vg|B 2017 Spingold R32,Segment 3 of 4,I,1,15,Fleisher,39,Kasle,40| rs|3NN-2,4CW+1,3SWx-2,1NN+1,4SS-1,3SS+1,3CSx-1,2SE-1,3NN-1,3NS-1,4NS=,3NS+2,4HW-3,2SS=,4SS+1,4SS+1,1NN-2,1NN-2,2HS-1,2HN-2,2NN-4,2SW=,3NE-1,3NE-1,4HS-1,3NN-4,3SWx-3,3SW-2,4HW+1,4HE+1| pn|Moss,Ekenberg,Cohen,Hult,Chambers,Greco,Schermer,Hampson|pg|| qx|o1|st||md|3SQ932H975D8632CQ2,SAK6H3D75CAJ97653,SJ7HQJ6DAKQJT4CKT,ST854HAKT842D9C84|sv|o|mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|2C|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|d|nt|Vugraphzfd: Sorry folks, this hand looks closer to what the players are holding :)|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfd: Welcome all to Fleisher v. Kasle - Kasle led by 1 imp at the halfway point.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|nt|reisig: Brad is brave :)|pg|| nt|fuquay: There are no extra values for that negative double|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|reisig: welcome Greg!|pg|| mb|p|nt|fuquay: Hi Rich|pg|| pc|c8|nt|reisig: I take a chance ..and say -- won't make|pg|| nt|fuquay: Ekenberg may have been thinking about doubling.|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|d2|pc|d7|pg|| pc|dK|pc|h2|pc|d3|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|h4|pc|d6|pc|c9|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|reisig: Take em and quit|pg|| pc|s8|pc|d8|pc|s6|pg|| pc|dT|pc|s4|pc|h5|pc|c3|pg|| pc|d4|pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|c5|pg|| nt|reisig: I'd claim :)|pg|| nt|fuquay: This will be a 1 IMP pickup for NS for their excellent bidding|pg|| nt|reisig: a tad faster ..pls :)|pg|| nt|fuquay: Sorry, 2 IMP |pg|| pc|c4|mc|7|pg|| qx|c1|st||md|3SQ932H975D8632CQ2,SAK6H3D75CAJ97653,SJ7HQJ6DAKQJT4CKT,ST854HAKT842D9C84|sv|o|nt|kareno: I watched Geoff Hampson live this afternoon so here I am again|pg|| mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|nt|kareno: Takes a difficult trump lead to defeat 5@c|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|d6|pc|d5|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|s6|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s7|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d4|pc|c4|pc|d2|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|cT|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|h2|pc|cQ|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o2|st||md|4S975HAKJDK872CK93,SQJT862HQ4D94C764,SK43HT875DAJ6CQT2,SAH9632DQT53CAJ85|sv|n|nt|fuquay: And we have seen our first lead change of the night|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|mb|3S|nt|Vugraphzfd: Quite possibly the first of many!|pg|| mb|d|nt|reisig: 3 is gutsy|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|fuquay: white vs red I think it is "standard"|pg|| pc|h5|nt|reisig: Maybe -- I play a diff game|pg|| pc|h2|nt|fuquay: This looks like it is slated for down 3 --- game would have been difficult but not impossible for NS|pg|| nt|reisig: 3@s is moronic ..to me .. w 6-3-2-2 |pg|| pc|hK|pc|h4|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sA|pg|| nt|reisig: If that's "standard" -- I'll switch to bowling|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|hQ|pc|h8|pg|| nt|fuquay: The other room's NS rests in a partscore so this will be a loss for the Kasle team|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| nt|fuquay: They need to get clubs going before declarer sets up a diamond trick|pg|| nt|reisig: @c 10 seems "normal"|pg|| nt|fuquay: Hult did not open the bidding here which indicates that EW are not of the "open every 11 count" school|pg|| nt|reisig: No rush :)|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|d9|pg|| nt|fuquay: Greco-Hampson are and Hampson opened|pg|| pc|d7|pc|c6|pc|d6|pc|dT|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hJ|pc|s6|pc|h7|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s3|pc|c5|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|c8|pc|s9|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c4|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d8|pc|s8|pc|hT|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|cT|nt|reisig: claim pls|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c9|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|h9|pc|cK|pg|| pg|| qx|c2|st||md|4S975HAKJDK872CK93,SQJT862HQ4D94C764,SK43HT875DAJ6CQT2,SAH9632DQT53CAJ85|sv|n|mb|1D!|mb|d|mb|1H!|an|spades|mb|1N|mb|p|an|< 3 spades|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h2|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|h5|pg|| nt|kareno: 1@d just says, 'I have some sort of opening bid,' a peep.|pg|| nt|ady: hi all|pg|| nt|ahollan4: 1@D=(10)11-15, 2+@D // 1@H=4+@S // PASS = 0-2@S|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|h4|nt|Vugraphzff: Greco played the spade queen instead of his heart. "just pick it up"|pg|| pc|h7|pg|| nt|ahollan4: if not already mentioned -- there is voice commentary at this table|pg|| nt|kareno: And written :)|pg|| nt|kareno: I can actually do voice on this computer but two is enough|pg|| nt|medwards: Diamond eight is in play|pg|| pc|hA|pc|sQ|pc|h8|pc|h6|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|h9|pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|hT|pg|| nt|Vugraphzff: Schermer was told they don't open an average 10 count, so he will likely find the club jack|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|c4|pg|| nt|Vugraphzff: or not :)|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d9|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|sK|pc|c8|pc|s9|pc|s8|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|sT|pg|| pc|d8|mc|8|nt|kareno: It's IMPS, boys and girls ... and there's an endplay anyway|pg|| nt|ahollan4: halftime scores http://bridgewinners.com/tournament/ko/2017-summer-nabc-spingold-knockout-teams/grid/|pg|| pg|| qx|o3|st||md|1SQJ742H93DA6CJT84,ST8HKQT64DT4CAQ62,SK963HA8DKJ87CK73,SA5HJ752DQ9532C95|sv|e|nt|fuquay: 5 IMPs Fleisher where it looks like it could have been 9|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|3H!|an|weak|mb|4S|mb|p|nt|reisig: 3@s or 4@s?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|nt|fuquay: This game may come down to a club guess|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h9|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h3|nt|reisig: Really?|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h8|pg|| pc|d9|nt|fuquay: It would have looked good if W had @DQ, and W had the opening hand|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|h4|pc|d8|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s8|nt|fuquay: This is the kind of play that we don't think about when we see all four hands, but does occur to declarer seeing only two|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sA|pg|| pc|d3|pc|sQ|pc|h6|pc|dK|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|fuquay: If W ducks this, S will not be able to play another club without getting a ruff|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|c5|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|s5|pg|| nt|fuquay: If he guesses right, though he could play spade to K, spade to 7, and then club t1n|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c3|st||md|1SQJ742H93DA6CJT84,ST8HKQT64DT4CAQ62,SK963HA8DKJ87CK73,SA5HJ752DQ9532C95|sv|e|mb|p|nt|ahollan4: 1@H = 10-15|pg|| mb|1H|mb|d|nt|ahollan4: 3@D or 3@H to show mixed raise??|pg|| mb|3D|an|7-9 or so and 4+ hearts|nt|ahollan4: 3M-1 = mixed raise common treatment|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan4: would 3@H by south show good @S bid with immediate 3@S = competitive?|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|ahollan4: or maybe one shows 4@S and the other 5+@S?|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s5|nt|ady: needs to pin 9 clubs to make 4|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s8|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|d5|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|sT|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|dT|pc|d7|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|ady: Q@D best|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cJ|nt|kareno: Well, east felt endplayed ...|pg|| nt|ady: now 10 tricks|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o4|st||md|2SJ862HKQT963DCJ93,SA4H874DAJ73CKQT7,SQ7HADQ9854CA8642,SKT953HJ52DKT62C5|sv|b|mb|1N|nt|fuquay: Anyway down one, for our second lead change|pg|| mb|p|mb|2C|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|reisig: I expect 3@c ..but ....|pg|| mb|3C|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|fuquay: Presumably, E's bidding showed some values so W could double here|pg|| pc|sA|nt|reisig: Close to making...but|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s3|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s8|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|cA|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|h8|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|c9|pc|d3|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|d5|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h4|pc|d8|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|reisig: soo close...but down 1|pg|| pc|h9|nt|fuquay: If some of S's club spots had been in N this might have been a make|pg|| nt|reisig: Shld be easy to ruff high ..and cash @c|pg|| nt|fuquay: He can either cash @C or play a @D after ruffing high|pg|| nt|fuquay: Depending on which tricks he wants to win|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|d9|pc|s5|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c4|st||md|2SJ862HKQT963DCJ93,SA4H874DAJ73CKQT7,SQ7HADQ9854CA8642,SKT953HJ52DKT62C5|sv|b|mb|1N|an|13+- 16|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|d|mb|p|an|2 spades|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kareno: Halftime results available - ask aholland|pg|| nt|ahollan4: www.bridgewinners.com then very easy to figure out|pg|| mb|p|pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg|| nt|Vugraphzff: XX by either Greco or Hampson would be "penalty oriented"|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|s2|pc|d3|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h7|pc|c6|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h8|pc|s7|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|ahollan4: ew 1N range 1/2/3nv: (13)14-16 3v/4: 15-17 NS 1N good 15-18|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|s6|pc|d7|pg|| pc|h3|pc|sA|pc|c2|pc|c5|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s8|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|c7|pc|d8|pg|| nt|ady: lost a trick|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o5|st||md|3SKJ65HQ87DQJCQJ74,SA974HT2D962CAK82,SQ82HA963DAK83C93,ST3HKJ54DT754CT65|sv|n|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|reisig: Surely -- 3NT coming|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h5|nt|reisig: It's poss to make (Q now) - tough hand|pg|| nt|fuquay: One way to make (double dummy) would be to play @HQ and the two diamonds,|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hT|pc|h3|pg|| nt|reisig: So far ...seems on right track|pg|| nt|fuquay: followed by spade to Q, diamonds, at some point @HA, and eventually forcing W to give a club tric|pg|| pc|sK|nt|reisig: Still OK|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfd: Cohen "I guess I'll play you for the ace" (after the hesitation)|pg|| nt|reisig: :)|pg|| nt|reisig: Cashing @ds -- to me ..seems right|pg|| nt|fuquay: If spades are 3-3, the @Ds are the entry to the fourth spade so maybe not obvious|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s7|pc|sQ|pc|sT|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|hJ|pc|h7|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|c9|pg|| nt|fuquay: E probably had a complete count of the hand which makes this play correct|pg|| nt|reisig: well - down 1|pg|| pc|c8|pc|s8|pc|c5|pc|c4|pg|| pc|sA|pc|h9|pc|d4|pc|s6|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c5|st||md|3SKJ65HQ87DQJCQJ74,SA974HT2D962CAK82,SQ82HA963DAK83C93,ST3HKJ54DT754CT65|sv|n|nt|kareno: Had he ducked the heart he may have worked out the trumps but would have a club to lose.|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|an|asking|mb|p|nt|ahollan4: 2N = RELAY|pg|| mb|3N|an|max with 3 spades, no shortness|nt|ahollan4: 2@S = 3/4-fit|pg|| nt|ahollan4: 3N = 3-fit, no shortness, MAX|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kareno: 2nt asks about the spade raise. Schermer who would accept a game try, accepts in notrump with only three spades.|pg|| pc|cA|nt|ahollan4: NS opening 1@C/@D tend to be more sound than in newer partnerships|pg|| nt|ahollan4: but they are opening more today than 5 years ago|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|c4|pg|| nt|ady: now low clubs best|pg|| nt|kareno: This is a VERY long lived partnership|pg|| nt|ahollan4: different boards after 3 shen 33-0 set against diamond to lead by 37|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|ahollan4: so strange to mention team diamond but have greco-hampson in THIS match [now part of team fleisher]|pg|| pc|sK|nt|ady: has the look of down 1|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|sT|pg|| nt|kareno: Eric Greco could be the slowest player in the Spingold. |pg|| nt|kareno: But it's declarer who is huddling now.|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|h2|pg|| pc|c5|mc|8|nt|kareno: Seemed to me declarer might better have cashed the diamonds in his hand beforeplaying the second spade.|pg|| nt|kareno: However once Hampson got on lead it was all over.|pg|| pg|| qx|o6|st||md|4SKQJ3HK75DJT9CAT6,S642H93D865CKQJ84,SA98HAQ86DAK2C932,ST75HJT42DQ743C75|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|reisig: prob reach 4NT|pg|| mb|4N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|cA|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h9|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hT|pc|h5|pc|d8|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s7|pc|sQ|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|s9|pc|sT|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d5|nt|fuquay: He can make 5 now by throwing E in with fourth heart, but this is risky|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d7|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|d9|pc|d6|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c6|st||md|4SKQJ3HK75DJT9CAT6,S642H93D865CKQJ84,SA98HAQ86DAK2C932,ST75HJT42DQ743C75|sv|e|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzff: Hampson and Schermer are looking at Chambers hand from the last bd|pg|| mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cJ|nt|Vugraphzff: Chambers on seeing dummy "this one will be a little easieer"|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|cT|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c9|nt|Vugraphzff: EW lead lower of touching honors, without respect to length in the suit|pg|| nt|kareno: Fourth spade will kill Hampson's hand|pg|| pc|s5|pc|cA|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dK|mc|11|pg|| qx|o7|st||md|1SAKT43HJ6D954CJ63,SJ96HQ75432DKJCK8,SQ8HK98D872CAT752,S752HATDAQT63CQ94|sv|b|nt|fuquay: Another way he could have made 5 was to duck two clubs and then do a simple squeeze against E|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|1S|mb|2S!|an|5+!h|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|nt|reisig: 2@s ..not 2@h?|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfd: 2@s, alerted|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|reisig: hmmm|pg|| mb|p|nt|fuquay: This looks -3|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|sT|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|s9|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sJ|pc|cT|pc|s7|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c9|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|hT|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|c6|pc|h7|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h9|pc|hA|pc|h6|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|c7|st||md|1SAKT43HJ6D954CJ63,SJ96HQ75432DKJCK8,SQ8HK98D872CAT752,S752HATDAQT63CQ94|sv|b|nt|ahollan4: rusinow = 2nd of touching honors i think that helps some who think "lower of touching" means QJT leads T|pg|| nt|Vugraphzff: here he led Jack from KQJ|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D!|an|2+ diamonds|mb|p|nt|ahollan4: 1@D = 10-15, 2+@D|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2S|nt|ahollan4: i wasn't thinking about that hand Joe -- just someone asked if your explanation was "rusinow"|pg|| nt|ahollan4: curiously greco-hampson CC circles BOTH Q & J for lead from KQJx|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan4: 1N denied 4@S|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h8|pc|hA|nt|ritong: hi everyone:)|pg|| pc|h6|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hJ|nt|Vugraphzff: welcome, Henri|pg|| pc|h4|nt|ritong: hey joe|pg|| pc|h9|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sJ|pc|d2|pc|s7|pg|| nt|ady: 2 heats can go 1 down defence to 2 spades of to a bad start problem when diamond opening random|pg|| nt|Vugraphzff: Schermer: "looking pretty good" Hampson "if only he had a club"|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| pc|hK|mc|8|nt|ritong: :)|pg|| pg|| qx|o8|st||md|2SKQT86HA3DKCAT965,SA5HQT987DJ5CK842,SJ97HJ52DAT9632CQ,S432HK64DQ874CJ73|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|reisig: Likely 4@s coming ..so not much to talk about|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h9|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|d4|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|c7|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|s7|pc|c3|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|h3|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|s6|pc|h7|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c8|st||md|2SKQT86HA3DKCAT965,SA5HQT987DJ5CK842,SJ97HJ52DAT9632CQ,S432HK64DQ874CJ73|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|ahollan4: NS actually still allow opening 1@C sometimes with 5@S & 5@C|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|nt|ahollan4: one more curiosity - i think the play drury but NOT reverse drury [so P-1M-2@C-2@D=weakest]|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ady: needs ace and another spade against 4 spades|pg|| pc|hT|nt|ahollan4: they do that to account for times 4-card major is opened opposite passed hand|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|d7|pg|| pc|cA|nt|ady: but still can get home giving up 2 club tricks|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c4|nt|ritong: yes|pg|| pc|s7|pc|c7|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|h3|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|s6|pc|h7|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c8|pc|s9|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|s8|pc|h8|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|sJ|pc|d8|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dQ|mc|11|pg|| qx|o9|st||md|3S962HT873D843C876,SK87HK9DK62CKQ532,SAT43HQJ42DA5CAT4,SQJ5HA65DQJT97CJ9|sv|e|nt|fuquay: Did he really ruff a diamond there or was it a heart?|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfd: Heart, claim|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|fuquay: thx|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dA|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|hK|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|d4|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s2|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|h9|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|c2|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d8|pc|d6|pc|c4|pg|| pc|d9|pc|c6|pc|c5|pc|cT|pg|| pc|d7|pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s6|pc|s7|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|sT|pg|| mc|5|pg|| qx|c9|st||md|3S962HT873D843C876,SK87HK9DK62CKQ532,SAT43HQJ42DA5CAT4,SQJ5HA65DQJT97CJ9|sv|e|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dJ|nt|ahollan4: 1N = good 15-18|pg|| nt|ahollan4: but regardless of range -- south hand SUCKS|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d2|nt|kareno: So this will go down at only 50 a trick.|pg|| pc|dA|pg|| nt|ritong: n the other hand, opps have 25 hcp and vulnerable|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|hK|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|d4|pg|| nt|ady: takes heart lead to beat 3NT e/w|pg|| nt|kareno: And nobody really has a double|pg|| nt|ritong: so, as karen underlined, gpoing down is not disastrous|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s2|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|h9|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|c5|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d8|pc|d6|pc|c4|pg|| pc|d9|pc|c6|pc|c3|pc|cT|pg|| nt|ady: 100 and e/w could make 120|pg|| pc|d7|pc|c7|pc|c2|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s6|pc|s8|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|sT|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cA|mc|5|pg|| qx|o10|st||md|4S94HAQT962DJ64C94,SK86HKJ73DT985CK7,SAQJHDQ732CAT6532,ST7532H854DAKCQJ8|sv|b|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dT|nt|fuquay: In the other room the same contract was played by north --- after a multi 2@D I believe|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|d3|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c9|pc|c7|nt|fuquay: Declarer can't get to his hand to try to draw trump (or to finesse spade)|pg|| nt|fuquay: At this point, it is probably best for him to duck this club, win the second, and play a third club pitching a diamond|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| nt|fuquay: Although I am not sure that Moss knows for sure that it is AK doubleton in @D|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|dJ|pc|s8|pg|| nt|fuquay: I like it when they do what I recommend :)|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|h8|pc|h9|pc|d8|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s7|pg|| pc|d7|pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|d9|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|c5|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h7|mc|7|nt|fuquay: Well played to tie the match|pg|| pg|| qx|c10|st||md|4S94HAQT962DJ64C94,SK86HKJ73DT985CK7,SAQJHDQ732CAT6532,ST7532H854DAKCQJ8|sv|b|mb|p|mb|2D|an|weak one maj or Big 4-4-4-1|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|ahollan4: 2@D = weak 2@H/@S OR some 4441 w/20+|pg|| nt|ritong: wave the white flag|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan4: 2@H = pass/correct|pg|| pc|dK|nt|ritong: they have to score a @d ruff to beat this, at first sight|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dT|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d5|pc|d3|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|ritong: including the strong three suiter in the multi is undoubtedly a great idea|pg|| nt|ady: dont think can make cant get back and forth|pg|| nt|Vugraphzff: director announces we are halfway through the time for this segment of 15, so we are on a good pace|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c7|pc|c2|pg|| nt|ritong: proper developements allow to know exact shape in case of 5440|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s4|pc|s8|nt|kareno: Originally it was played in Europe with the three-suiter but not allowed here.|pg|| pc|sQ|pg|| nt|ady: that help declarer|pg|| nt|ritong: ah|pg|| nt|ady: but still problems|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c9|pc|cK|pg|| nt|kareno: Didn't give up anything |pg|| nt|kareno: Ruff club with ace (very double dummy) and spade finesse for the diamond but sets up an extra heart for the defense|pg|| nt|ady: I think 2 down|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|dJ|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| pc|d7|pc|h8|pc|h9|pc|d8|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|c3|pc|h4|pg|| nt|Vugraphzff: Greco claims -2|pg|| mc|6|pg|| qx|o11|st||md|1SJTHQ742DKQ97CQ62,SKQ9832HJ6DT6CAK7,SA7654HA85D542C83,SHKT93DAJ83CJT954|sv|o|mb|p|mb|2S!|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cJ|nt|fuquay: 2@S was a likely make so taking it out looks correct|pg|| nt|fuquay: I am looking at EW convention card and the bid here does not fit|pg|| nt|fuquay: But it is a WBF card so maybe they are doing something here|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c5|nt|fuquay: Vulnerable according to the WBF card 2@S would be intermediate, 10-13|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cK|pc|c8|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|fuquay: My guess is they are doing that nonvul here as well|pg|| nt|fuquay: But if so, why wasn't E doing some doubling?|pg|| pc|sA|pc|h3|pc|sT|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|d6|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|h5|pc|cT|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|d8|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s5|pc|dJ|pc|d7|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s6|pc|h9|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|hT|pc|h4|pg|| mc|4|pg|| qx|c11|st||md|1SJTHQ742DKQ97CQ62,SKQ9832HJ6DT6CAK7,SA7654HA85D542C83,SHKT93DAJ83CJT954|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|ahollan4: 1@S = 10-15 // 1N = semi-force|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kareno: Another void in declarer's suit!|pg|| pc|c8|nt|ady: south not delighted with lead|pg|| nt|ritong: well it was onside|pg|| nt|ritong: the @c Q i mean|pg|| pc|c4|nt|kareno: oui|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cA|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|d3|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sQ|nt|ritong: greco will not believe his eyes, finding @s J10 bare|pg|| pc|s4|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|h2|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|dT|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h4|pc|c7|pc|h8|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|cK|pc|c3|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sA|nt|ritong: clean living|pg|| pc|c9|pc|sT|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o12|st||md|2SJT432HQJT6DJ8CQ6,SQHAK732D53CA9852,SK75H54DQ9642CKJ4,SA986H98DAKT7CT73|sv|n|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2H!|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s8|pc|sT|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h8|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|c6|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|h3|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cJ|pc|c3|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pg|| pc|c5|pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|s2|pg|| pc|c8|pc|d6|pc|s9|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d8|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dJ|pc|d5|pc|d9|pg|| pc|dT|pc|hT|pc|h7|pc|dQ|pg|| pg|| qx|c12|st||md|2SJT432HQJT6DJ8CQ6,SQHAK732D53CA9852,SK75H54DQ9642CKJ4,SA986H98DAKT7CT73|sv|n|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|ritong: interesting decision coming for hampson|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|nt|ritong: 2@c unalerted, joe?|pg|| nt|ady: e/w will do well not to get to high|pg|| mb|2N|nt|kareno: I think 2nt may be a little extended. |pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ritong: even with strong @c, it can be of interest to use gazzilli model|pg|| mb|p|nt|kareno: And naturally west promotes his spade q|pg|| pc|s2|nt|Vugraphzff: no, 2@C just natural|pg|| nt|ritong: fine ty|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| nt|kareno: If they give him a second spade trick, Geoff Hampson may bring it in|pg|| nt|ady: 5 clubs looks a make just lose 2 trump tricks|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s9|pc|s4|pc|h2|pg|| nt|ady: nice defence|pg|| nt|kareno: Good defense - he cannot make it now|pg|| nt|ahollan4: are there really 11 tricks in 5@C?|pg|| nt|kareno: I don't see it.|pg|| pc|s8|nt|ady: why not?|pg|| pc|sT|pc|c5|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s3|pc|c8|nt|ady: ruff 2 hearts set the 5th heart?|pg|| pc|d2|pc|c3|pg|| nt|Vugraphzff: Greco (who has been away getting water): "no spades" Hamp "no, that was the 13th spade"|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h8|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|c4|pc|h9|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cK|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|c9|nt|ady: well done|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o13|st||md|3SAHAQJT985DAJ5C63,SK54H72DK3CAKT854,SJ83H4DQT984CQJ92,SQT9762HK63D762C7|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|nt|fuquay: 3N in other room seems an odd choice of contract on these cards|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|nt|ahollan3: closed room just finished the set|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|d7|pc|c6|pg|| nt|fuquay: Hopefully, E will be able to tell W which suit to lead|pg|| pc|s4|nt|fuquay: The diamond 7 was discouraging so we get the correct spade play|pg|| nt|ahollan3: down 1 but 100 honors|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|h3|pg|| nt|fuquay: Down 1 will be 7 IMPs for NS|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h7|pc|d4|pc|hK|pg|| pc|sT|pc|h9|pc|sK|pc|s3|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c13|st||md|3SAHAQJT985DAJ5C63,SK54H72DK3CAKT854,SJ83H4DQT984CQJ92,SQT9762HK63D762C7|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ritong: disciplined pass|pg|| mb|1H|nt|ritong: bad suit + playability other major|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|kareno: If north gets lively in notrump, a spade lead will do damage|pg|| nt|ritong: lead or shift|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ritong: let s see that|pg|| pc|s9|nt|ritong: freeze!|pg|| pc|sA|nt|ady: this expensive|pg|| nt|ritong: schermer: "uh oh..."|pg|| nt|kareno: I heard it here all the way to my B&B|pg|| pc|s5|nt|ady: down 400 instead of + 140|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|ady: needs K@H stiff|pg|| pc|h7|pc|d4|pc|hK|pg|| pc|s7|pc|c3|pc|sK|pc|s8|pg|| nt|ahollan4: 2 to play shen leads diamond by 35|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|d7|pc|hJ|pg|| mc|5|pg|| qx|o14|st||md|4ST54H84DAK983CA75,SAQJ8763H65D76CK2,SK92HAKJT3DJT4C64,SHQ972DQ52CQJT983|sv|o|nt|ritong: i predicted 1@d 3@s 3NT next room, here|pg|| nt|fuquay: Another lead change for those scoring at home|pg|| mb|p|nt|ritong: perhaps he has too much for 3@s|pg|| mb|1D|mb|3S|nt|ritong: or not|pg|| nt|ahollan3: i thought EW had toy so that east could open 2@H [4@H 5+@C/@D, 0-9 hcp]|pg|| nt|ahollan3: wanted to see that in action :(|pg|| nt|ahollan3: is it possible that ACBL disallowed that treatment??|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|nt|fuquay: In the other room Chambers (a conservative bidder) passed the S hand --- there are not many experts these days who would do that |pg|| nt|ritong: sigh|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ritong: betrayed again|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|h6|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d2|nt|fuquay: There was a similar situation earlier in this set where Cohen chose a negative double rather than a close 3N. |pg|| nt|ahollan3: chambers-schermer open 1N = good 15-18 so minor suit openers more sound than just AAK|pg|| nt|ritong: not my point to argue with him, but @s Kxx looks really good|pg|| nt|ritong: you can even duck once if needed|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d7|pg|| nt|fuquay: The @ST here may be used in this hand for an uppercut|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h4|pc|h5|pg|| nt|ahollan3: 3@SX-2 vs 3N making only 2 imps|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dA|pc|s8|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|nt|fuquay: Ekenberg was criticized earlier this set for a frisky 3S that got doubled --- here we can't really complain about the strength|pg|| pc|c3|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sK|nt|fuquay: Win the K and play a @H|pg|| pc|c8|pc|s5|pg|| nt|ahollan3: my comment was under assumption that "betrayed again" was Henri wanting to see 3N|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|ritong: yes|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s9|pc|c9|pc|c7|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h9|pc|c5|pc|s3|pg|| nt|fuquay: Maybe Ekenberg will stop bidding 3@S after this set|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|cT|pc|cA|pg|| pc|d9|pc|s6|pc|h3|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|d8|pg|| nt|ahollan3: ok if down 3 then 500 vs 400 just a different 2 imp difference|pg|| pg|| qx|c14|st||md|4ST54H84DAK983CA75,SAQJ8763H65D76CK2,SK92HAKJT3DJT4C64,SHQ972DQ52CQJT983|sv|o|nt|Vugraphzff: match is tied through the 10th deal of this set|pg|| nt|medwards: another void|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan4: i told you NS opening 1@D are sound|pg|| nt|ritong: indeed they are|pg|| pc|hK|nt|ahollan4: one more reason i would never have made it in roth-stone world|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|h6|pg|| nt|ritong: 3NT is tough to beat|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|d6|pg|| nt|ady: 3 down best defence|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|d7|pg|| nt|ady: trump promotion|pg|| pc|d8|pc|s8|pc|d4|pc|d5|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|c3|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|ritong: an auction like 1@d 3@s 3NT is quite plausible|pg|| pc|sK|pc|c8|pc|s5|pg|| nt|kareno: Now or never.|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h4|pc|h5|pg|| pc|s9|pc|c9|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|ady: 2 down|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o15|st||md|1ST864H9853D2CAT85,SJ53HA42DKQ4CQ943,SK2H7DJT987CKJ762,SAQ97HKQJT6DA653C|sv|n|nt|ritong: make that 3 imps but no big deal|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1D!|an|!h|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|4C!|nt|ritong: woumd we like to be in slam?|pg|| mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|4H|nt|ritong: looking at @s Kx onside we sure do, but|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|fuquay: EW open all 11-13 balanced hands 1@C|pg|| nt|warrens: it's close. the extra @d and the extra @s need to be handled|pg|| nt|warrens: i vote no on 6|pg|| nt|ritong: greco/hampson would have had a huge board had the opener held four+ @ds|pg|| nt|ahollan3: hampson's 3@H rebid was explained as FG, 5@H 4+@D, short @C|pg|| nt|ritong: they have an effecient way to treat east hand|pg|| nt|ahollan3: set scores posted to http://bridgewinners.com/tournament/ko/2017-summer-nabc-spingold-knockout-teams/grid/|pg|| nt|ahollan3: restart after short break|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s3|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|h7|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|c7|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h9|pc|c3|pc|c2|pg|| pc|d3|pc|c5|pc|dK|pc|d7|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d8|pc|d5|pc|c8|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s2|pc|s7|pc|s6|pg|| mc|11|nt|fuquay: Thanks all|pg|| pg|| qx|c15|st||md|1ST864H9853D2CAT85,SJ53HA42DKQ4CQ943,SK2H7DJT987CKJ762,SAQ97HKQJT6DA653C|sv|n|nt|ady: last hand of the set thx all |pg|| nt|ahollan4: set scores get posted to http://bridgewinners.com/tournament/ko/2017-summer-nabc-spingold-knockout-teams/grid/|pg|| nt|Vugraphzff: other table is well behind this one and 33 minutes still on the clock, so I'd guess we will start the 4th quarter in about 45 minutes from now|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D!|an|2+ diamonds|nt|kareno: Special thanks to our Operator and to 'Systems Al Hollander.'|pg|| nt|ahollan4: 1@D = 10-15, 2+@D|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|ahollan4: 1N = DENIES 4@S|pg|| mb|p|mb|3H!|an|GF with 5 hearts, 4-5 diamonds, short!C|nt|ahollan4: 2@D=ART FG|pg|| nt|ahollan4: so 3@H must be nat slam try|pg|| nt|ritong: they seem tohave a toy for this stuff|pg|| nt|ritong: guess hampson would be delighted to hear about @ds no cigar here|pg|| nt|ahollan4: or specific hand that Joe entered as explanation|pg|| nt|ritong: whenever i make a risky remark joe tries to help i love him|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan4: 3 working cards for greco but the black suits = dreck|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kareno: It's an eyelash away from a slam|pg|| pc|cA|nt|ahollan4: i wonder how they treat 3@S over 3@H|pg|| pc|c3|nt|ritong: notice that he has a full stopper in @cs with Q9xx no layout he loses the first five with the lead coming from his left|pg|| pc|c7|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|h7|pg|| nt|ahollan4: other table on 12|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|c2|pg|| nt|ahollan4: giant killer Sieg has lost to Pepsi w/d after 3 down 126|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pg|| pc|c6|pc|d3|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|hA|pc|s2|pc|hQ|pc|h8|pg|| pc|s3|pc|d7|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|c4|pc|cK|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|d8|pg|| pc|d5|pc|c5|pc|dK|pc|d9|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dT|pc|d6|pc|c8|pg|| pc|s5|mc|11|nt|ady: thx|pg|| nt|ady: bye all|pg|| nt|kareno: So what time do you think we'll restart, Al?|pg|| nt|ahollan4: 10-15 min after slower table finishes|pg|| nt|Vugraphzff: probably in about half an hour, maybe a few more if the other table takes the full time for this set|pg|| nt|kareno: I'm off for a nap. Had a long day with much too much walking|pg|| pg||