SKJ9653HAJ7D76C96,SAQ84HKT92DJ3C842,STHQ5DAK852CKQT75|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C!|an|2+!C|mb|1D|mb|d|an|4+!H|mb|1S|mb|2H|an|4!H|nt|Authau: Merci Bas :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|2S|nt|vugraphc1: Alrighty then, the software was bugged so I couldn't claim. We're up to speed again|pg|| nt|vugraphc1: I'm sorry for the inconvenience all|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@C = 2+@C // DBL = 4+@H|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@H = 4-fit|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: [1@H would be 3@H]|pg|| nt|Authau: Forget this please, not your own|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|h7|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s7|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d7|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|c8|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s4|pc|d2|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|c5|pc|h8|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|d9|pc|d6|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cJ|pc|c9|pc|c4|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|s5|pc|s8|mc|8|pg|| qx|o4|st||md|2SAT97HAT6DKT82CK3,SKQ8HJ85DQ5CJ9652,SJ52HK74DJ9CAQT84,S643HQ932DA7643C7|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h2|nt|odysseus69: Too quick- was going to ask which major- heart is clearly best on ths deal|pg|| nt|odysseus69: and Roseberg fond it quickly|pg|| nt|odysseus69: South declaring next door on friendly club lead|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h6|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d7|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|h9|pc|hA|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d9|pc|dA|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|ritong: pepsi will suffer here|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s8|pc|c8|pg|| nt|odysseus69: maybe cashing was mistake|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d8|pc|c2|pc|s5|pg|| pc|dT|nt|odysseus69: going to make now|pg|| nt|ritong: do we hear the crouiking sound|pg|| nt|Luffe12: A @s through would have it guess-work I think|pg|| nt|odysseus69: michael will apologise|pg|| nt|odysseus69: he hates to squeeze partner|pg|| nt|Luffe12: Fine show-up - made possible by one's prd :(|pg|| nt|ritong: crouik crouik|pg|| nt|ahollan2: Henri -- at least one of us needs a translation|pg|| nt|Luffe12: Another thins is - W would have no escape|pg|| nt|ritong: googling " brodequins" may help|pg|| nt|ahollan2: for "crouik crouik" ??|pg|| nt|ritong: yup|pg|| nt|Luffe12: Probably a small open book end anyway|pg|| nt|Luffe12: Even without retifying the count|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pc|d3|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sK|pc|s2|mc|9|pg|| qx|c4|st||md|2SAT97HAT6DKT82CK3,SKQ8HJ85DQ5CJ9652,SJ52HK74DJ9CAQT84,S643HQ932DA7643C7|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|ahollan1: NS 1N non-vul 1/2/3 = 14-16 otherwise 15-17|pg|| mb|p|mb|3C!|mb|p|mb|3D!|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c5|nt|fuquay: 3@C puppet, 3@D denying 5 card major|pg|| nt|fuquay: I believe|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c7|pc|c3|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i lost connection this may be duplicate comment 3@C=Puppet Stayman 3@D = not 5@H/@S nothing about 4@H/@S|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sA|pg|| nt|fuquay: He ducked the spade????|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d9|pc|dA|pg|| nt|vugraphc1: Just me not being able to distinguish backspace and enter|pg|| pc|s4|mc|10|pg|| qx|o5|st||md|3SQ7HAQJ962DKJ976C,SAJ43HT3DACAKJT64,SK95HK85DQT85CQ72,ST862H74D432C9853|sv|n|nt|Luffe12: Nice 1'er for the USA2|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: ok i got brodequin - still unsure about crouik|pg|| nt|ritong: there is a torture variante|pg|| nt|odysseus69: 4 spades/5c cheap|pg|| mb|1H|mb|d|nt|ahollan2: volker started with 2@C|pg|| mb|2D!|mb|p|nt|ritong: consisting in screwing toes with metallic structure|pg|| nt|ritong: well, next:)|pg|| nt|odysseus69: god 2H raise|pg|| nt|odysseus69: 4H now then 5C|pg|| mb|4H|mb|5C|nt|serhat: 5@S X?|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h5|nt|serhat: this plays well.. -1?|pg|| pc|h4|nt|serhat: -2|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| nt|Luffe12: at least -2|pg|| nt|odysseus69: 1 down very satisfactory - maybe South should have bid 4D|pg|| nt|Luffe12: you need to get the @s's right|pg|| nt|ahollan2: @SHx seems to suggest 5@CX down 2|pg|| nt|ahollan2: @SHx in south|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d2|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c3|nt|Luffe12: How can you tell|pg|| pc|h2|pg|| nt|Luffe12: might be 3=6=4|pg|| nt|odysseus69: Missed club loser- specsavers appointment|pg|| nt|ahollan2: even if playing Raptor 1N [aka Polish 1N] west hand too strong|pg|| pc|cT|nt|ahollan2: where (1M)-1N = 4OM & 5+@C/@D|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|h9|pc|hT|pg|| nt|Luffe12: Cash out at get out|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d3|pc|dK|nt|ahollan2: fun convention when holding that shape and inference where (1M)-2@C/@D = not 4OM|pg|| pc|c4|pg|| nt|ahollan2: but i never got comfortable with adjustments needed to handle strong NT|pg|| nt|ahollan2: advancer also needed to adjust response to DBL|pg|| nt|odysseus69: 6-4-3 or 6-5-2 with South|pg|| nt|ahollan2: or some partners wanted random strong NT to start with PASS|pg|| nt|Luffe12: Ruff another @d and @s A and @s looks best|pg|| nt|serhat: Pepsi is good enough to play small @S from dummy|pg|| nt|ahollan2: i would stop with "Pepsi is good enough" :)|pg|| nt|odysseus69: maybe South hasKQ|pg|| nt|Luffe12: Yep ruff sluff no good - thx kibs|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c7|pc|c8|nt|serhat: he is thinking to ruff @D and play small @S|pg|| pc|d7|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s7|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pg|| nt|Luffe12: wd|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d4|pc|d9|pc|cK|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c5|st||md|3SQ7HAQJ962DKJ976C,SAJ43HT3DACAKJT64,SK95HK85DQT85CQ72,ST862H74D432C9853|sv|n|nt|Authau: Where is your desk Bas ? ju behind Martin ?|pg|| nt|Authau: juST*|pg|| nt|ahollan1: usually operator sits at south east corner|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|2C|nt|ahollan1: 1@H usually not 4@S|pg|| nt|vugraphc1: Yes, between Martel and Bessis|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i was told once why not northwest corner - but don't remember the reason|pg|| nt|DSIP: It is warmer in the southeast|pg|| nt|fuquay: Seems like it could be completely symmetric to me|pg|| nt|Authau: :)|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: oh right hands would be upside-down from bbo display|pg|| nt|vugraphc1: Yeah, now Martel is on my left and in the bottom of my screen, it is the most natural|pg|| mb|4H|mb|4S|nt|ahollan1: i won't mention who explained that - but thanks jan|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 4 lorenzini opened hand that fleisher passed playing 3N from north|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h4|nt|ahollan1: looks like lorenzi making 3N by squeezing pepsi in black suits|pg|| nt|fuquay: With the E hand should one go back to the longer suit (to avoid a big disaster) or stay at the lower level?|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d2|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|s7|pg|| nt|fuquay: Spectators say the chance that partner is 6-5 overide --- maybe it depends some on the meaning of 2@H in one's partnership?|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|h7|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|s4|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|h2|pg|| nt|fuquay: In 5@C, declarer would have been able to get to dummy for a spade finesse and would also escape -300|pg|| nt|vugraphc1: Not really delivering my best work here...|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|c5|pc|d7|pg|| mc|7|nt|fuquay: no --- there is a diamond to lose|pg|| pg|| qx|o6|st||md|4S9864HA8DAQJ3CK85,SQT7H943DT9854C62,S2HKJ75DK72CAQT97,SAKJ53HQT62D6CJ43|sv|e|nt|serhat: but that is more unluckly|pg|| nt|ahollan2: zero pushes set score 7-1|pg|| nt|ahollan2: ach 7-7|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N!|mb|d|mb|p|nt|ritong: at unfav pepsi may give up at fav he would bid 1NT, i guess|pg|| nt|ritong: who cares about vulnerability|pg|| nt|Luffe12: P?|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 1|pg|| mb|2S|mb|d|nt|ahollan2: 1N = forcing|pg|| nt|odysseus69: 2S COMING|pg|| nt|ritong: hey, jacek, keep quiet !:)|pg|| nt|Luffe12: 2@s X have a chance :)|pg|| nt|ritong: extremely tough now to reach this delicious slam|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: volcker bid 2@S where pepsi chose DBL|pg|| nt|odysseus69: Trump lead coming-thats a penalty double- North chickened|pg|| nt|ahollan2: and bessis is playing 2@SX|pg|| mb|5C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|odysseus69: 6C ok cant really reach it|pg|| nt|Luffe12: 2@s X EW should get 6 tricks|pg|| nt|MAXLAM: A little caution on @d stiff lead|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s7|pc|s2|pg|| nt|odysseus69: same bidding next door but North sat and South led a trump|pg|| nt|serhat: 6c not too bad|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|c7|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|c2|pg|| nt|serhat: little less % than 60|pg|| nt|odysseus69: so 2 imps for USA 2|pg|| nt|Luffe12: So far - as expected - the match have been so close - 6 very, very skilled pairs - WD|pg|| nt|ahollan2: i do know both countries have won the bermuda bowl -- does anyone know if they have ever met in the finals?|pg|| nt|Luffe12: Exchanging only 148 imps between them is a pretty low rate - I know some dynamite towards end of previous set - by the rest - cool|pg|| nt|ahollan2: john swanson says yes 1971 // lew stansby says 1997|pg|| nt|ahollan2: and one claim for 1984|pg|| nt|ahollan2: others fed that info but i thought i would drop some names of former BB winners|pg|| nt|serhat: ruff a @H?|pg|| nt|vugrapho1: lorenzini thinking|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|c6|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hT|pc|c8|pc|h9|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sQ|mc|12|pg|| qx|c6|st||md|4S9864HA8DAQJ3CK85,SQT7H943DT9854C62,S2HKJ75DK72CAQT97,SAKJ53HQT62D6CJ43|sv|e|nt|fuquay: 5@C would have been safer|pg|| nt|fuquay: Still -500 is better than a ul game|pg|| nt|fuquay: vor EW|pg|| nt|fuquay: for|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|ahollan1: 5 pepsi started DBL rather than 2@C playing 5@CX|pg|| nt|fuquay: He certainly could have escaped for -300|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: seems easier for 5@CX to be only down 2|pg|| nt|fuquay: By the way, it looks like 6@C would make here|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s6|nt|ahollan1: 5 pepsi down 2 in 5@CX|pg|| nt|ahollan1: zero pushes set score 7-1|pg|| nt|fuquay: The @H spots will become important in this hand|pg|| nt|ahollan1: ach 7-7|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hT|pc|hA|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sT|nt|Authau: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l76zclUM_Nc|pg|| pc|c7|pc|s5|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|h8|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d6|nt|fuquay: If another @H is played, declarer should duck|pg|| nt|Authau: N would play J|pg|| nt|ahollan1: where volcker bid 2@S quantin bid 2@S and pepsi DBL|pg|| nt|ahollan1: lorenzini in 5@C north|pg|| nt|fuquay: But either the !Q would be a trick later or E could ruff the fourth @H in dummy|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|c9|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s9|pc|c2|pc|cT|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|c5|pc|h9|pc|h7|pg|| mc|6|pg|| qx|o7|st||md|1SQJHQ874DA74CKQ64,SAK8754H63DQ83CA2,ST963HKT952DJT6C8,S2HAJDK952CJT9753|sv|b|mb|1C|nt|serhat: good night everyone.. enjoy the match... :)|pg|| mb|1S|nt|ritong: decision for east coming|pg|| nt|ritong: likely 1NT|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|nt|ahollan2: 1954 USA: Clifford Bishop, Milton Ellenby, Lew Mathe, Don Oakie, William Rosen, Douglas Steen, Benjamin Johnson(NPC).2. FRANCE: Jacques Amouraben, René Bacherich, Jean Besse, ...|pg|| nt|ahollan2: Pierre Ghestem, Marcel Kornblum, Karl Schneider.|pg|| nt|bobholl: west in other room than bid 3@S|pg|| mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2S|nt|ahollan2: btw john swanson is one of the voice commentators -- and has republished his book about playing in the bermuda bowl|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ritong: perfect picturing by pepsi|pg|| pc|c8|nt|ahollan2: roland reminding us this is 40th anniversary of swanson winning bermuda bowl|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|ahollan2: 2@C then 2@S just stronger than immediate 2@S|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|ahollan2: with no 2nd suit|pg|| pc|cA|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|d2|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|c2|nt|MAXLAM: 1997 Hammamet =1. FRANCE: Paul Chemla, Alain Levy, Christian Mari, Hervé Mouiel, Frank Multon, Michel Perron, Jean-Louis Stoppa (NPC).2. USA II: Richard Freeman, Bob Hamman, Jeff Meckstroth, Nick Nickell, Eric Rodwell, Robert S Wolff, Walter Wa|pg|| nt|odysseus69: club lead not great idea|pg|| pc|sT|pc|c3|pc|c4|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d5|nt|MAXLAM: Walvick (NPC).|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|d9|pc|dA|pg|| nt|odysseus69: that was another bad idea|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| nt|ferlema: 5th World Youth Open Championships today results & yesterday prize giving ceremony here http://youth.worldbridge.org/wyoc-lyon-2017-august-23th/|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|s4|nt|ahollan2: with so many formal names i'm surprised nickell was not listed as Frank|pg|| pc|s9|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c7|st||md|1SQJHQ874DA74CKQ64,SAK8754H63DQ83CA2,ST963HKT952DJT6C8,S2HAJDK952CJT9753|sv|b|mb|1C!|an|2+!c|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|ahollan1: 1@C = 2+@C|pg|| mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Authau: Thomas is thinking...Martin has already passed|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cJ|pc|c6|pc|c2|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|c3|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s9|pc|c5|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|h3|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|sT|pc|c7|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h6|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|d6|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dT|pc|d5|pc|d4|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o8|st||md|2SJT98HAQT6D54CK73,S3H972DKQT983C965,SAQ5HK853DJ2CAJ82,SK7642HJ4DA76CQT4|sv|o|mb|3D|nt|Luffe12: 7 boards - 7 onedigits - ;)|pg|| nt|ritong: predicting 4@h NS|pg|| mb|d|mb|4D|mb|d|mb|p|nt|ritong: clear cut responsive double imho|pg|| nt|Luffe12: take the money!|pg|| mb|p|nt|ritong: that s an option, yes|pg|| mb|p|pc|d2|pc|d6|nt|odysseus69: well judged by North|pg|| pc|d4|nt|ritong: true|pg|| pc|d8|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s8|pg|| nt|bobholl: and 9 imps to france|pg|| nt|ahollan2: agree with entire auction|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c9|pc|c8|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|ahollan2: neither west player had option of natural weak 2@D|pg|| mc|8|nt|ahollan2: 9 imp swing and none of the 8 players seemed to do anything wrong|pg|| pg|| qx|c8|st||md|2SJT98HAQT6D54CK73,S3H972DKQT983C965,SAQ5HK853DJ2CAJ82,SK7642HJ4DA76CQT4|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|vugraphc1: Bessis looking a bit frustrated|pg|| mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|2D|nt|ahollan1: 1N = 14-16|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@C promises at least 1 4-card major|pg|| mb|2H|mb|3D|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dA|nt|fuquay: This looks like -1 or maybe -2 if a @S is played at trick 3|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dT|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|ferlema: 5th World Youth Open Championships today results & yesterday prize giving ceremony here http://youth.worldbridge.org/wyoc-lyon-2017-august-23th/|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s8|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o9|st||md|3ST3H973DQ75CAK964,S54HKQ62D9832CJ52,SQ9876HT854DT4CQ7,SAKJ2HAJDAKJ6CT83|sv|e|nt|MAXLAM: Weak 2@d not playd over here|pg|| nt|odysseus69: north not going to remove to possible 4-3|pg|| mb|2H|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: 2@H non-vul 4+@H 4+@S|pg|| mb|p|nt|Luffe12: SO which MA to lead?|pg|| nt|Luffe12: ;)|pg|| pc|c6|nt|Luffe12: WD|pg|| nt|ritong: yay|pg|| nt|odysseus69: dont lead partners suits|pg|| nt|MAXLAM: None ever|pg|| nt|Luffe12: trust yourself|pg|| nt|Luffe12: Do'nt lead prd's|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c8|pc|cK|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cJ|nt|odysseus69: I like x = strong balanced against 2h|pg|| pc|h4|pc|cT|pg|| pc|c9|pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|d6|pg|| pc|c4|pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|s2|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|hA|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|dT|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|d8|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|h8|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|s7|pc|dJ|pc|h9|pg|| nt|odysseus69: 3nt still available next time - if there is one|pg|| nt|ahollan2: for EW (2@H)-DBL would be takeout with @S as possible suit|pg|| nt|Luffe12: There was never a play - due to @h-blokage|pg|| nt|bobholl: did michael count the @H|pg|| nt|ahollan2: (2@H)-2N = BAL, 15-18|pg|| pc|h6|pc|s8|pc|sJ|pc|s3|pg|| nt|bobholl: he did|pg|| mc|8|nt|ritong: amazing, eh|pg|| pg|| qx|c9|st||md|3ST3H973DQ75CAK964,S54HKQ62D9832CJ52,SQ9876HT854DT4CQ7,SAKJ2HAJDAKJ6CT83|sv|e|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3C!|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 8 pepsi opens 3@D|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c6|nt|ahollan1: 3@C = normal stayman not sure why that is alerted|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|c8|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cJ|pc|dT|pc|cT|pg|| pc|c4|nt|ahollan1: 8 in other room 3@D-DBL-4@D-DBL-end|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s9|pc|s2|pg|| pc|c9|pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hA|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|s6|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|d8|pc|s7|pg|| mc|8|nt|vugraphc1: Atmosphere has chilled a bit|pg|| nt|vugraphc1: Bessis asked Fleisher a question when Martel was considering his switch, and he seemed ready to claim, but then Fleisher quickly said nononono and Bessis didn't claim|pg|| pg|| qx|o10|st||md|4SKTHA9DA8542CT876,S972HJ84DKQT76CJ2,SAQJ8643H7D3CAK53,S5HKQT6532DJ9CQ94|sv|b|nt|ahollan2: easy slam to bid -- with 1 peek|pg|| nt|Luffe12: Can they bid it - contested?|pg|| mb|2D!|mb|p|nt|odysseus69: dont like this result|pg|| mb|3H!|nt|ahollan2: 1@D = weak 2@H/@S|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 3@H = pass/correct|pg|| nt|odysseus69: like it even less now|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|nt|ritong: the interesting part is east did not open 3@h|pg|| nt|odysseus69: south worth a move imo|pg|| nt|bobholl: 3 keys :)|pg|| nt|ritong: i wish i was onsite to ask him why surely he has a good reason|pg|| nt|odysseus69: was worth 1 next door but more difficult there|pg|| nt|Luffe12: So hard values in S - get moved!|pg|| nt|Luffe12: 4@S is not a preemt|pg|| nt|odysseus69: here clear to move|pg|| mb|4N|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: does quantin have more, less or same info as martel in other room??|pg|| nt|bobholl: he has more partner jumped to 4@S|pg|| nt|Psyck: Other room, 4@s may have been bid under pressure and may be weaker|pg|| nt|odysseus69: only chance -very remote- they bid grand|pg|| nt|MAXLAM: The difference between a jump and a non jump Vul|pg|| nt|bobholl: 5@S 5NT 61C ??|pg|| nt|bobholl: 6@C|pg|| mb|5S|mb|p|mb|6S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|MAXLAM: 2 with|pg|| mb|p|nt|ritong: nice|pg|| nt|ahollan2: last set also 1st double digit swing in 2nd half of segment|pg|| nt|bobholl: after @H lead try whether @D are 43 ?|pg|| nt|ahollan2: so the big difference seems to bee rosenberg 2@D vs bessis 3@H|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|odysseus69: new leader|pg|| nt|ahollan2: with lorenzini gaining because jump to 4@S|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|h7|pg|| nt|ritong: "thank you pard"|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|h5|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|s9|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|h3|pc|d2|pc|dT|pg|| pc|s8|pc|hT|pc|d4|pc|h4|pg|| pc|s6|nt|Psyck: does North's hand qualify as swan/eu de cologne or should the exact shape be 4711?|pg|| pc|h6|pc|d5|pc|d6|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c6|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|c7|pc|cJ|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c10|st||md|4SKTHA9DA8542CT876,S972HJ84DKQT76CJ2,SAQJ8643H7D3CAK53,S5HKQT6532DJ9CQ94|sv|b|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: sometimes preempts work|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h7|pg|| pc|sK|nt|Authau: sometimes not with 7411 with long @ss|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s3|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|h3|pc|h9|pc|s9|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|h5|pc|d2|pc|h8|pg|| pc|s8|pc|hT|pc|d4|pc|d7|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c6|pc|c2|pg|| pc|s6|pc|h6|pc|c7|pc|d6|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|c8|pc|cJ|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o11|st||md|1SA32HQJ73DKQ98CJ3,S7HA62DJT654CAQ95,SKJ94HT54DA7CK876,SQT865HK98D32CT42|sv|o|mb|1D|mb|p|nt|ritong: unclear what will happen here|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|nt|ritong: i guess invite accepted|pg|| nt|ritong: no|pg|| nt|ritong: ty|pg|| mb|1N|nt|bobholl: NV no invite i guess|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: in other room, i thought martel was supposed to bid 1@S when fleisher artificially showed 4+@S|pg|| nt|ritong: now, can this make?|pg|| nt|MAXLAM: To support with 3 cards is anti systemic|pg|| nt|bobholl: difficult lead for west |pg|| nt|ritong: i believe west must avoid a minor lead|pg|| nt|fabsayc: west at some point on this defense will need to lead club queen|pg|| pc|d5|nt|ritong: looking better now|pg|| nt|ahollan2: not sure why, but i just thought about nice interview of lorenzini after he had great 2016 in usa national events|pg|| nt|bobholl: the 9th trick :)|pg|| nt|ahollan2: does anyone know if he is full time bridge player now - or still chemist??|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d2|pc|d8|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|hK|pg|| pc|d3|nt|ahollan2: most answers full time bridge|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d4|pc|dA|pg|| nt|bobholl: yes at some time @C Q may prevent 9 tricks|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|hJ|pc|h6|pg|| nt|ahollan2: it really was good interview wish i could remember if acbl publication or something online|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s7|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|fabsayc: spade was in fact lead in Sweden-Poland|pg|| nt|odysseus69: any club will do|pg|| nt|ahollan2: all confirming ACBL Bulletin article|pg|| nt|bobholl: yes 2 tricks in + 2@C 1@H|pg|| nt|ahollan2: thanks to everyone for input|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|nt|fabsayc: voila, the queen|pg|| pc|cK|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|c5|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|h5|pc|s6|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dT|pc|c6|pc|h9|pg|| pc|s3|pc|c9|pc|sK|pc|s8|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sT|pc|c3|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|ahollan2: Feb 2016 Lorenzini on front cover as ACBL Player of the Year for winning most platinum monsterpoints in acbl's major events|pg|| mc|8|nt|ahollan2: so big year must have been 2015|pg|| pg|| qx|c11|st||md|1SA32HQJ73DKQ98CJ3,S7HA62DJT654CAQ95,SKJ94HT54DA7CK876,SQT865HK98D32CT42|sv|o|nt|Authau: How good (bad ?) was 6@s ?|pg|| mb|1C!|an|2+!C|mb|1D|mb|1H!|an|4+!S|mb|p|mb|1N|an|11-13, usually not 3!S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|d8|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|hT|pc|h8|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|d4|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|d6|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@C = 2+@C // 1@H=4+@S|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i thought martel would bid 1@S with 3-fit|pg|| nt|vugraphc1: Martel threw down @DKQ and @S2 and then said "8 tricks", so I must've done something wrong|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o12|st||md|2S3HAJ432DJT6CQT82,SKJ8652HQT6D42C93,SA94H987DA9873CJ7,SQT7HK5DKQ5CAK654|sv|n|mb|2D!|nt|odysseus69: new leader|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3C!|nt|ahollan2: here we go again with 2@D|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan2: 2N = relay // 3@C = any min|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3S|nt|ahollan2: 3@H = pass/correct|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: 4@S = good-on-ya!!|pg|| nt|odysseus69: wwwants to be dummy?|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c3|pg|| nt|fabsayc: 3c=max. 3d=h min 3h=s min after 3c, 3d asks, 3h=s, 3s=h|pg|| nt|odysseus69: doesnt really matter here but mightn have|pg|| nt|fabsayc: this guarantees responder is declarer|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h7|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c9|pc|c7|pc|cK|pg|| nt|fabsayc: an alternative is 3c=min and h, 3d max and s, 3h=sp but then 3s=hearts is awkward|pg|| nt|bobholl: last one easy to remember strong hand plays always|pg|| nt|ahollan2: they use 3@D/@H to show MAX with transfer to suit and 3@S/NT to show @H/@S very good suit|pg|| nt|fabsayc: pepsi=rosenberg dont play the method i described|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|s2|nt|fabsayc: so rosenberg did not yet know the suit|pg|| pc|s4|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|h8|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h9|pc|s7|pc|h3|pg|| pc|sT|pc|d6|nt|fabsayc: i completed what i knew you would say, Roland|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sA|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c12|st||md|2S3HAJ432DJT6CQT82,SKJ8652HQT6D42C93,SA94H987DA9873CJ7,SQT7HK5DKQ5CAK654|sv|n|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraphc1: Fleisher explained that he usually doesn't have 3@S but he might|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|d4|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h5|nt|ahollan1: 10 bidding in other room starts 2@D-P-3@H-4@S//P-4N waiting for lorenzini|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|s2|nt|ahollan1: quantin bids RKC and puts lorenzini in 6@S|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s7|pc|h3|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg|| mc|10|nt|ahollan1: last set also 1st double digit swing in 2nd half of segment|pg|| pg|| qx|o13|st||md|3S52HKJT8DAQT4CJ84,SK9643H7D96CKQ732,SAQTHA9653D73CAT5,SJ87HQ42DKJ852C96|sv|b|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3C!|mb|d|nt|MAXLAM: 3@c = puppet|pg|| nt|ritong: with everything onside, looks like a 1 imp on the @h guess|pg|| nt|odysseus69: does double affect responses|pg|| nt|ahollan2: i thought earlier auction [and convention card] said regular stayman maybe that was other room|pg|| mb|3S!|mb|p|nt|ritong: not sure the now known @c length affects the choice|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: interesting 3@S with @H and non-postional @C stop|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|nt|odysseus69: could be equalizer|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c4|pg|| pc|hA|nt|ahollan2: closed room playing 16|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|h7|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|hJ|nt|ritong: cool|pg|| pc|c3|pg|| pc|hK|pc|s4|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|c9|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|s7|pc|s2|pg|| nt|fabsayc: it seems the lead direct double of 3@C backfired|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|d6|pg|| mc|12|nt|fabsayc: since it suggested the winning heart play|pg|| pg|| qx|c13|st||md|3S52HKJT8DAQT4CJ84,SK9643H7D96CKQ732,SAQTHA9653D73CAT5,SJ87HQ42DKJ852C96|sv|b|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: so the big difference seems to be rosenberg 2@D vs bessis 3@H -- in other room lorenzini got to JUMP to 4@S|pg|| nt|vugraphc1: There is a difference between the official score and the BBO score. I believe the OR players made a scoring error on board 8. We are now looking into it|pg|| nt|vugraphc1: Never mind, it's fixed already :)|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|h7|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|c7|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c6|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|s7|pc|s2|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o14|st||md|4SQJ976HJT4DAJ3C86,S83HQ63DQ96CAT753,ST52HA75DK74CKJ94,SAK4HK982DT852CQ2|sv|o|mb|1D|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|ritong: worth a cue, but close|pg|| mb|2D|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: do you prefer quantin's immediate 1@S or martel's delayed 2@S?|pg|| mb|2S|nt|odysseus69: trump|pg|| mb|2N|nt|odysseus69: oops|pg|| nt|MAXLAM: Scrambling|pg|| nt|fabsayc: i am not smart enough to know when to delay balance|pg|| nt|odysseus69: crazy by Pepsi|pg|| nt|ritong: jacek is not here to watch grass growing|pg|| mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|nt|odysseus69: doubling may start|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|nt|MAXLAM: Mel colchamiro Rule of 9|pg|| nt|odysseus69: got to x|pg|| nt|fabsayc: same applies to west hand, double 1@S immediately or stay out|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|nt|odysseus69: passing has been right every time|pg|| nt|odysseus69: whew|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|medwards: Yes whew|pg|| pc|s8|nt|odysseus69: when you walk the tightrope |pg|| nt|ahollan2: killer lead|pg|| nt|ahollan2: i think|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sK|nt|odysseus69: right lead a round later|pg|| pc|s6|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|dK|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sA|nt|medwards: stand|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s3|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|d4|pg|| nt|ahollan2: i don't have strength for 5 more segments like this -- how can the players??|pg|| nt|odysseus69: dangerous way to win imps|pg|| nt|ritong: mm|pg|| nt|Psyck: The players only have to handle one hand Al, while you have to manage 4|pg|| nt|ady: how long next break?|pg|| nt|odysseus69: this was the scariest for me|pg|| nt|ahollan2: restart tomorrow|pg|| nt|ady: thx|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|c5|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 3x16 tomorrow 2x16 [only in bermuda bowl] the following day|pg|| nt|ritong: marathon|pg|| nt|odysseus69: now club guess for 1 down|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cA|nt|ahollan2: computer calendar says today = thursday but i did not know without looking|pg|| nt|ritong: but the nicest title|pg|| mc|8|nt|ady: thx|pg|| pg|| qx|c14|st||md|4SQJ976HJT4DAJ3C86,S83HQ63DQ96CAT753,ST52HA75DK74CKJ94,SAK4HK982DT852CQ2|sv|o|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: i thought 1@C=3+|pg|| mb|2S|nt|Authau: it is|pg|| mb|p|nt|vugraphc1: No comment|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: bas testing us again|pg|| nt|vugraphc1: Yeah let's go with that|pg|| pc|d6|nt|ahollan1: :)|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|sK|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 11 [1NS+1] quantin in 3N |pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|s8|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|d4|pc|d8|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|c3|pc|s5|pc|sA|pg|| pc|h9|nt|ahollan1: this type of auction always seems so bizarre to me|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h8|nt|ahollan1: i.e. why not 1@D-1@S when less risk|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h6|pc|h7|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|c2|pg|| mc|9|nt|ahollan1: but i have zero table feel and martel is multi-time world champ|pg|| nt|ahollan1: there may be other differences|pg|| pg|| qx|o15|st||md|1SQJT53HKJ7D64CAK6,SK984HQ54D53CQT54,S72HT93DKQJT8CJ73,SA6HA862DA972C982|sv|n|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: pepsi also found PASS|pg|| nt|ahollan2: i'm pretty sure at table i would bid 2@C|pg|| nt|odysseus69: disaster next door -sharp double and a misplay for 2 down-same start|pg|| mb|2D|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: but will start rethinking that position before john swanson makes it a bidding contest|pg|| nt|ritong: sooo..|pg|| nt|ritong: how much?|pg|| pc|c8|nt|ritong: i risk one off|pg|| nt|odysseus69: same and maybe same defence|pg|| nt|ahollan2: i was reminded tomorrow the playoffs for 3rd/4th only 2 sets of 16|pg|| nt|ahollan2: i have not looked at those scores - or scores for the other championship matches :(|pg|| nt|odysseus69: next door he ducked club-not best|pg|| nt|ahollan2: OR transnational|pg|| nt|odysseus69: Q108 unlikely lead|pg|| nt|Authau: http://db.worldbridge.org/repository/tourn/lyon.17/microsite/Results.htm|pg|| nt|odysseus69: orQ98|pg|| nt|ritong: difficult to predict there is clearly a trump promotion possible|pg|| nt|fabsayc: Zimmerman by 10, 1 board to score over Piedra|pg|| nt|ritong: but can they cash the side tricks first?|pg|| nt|ahollan2: is there a way to make if fly @CA?|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c3|pg|| nt|ritong: my feeling is no, so one down|pg|| nt|ahollan2: without peeking at EW cards|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|d2|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h2|nt|ritong: good first move by michael|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|odysseus69: trying to avoid 2 down|pg|| nt|ahollan2: ducking with trump A9xx common theme in the literature|pg|| nt|ahollan2: this time also prevents re-entry to north hand|pg|| nt|odysseus69: d now then another club|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg|| nt|ahollan2: @C4 was encouraging|pg|| nt|odysseus69: cant see that declare can have club q|pg|| nt|fabsayc: they only need Michael to lead club before spades set up|pg|| pc|c9|nt|ritong: ecco|pg|| nt|odysseus69: he was just checking -no extra points for speed - this was high class in both rooms|pg|| nt|odysseus69: demonstates the power of aces|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|c7|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|cA|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|hA|pg|| nt|ritong: my voodoo ain t worked very good defense|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg|| nt|ahollan2: do do that voodoo that you do so well|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h9|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|s6|pg|| pc|c5|mc|6|nt|ahollan2: what a pleasure to watch this board played & defended by world class players|pg|| pg|| qx|c15|st||md|1SQJT53HKJ7D64CAK6,SK984HQ54D53CQT54,S72HT93DKQJT8CJ73,SA6HA862DA972C982|sv|n|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|d|nt|ahollan1: 1N = semi-force|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: do you sit or run?|pg|| mb|2D|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: with no entry to @D -- i also run|pg|| pc|c2|nt|ahollan1: that said - i'm not sure i would PASS with volcker hand after 1N-DBL|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@C for me but if partnership will DBL without 3+ in all unbid suits [unless extras] then i'm not as sure|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|c7|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h7|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h9|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 11 3N down|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|c8|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|c9|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s7|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hT|pc|h6|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|s4|pc|dQ|pc|h8|pc|s5|pg|| mc|6|nt|ahollan1: well done by bessis-volcker|pg|| pg|| qx|o16|st||md|2SK865HADK6CJT8753,SAQT74HKQJ32D94C4,S92HT975DT8532CAK,SJ3H864DAQJ7CQ962|sv|e|nt|odysseus69: well done all|pg|| mb|1S|nt|ahollan2: last board of the day|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|mb|2C|mb|2H|nt|ahollan2: same start times for all 3 sets tomorrow|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|nt|ahollan2: not sure about last 2 segments on final day but would guess same as 1st & 2nd sets today - then time for awards & party|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|hA|pg|| nt|ahollan2: tomorrow 2 segments to finish playoffs 3 segments to finish venice cup and d'orsi senior trophy|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|c2|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d6|nt|odysseus69: this one got away=|pg|| pc|d4|pg|| nt|ahollan2: bermuda bowl has additional 32 boards the next day|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c5|nt|ahollan2: and some coverage of transnationals |pg|| pc|s4|pc|cA|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|sT|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h7|pc|h4|pc|c7|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|ahollan2: correction earlier start on final day|pg|| nt|Psyck: You need to set your alarm one hour earlier on the last day|pg|| pc|h2|pc|d3|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|h8|pc|c8|pc|h3|pc|h9|pg|| pc|cT|pc|d9|pc|d5|pc|c9|pg|| nt|ahollan2: i always check schedule before setting annoyingly obscene alarm clock [yes annoyingly obscene = redundant]|pg|| pc|dK|pc|s7|pc|d8|pc|d7|pg|| mc|7|nt|ritong: okay|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 1N was forcing|pg|| nt|ritong: merci a tous demain 11.00|pg|| nt|ahollan2: great match|pg|| nt|fabsayc: haha, my alarm clock not allowed to ring at 2AM pacific time|pg|| nt|ritong: sure enough, al|pg|| nt|odysseus69: all been a waste of time|pg|| nt|vugrapho1: thank you all, see you tomorrow|pg|| nt|ritong: grazie camilla|pg|| pg|| qx|c16|st||md|2SK865HADK6CJT8753,SAQT74HKQJ32D94C4,S92HT975DT8532CAK,SJ3H864DAQJ7CQ962|sv|e|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N!|nt|ahollan1: as mentioned i would probably bid 2@C with west and lose out on the chance|pg|| nt|Authau: Last board...|pg|| mb|2C|mb|2H|nt|Authau: Thank you Bas, Al...|pg|| nt|ahollan1: no more today 3 sets of 16 tomorrow then 2 sets of 16 the day after|pg|| nt|ahollan1: as expected -- great match|pg|| nt|ahollan1: other table on 13|pg|| mb|3C|mb|d|nt|vugraphc1: Thanks all, sorry for my many mistakes and technological inconveniences. I hope to see you all again tomorrow at 11 AM! :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraphc1: (It is currently 7:10 PM)|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|hA|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|c2|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d4|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s9|pc|s3|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s4|pc|d3|pc|c6|pc|s6|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cJ|pc|h3|pc|cA|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|dK|pc|d9|pg|| mc|7|nt|Authau: bye, bonne soirée|pg|| nt|ahollan1: did anyone analyze 4@H?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: a) is it biddable b) does it make|pg|| nt|ahollan1: other room on 14 please move there in single file|pg|| pg||