vg|A 2017 USBC SF,Segment 7 of 8,I,1,15,Nickell,141,Harris,149| rs|1NS+2,1NS+1,4HE-1,4HE-1,6HS=,6HS+1,1NW+1,1NW+2,2SS-1,3HW-2,5SEx-2,3NN+1,4SNx-1,3SN=,1SW+1,3DN-2,3CN=,2DW-1,2CW=,3CW=,3CWx=,3DN=,3NS=,3NS=,4SN+2,6SN-1,4SN=,4SN=,1NW-4,1NW-2| pn|Weinstein,Liu,Levin,Barron,Harris,Rodwell,Morgan,Meckstroth|pg|| qx|o1|st||md|3SKT9HAK32DAQ83C97,S432HJ9DJ976CKJ83,S765HT875DKTCAT62,SAQJ8HQ64D542CQ54|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|an|14+ - 17|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|d5|pc|d3|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|h9|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|d4|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|fuquay: The diamond lead here will probably let declarer make three for an IMP|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s9|pg|| pc|s8|mc|9|pg|| qx|c1|st||md|3SKT9HAK32DAQ83C97,S432HJ9DJ976CKJ83,S765HT875DKTCAT62,SAQJ8HQ64D542CQ54|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1D!|an|2+|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c3|nt|Vugraphzff: 4th best leads|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|c7|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s5|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|h5|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hJ|pc|h7|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|s3|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sT|pc|s2|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s8|pc|d3|nt|fabsayc: wisely cashing out|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o2|st||md|4S532HJTDQT952CA82,ST4H8752D643CQ654,SAKQ76H9DK87CJT93,SJ98HAKQ643DAJCK7|sv|n|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|2S|mb|3S|mb|d|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|s9|pg|| nt|phil: good result for EW here. Playing a quiet 4@h with 4@s cold NS|pg|| nt|fuquay: Four spades makes NS here with the lie of the EW cards|pg|| nt|fuquay: But it is not bid at either table|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sJ|pc|s2|pc|sT|pg|| nt|fuquay: Four spades appears to need 3-2 spades and guessing the @DJ so it is not a great contract|pg|| nt|phil: I think you'd like to be there red at IMPs though. By the time you have to guess the card you should have some additional intel.|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hA|pc|hJ|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hT|pc|h5|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s3|pc|h7|pc|s7|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c7|pg|| pc|h8|nt|fuquay: If Levin had started with Ax of clubs, Barron's play would have set up the @CQ for a discard --- seems like his best chance|pg|| pc|c9|pc|hQ|pc|d2|pg|| pc|h6|pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|d7|pg|| pc|h4|mc|9|pg|| qx|c2|st||md|4S532HJTDQT952CA82,ST4H8752D643CQ654,SAKQ76H9DK87CJT93,SJ98HAKQ643DAJCK7|sv|n|mb|1C!|an|strong|nt|ahollan1: 1@C = 16+unbal or 17+BAL|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D!|nt|ahollan1: 1@D=0-7|pg|| mb|1S|mb|2H|mb|2S|mb|3H|mb|3S|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|medwards: We also have a very close match between Mahaffey 141 and Maeltzer 138 in USA 2|pg|| pc|s2|nt|ahollan1: undoubled = beating par|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|s9|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s5|pc|sT|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sJ|pc|s3|pc|h2|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| nt|ahollan1: liu responded 1N to barron's unlimited 1@H|pg|| nt|ahollan1: while i was wondering what levin would do after 1@H-P-P-? or 1@H-P-3@H-?|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|nt|ahollan1: neither acbl nor usbf currently able to provide live video|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| pc|hA|nt|kareno: :)|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h5|pc|h9|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hJ|pc|h7|pc|s6|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|d5|pc|h8|pc|s7|pg|| pc|h4|pc|dT|nt|ahollan1: we do have voice commentary at this table|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d8|pg|| pc|h3|pc|c2|pc|d6|pc|d7|pg|| pc|h6|pc|c8|pc|c5|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c7|pc|d9|pc|cQ|pc|cT|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg|| pg|| qx|o3|st||md|1SAQ4HA8732DKJTCT8,ST9753H654D3CAJ92,SJ2HKQT9DAQ875CKQ,SK86HJD9642C76543|sv|e|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|an|2 without heart ueen|mb|p|mb|4D|an|key card for hearts|mb|p|mb|4N|mb|p|mb|6H|nt|fuquay: The NT is listed as 14+ - 17 |pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|phil: looks|pg|| pc|cA|nt|fuquay: Liu wins an IMP with that lead|pg|| nt|phil: looks like they switch 4c and 4d so 4d is rkc|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c7|pc|c8|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|d6|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|hJ|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c3|st||md|1SAQ4HA8732DKJTCT8,ST9753H654D3CAJ92,SJ2HKQT9DAQ875CKQ,SK86HJD9642C76543|sv|e|nt|ahollan1: i can still remember reading S J Simon book that talks about various types of par|pg|| mb|1N!|nt|kareno: Fearlessly I predict a contract of 4@h n/s here|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1st/2nd 1N=14-17 meckwell agreed yesterday to treat that as weak|pg|| nt|kareno: For newer players, look up S.J. (Skid) Simon's books|pg|| mb|2N!|an|puppet|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 3rd/4th = good 14-17 one of the CCs says 14.5-17.75|pg|| nt|kareno: Interesting - I treat it as stronh|pg|| nt|kareno: strong|pg|| mb|3H!|an|5!H|nt|fabsayc: i fear for your prediction, Karen|pg|| nt|ahollan1: "skid" was nickname because he was born as Simon J Skidelsky|pg|| mb|p|nt|kareno: A piece of trivia I didn't know|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2N = Puppet Stayman, FG // 3@H = 5@H|pg|| mb|3S!|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: NS use of 1N-2@C and 1N-2R are not your normal stayman and transfers, but there is some overlap|pg|| nt|fabsayc: 3@S logically slam interest with hearts|pg|| nt|kareno: 3@s could be a strong heart raise|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|4S!|nt|ahollan1: historically after opener shows a major responder's bid of other major = slam try raise|pg|| mb|d|nt|kareno: Well that puts my prediction into the circular file|pg|| nt|fabsayc: now i definitely want to be in slam with south hand|pg|| mb|5H|mb|p|nt|kareno: Wondering why not redouble?|pg|| nt|fabsayc: but south is still treating hand as min, i think|pg|| nt|fabsayc: me too|pg|| nt|medwards: what would redouble have been?|pg|| mb|6H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: so many questions: 1) why only 4@H with nice south hand 2) does 5@H show KC AND @S control|pg|| nt|kareno: Ah so 4@s was keycare |pg|| pc|sT|nt|ahollan1: RDBL sort of depends upon whether or not they focus on @S control after DBL|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|hJ|pg|| mc|13|pg|| qx|o4|st||md|2SAK85H832DAJ62CJ5,ST4HAKT5DKQ53CKT2,SJ763HJ6D9874CA84,SQ92HQ974DTCQ9763|sv|b|mb|1N|an|14-16|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d8|nt|fuquay: I believe that is 15-17 because they are vulnerable|pg|| nt|vugraphzfc: 14-16|pg|| pc|dT|nt|fuquay: Thanks the CC was ambiguous|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|c5|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hJ|pc|h7|pc|h3|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d9|pc|c6|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|hT|pc|s3|pc|hQ|pc|h8|pg|| pc|h9|pc|s5|pc|h5|pc|s6|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| pc|d7|pc|c9|pc|d6|pc|d5|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sQ|mc|9|pg|| qx|c4|st||md|2SAK85H832DAJ62CJ5,ST4HAKT5DKQ53CKT2,SJ763HJ6D9874CA84,SQ92HQ974DTCQ9763|sv|b|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2 also 4@H undoubled = barron showed game force after his partner responded|pg|| nt|ahollan1: EW 1N 1/2/3nv: 14-16 3v/4: 15-17|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s2|nt|ahollan1: i imagine weinstein-levin will also reach slam since their 1N is slightly stronger|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|dT|pg|| pc|cK|nt|ahollan1: other table for nickell ns: levin-weinstein for harris ew: barron-liu|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|c5|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i'm not sure if barron has partnered all of the 4 teammates, or just 3 of the 4|pg|| nt|ahollan1: many telling me just 3 bridgegoth has not partnered harris|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c8|pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i'm told that was mentioned on bridgewinners where oren kriegel did video interview of morgan|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|hK|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hJ|pc|h7|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h5|pc|s3|pc|hQ|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h9|pc|d2|pc|hT|pc|d8|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c6|nt|ahollan1: bridgegoth = jay barron's bbo handle|pg|| nt|fabsayc: rodwells play in clubs based on placing south with ak spades and aj of diamonds|pg|| pc|d6|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|sT|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|nt|ahollan1: you see him a lot on bbo in matches with jimmy cayne [jec]|pg|| mc|9|nt|fabsayc: with only spade king, a spade return would have been likely trick 2|pg|| pg|| qx|o5|st||md|3SA532HK43D73CJT74,SJ74HAQ875DQJT9C6,ST986HTDAK86CA953,SKQHJ962D542CKQ82|sv|n|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d3|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sK|nt|fuquay: They played 3@H in the other room and the defense got all their tricks including a ruff of the fourth diamond with the @HK|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s7|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c6|pc|c3|pc|cK|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|s6|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|hT|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s8|pc|d4|pc|s3|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|d7|pg|| pc|d6|pc|h9|pc|s5|pc|dT|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|h5|pc|c5|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c4|pc|h7|mc|7|pg|| qx|c5|st||md|3SA532HK43D73CJT74,SJ74HAQ875DQJT9C6,ST986HTDAK86CA953,SKQHJ962D542CKQ82|sv|n|mb|1C!|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@C = (1)2+|pg|| mb|1H|an|!S|nt|ahollan1: 1@H = 4+@S 0+hcp|pg|| nt|ahollan1: NS do not have a strong forcing opening|pg|| nt|ahollan1: they don't absolutely say 1-bids are forcing, but seems responder always bids with yarborough|pg|| nt|kareno: So are all openings forcing?|pg|| mb|d!|an|!H|mb|2S!|nt|ahollan1: 1@C = 2+@C, 5@D332@C = optional 1@C/@D a) BAL 11-13/18-22 b) primary @C, 14+ c) some 4441|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@S = 4-fit|pg|| mb|3D!|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: common treatment [but not the only agreement] over opponent's transfer: DBL = that suit // bid the promised suit = takeout of that suit // 2 of promised suit = nat|pg|| nt|fabsayc: 3@D interesting, looks like a heart raise of some kind|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dT|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d5|pc|h3|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|fabsayc: spade ace, club, giving partner no losing options|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| pc|d8|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|d9|pg|| nt|kareno: They picked him clean|pg|| mc|7|nt|ahollan1: i'm not 100% sure about meckstroth actions i thought 2N would be INV+ raise of @H and 3M-1 mixed raise|pg|| pg|| qx|o6|st||md|4STHQ2DKT53CAK7652,SJ74HT98763DAQC98,SK52HAKJD874CQJT3,SAQ9863H54DJ962C4|sv|e|mb|2S|mb|3C|mb|3D|nt|fuquay: Beautiful bid by Liu|pg|| mb|3S|mb|4D|nt|fuquay: Pinpointed the needed diamond lead if they played 3NT|pg|| nt|fuquay: Except|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|mb|5C|mb|5D|mb|d|mb|5S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|pc|c8|nt|vugraphzfc: Barron: Vul vs not you don't psych as an unpassed hand|pg|| nt|fuquay: If Liu had not made his bid, it is very likely that NS would have been +400 or +430 in 3N|pg|| nt|fuquay: Although Barron might have found the right lead|pg|| nt|vugraphzfc: after 6 days, I think that is the first unkind word I have heard from one partner to another|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c4|pg|| nt|vugraphzfc: weinstein: "sorry" [for taking so long]|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|d4|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d6|pc|d5|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|s3|pc|c2|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dT|pc|s4|pc|d8|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s5|pc|s9|mc|9|pg|| qx|c6|st||md|4STHQ2DKT53CAK7652,SJ74HT98763DAQC98,SK52HAKJD874CQJT3,SAQ9863H54DJ962C4|sv|e|nt|ahollan1: looking at east hand - what do you think|pg|| mb|2S|mb|3C|nt|ahollan1: .oh voice commentary john swanson saying a spectator told him 2N by meck started transfer advances|pg|| mb|3S|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s8|nt|ahollan1: layout looks like key layout from earlier round where the AQ-6th hand found partner's outside A to get Jxx leading thru declarer|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pg|| nt|fabsayc: wow, lots of imps on this lead|pg|| mc|10|nt|fabsayc: rod had a chance to make lead director over 3@C|pg|| nt|ahollan1: not much difference if @D lead only 1st 8 to defense instead of last 3|pg|| pg|| qx|c7|st||md|1SQ86HAJ98DK4CJ642,SJ5HKQT32DT8765CQ,SAK9742H74DQ32CT5,ST3H65DAJ9CAK9873|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2S!|an|8-15 6!S|mb|3C|nt|ahollan1: 2@S = 8-bad 15, 6+M not 4+OM|pg|| mb|d|an|invite raise|nt|ahollan1: i think DBL = INV raise|pg|| mb|3H|nt|ahollan1: can't remember where i read that :(|pg|| mb|3S|an|min|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: did you read all 250 pages of their system notes|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|c5|pg|| nt|kareno: I think Al has read all the pages of everybody's notes.|pg|| nt|ahollan1: so at the table the players confirmed DBL = INV raise|pg|| pc|h6|nt|fabsayc: i am keeping mine secret|pg|| nt|ahollan1: for both of these pairs - just System Summary Forms and CCs|pg|| nt|ahollan1: video interview of morgan - he confirmed during tourney harris carries around folder with 250 page of notes|pg|| nt|Vugraphzff: confirmed, it is here!|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h4|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg|| nt|ahollan1: thru 7 diamond v dwyer furious exchange of imps 1 v 1|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|sT|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cA|mc|9|pg|| qx|o8|st||md|2S963HJ9853D653C63,S8754HKT74DKT2CK4,SKQJH2DAQJ87CJ952,SAT2HAQ6D94CAQT87|sv|o|nt|phil: answer: yes it does matter:)|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|mb|d|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|phil: good time to go low - not sure 1@s would be everyones choice|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|vugraphzfc: barron: "don't make too many" Levin: "he won't|pg|| nt|fuquay: 3N W is a pretty good contract here although it would likely go down with the NS cards. |pg|| nt|vugraphzfc: everybody here seems tired; lots of sighs and not much energy|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s5|pg|| nt|phil: agree - Id feel nauseous if I saw that dummy in 1@s|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|s9|pc|d2|pc|c9|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sT|pc|h3|pc|s7|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d9|pc|d5|pc|dT|pg|| mc|8|nt|phil: doesnt 3N always make? |pg|| nt|fuquay: Maybe it does, I forgot about the heart ten|pg|| pg|| qx|c8|st||md|2S963HJ9853D653C63,S8754HKT74DKT2CK4,SKQJH2DAQJ87CJ952,SAT2HAQ6D94CAQT87|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1D|an|5|mb|d|mb|3D!|nt|ahollan1: 1@D = common 8-9 hcp, 5+@D, not 4@H/@S unless 16+, 5@D332@C = optional 1@C/@D|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 3@D = 0-11, 3+@D, common 4@H/@S|pg|| nt|fabsayc: well i think this is a well worked out system|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: yes 3+fit|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|d9|nt|fabsayc: because many bids wide range it requires a lot of judgement, but also increases pressure on opponents|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|fabsayc: this is a good example, ew on for 3nt|pg|| nt|ahollan1: was rodwell robbed or should he have found a bid?|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c8|pc|c3|nt|ahollan1: judgment or guessing??|pg|| pc|c4|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d5|nt|ahollan1: warning: if you say he should have bid - you must say WHAT he should bid|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|fabsayc: i would have doubled|pg|| pc|c2|nt|ahollan1: definitely credit to NS system|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c6|pc|cK|pg|| nt|ahollan1: responsive dbl is reasonable but how much is @DK worth when south is on lead|pg|| nt|fabsayc: you asked, i answered|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|h3|pg|| pc|cA|pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|c9|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o9|st||md|3SJ732H7654D2CAK84,SQT5HA2DAQT873CJ5,SAK8HKT9DK64C9632,S964HQJ83DJ95CQT7|sv|e|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|2D|an|3 hearts|mb|d|an|3 hearts|mb|p|nt|phil: Steve has an interesting call here|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|nt|phil: doesnt feel right to retreat to 2@h on xxxx|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|d5|nt|fuquay: I think I agree with Steve's choice|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hT|pc|h3|pc|h4|pg|| nt|phil: me too - either partner has a 4th club or they have a 9 card diamond fit. Here its both|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|hQ|pc|h5|pg|| pc|c3|nt|phil: I dont see anything interesting int eh endgame here - do you Greg? |pg|| pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cJ|pc|c2|nt|fuquay: No not at the moment|pg|| pc|cQ|pg|| nt|phil: spec says you can get the 13th spade going for a heart pitch - can it be timed out? |pg|| nt|fuquay: actually the fourth spade will be a winner|pg|| nt|fuquay: yes it seems to work with diamond ruff entry|pg|| nt|fuquay: Just play three spades now|pg|| nt|fuquay: But if fairness to me, that is not all that interesting :)|pg|| nt|phil: :)|pg|| nt|phil: seems spades are 3-3 although that club Q might have him rethink things|pg|| nt|phil: you might play for hearts 33 I guess|pg|| nt|vugraphzfc: tho prob would have returned a small heart from Axx|pg|| nt|fuquay: If the D!4 were a larger spot, he could be thinking a spade to ace, diamond king, small diamond, pitching hearts, endplaying west|pg|| nt|fuquay: @D4|pg|| nt|fuquay: But it is clear that E could win the third round of diamonds|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|sT|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s9|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|d8|mc|9|pg|| qx|c9|st||md|3SJ732H7654D2CAK84,SQT5HA2DAQT873CJ5,SAK8HKT9DK64C9632,S964HQJ83DJ95CQT7|sv|e|mb|1C!|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@C = (1)2+|pg|| mb|1D!|an|!H|mb|2D|nt|ahollan1: 1@D=0+hcp, 4+@H|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzff: optional support x here|pg|| nt|ahollan1: if DBL = @D then 2@D = more @D and/or better hand i'm not sure about the agreement|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s7|pc|s5|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d9|pc|d2|pc|d7|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c2|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|sT|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|cJ|pg|| nt|ahollan1: info just fed to me harris lives in chicago, morgan in madison wisconsin|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o10|st||md|4SKT3H762DQT72CQJ9,SJ76HAQTD8CA87632,SA954H954DA643CK4,SQ82HKJ83DKJ95CT5|sv|b|nt|fuquay: Another push|pg|| nt|vugraphzfc: Levin: tricky queen of clubs|pg|| nt|phil: nicely done|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|d|mb|r|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|p|nt|phil: might buy it here|pg|| nt|phil: Steve's hand looks pretty defensive|pg|| mb|p|pc|h4|nt|fuquay: There are five losers in clubs even though they made three in the other room|pg|| nt|phil: this should breeze home|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|hA|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|phil: maybe they ducked the @dA|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|cT|pc|c9|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s8|nt|fuquay: They have to cash the diamond now they want to get it|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s7|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| nt|fuquay: And 1 IMP to the Nickell team|pg|| mc|8|nt|vugraphzfc: Levin: sorryy, I should have played the nine of spades|pg|| pg|| qx|c10|st||md|4SKT3H762DQT72CQJ9,SJ76HAQTD8CA87632,SA954H954DA643CK4,SQ82HKJ83DKJ95CT5|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2C!|an|6+ !C|nt|ahollan1: 2@C = 10-15, 6+@C but 3rd can be good 5-cards|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D!|an|asks|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@D = RELAY|pg|| mb|3C!|an|bad hand|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 3@C = min, not 4@H/@S|pg|| pc|h4|nt|ahollan1: in last few years i think i've noticed more systemic changes to meckwell 2@C auctions than any other|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h7|pc|hA|pg|| nt|fabsayc: that does not surprise me, has always been problematic opening in a strong club system|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d2|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s8|nt|ahollan1: std responses to precision 2@C-2@D 2@H=4@H 2@S=4@S 2N=no 4M, good hand 3@C=no 4M, min|pg|| nt|ahollan1: weichsel adjustment 2@H=4@H or 4@S 2@S = no 4M, good hand 2N=no 4M, good hand for NT 3@C=same junk|pg|| nt|ahollan1: now meckwell 2@H=not 4@H/@S 2@S=4@S 2N=4@H|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|fabsayc: ouch|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|s6|pc|d3|pg|| nt|fabsayc: with AJxx in spades, would he not have shifted to the jack or lead it second round|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c9|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o11|st||md|1SQ7HK73DT872CQ732,ST84HAQ86DA6CKT98,SAK96HJT42DKQJ94C,SJ532H95D53CAJ654|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|d|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|nt|phil: considering 3@d, pass or an aggro 3N I think|pg|| nt|phil: 3@d seems the most middle of the road to me|pg|| nt|fuquay: The play would be slow, but I would guess that 3@C would go down one|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dA|pg|| nt|phil: so this is either win 11 or push if they nip it one|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s7|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|d6|pg|| nt|phil: this gets trick if South sheds a heart on the 4th spade. |pg|| nt|fuquay: If Liu can set up the @SJ as a winner he might actually make this|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h4|pc|c4|pc|hK|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|d4|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|c9|nt|fuquay: I guess he is making|pg|| pc|d9|pg|| nt|phil: now heart ruff with ace|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hT|pc|cA|nt|phil: nicely done|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c11|st||md|1SQ7HK73DT872CQ732,ST84HAQ86DA6CKT98,SAK96HJT42DKQJ94C,SJ532H95D53CAJ654|sv|o|nt|ahollan1: time to re-read Kelsey's Killing Defence at Bridge|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|nt|ahollan1: 14-16|pg|| mb|d!|mb|2C|nt|ahollan1: DBL = wk: penalty str: a) @H & @S b) strong, H/@S|pg|| nt|ahollan1: earlier set i think they treated 14-16 as weak|pg|| nt|kit: hi everybody|pg|| mb|p|nt|fabsayc: perhaps morgan could have made it clearer by continuing higher spade on second round|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D!|nt|rduran1216: he would've played the J if he had the J|pg|| nt|rduran1216: just gave count|pg|| mb|2S|nt|ahollan1: if DBL was penalty should Harris hit 2@C?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: btw 2@C = 5+suit which was same action meck took last time|pg|| mb|2N!|mb|3C|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: what was the double, AL|pg|| nt|ahollan1: meck had a different way to handle 4@C 4@S so this shows 5+@C 4@S|pg|| nt|ahollan1: sroll up for DBL|pg|| pc|h9|nt|ahollan1: DBL = wk: penalty str: a) @H & @S b) strong, H/@S and previous segment they treated 14-16 as weak|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|h7|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hT|pc|d3|pc|hK|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 8 where people think rodwell failed to find 3N liu played 1@S west making 1 for a push|pg|| mc|9|nt|ahollan1: the hand was just too tough|pg|| pg|| qx|o12|st||md|2SQ753HAK2D84CAQJ6,SAK62HJ94DJ76CT54,SJ98H853DKQ932CK7,ST4HQT76DAT5C9832|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p!|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s4|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|dK|pc|d5|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|c8|pc|s3|pc|sK|pg|| pc|s6|pc|h3|pc|c2|pc|s7|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|dT|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c12|st||md|2SQ753HAK2D84CAQJ6,SAK62HJ94DJ76CT54,SJ98H853DKQ932CK7,ST4HQT76DAT5C9832|sv|n|mb|p|nt|rduran1216: huh?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|rduran1216: 1S is about my 5th choice|pg|| mb|1N!|nt|ahollan1: 1N = good 14 - good 17|pg|| mb|p|nt|rduran1216: I have 3 kings, and it went 1m x p and I'm 44 in the majors, 1S would not occur to me|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@S = Size Ask if you want to do that|pg|| mb|2N|an|puppet|mb|p|mb|3C!|nt|ahollan1: 2N = Puppet Stayman|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|nt|ahollan1: 3@C = not 5@H/@S|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: nothing about 4@H/@S|pg|| pc|sA|nt|ahollan1: @SK lead would show stronger/strongest holding|pg|| pc|s8|nt|ahollan1: so @SA asks attitude|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s5|pg|| nt|ahollan1: and i believe std attitude since AK show on lead at trick 1|pg|| nt|ahollan1: @S5 is the right falsecard based on EW carding|pg|| nt|ahollan1: leaves doubt about who holds the @S3 if meck then encouraging from Q43|pg|| nt|ahollan1: rod doesn't like the look of dummy's @D|pg|| nt|kit: heart lead woould be the winner here, but hard to fault the spade lead IMO|pg|| nt|ahollan1: maybe he'll try attacking @C to kill entry??|pg|| nt|kit: Now declarer can counter a heart shift by winning and playing a diamond, I believe.|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|sT|nt|kit: would be necessary to play a diamond to knock oout East's entry|pg|| nt|kit: Anyway, West logically continued spades, and now declarer has 9 easy tricks.|pg|| pc|sQ|pg|| nt|ahollan1: if he remembers @S7 is high spot|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|sJ|nt|ahollan1: and he did|pg|| nt|kit: I'm betting he will|pg|| nt|ahollan1: sorry marty|pg|| pc|c8|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o13|st||md|3SA987HA9654DK9C43,SJHKJ732DA4C98765,SKQT652HTDJT72CAQ,S43HQ8DQ8653CKJT2|sv|b|nt|phil: chance for a pickup for Nickell here|pg|| mb|1S|nt|vugraphzfc: there is that wide ranging two @S bid in the other room 8-15|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3C!|an|any minimum (but better than 4!S bid)|nt|phil: was told that declarer in the other room started @dJACK, which compressed the suit and forced him to take the club hook|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|nt|gosia: I guess any minimum ?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s3|nt|phil: 13 back to Nickell|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|s8|pc|c9|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|nt|gosia: best treatment , but involves lots of memory work :)|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h8|pg|| nt|phil: although making 12 tricks may not make NS feel any better|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|s6|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|d9|pc|dA|pg|| nt|phil: yes, especially since there a LOT of methods that start with 3@c min after 2N|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c13|st||md|3SA987HA9654DK9C43,SJHKJ732DA4C98765,SKQT652HTDJT72CAQ,S43HQ8DQ8653CKJT2|sv|b|nt|ahollan1: diamond +64 over dwyer|pg|| mb|2S!|an|8-15 6!S|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@S = 8-bad 15, 6+M not 4+OM|pg|| mb|2N!|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2N = RELAY, 12+|pg|| mb|3N!|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2nd chance to see this auction|pg|| nt|kit: Whatever the methods, should be an easy 4@S|pg|| nt|ahollan1: voice commentary talking about 6@S|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|4N|nt|fabsayc: yikes|pg|| nt|kit: wow -- didn't expect this. And slam can make!|pg|| nt|rduran1216: this is making isn't it?|pg|| mb|p|nt|kareno: Wow - someone really thinking about slam. |pg|| mb|5C!|mb|p|nt|rduran1216: Jacob says autographs are 100 a piece if anyone is interested|pg|| nt|fabsayc: how is it making barring club lead|pg|| nt|medwards: Yes because daimond nine in play|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Jacob = Morgan|pg|| nt|medwards: diamond|pg|| nt|kareno: I'll take one if it's on a $100 bill|pg|| nt|kit: Declarer will be forced to guess the diamonds right, since if East has the queen then that is all he needs vs. ruffing finesse.|pg|| mb|5N!|mb|p|nt|rduran1216: spot on Kit|pg|| mb|6S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|rduran1216: I wonder what S showed here|pg|| nt|kareno: Club loser goes on diamond after ruffing finesse|pg|| pc|s4|nt|rduran1216: had he led a club ironically, it may have gone down|pg|| nt|rduran1216: now much better to play for diamond Q on|pg|| nt|kareno: Mandatory :)|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|s5|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|kareno: hi|pg|| nt|fabsayc: why the jack?|pg|| nt|kit: and now he blew it|pg|| nt|medwards: ?|pg|| nt|stc: is this true ?|pg|| nt|kareno: Why on earth lead the jack?|pg|| nt|medwards: UNDO?|pg|| nt|Vugraphzff: just reporting the facts, folks.|pg|| nt|medwards: Wow a high ratio compression play.|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d9|nt|kareno: If he ducks now he can still make it. Weird but true. |pg|| pc|dA|pg|| nt|kareno: pulls a trump, ruffs a diamond and ducks a diamond to east|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o14|st||md|4SAKQJ72HKDA4CA932,S54HQ6DJT9832CJT6,S9863H872DKQC8754,STHAJT9543D765CKQ|sv|o|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|p|nt|phil: the South hand *looks* like a monster, but it gets worse with the 1@h opening|pg|| mb|1S|nt|gosia: you just need to memorize the one you agree to with your partner :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|pc|cA|nt|phil: quick claim Im guessing. |pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c5|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|sT|pg|| pc|sK|mc|10|pg|| qx|c14|st||md|4SAKQJ72HKDA4CA932,S54HQ6DJT9832CJT6,S9863H872DKQC8754,STHAJT9543D765CKQ|sv|o|mb|1H|nt|stc: a blind spot|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@H = 10-15|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: but i think meckwell CC says 11-15|pg|| mb|1S|mb|2H|nt|rduran1216: thats too bad, would've been a well deserved 13 (assuming he got some good info in auction)|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|nt|kareno: Oops - ducking the third diamond puts him down. Never mind|pg|| nt|kareno: He just had to play a diamond to the 9. Period|pg|| pc|cA|nt|Vugraphzff: Meck " ruff it partner"|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c4|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|sT|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|h3|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pc|d7|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|d6|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|cT|pg|| mc|10|nt|ahollan1: 1 to compare hampson 22-3 set leads dwyer by 64|pg|| pg|| qx|o15|st||md|1S32HAJ985D873CA93,SKQJ4HT4DAJ52CKJ6,SA985HK76DK96CQT2,ST76HQ32DQT4C8754|sv|n|nt|gosia: last hand|pg|| nt|gosia: be back for the exciting finish soon|pg|| nt|vugraphzfc: last set starts about 25 min from now -- |pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|phil: alright - looking forward to a great last quarter. Can this Cinderella team that has played out of their minds for three matches hold this lead? |pg|| nt|gosia: also the Mahaffey Meltzer match in USA 2 looks like a nail biter !|pg|| pc|s5|nt|vugraphzfc: 25 min|pg|| nt|gosia: they must be exhausted|pg|| nt|vugraphzfc: they do seem tired|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s3|pc|s4|pg|| nt|gosia: 3 of their players have played all the boards so far I think as they are 5 handed|pg|| nt|phil: not only exhausted, but theres an emotional element of playing so well and staying ahead of the best|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d8|pc|d2|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d3|nt|fuquay: I have to go, thx phil and joe|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dK|pg|| nt|phil: later Greg|pg|| nt|vugraphzfc: thanks Greg and others|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|hT|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|sJ|nt|phil: Im heading out too - hopefully theres some others that can grab the mic |pg|| pc|h6|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h8|nt|phil: thanks Joe and everyone|pg|| pc|c6|pc|s8|pc|s6|pg|| pc|h9|pc|sQ|pc|cT|pc|d4|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s9|pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|gosia: now a @d |pg|| mc|3|nt|vugraphzfc: back in about 20 minutes|pg|| pg|| qx|c15|st||md|1S32HAJ985D873CA93,SKQJ4HT4DAJ52CKJ6,SA985HK76DK96CQT2,ST76HQ32DQT4C8754|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1N!|nt|ahollan1: this is our final board for set 7 of 8|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1N = 14-16|pg|| mb|p|nt|fabsayc: i found my heart medicine for the final set|pg|| mb|p|pc|s8|nt|kareno: LOL|pg|| nt|fabsayc: last set will follow this one fairly quickly|pg|| nt|ahollan1: schedule says next set starts in 35 minutes|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|ahollan1: since USA1 & USA2 playing same boards -- cannot start early unless ALL matches ready to play|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sT|pc|d8|pc|s4|pg|| pc|dT|nt|ahollan1: other table on 12 i think voice commentary moving over there|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|d6|pg|| nt|fabsayc: they have almost all day to take their tricks on this hand|pg|| nt|Vugraphzff: start time 6:10 chicago time|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 6:10 Central Daylight but many chicagoans do consider it their time|pg|| nt|ahollan1: [i took my first finesse there - i'm allowed]|pg|| nt|fabsayc: only those living in greenwich, england can claim that|pg|| pc|h6|nt|fabsayc: now the squeeze on declarer|pg|| nt|kareno: I've been to Greenwich :)|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hJ|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hT|pc|hK|nt|medwards: CT?|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|c6|pg|| pc|h8|nt|kareno: England. By ferry from London. We wanted to see where Greenwich mean time originates.|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|c4|pg|| pc|h9|pc|dA|pc|s9|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c3|nt|ahollan1: 13 levin-weinstein 4@S+1|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 4@S+2|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c7|pg|| mc|5|nt|ahollan1: i hope debbie rosenberg isn't watching -- she hates when i mention other room|pg|| nt|ahollan1: open room on 15|pg|| nt|fabsayc: the vote seemed to go against her|pg|| nt|ahollan1: restart in 25|pg|| nt|fabsayc: i think mentioning the key boards at the other table is perfectly reasonable for commentators|pg|| pg||