vg|BBO3-2017EOC,O-SW9_10,I,21,30,LAVAZZA,0,MARILL,0| rs|6HEx-1,6SNx-1,5CNx-2,4CN=,6DS=,6DN=,5HNx-2,5HNx-2,3SW=,4SW=,3HW=,5SNx-2,4SW=,4HW+1,3HE=,3DS-1,3NE=,3NW+1,4HE=,5DNx-3| pn|SEMENTA,P CRONIER,BOCCHI,MARILL,TOFFIER,G DUBOIN,PILON,D BILDE|pg|| qx|o21|st||md|3SAJ86HA653DJ52C63,SKT7HKDT98763CKJ7,SQ954HQT4DQ4CAQ94,S32HJ9872DAKCT852|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pg|| qx|c21|st||md|3SAJ86HA653DJ52C63,SKT7HKDT98763CKJ7,SQ954HQT4DQ4CAQ94,S32HJ9872DAKCT852|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pg|| qx|o22|st||md|4ST6HAKJDAT9543CA2,SAKQ84HT4DK6CK943,S753H76DQCQJT8765,SJ92HQ98532DJ872C|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|d|mb|3C|mb|5C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|s5|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|h5|pc|c2|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|c5|pc|d7|pg|| pc|c6|pc|h2|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| pc|d4|pc|h4|pc|c7|pc|d8|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|hT|pg|| pc|d5|pc|s4|pc|c8|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|c9|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c22|st||md|4ST6HAKJDAT9543CA2,SAKQ84HT4DK6CK943,S753H76DQCQJT8765,SJ92HQ98532DJ872C|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|2S!|nt|Authau: Hi all, hi Zsofia:)|pg|| nt|vugraphc3: NS arrived late to the table.. so they cannot play the 1st board.|pg|| mb|2N!|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|Authau: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Rhq2Qs4xqA live video|pg|| mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sJ|nt|Authau: Running scores http://db.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/17montecatini/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=1401&qshowflag=1|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|sT|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|s9|pc|c2|pg|| nt|vugraphc3: so the director reshuffled them a new board1.. so we enter the score later, but we cannot show that board.. since it isn't in our database :( sorry for all.|pg|| nt|chmitty: Bonjour :) Hi all|pg|| nt|Authau: oh no Brigitta, not your fault:) thx anyway|pg|| nt|Authau: Salut Pierre|pg|| pc|c5|pc|h2|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|h3|pg|| mc|10|nt|vugraphc3: so now they play the board, we don't have :) i try to give you insight notes about it :)|pg|| nt|chmitty: is it a grand slam :) ?|pg|| nt|Authau: if they are still in -3 doubled don't tell us :)|pg|| nt|vugraphc3: so far Dennis opened 1H and they overcalled 2H (micheals)|pg|| nt|chmitty: The "cut" line - for the top 16 teams, will be around 120 VP's|pg|| nt|chmitty: live results : http://db.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/17montecatini/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=1401&qshowflag=1|pg|| nt|vugraphc3: Duboin jumped to 4H and now Pilon is deeply concentrating on his cards :)|pg|| nt|vugraphc3: And chooses the marvelous 4N :) with god knows what hand :)|pg|| nt|chmitty: In the meantime : Lavazza will qualify (not a surprise :)) and Marill can afford to lose 15-5 but not more|pg|| nt|vugraphc3: Now Dennis made a 5D call, which is either lead directing, or they are going for a slam :)|pg|| nt|vugraphc3: Duboin bid 5H, but Pilon can't stand it and bidding 5S|pg|| nt|vugraphc3: followed by 2 passes :) now it's giorgios time to think|pg|| nt|vugraphc3: and he still didnt give up, 6@D|pg|| nt|vugraphc3: 6@s from Pilon.. we are getting to the grand that was wished before the hand :)|pg|| nt|ferlema: www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjZq8Be-j-s&feature=youtu.be|pg|| nt|vugraphc3: Dennis doubled|pg|| nt|chmitty: If you can't give us the 4 hands, can you at least say who has the 2 of @c in his hand ? :)|pg|| nt|vugraphc3: followed by 3 passes :)|pg|| nt|vugraphc3: let's see whether its a good sac in vulnerable against non :) that's always spicy|pg|| nt|vugraphc3: Giorgio or Dominique :)|pg|| nt|vugraphc3: DOWN 1|pg|| pg|| qx|o23|st||md|1SJ8HAQDQJ762CAKQ7,SK6HKT6542DT3C632,SA9732HJ73DAK84C9,SQT54H98D95CJT854|sv|b|mb|6D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c2|mc|12|pg|| qx|c23|st||md|1SJ8HAQDQJ762CAKQ7,SK6HKT6542DT3C632,SA9732HJ73DAK84C9,SQT54H98D95CJT854|sv|b|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|chmitty: OK, tx :) let's move to 23 now|pg|| nt|vugraphc3: and now back to normal :) (still a mystery who had the @c2)|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|nt|chmitty: :)|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|mb|6D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cJ|nt|chmitty: You have voice commentary at this table (from Roland Wald and Larry Cohen)|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c9|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|d5|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|d9|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|hQ|nt|chmitty: You need 2 ruffs from the short hand, if you take South's hand a a base. You can also try and establish the @s if you take North's hand as a base|pg|| pc|hK|pg|| nt|ahollan1: rimstedt twins started south with 2@D=BAL 18-19 so 6@D would have been right-sided but they stopped in 3N|pg|| mc|12|nt|vugraphc3: discarding a spade on h!J from dummy|pg|| nt|chmitty: with trumps 2-2 zero problem :)|pg|| pg|| qx|o24|st||md|2SA2HKQT7DQ64CK653,S7543HDKJ975CAT82,SQ9HA9864D32CQJ94,SKJT86HJ532DAT8C7|sv|o|mb|p|mb|5H|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| pc|hK|pc|d7|pc|h4|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hT|pc|c2|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|cA|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|d2|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c24|st||md|2SA2HKQT7DQ64CK653,S7543HDKJ975CAT82,SQ9HA9864D32CQJ94,SKJT86HJ532DAT8C7|sv|o|mb|p|mb|2H!|an|!H+ 4+!C/!D|mb|p|nt|chmitty: 2@h = @h and a minor|pg|| mb|4H|nt|ahollan1: open room crashed so some bidding/play data was lost|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|4S|nt|ahollan1: 2@H = 5M 4+@C/@D, weak|pg|| nt|ahollan1: or what pierre said|pg|| mb|5H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: board 21 was hand-shuffled because players arrived late so movie has correct result but NOT the right hands|pg|| nt|chmitty: We can see 5@h can be down 4 on a @c lead|pg|| nt|chmitty: if East underleads twice the @d ace|pg|| nt|vugraphc3: Dennis is still a junior (in his heart..) he just needs to realize it :)|pg|| nt|chmitty: an obvious defence when North will be known with @h Ace and some values in @c|pg|| nt|vugraphc3: i think he is just considering 5@S and dbl as options|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|chmitty: oh ... 5 down yes|pg|| nt|chmitty: the @s trick still there|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c9|pg|| nt|chmitty: Duboin thinking whether Bilde can be void in @d |pg|| nt|chmitty: if Pilon has @d and not @c|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d6|pc|dJ|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dK|nt|chmitty: see ... what we believe is easy is not so obvious, even for the best|pg|| pc|h9|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|d7|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|hT|pc|s4|pg|| mc|9|nt|chmitty: Maybe Duboin was under the impression that 2@h was "Polish" : 55 at least|pg|| pg|| qx|o25|st||md|3S53HT853DJ76CQ832,SKJT9642H42D853C4,SAQ87HA7DK94CKJT6,SHKQJ96DAQT2CA975|sv|e|mb|1N|mb|d!|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|h4|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c4|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c8|pc|s2|pc|c6|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|d6|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c2|pc|s4|pc|cK|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|h7|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h8|pc|d8|pc|s7|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|d2|pc|s3|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c9|pc|cQ|pc|s9|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c25|st||md|3S53HT853DJ76CQ832,SKJT9642H42D853C4,SAQ87HA7DK94CKJT6,SHKQJ96DAQT2CA975|sv|e|mb|1N|mb|2H!|mb|p|nt|LC: SP Signals http://www.larryco.com/bridge-learning-center/detail/676|pg|| nt|Walddk2: http://db.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/17montecatini/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=1401&qshowflag=1|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@H = 5@H 4+@C/@D|pg|| nt|vugraphc3: i think he just said.. it was a little black out :)|pg|| nt|chmitty: Board 1 is now scored in both rooms|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: in greece v bridgebertheau the greek ew pair did bid & make 4@S|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: there the auction started (1N)-DBL showing 4M & 5+m and lead was @HA|pg|| nt|chmitty: 4@s seems to be down by 1 trick, as long as the defence opens @d early enough|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c4|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|h2|pc|hA|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s9|nt|chmitty: Did Toffier really play the 2@c at trick 1 (they give std counts) ?|pg|| nt|chmitty: Too late to open the @d now|pg|| nt|vugraphc3: he covered with his hand. but i believe he just discarded it now :)|pg|| nt|ahollan1: should trick 1 signal be count or attitude?|pg|| nt|chmitty: if North has the @c count, it's really a mistake to try and cash the @c|pg|| nt|vugraphc3: now he holds Q8.. i think he played 3 in the first round, now the 2|pg|| nt|chmitty: The Franch methods are that you are supposed to produce the second card from 4 ... so the 8 here|pg|| nt|chmitty: French*|pg|| pc|s7|pc|d2|nt|chmitty: the 3 would deny 4 cards|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| nt|chmitty: such small details make big differences|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i think new zealand also swears by length signals |pg|| nt|vugraphc3: now he holds Q8.. :) so he couldnt have lead the 8 in the 1st round :)|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|h6|pc|s5|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c7|nt|chmitty: On the other hand, South gave the @h count ... so North knows Duboin does NOT have a singleton @h|pg|| pc|c8|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sA|nt|chmitty: And therefore there is no hurry in cashing the @c |pg|| pc|h9|pc|h3|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c9|pc|cQ|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|ahollan1: [on vugraph] thru 25 era leads vinci 29-7|pg|| pc|s8|nt|chmitty: This is what you realize during diner, usually :)|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d6|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|d7|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o26|st||md|4SA98HT985D5CKQJ93,ST752HKJDAK98CA76,SKQJ64H3DQT432CT8,S3HAQ7642DJ76C542|sv|b|mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2N!|mb|p|mb|3C!|mb|d|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|s5|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c4|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|s6|pc|h4|pc|h8|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|h6|pc|s8|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h9|pc|c7|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hT|pc|d8|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d5|pc|d9|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|h7|pc|sA|pc|s7|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c26|st||md|4SA98HT985D5CKQJ93,ST752HKJDAK98CA76,SKQJ64H3DQT432CT8,S3HAQ7642DJ76C542|sv|b|mb|2H|nt|Authau: http://db.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/17montecatini/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=1401&qshowflag=1|pg|| mb|p|mb|4H|mb|4S|mb|p|nt|Authau: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Rhq2Qs4xqA video|pg|| nt|ahollan1: LC should appreciate 4@H=transfer to 4@S|pg|| mb|5S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 5@S = partner will never bid 4@S again|pg|| mb|p|pc|hA|nt|ahollan1: but this is why god invented preempts|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|h3|pg|| nt|ahollan1: south just did not know if partner was serious with 4@S or just saving|pg|| nt|ahollan1: was bocchi discouraged from bidding @S because sementa DBL showed @C??|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|cT|nt|ahollan1: wow Moran [ireland] has jumped into 7th after being well out of qualifying for most of the event|pg|| pc|c4|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|h2|nt|chmitty: Well ... from North's standpoint at the other table, Pass is dangerous (you can make 4@s) and bid is also dangerous|pg|| pc|s9|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c7|pc|d3|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c9|pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|h4|pg|| nt|chmitty: You can't always guess right|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|h6|pc|sA|pc|s7|pg|| nt|ahollan1: pepsi has also broken into the top 16 but low qualifiers are very much in doubt with one last 10-board match to play|pg|| pc|c3|pc|d8|pc|d4|pc|d6|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|d7|pg|| pc|hK|pc|sK|pc|h7|pc|h8|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dJ|pc|h9|pc|dA|pg|| pc|d9|nt|ahollan1: "you can't always guess right" but can i sometimes guess right??|pg|| pc|dT|pc|hQ|pc|hT|pg|| nt|Walddk2: http://db.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/17montecatini/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=1401&qshowflag=1|pg|| pg|| qx|o27|st||md|1S985HQ3DKJ75CKQ54,SAQ64HAJ97DT3CAJT,SJ2HT82DQ9864C863,SKT73HK654DA2C972|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2N|an|.|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|4S|an|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d3|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pc|s7|pc|s9|pg|| pc|s6|pc|d6|pc|sK|pc|s8|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|dT|pc|d8|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cT|pc|c3|pc|c2|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h8|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c7|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c27|st||md|1S985HQ3DKJ75CKQ54,SAQ64HAJ97DT3CAJT,SJ2HT82DQ9864C863,SKT73HK654DA2C972|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d3|pg|| nt|chmitty: :)|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hQ|nt|ahollan1: in the other room 2N response showed 4@H 4@S but was it min or max?|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h8|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hT|pc|h5|pc|d5|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s3|nt|chmitty: In French methods, no indication of strenght|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sJ|nt|chmitty: Very few play 2NT minimum and 3@c maximum|pg|| mc|11|nt|ahollan1: thx i'm glad i asked|pg|| pg|| qx|o28|st||md|2SKQ92HA7DAT82C953,SJ764HK63DJCKT862,ST5HJT5DQ643CAJ74,SA83HQ9842DK975CQ|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|dJ|pc|d3|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h3|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d2|pc|h6|pc|d4|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|s3|pc|c5|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|s6|pc|d6|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dT|pc|hK|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c7|pc|h8|pc|c9|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sQ|pc|s7|pc|sT|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sJ|pc|cA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|c8|pc|h5|pg|| pc|s9|pc|cT|pc|hJ|pc|h9|pg|| pg|| qx|c28|st||md|2SKQ92HA7DAT82C953,SJ764HK63DJCKT862,ST5HJT5DQ643CAJ74,SA83HQ9842DK975CQ|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|2D!|an|construvtive !h raise|nt|chmitty: But over 2NT you have the possibility to 1/ invite (3@c/@d transfer) 2/ Bid game (4@c/4@d) or 3/ show a strong hand (3@h/3@s)|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@D = better raise than 2@H|pg|| mb|2N!|an|minors|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h3|nt|ahollan1: i thought transfers over 1M-(DBL) was part of Jeff Rubens' seminal Bridge World series "Useful Space Principle"|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|h5|nt|ahollan1: LC suggesting Marty Bergen's BROMAD might have come first |pg|| pc|h9|pg|| nt|ahollan1: both first seen in early 80x|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 80x|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hT|pc|h2|nt|ahollan1: achh early 1980s|pg|| pc|c5|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s4|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 3rd seat favorable vul do EW open 4-card major??|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i'm told "Jeff Rubens' USP had transfers by advancer to overcall and in lieu of lebensohl (rubensohl) but *NOT* after 1M-(dbl)"|pg|| nt|chmitty: with 5432 no, with AKQJ I'am sure yes :)|pg|| nt|chmitty: Earlier here, I've seen Duboin opening (vulnerable) 1@s holding AKQx|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|sT|pg|| pc|h8|nt|ahollan1: is it fair to say that Duboin tends to play down the middle more than the other members of his team??|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|c2|pg|| nt|chmitty: I do believe it's fair comment|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s7|pc|d4|pc|s8|pg|| nt|Walddk2: http://db.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/17montecatini/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=1401&qshowflag=1|pg|| pc|cA|pc|d7|pc|c3|pc|c6|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dA|pc|c8|pc|d6|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pc|c4|pc|dK|pg|| pc|h4|pc|d2|pc|cK|pc|c7|pg|| pg|| qx|o29|st||md|3SQ964HQ842DQCJ954,SAKJHA7DAT84CKT63,ST8753HJ93DJ975CA,S2HKT65DK632CQ872|sv|b|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c4|mc|9|pg|| qx|c29|st||md|3SQ964HQ842DQCJ954,SAKJHA7DAT84CKT63,ST8753HJ93DJ975CA,S2HKT65DK632CQ872|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@D = BAL 18-19 or 2N=20-22|pg|| mb|2C!|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: ach 2@C = BAL 18-19|pg|| nt|ahollan1: too many sets with lauria-versace|pg|| mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2H!|mb|p|mb|2S!|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@D = 4+@h|pg|| mb|2N!|mb|p|mb|3N!|an|1444|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@H = not 4-fit|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: i have a note that says 2@S = a) 4M 5+@C/@D b) 4441@S c) (5/4) @H & @S, "limit"|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2N = RELAY and 3N = exactly 4441@S|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c5|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|c6|pc|s3|pc|cQ|pc|c4|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|h3|pg|| pc|cK|pc|h9|pc|c7|nt|chmitty: would be interesting at BAM or matchpoints scoring|pg|| pc|cJ|pg|| nt|vugraphc3: NS got 1VP penalty for late arrrival|pg|| nt|chmitty: you casn strip-squeeze North for the 11th trick if you gues|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|s4|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|d3|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s8|pc|d6|pc|s9|pg|| pc|h7|pc|d7|pc|hK|pc|h4|pg|| mc|10|nt|chmitty: Last board now, before the last round in a few minutes|pg|| pg|| qx|o30|st||md|4SAT5HK9DAT943CK32,SQJ963HQJTD5CAQJ4,S87H74DKQ8762CT98,SK42HA86532DJC765|sv|o|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c2|mc|10|nt|vugrapho3: sorry for technical issues in this round|pg|| nt|vugrapho3: see you soon|pg|| pg|| qx|c30|st||md|4SAT5HK9DAT943CK32,SQJ963HQJTD5CAQJ4,S87H74DKQ8762CT98,SK42HA86532DJC765|sv|o|nt|chmitty: Thanks all for watching and your commentaries|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|nt|chmitty: 7.15 pm Italian time, last round (in 30')|pg|| mb|2S!|nt|ahollan1: final round starts at 15 min after the hour|pg|| mb|3C!|an|!D|nt|ahollan1: 2@S = 5M & 4+@C/@D|pg|| mb|3D!|nt|ahollan1: qualifying to KO open=16 senior & women = 8|pg|| mb|d|nt|chmitty: 3@c = @d transfer so 3@d is invitation for 4@s|pg|| nt|ahollan1: most play transfer lebensohl shows INV+ in that context is north strong enough??|pg|| nt|LC: Trasnfer leb: http://www.larryco.com/bridge-learning-center/detail/775|pg|| nt|chmitty: they play Rubenshol ... just transfer with no indication if strenght|pg|| nt|chmitty: of*|pg|| mb|3H|nt|chmitty: Is x = @h Al ?|pg|| mb|4D|nt|ahollan1: i thought rubensohl and transfer lebensohl were the same thing so 2N=>3@C then 3@D would be weak|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: i think 3@D is just cue showing good @S raise|pg|| nt|chmitty: Maybe I call it Rubenshol but I'm wrong ... Anyhow, all bids starting with 2NT are "simple" transfers|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|nt|chmitty: 3@h would be "impossible transfer, so Stayman|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|5D|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: rubensohl was Bridge World article by Australia's Bruce Neill -- he used that name because he was influenced by Jeff Rubens' USP [Useful Space Principle]|pg|| pc|s2|nt|chmitty: Nice story :) Tx|pg|| nt|chmitty: declarer is probably going to eliminate the @s and then play @c himself|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s9|pc|s8|pg|| nt|chmitty: because he does not know who holds the Ace of hearts|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s7|pc|s4|pc|sA|pg|| nt|chmitty: although playing @h makes it a bit more difficult for the defence |pg|| nt|Walddk2: http://db.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/17montecatini/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=1401&qshowflag=1|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|d6|pc|h2|pc|dT|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s6|pc|d7|pc|sK|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c7|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|h9|pg|| pc|c6|mc|8|nt|chmitty: Reasonnable line ... you accept to lose 500 but never 800|pg|| nt|chmitty: OK bye|pg|| nt|ahollan1: restart 15 min past the hour|pg|| pg||