vg|B 2017 Spingold SF,Segment 1 of 4,I,1,15,Schwartz,0,Lavazza,0| rs|2SS-1,2SN-1,2SN=,3CS=,2HN=,4HN=,2HN-2,3NS=,2SN-1,4SN-2,3HE-1,4CN-1,4HS+1,4HS=,3NW=,3NW+1,3HW=,2HW+1,4HS=,4HS+2,3DW-1,2DW+1,4SN+1,4SN+1,3NE=,4SE-1,3NE-2,3NE-1,2HN+1,2HN-1| pn|Gold,Sementa,Schwartz,Bocchi,Madala,Stamatov,Bianchedi,Danailov|pg|| qx|o1|st||md|3SAJ74HJ72D862CQ73,ST93H985DAT3CA982,SKQ62HKT63DKJ9CJ5,S85HAQ4DQ754CKT64|sv|o|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|kareno: Hello from sunny Toronto :)|pg|| mb|2S|nt|aardv: Good afternoon|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfv: Hi!|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h8|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sA|nt|medwards: Time to wakw up and smell the coffee. Just has to say it because I think Lavazza makes a really good product.|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s6|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|kareno: I've had it on cruise ships :)|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|dA|pc|d9|pg|| nt|kareno: Mike :)|pg|| nt|medwards: Must have been a really good cruise line|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d2|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|kareno: The defense has to stay passive and away from the club suit. So far they're doing fine.|pg|| mc|7|nt|kareno: Was Celebrity on a long cruise from San Francisco to Sydney|pg|| pg|| qx|c1|st||md|3SAJ74HJ72D862CQ73,ST93H985DAT3CA982,SKQ62HKT63DKJ9CJ5,S85HAQ4DQ754CKT64|sv|o|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1H!|mb|p|mb|2S!|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s5|nt|pilogen: The Lavazza pair play transfer responses to 1@c, so 1@h shows 4+@ss|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s9|pc|sK|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|sJ|pc|s3|pg|| pc|h2|nt|pilogen: 1@c is the start for all 12-14 balanced hands|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hT|nt|pilogen: So 1@D is always unbalanced|pg|| pc|hQ|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d9|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|d6|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d8|pc|d3|pc|dK|pg|| pc|s6|pc|d7|pc|sA|pc|sT|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h8|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o2|st||md|4SJ9HT52DA85CAKQT7,SQT4HKJ8DJ32CJ985,SK8732HQ963DKC643,SA65HA74DQT9764C2|sv|n|nt|aardv: declarer could have made by setting up hearts and guessing diamonds. No reason I can see why he should|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|nt|kareno: There was no peep from e/w. |pg|| mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|c4|pg|| nt|aardv: more guessing to do on this one|pg|| nt|medwards: Yes|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|dK|nt|kareno: Yes - if he guesses well in spades (one to the dummy, then one toward his hand, ducking) he can make this|pg|| pc|d6|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|s4|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|h6|pg|| nt|kareno: Help from the defense.|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c3|pc|s5|pc|c7|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h8|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|kareno: Making 2|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c2|st||md|4SJ9HT52DA85CAKQT7,SQT4HKJ8DJ32CJ985,SK8732HQ963DKC643,SA65HA74DQT9764C2|sv|n|mb|1D!|mb|2C|mb|p|nt|pilogen: For EW 1@D is 0+ cards 10-15|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|nt|pilogen: They play a variant of Precision, 1@C showing 16+|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|d5|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d2|pc|c4|pc|d4|pg|| pc|c6|pc|d6|pc|cK|pc|c8|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c9|pc|s2|pc|s5|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|h9|pc|h7|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|hK|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sK|mc|9|pg|| qx|o3|st||md|1S32HAK76DKQT62C65,SQ64HT85DAJ94CKJ9,SAK95HJ943DCQ8742,SJT87HQ2D8753CAT3|sv|e|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|kareno: This was a disappointing defense by two great players.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|sJ|pc|s2|nt|aardv: East was playing his partner for @HKQ, declarer for @SKQ. Not unreasonable in my view|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sK|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|kareno: North didn't make a game force...|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s8|pc|h6|pc|s4|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|h3|pc|d3|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h8|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d4|pc|s9|pc|d7|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|h9|pc|d5|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|c5|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c3|st||md|1S32HAK76DKQT62C65,SQ64HT85DAJ94CKJ9,SAK95HJ943DCQ8742,SJT87HQ2D8753CAT3|sv|e|nt|pilogen: That solved declarer's problem|pg|| mb|1D!|nt|pilogen: The defense only needed to stay passive and let declarer break suits|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|ahollan4: 1@D = unbal 5+@D or 4441|pg|| nt|pilogen: Hi Al. Al is the resident system expert|pg|| nt|ahollan4: 2@H can be 3-fit with 14-15|pg|| mb|2N!|mb|p|nt|ahollan4: 2N RELAY i think FG, but not 100% certain|pg|| nt|pilogen: If they end up in 4@H they will likely make it|pg|| nt|pilogen: Cards are very friendly|pg|| mb|4C!|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sJ|pc|s2|nt|pilogen: It appears Bianchedi played very quickly from dummy|pg|| nt|pilogen: Not a good idea for a couple of reasons|pg|| nt|ahollan4: i thought 4@C = 4-fit 5@D shorness :(|pg|| nt|pilogen: One, you give away that you have nothing to think of, at least for now|pg|| nt|pilogen: Two, you give West free time to think without transmitting UI|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sK|pg|| pc|c7|nt|pilogen: UI = Unauthorised information|pg|| nt|ahollan4: but certainly madala's 4-level bid on that mediocre hand confirms that 2N was FG|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c6|pc|c9|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h3|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|c3|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg|| nt|pilogen: Double|pg|| nt|pilogen: I very much doubt that Bianchedi ducked that|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|h4|pc|d3|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o4|st||md|2SK765HQ64DA42CKQJ,ST832HT97DKJT76C4,SQJ4HAK32D853C853,SA9HJ85DQ9CAT9762|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|d|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|s4|pg|| nt|kareno: n/s may just squeak 3nt|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|medwards: Perhaps 1NT overcall would have been a better choice. But dangerous.|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|cJ|pc|c4|pg|| nt|aardv: A kib wonders whether South could have bid 2NT invitational. I don't know the answer for this partnership|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cQ|pc|h7|nt|medwards: Very soft 15|pg|| nt|kareno: I'm not suggesting a 1nt overcall - that's a little flighty vulnerable.|pg|| pc|c5|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sJ|pc|h5|pc|s7|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cK|pc|h9|pc|c8|pg|| nt|kareno: But after 2@h maybe 2nt would get them to game.|pg|| pc|sT|nt|aardv: I'm surprised that Gold passed w@H|pg|| nt|aardv: 2@H|pg|| nt|pelu: 2NT then would show 18-19|pg|| pc|d5|pc|h8|pc|sK|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|medwards: voice commentary saaid NT would show extras 2NT|pg|| mc|6|nt|aardv: (Hello Peter, I'm in a coffee shop, not listening to audio)|pg|| pg|| qx|c4|st||md|2SK765HQ64DA42CKQJ,ST832HT97DKJT76C4,SQJ4HAK32D853C853,SA9HJ85DQ9CAT9762|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2C!|nt|pilogen: Our VG operator is Kate, whom we thank for her work|pg|| mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|ahollan4: 2@C = 10-15 a) 6+@C b) 5@C 4@H/@S|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c4|nt|pilogen: No problem in 3NT here, with neither defender having tempo to cash their suit |pg|| pc|c3|nt|pilogen: Declarer can drive out the @SA then try for either major 3-3|pg|| nt|pilogen: Or even a major suit squeeze vs West if they give him the time|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|d5|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|dT|pc|c5|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| nt|pilogen: Declarer could have taken the second @d safely, after which there is a @S/@D squeeze on West, I think|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|h7|pc|c8|pg|| nt|pilogen: But that's only for the tenth trick, so who cares|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o5|st||md|3ST72H953DK9763CA9,S96HT874DJ52CKJ85,SAQJ85HAQ62DQTC42,SK43HKJDA84CQT763|sv|n|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|medwards: n-S going low again|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c4|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfv: Another two level contract :)|pg|| nt|kareno: Aww - yesterday the cyberdealer was giving us all sorts of exciting distributional hands and today just part scores :)|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|s4|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|kareno: This time they've done well to stay low I think|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d5|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|c2|pg|| pc|s9|nt|medwards: apparently the other table in the semi's are playing different boards|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|c5|pc|s8|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|kareno: Interesting - perhaps for security|pg|| pc|d6|pc|cJ|nt|medwards: probably|pg|| pc|sJ|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hJ|pc|h5|pc|h8|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|dT|pg|| nt|kareno: This is the semifinal. There will be no running score except after the quarters|pg|| mc|7|nt|aardv: some ping-pong going on here - declarer and East haven't worked out the hand|pg|| pg|| qx|c5|st||md|3ST72H953DK9763CA9,S96HT874DJ52CKJ85,SAQJ85HAQ62DQTC42,SK43HKJDA84CQT763|sv|n|mb|1S|mb|2C|mb|2S|nt|pilogen: Good start for Lavazza after the other table didn't bid the pushy 4@H and played an odd 2@H instead of 3NT|pg|| mb|3C|an|!|mb|d!|mb|p|nt|ahollan4: alerting 3@C might mean that 2N would have been stronger raise|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|pilogen: The 2@C overcall is not a thing of beauty, as we can see, but sometimes you've gotta do...|pg|| mb|p|pc|c6|nt|pilogen: This time the cards are all wrong for declarer|pg|| nt|ahollan4: this week the bulgarians have shown themselves to be fearless|pg|| nt|pilogen: Still, not sure how you can go down in 2@S|pg|| nt|pilogen: That will limit Lavazza's loss for their indiscretion|pg|| nt|pilogen: We can see that vulnerable games are bid with a certain liberality|pg|| nt|pilogen: The odds of the IMP table warrant it|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|c4|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|hJ|pc|h3|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c2|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s6|pc|s5|nt|pilogen: Declarer will need some acrobatics to limit it to one down|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s7|nt|Vugraphzfc: lost a card|pg|| nt|pilogen: No problem, not much is at stake|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o6|st||md|4SAJ6H62DKQJ32CJ72,SKT4HKQJ83DT75C43,SQ985HT9D4CAT9865,S732HA754DA986CKQ|sv|e|mb|1C!|mb|1D|mb|d|an|5+!h|nt|medwards: shoowing hearts?|pg|| nt|medwards: yes|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kareno: Neat! Click BBO Now top of the screen to see tables, lineups and running scores.|pg|| mb|3C|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|dA|pg|| pc|h4|nt|ahollan3: 1@C = 2+@C // DBL = 5+@H but operator already entered those explanations|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|h9|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hT|pc|h5|pc|h6|pg|| nt|medwards: tTHx Karen|pg|| pc|dT|pc|c6|pc|d9|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|medwards: have to attack spades now|pg|| nt|kareno: Al :) |pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|s9|pc|s3|pg|| nt|kareno: The defense need to get spades going - and they have.|pg|| pc|d7|pc|c5|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|s7|pg|| nt|kareno: But if David gets cagey (and he didn't) and underleads the ace again - the trick would be lost|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|sT|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c6|st||md|4SAJ6H62DKQJ32CJ72,SKT4HKQJ83DT75C43,SQ985HT9D4CAT9865,S732HA754DA986CKQ|sv|e|nt|pilogen: Two down unless West let's go of a @H|pg|| mb|1D!|mb|p|nt|pilogen: Lets|pg|| mb|1H|mb|3C|mb|3H|nt|ahollan4: 1@D = 10-15, 0+@D|pg|| nt|ahollan4: 2@D/@H/@S bids for ew are conventional so 1@D picks up a lot of slack|pg|| mb|4C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cA|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|dT|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|c8|pc|d8|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|c7|pc|c4|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|sT|pc|s5|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|c5|mc|9|nt|pilogen: Tried for Axx in @D, no dice, one off|pg|| pg|| qx|o7|st||md|1ST8HAK763DAJ532C6,SJ7532HT98DTCT532,SK6HQJ4D9876CQJ94,SAQ94H52DKQ4CAK87|sv|b|nt|kareno: Pretty defense by n/s|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfv: Bocchi said "good defense"|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|d|mb|3D|mb|p|nt|kareno: David Gold sitting south. Can you click on the name? Then you get lots of information|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kareno: This platform just keeps getting better and better.|pg|| pc|dT|nt|kareno: Okay then Norberto Bocchi is east|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dQ|nt|kareno: Antonio Sementa West and Richie Schwartz north|pg|| pc|dA|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|hT|pg|| nt|kareno: Finally someone bid a game :)|pg|| pc|h4|pc|c7|pc|hA|pc|h9|pg|| pc|d3|pc|c2|pc|d7|pc|dK|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|s2|pc|d8|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c3|pg|| nt|aardv: @CQ was technically the winning play there|pg|| pc|c8|nt|aardv: but any time it's working, @C4 works in practice too|pg|| nt|medwards: South knows spade ace is off|pg|| nt|aardv: i don't see how declarer can go wrong here after the double|pg|| nt|kareno: Pitch spade works .|pg|| nt|kareno: I agree, Paul. that's his only chance.|pg|| pc|s8|pc|c5|pc|c9|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cK|mc|10|nt|kareno: So he makes 5 |pg|| pg|| qx|c7|st||md|1ST8HAK763DAJ532C6,SJ7532HT98DTCT532,SK6HQJ4D9876CQJ94,SAQ94H52DKQ4CAK87|sv|b|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|d|nt|pilogen: West never gets in to play a @S through|pg|| nt|pilogen: Unless he wins the @DT|pg|| nt|pilogen: Actually he can just lead one, sorry|pg|| nt|pilogen: But a @D might prove more appealing|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|nt|pilogen: Especially if South had jumped to $@H directly|pg|| nt|pilogen: 4@H|pg|| nt|warrens: Doesn't seem like North has a 4@H bid. 4@S is actually only -1.|pg|| nt|pilogen: Al, do you know whether the 2@H bid was encouraging?|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dT|nt|pilogen: It proved appealing anyway|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg|| nt|ahollan4: i don't think 1M-2M is treated as what we call constructive - but it is not junk|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pg|| nt|pilogen: He's got 9 tricks now|pg|| nt|ahollan4: something like old 6-9/10|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h5|nt|pilogen: Yeah, ok, so not 8-11 or something as in other variations|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h8|pg|| pc|h4|pc|s4|nt|warrens: there's a 10th available in @C's|pg|| nt|ahollan4: right|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h9|pg|| nt|pilogen: Yes, declarer can finess the @C9, then force a trick|pg|| nt|pilogen: in that suit|pg|| pc|d2|pc|s7|nt|warrens: or a @D now, win the diamond return and play a @C up|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dK|pg|| nt|warrens: that endplays East|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|s2|pc|d8|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg|| nt|warrens: that way doesn't care who has the 10 as long as East has the @C AK|pg|| pc|c7|nt|warrens: :)|pg|| pc|s8|nt|pilogen: Correct|pg|| nt|warrens: well done|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o8|st||md|2STHJT32D8762CQT96,SKJ7HK976DAK9CK82,SQ9843HAQ85DQJCJ5,SA652H4DT543CA743|sv|o|nt|kareno: He has a dummy entry in diamonds for the last club... it's 650|pg|| nt|aardv: time for me to go and play cards, in my humble way|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfv: Yup, already corrected this|pg|| mb|1N|nt|aardv: thanks, everyone, enjoy the rest of the match|pg|| nt|medwards: Think claim was wrong|pg|| mb|d|an|!s and lower suit|mb|r!|an|strong|nt|kareno: It's corrected saysPatryk :)|pg|| nt|medwards: tHx|pg|| nt|kareno: See you Paul - thanks!|pg|| mb|p|an|forcing|mb|p|nt|kareno: I assume 2@h by n will follow - the double shows spades and a lower suit|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|medwards: Diamond lead?|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|kareno: Diamond looks plausible when declarer has shown major cards and dummy has shown values|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dA|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dJ|nt|medwards: West has a lot of info can he use it?|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d8|pg|| pc|d9|pc|s3|pc|d5|pc|d7|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|c9|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d6|pc|c8|nt|medwards: Yes he can|pg|| nt|kareno: spade spots interesting - he may be able to pull this out. Spade to the jack|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|kareno: I'm not as dumb as I look -- watch|pg|| mc|9|nt|Vugraphzfv: Sementa showed his hand to Gold and he agreed to 9 tricks|pg|| pg|| qx|c8|st||md|2STHJT32D8762CQT96,SKJ7HK976DAK9CK82,SQ9843HAQ85DQJCJ5,SA652H4DT543CA743|sv|o|nt|pilogen: Yes, very well done|pg|| mb|1C!|nt|ahollan4: 1@C=16+|pg|| nt|pilogen: We should note that also at the otehr table South bid 3@D on the way|pg|| nt|pilogen: And still Sementa lead a @D|pg|| mb|1S|nt|pilogen: An if Sementa and Stamatov do it, it may well prove right in the long run|pg|| nt|warrens: 3 trumps and a singleton, hard to resist|pg|| nt|pilogen: I think so, too|pg|| mb|d!|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan4: i think DBL usually 5-7 so maybe danailov stuck for a better bid [or range is different]|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|hT|nt|pilogen: Declarer is unhappy at the moment|pg|| nt|pilogen: But @Hs are 4-4 and he's got time to engineer tricks|pg|| pc|hK|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h8|pc|c3|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dJ|pc|d3|pc|d2|pg|| nt|pilogen: Can he make if North has the singleton @DJ?|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hQ|nt|ahollan4: that is what he is also trying to figure out|pg|| pc|s5|pc|h2|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|c9|pc|s7|pg|| nt|pilogen: Now he can :-)|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|ady: hi all|pg|| nt|warrens: now he can regardless of which way @D's are|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o9|st||md|3ST8H965DT93CAKJ75,S96HKJT84DJ862C86,SAKQJ3H72DQ754CT2,S7542HAQ3DAKCQ943|sv|e|nt|kareno: :)|pg|| mb|1S|mb|d|mb|1N!|an|!c|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sA|pc|s2|nt|medwards: probably need to lead trumps|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|s9|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s5|pc|d3|pc|h4|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|dT|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|d6|pc|d5|pg|| pc|s7|pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|d7|pc|hQ|pc|c7|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|c8|pc|c2|pg|| nt|kareno: So Sementa is looking for a safe crossruff.|pg|| nt|kareno: Now he can ruff a diamond high and a club low in his hand to claim.|pg|| nt|pelu: he had a safe way just ruff @s7 with @h8 - ruff a @d with @HQ @h3 to 10 and lasrt !"d rufed witg @hA |pg|| mc|9|nt|kareno: Specs pointing out he could have ruffed spade low but ......this is sexier :)|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfv: Again - Sementa and Gold agreeded on claim :)|pg|| pg|| qx|c9|st||md|3ST8H965DT93CAKJ75,S96HKJT84DJ862C86,SAKQJ3H72DQ754CT2,S7542HAQ3DAKCQ943|sv|e|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|1N!|nt|pilogen: Another yukky competitive bid by East|pg|| nt|pilogen: They are definitely not shy|pg|| mb|2H|nt|ahollan4: 1N = @C|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|sT|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s8|pc|s9|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|d3|pc|h4|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|d9|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dT|pc|d6|nt|ady: can be 9 now|pg|| pc|d5|pg|| pc|s7|pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|s3|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d7|pc|hQ|pc|c7|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|c6|pc|c2|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hJ|mc|9|pg|| qx|o10|st||md|4SA54HAKJ84D2CQ986,S9872H93DKT8753C5,SQ3HT765DAJ6CKJT3,SKJT6HQ2DQ94CA742|sv|b|mb|1C|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c5|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|c8|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c9|pc|h3|pc|c3|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|h5|pc|h2|pg|| mc|10|nt|kareno: High club for a spade return.|pg|| pg|| qx|c10|st||md|4SA54HAKJ84D2CQ986,S9872H93DKT8753C5,SQ3HT765DAJ6CKJT3,SKJT6HQ2DQ94CA742|sv|b|mb|1D!|mb|1H|mb|d!|nt|warrens: does 1@D promise 2?|pg|| nt|ahollan4: 0+@D|pg|| nt|warrens: Thanks. That's why no weak 3@D.|pg|| mb|2S!|nt|ady: west not shy|pg|| nt|ahollan4: i think DBL = 4/5@S but yesterday spec said they might have changed|pg|| nt|warrens: I would expect East to DBL to show @S's here, if it doesn't show extras|pg|| mb|p|nt|ady: club lead hold n/s to 10 tricks in hearts|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|warrens: S has at least a game try, so either 4@H or 3@C which will result in 4@H |pg|| pc|c5|pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|c8|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h2|nt|ady: now 12|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|h6|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|pilogen: EEW lead small from a doubleton|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o11|st||md|1S9642HAQT9DQ7C754,S53H74DKJ9853CKJ8,SAJ87HK53DA642CQ2,SKQTHJ862DTCAT963|sv|o|nt|kareno: But there's no beating it|pg|| mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cQ|nt|kareno: I hate that lead!!|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cK|pg|| pc|s3|nt|medwards: but he did not have a good lead|pg|| nt|kareno: Heart|pg|| nt|medwards: but I hate it too|pg|| nt|kareno: First of all I hate doubleton leads, then I hate honor doubleton even worse :)|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sT|pc|s2|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|h9|pc|h7|pg|| pc|hA|pc|d8|pc|h3|pc|h8|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s7|pc|sQ|pc|s6|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|c5|pc|c8|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d2|pc|c9|pc|d7|pg|| nt|kareno: The clever heart King by Richie Schwartz has developed another trump trick for him|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d4|pc|cT|mc|8|nt|kareno: West needed to realize that |pg|| pg|| qx|c11|st||md|1S9642HAQT9DQ7C754,S53H74DKJ9853CKJ8,SAJ87HK53DA642CQ2,SKQTHJ862DTCAT963|sv|o|nt|pilogen: and the @c West lead was teh smallest|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|pilogen: So East could not be sure he was ruffing|pg|| mb|1C!|nt|pilogen: 1@C = any bal 12-14 or nat|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan4: 1@C = 2+@C [1N is good 14-17]|pg|| mb|1D|an|!|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan4: very funny -- i was scrambling trying to find out meaning of 1@D overcall|pg|| nt|ahollan4: 1@D = 4+@H|pg|| nt|pilogen: 4M/5m? :-)|pg|| nt|pilogen: I was making that up|pg|| nt|ahollan4: no support doubles in italy [big bang system mostly child of norberto bocchi]|pg|| nt|pilogen: Yes, he's the system master|pg|| nt|pilogen: The whole team plays around the same lines|pg|| nt|pilogen: Big Bang is the name of the system|pg|| nt|pilogen: Unpublished as far as I know|pg|| mb|p|nt|warrens: That must help a lot with practicing, plus makes it easy to change partners|pg|| nt|ahollan4: actually bocchi-sementa have deviated from what the other pairs play unless the others have started to catch up|pg|| nt|pilogen: Al's got secret notes, however|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|ahollan4: so secret even i don't have the decoder ring|pg|| nt|warrens: this lead should make things pretty easy|pg|| nt|pilogen: South appears to have downgraded the @DQ|pg|| nt|ahollan4: which breakfast cereal had those when i was thin - i mean young ??|pg|| nt|warrens: reasonable, but they do make 2@S|pg|| nt|pilogen: Yes, strange for him, he's not shy either|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c8|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d2|pc|h2|pc|d7|pg|| nt|warrens: making 3|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d4|pc|h6|pc|s2|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d6|pc|h8|pc|c7|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|sT|mc|9|pg|| qx|o12|st||md|2SQJ43HQ8DAT64CKJ6,S5HJ7632D9872CQ87,SAKT7HAKT5DK5CT95,S9862H94DQJ3CA432|sv|n|nt|kareno: If he ruffed low on the third heart he would have made it|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|nt|Vugraphzfv: But he did not and he had to apologize Bocchi :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|3C!|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3H|an|4!s|mb|p|nt|kareno: This would be Puppet Stayman|pg|| nt|kareno: 3@d shows at least one major and 3@h shows spades.|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|nt|kareno: Not too good for 1nt - the range is 15-17|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Knr 19.8|pg|| nt|medwards: Three tens and 7 ctrs|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|ahollan3: 11 [3@DW-1] stamatov was in 2@D making 3|pg|| nt|kareno: The range is the range - I'm with Richie on this. HCP are useful in evaluating flat hands.|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|dK|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|h7|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h9|pg|| nt|ahollan3: stamatove opened west hand 2@D|pg|| nt|kareno: With spades 4-1 I'd be leading trump here.|pg|| pc|hT|nt|kareno: Well, Sementa could have made 3 - Richie tricked him with a clever @hK shift|pg|| pc|c2|pc|s3|pc|h3|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|s7|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s4|pc|h6|pc|sK|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|sJ|pc|c7|pg|| nt|kareno: Sementa probably should have gotten it right - but - he didn't|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s8|pc|d6|pc|d9|pg|| pc|hK|pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|kareno: A club guess is free - he has nine in and can't go down|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|c8|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d5|pc|d3|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|c9|pc|cA|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dT|pc|d8|pc|cT|pg|| pg|| qx|c12|st||md|2SQJ43HQ8DAT64CKJ6,S5HJ7632D9872CQ87,SAKT7HAKT5DK5CT95,S9862H94DQJ3CA432|sv|n|nt|ady: 3@D down 1 in OR|pg|| mb|2D!|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|ahollan4: 2@D = weak 5+@H/@S no strong option|pg|| mb|3C!|mb|p|mb|3D!|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan4: 3@C Muppet Stayman // 3@D = 4@H &/o 4@S // 3@H = 4@S, not 4@H|pg|| nt|ahollan4: 3N = mild slam try|pg|| nt|pilogen: Slam makes with a @C guess, especially after you know from the bidding how to take 4 tricks in @H|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s3|pc|h7|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|s4|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|h3|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|dK|pc|d3|pg|| pc|hT|pc|c4|pc|d6|pc|h6|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o13|st||md|3SKTHQJT543D65CA97,SQJ864HK8D832CKQ8,S753H2DAJ94CJT652,SA92HA976DKQT7C43|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1C!|an|2+|mb|2H|nt|kareno: Sorry - I just can't respond to all of your comments.|pg|| nt|ahollan3: 1@C = 2+|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|ahollan3: i think sementa must DBL because only option to show 5+@S is 3@D which creates FG|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan3: 2@S would show @C|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|kareno: The spots are working for declarer.|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h7|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|sT|pg|| nt|ahollan3: do you want to know open room contract?|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|s7|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfv: Yup|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h8|nt|ahollan3: sorry meant other room|pg|| pc|c5|pc|hA|pg|| nt|ahollan3: danailov in 4@S lead @HQ|pg|| pc|s2|pc|h3|pc|sJ|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|d4|pc|c4|nt|kareno: e/w did well to eschew the spade fit. 3nt at least has chances and should come in.|pg|| pc|c7|pg|| pc|s8|pc|c6|pc|c3|nt|kareno: And for the spec who thinks it's ALL about bidding - remember there are three important aspects to the game: bidding, declarer play and defense - and each has its important elements to learn and apply. It's not a simple game at all.|pg|| pc|c9|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d5|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|dT|pc|cA|pc|c8|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c13|st||md|3SKTHQJT543D65CA97,SQJ864HK8D832CKQ8,S753H2DAJ94CJT652,SA92HA976DKQT7C43|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1D|nt|ahollan4: 1@D still 10-15, 0+@D|pg|| mb|1H|mb|d|an|!|mb|p|mb|1S!|nt|pilogen: It definitely looks like the double shows @Ss|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan4: DBL 4/5@S // 1@S = 3@S|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|nt|pilogen: A @H ruff beats 4@s|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hQ|nt|ahollan4: do you want to know open room contract?|pg|| nt|pilogen: Tell us|pg|| nt|ahollan4: bocchi in 3N east, lead @HQ|pg|| nt|pilogen: Nice contract|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h7|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s3|nt|pilogen: NS play UDCA|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sT|pg|| nt|pilogen: So the @H 2 is singleton or two low|pg|| pc|c4|nt|ahollan4: somewhat systemic after 1@C-(2@H) sementa had to DBL since other choice was 3@D=5+@S, FG|pg|| nt|pilogen: South can hardly expect North to come up with two high card tricks|pg|| nt|pilogen: Especially since he knows both @Cs and @D are well placed for declarer|pg|| nt|ahollan4: looking at all hands madala's best play here -- follow suit|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c6|pg|| nt|pilogen: So my guess is he will go for the ruff|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h8|pc|s5|nt|warrens: He's got two chances to give his partner the ruff|pg|| pc|h6|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d7|nt|pilogen: Well done|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|d6|nt|pilogen: Nothing is ever obvious before you do it|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o14|st||md|4SJTHT876DT8CQT762,S92HAQ54D7543C985,SA875H932DQJ96CK3,SKQ643HKJDAK2CAJ4|sv|o|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3C!|mb|p|mb|3S!|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|medwards: Real transportation problems |pg|| pc|c6|pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sJ|pc|s2|nt|ahollan3: other room after same auction plus 1@C-1@D lead @C2|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| nt|kareno: The more the disparity in HCP between the two hands, the harder it is to find tricks. Edgar Kaplan was known for saying 12 opposite 12 makes game - but here with the transportation difficult it won't be easy|pg|| nt|ahollan3: other match playing different boards are on 10 & 12 mittelman over diamond by 24|pg|| nt|medwards: good memory Karen. One of the foundations of K-S|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h6|nt|kareno: I think it's hard to imagine as declarer that ducking the first club could be right. |pg|| pc|h4|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h9|pc|d2|pc|h8|pg|| pc|s9|nt|ahollan3: btw this is one of the arguments for different boards -- this fast match will probably start Q2 while other match still playing Q1|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|sT|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfv: I'm not sure|pg|| nt|kareno: Good point, Al. |pg|| nt|Vugraphzfv: They like long breaks between segments :)|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfv: You know, coffee break for Italian team :)|pg|| nt|kareno: So do I for nice naps :)|pg|| nt|kareno: That too, Patryk|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|dT|pc|d3|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|c2|pc|d4|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s4|nt|medwards: Wow|pg|| pc|d8|pc|h5|pc|s8|pg|| nt|kareno: David Gold hasn't pitched a club, so wonder why Richie Schwartz doesn't just lead one.|pg|| pc|c3|nt|ahollan3: closed room just finished 15|pg|| nt|kareno: Now Bocchi convinced Richie doesn't have another club :)|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|c14|st||md|4SJTHT876DT8CQT762,S92HAQ54D7543C985,SA875H932DQJ96CK3,SKQ643HKJDAK2CAJ4|sv|o|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1D!|mb|p|nt|ady: e/w likely to play 3NT has problems|pg|| nt|pilogen: 1@C 16+|pg|| mb|2N|nt|warrens: They have the values for 3NT, but I don't think they have the tricks|pg|| mb|p|nt|pilogen: 1@D 0-7|pg|| mb|3C!|nt|pilogen: It's a normal contract, if it makes, it makes|pg|| mb|p|mb|3S!|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|ahollan4: 2N = 22-23|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|warrens: with normal defense, I don't see any way|pg|| pc|c2|nt|ahollan4: 3@C = Muppet Stayman // 3@S=5@S|pg|| nt|warrens: a @C lead is a good start|pg|| nt|pilogen: Upgrading as usual, the devil be damned|pg|| nt|warrens: they can switch to @D's later|pg|| nt|ady: 12 imps For Lavazza on hand 13 3NT made in OR|pg|| nt|pilogen: Declarer has no tricks anyway|pg|| nt|ahollan4: bocchi-sementa same auction minus the 1@C-1@D bids|pg|| nt|pilogen: To a layman like me I see little more hope that @S 3-3 and @C 4-3|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cK|nt|warrens: right, and maybe lead a low @S first, not an honor. that way the defense can't unblock to create an entry for the @C hand|pg|| nt|pilogen: The @C 2 is from an odd number|pg|| nt|warrens: the alternative is to win the first @C and play a high @S hoping South has to win it|pg|| nt|pilogen: Well spotted Warren|pg|| pc|cA|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sT|pc|s2|pc|sA|pg|| nt|ahollan4: other match playing different boards are on 10 & 12 mittelman over diamond by 24|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cT|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c8|nt|warrens: ok, this is down quickly|pg|| pc|h2|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|c7|pc|d3|pc|d6|nt|warrens: there's a @S/@D squeeze for -1|pg|| pc|hK|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s9|pc|s5|pc|sK|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h9|nt|ahollan4: btw this is one of the arguments for different boards -- this fast match will probably start Q2 while other match still playing Q1|pg|| nt|warrens: wait, I think he cashed the last @C|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o15|st||md|1S943HKT953DJ4CQJ9,SJ876HJ74DT72CAT2,SAK52HQ2DAQ96C863,SQTHA86DK853CK754|sv|n|nt|medwards: so two in the glue|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan3: there will be voice commentary next set - not sure which table|pg|| pc|h6|nt|Vugraphzfv: As you can see this is the last board of this segment|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h4|nt|medwards: hard lead for East|pg|| pc|h2|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfv: We'll restart in 10 or 15minutes I think|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hK|pc|hJ|pc|s2|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d7|pc|d6|pc|dK|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|sA|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|s4|pc|dT|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d8|pc|c9|pc|c2|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c15|st||md|1S943HKT953DJ4CQJ9,SJ876HJ74DT72CAT2,SAK52HQ2DAQ96C863,SQTHA86DK853CK754|sv|n|nt|ady: last hand of the set thx all|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|warrens: I think South cashed the last @C and North was squeezed for -1|pg|| mb|p|nt|pilogen: The second set will start right away|pg|| nt|warrens: thanks all|pg|| nt|pilogen: Give them 15 minutes or so|pg|| mb|2D!|mb|p|nt|warrens: oh, one more board :)|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan4: 2@D is not always @H|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c8|pg|| pc|s6|nt|ady: should get spade loser away on a daimond|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sT|nt|ady: diamond|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h4|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s4|pc|s7|pc|sK|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|hT|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s2|pc|d3|pc|s9|pg|| mc|7|nt|warrens: thanks all|pg|| nt|ahollan4: other table still on 14 |pg|| nt|ady: did not try diamonds so down 1|pg|| nt|ady: thx all|pg|| pg||