vg|C 2017 USBC R16,Segment 2 of 8,I,16,30,Rosenthal,4,Robinson,10| rs|1NE+1,2SS+1,3CEx-2,5DN=,6DS-1,3NS+1,1NW-1,2SE-2,4SN=,4HS=,2NE=,2HN-1,3NS=,2HWx-1,4SN+2,4SN+2,5DS=,5DNx=,5DW+1,6CE=,4SS=,4SS=,2DE+1,2SNx-2,3NW-2,3NW-2,3DS=,3SW-3,4HE-1,4HE=| pn|Sontag,Pollack,Berkowitz,Rubin,Woolsey,Rosenthal,Stewart,Silverstei|pg|| qx|o16|st||md|2ST983H52DKQCKJ763,SAJ7HQJ74DJ8CAT94,SQ652HAT83D9743CQ,SK4HK96DAT652C852|sv|e|mb|1D|an|2+ limited|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|c5|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|h5|pc|h4|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|s5|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h8|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h9|pc|s3|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pc|d8|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s4|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hT|pc|c8|pc|c3|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|dK|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c9|mc|8|pg|| qx|c16|st||md|2ST983H52DKQCKJ763,SAJ7HQJ74DJ8CAT94,SQ652HAT83D9743CQ,SK4HK96DAT652C852|sv|e|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dJ|pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|d4|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|c5|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d5|pc|h2|pc|s7|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|s3|pc|h7|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|s2|pc|c2|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h9|pc|s8|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cT|pc|d9|pc|c8|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c9|pc|s5|pc|sK|pg|| pc|dT|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o17|st||md|3S65H8DQJ975CQJT93,SAKQ83HQJ942DKC87,SJT2HAK75DAT8642C,S974HT63D3CAK6542|sv|o|mb|1D|an|2+|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|h8|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|s6|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hT|pc|c3|pc|h9|pg|| pc|cQ|mc|7|pg|| qx|c17|st||md|3S65H8DQJ975CQJT93,SAKQ83HQJ942DKC87,SJT2HAK75DAT8642C,S974HT63D3CAK6542|sv|o|mb|1D|nt|ahollan1: 1@D = 10-15, 2+@D|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: guessing 3@C = less than INV, 5+@C & 4+@D O sets contract |pg|| mb|3C|mb|3D|nt|ahollan1: in fleisher v harris harris played 5@DX making overtrick Fleisher was there for a while but Lo pulled to 5@H|pg|| nt|ahollan1: my guess was not about the meaning - but a prediction of what Woolsey would bid|pg|| mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s4|nt|ahollan1: what is the psychological difference between stewart's delayed vs direct jump to 5@D?|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s7|pc|s6|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h8|pg|| nt|Chick: maybe give pard a chance to double?|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|dK|pg|| mc|11|nt|ahollan1: 3@C bidder was out of the auction after 1st noise|pg|| nt|Chick: as long as 3@C showed diamond support|pg|| pg|| qx|o18|st||md|4S32HKJ8DQJ76CAJ83,SJT764H763D53CK95,SAKHAQ92DAT84CQ72,SQ985HT54DK92CT64|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1D|an|2+|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|an|gf|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|stewball: hi everyone, welcome|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|nt|stewball: not easy to stop here|pg|| mb|4N|mb|p|nt|stewball: been may try a natural 4 not here is he has it in his bag|pg|| nt|stewball: Berk|pg|| mb|6D|mb|p|nt|stewball: unblidled optimism by Sontag, but perhaps this is not a minimum for him|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|stewball: unbridled, damn auto correct|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfk: Sontag showed a minimum when he bid 3@h with a max 3334 or 2344 he would have bid 4@h over 3@d (table talk)|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfk: so he had a max for his min over 4N|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|s9|pc|s3|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|dK|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c3|pc|cK|mc|11|pg|| qx|c18|st||md|4S32HKJ8DQJ76CAJ83,SJT764H763D53CK95,SAKHAQ92DAT84CQ72,SQ985HT54DK92CT64|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: i alerted 3@C as non-inv @C & @D|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@D still nebulous|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|Chick: both minor suit finesses off means they have to avoid slam|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: NS use 3 ranges for opening 1N 1/2 non-vul: 10-12 1/2 vul: 15-16 3rd/4th: 15-17 adjust accordingly for 1@D-1M-1N |pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@D = ART FG, 2-way stayman|pg|| nt|ahollan1: should have mentioned 1N did NOT deny 4@S|pg|| mb|2N|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@H = 3@H, maybe 4@S|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2N RELAY // 3@C = 3@H 4@C|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 3@D is further relay so Stewart could [?should?] have learned about @D fit|pg|| nt|vugraphzfe: n/e discussing auction (quietly)|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s3|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|dK|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sA|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg|| nt|Chick: trying to temp E to cover the club, but finesse would be suicidal|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o19|st||md|1SA8HA875DA8C97653,SKQ32HKT93DKJ4CKQ,S754HQ4DQ973CAJ84,SJT96HJ62DT652CT2|sv|e|mb|1D|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d3|nt|stewball: trouble brewing here if ew don't find @S|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cT|pc|c5|pc|cK|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|sA|pg|| pc|c9|pc|s2|pc|c8|pc|h2|pg|| pc|c6|pc|h3|pc|c4|pc|d5|pg|| pc|c3|pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|d6|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hT|pc|h4|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h5|mc|6|pg|| qx|c19|st||md|1SA8HA875DA8C97653,SKQ32HKT93DKJ4CKQ,S754HQ4DQ973CAJ84,SJT96HJ62DT652CT2|sv|e|mb|1D|mb|1N|mb|d|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h7|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|h9|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hT|pc|s4|pc|h2|pg|| nt|Chick: the @H8 should ask for a diamond back|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cT|pc|c3|pc|cK|pg|| nt|Chick: and it's important because N can ruff out the @HK and avoid declr pitching on it|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|sA|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|s7|pc|s9|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s8|pc|s2|pc|d3|pg|| mc|6|pg|| qx|o20|st||md|2S2HKQJ87D5432CQ96,SK73HT6532D9CT752,SAQT9654HA9DKCK84,SJ8H4DAQJT876CAJ3|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1C|an|strg|nt|stewball: a bit surprised Berk didn't dbl that|pg|| mb|3D|mb|d!|an|gf values|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4H|an|nat|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|h5|pc|hA|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pc|d2|pc|sK|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| nt|stewball: well guessed|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|c4|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c20|st||md|2S2HKQJ87D5432CQ96,SK73HT6532D9CT752,SAQT9654HA9DKCK84,SJ8H4DAQJT876CAJ3|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1C|nt|ahollan1: 1@C = 16+ unbal 17+BAL|pg|| mb|3D|mb|3H|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 3@H is FG, 5+suit|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: woolsey convinced by @D length that partner has more @H then he has @S|pg|| nt|ahollan1: where would NS play if east had passed throughout?|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d4|pc|c7|pc|h9|pg|| nt|Chick: a good illustration of why it's so important to bid over a strong artificial 1@C if you can|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|c2|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d2|pc|c5|pc|hA|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c3|nt|Chick: probably meant the @C8 lead|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cT|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|s8|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sJ|pc|d5|pc|s7|pg|| mc|10|nt|vugraphzfe: yes, C8 then sp, then end play in trump|pg|| pg|| qx|o21|st||md|3SAQHQJ9DT97CQT754,SJ987H64DAQJCAJ92,SKT532HAT73D42C83,S64HK852DK8653CK6|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|stewball: the unspeakable nt|pg|| mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|stewball: if the 1 nt is in range, then Pollack seems to be overbidding|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|c5|pc|cJ|pc|c8|pc|c6|pg|| nt|stewball: may have ben overbidding to find @s but nv it seems aggressive|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|c4|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|d7|pg|| pc|cA|pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|h7|nt|stewball: on the other hand he will make plenty of tricks|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dT|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c21|st||md|3SAQHQJ9DT97CQT754,SJ987H64DAQJCAJ92,SKT532HAT73D42C83,S64HK852DK8653CK6|sv|n|nt|Chick: thanks Jan :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: does 4@H make if silverstein ducks 1st round of @C|pg|| nt|vugraphzfe: kit thought not|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p!|an|no alerrt|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@D = 10-15, 2+@D // 2@H = 5@S 4+@H, non-inv|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|d9|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|c8|pc|d6|pc|dT|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h3|nt|ahollan1: if you've checked the Results page, you'll see that Mahaffey-Wold showing A19 v A42 that means tentative score is 19-42 but there is an Appeal|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h9|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i don't have any detalis|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hJ|pc|h4|pc|h7|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|ahollan1: http://usbf.org/docs/vugraphs/USBC2017/Bracket.php?stage=Roundof16 that link also available from www.bridgewinners.com|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s3|pc|s6|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|c2|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h8|pc|c4|pc|c9|pg|| pc|sK|pc|d8|pc|c5|pc|s9|pg|| pc|s5|mc|7|pg|| qx|o22|st||md|4SJ975HQDA864CA873,STHAJT532DT52CK62,SA42HK987DK9CQJT9,SKQ863H64DQJ73C54|sv|e|nt|Vugraphzfk: theyre playing the board upside down|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sT|pc|s2|nt|Vugraphzfk: its hard to VG when everything is backwards so I'm just going to put in the result on this one; sorry guys|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfk: the @sT was led|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfk: the actual auction was p 1@d 1@h 3@h p 3N AP|pg|| nt|stewball: Sontag played 3 nt on the @s ten lead?|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfk: Berk is declaring|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfk: still at T1|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfk: basically you have to pretend that Berk is S this hand and W is on lead|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h4|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|d4|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c4|pc|c7|pc|cK|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d9|pc|d3|pc|d6|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|c5|pc|c3|pg|| nt|stewball: can make this|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|s3|pc|c8|pc|c6|pg|| nt|stewball: will make this|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|h6|pc|cA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|mc|9|pg|| qx|c22|st||md|4SJ975HQDA864CA873,STHAJT532DT52CK62,SA42HK987DK9CQJT9,SKQ863H64DQJ73C54|sv|e|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: one more nebuloust 1@D please|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: drat|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: convert to penalty?|pg|| nt|Chick: kinda dangerous with passed partner .. I'm betting on 3@C|pg|| nt|ahollan1: woolsey did not open 1N=10-12 or 1@D 10-15 so who knows what is right in long run without peek|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|cQ|pc|c4|nt|Chick: one little defense slip and this will make|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cK|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|c5|pc|c3|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cT|nt|ahollan1: nice trump partner!|pg|| pc|h6|pc|c8|pg|| pc|d3|nt|Chick: it was ... brilliant lead|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dT|pc|dK|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|sT|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d5|pc|h9|pc|d7|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|s6|mc|7|pg|| qx|o23|st||md|1SJ632HKJ9DAK964C5,ST9HQT65D52CAKJ82,SAQ8754H8DT8CQT93,SKHA7432DQJ73C764|sv|b|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|dT|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|sK|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|c4|pc|s2|pc|sT|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|d5|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|h5|pg|| pc|dK|mc|12|nt|stewball: that should be worth an imp or two|pg|| pg|| qx|c23|st||md|1SJ632HKJ9DAK964C5,ST9HQT65D52CAKJ82,SAQ8754H8DT8CQT93,SKHA7432DQJ73C764|sv|b|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@D still 2+|pg|| mb|3S|nt|ahollan1: 1@S = not 4+@H unless FG|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 3@S = 4-fit, some shortness, min that's right MINIMUM|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Woolsey believes the shape justifies the jump |pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dQ|nt|ahollan1: 3@H would show 4-fit, some shortness, non-min|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|dT|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s9|nt|Chick: He can afford to lose the @SK, but not the @SK and a diamond ruff|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sK|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|c7|pc|s2|pc|sT|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d3|nt|Chick: now establish the diamond suit for an extra trick|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d2|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|s3|pg|| pc|dK|pc|h5|pc|h8|pc|d7|pg|| pc|d6|pc|h6|mc|12|pg|| qx|o24|st||md|2S4H5DAJT863CJ9862,SJ763HQT42D5CA743,SAK52HJ93DQ974CKQ,SQT98HAK876DK2CT5|sv|o|nt|stewball: Stewart Wolsey stopp d in game on 18, didn't even make a try|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|mb|2C|an|majors|mb|3C|an|!d|nt|stewball: not t clear what 3 C means here...|pg|| mb|3D|nt|stewball: ah thanks|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4C|nt|stewball: 400 available in 5@d|pg|| nt|stewball: Berk has an excellent hand for him|pg|| mb|4D|mb|d|mb|4H|mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|nt|stewball: one wonder why W didn't bid 4@d the first time if he was going to game|pg|| mb|p|pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hA|pc|d3|pc|h2|pc|h9|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|sT|pg|| pc|dQ|mc|11|pg|| qx|c24|st||md|2S4H5DAJT863CJ9862,SJ763HQT42D5CA743,SAK52HJ93DQ974CKQ,SQT98HAK876DK2CT5|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1H|nt|Chick: S knows that EW have an 8+ heart fit, so he'll jump to some level of diamonds as preempt|pg|| nt|Chick: the only question is how high|pg|| mb|4D|nt|Chick: his partner may have as few as 2 diamonds, but unlikely there is a better place|pg|| mb|4H|nt|Chick: N is looking at a probably 3 tricks, with one more possible in diamonds, unlikely he will sac at 5@D|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|4N|mb|d|mb|5D|nt|Chick: now S shows his clubs|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg|| nt|Chick: personally I think that was too aggressive of S ... his partner declined to bid 5@D with an opening hand, so setting 4@H was very possible|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|Chick: of course if he manages to make 5@D somehow .... :)|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|sT|pc|s4|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|d5|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o25|st||md|3S752HKQ7643DJ5CT2,SK8643HJ2DKQ32C43,SAJT9HT985D94C765,SQHADAT876CAKQJ98|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1C|an|strg|mb|2H|mb|2S|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|5C|an|two places|mb|p|mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|stewball: prempts work|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h2|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d5|pc|dK|nt|stewball: 13 coming here, ot in slam|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c25|st||md|3S752HKQ7643DJ5CT2,SK8643HJ2DKQ32C43,SAJT9HT985D94C765,SQHADAT876CAKQJ98|sv|e|nt|ahollan1: robinson 20-5 set leads rosenthal by 30 |pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|nt|ahollan1: sorry other me meant to type that in different table|pg|| nt|stewball: lol|pg|| mb|2H|mb|2S|mb|4H|mb|6C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|hA|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|c7|pg|| nt|ahollan1: assuming 1@C:nat - (2@H) in other rooms -- how many wests do you think bid 2@S??|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cT|pc|c4|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c8|pc|h6|pc|hJ|pc|c6|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sA|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i would think 2@S only when 1@C was strong otherwise DBL|pg|| pc|h9|pc|cQ|pc|hQ|pc|s4|pg|| nt|Chick: I'd bid 2@S with 5 of them|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d5|pc|dK|mc|12|nt|ahollan1: but only 8 hcp, bad @S and no guaranteed fit|pg|| pg|| qx|o26|st||md|4SAKQ94H864DK5CJ94,ST76H975DJ7CAKT53,SJ83HAKQJDQ862CQ2,S52HT32DAT943C876|sv|b|nt|stewball: badly needed|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|stewball: same auction but east bid 6 clubs over 4 hearts|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|4S|nt|stewball: this is a yawner|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cQ|pc|c7|pc|c9|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c26|st||md|4SAKQ94H864DK5CJ94,ST76H975DJ7CAKT53,SJ83HAKQJDQ862CQ2,S52HT32DAT943C876|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@S limited by failure to open 1@C|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cA|pc|c2|nt|ahollan1: 25 in fleisher v harris barron & pepsi both chose DBL with west hand|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cQ|pc|c6|nt|ahollan1: big club 1M-4M is very wide range from pure preempt to 3-fit opening bid and many other hands that just have no slam ambition|pg|| pc|c9|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o27|st||md|1SKQ965H76DT85CT96,SAT742H82D73CQJ74,S83HAQJ53DK2CK852,SJHKT94DAQJ964CA3|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h7|pc|h8|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|c6|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|h4|pc|h6|pg|| pc|s3|pc|d4|pc|s5|pc|s2|pg|| pc|h9|pc|d8|pc|s4|pc|h3|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|cA|pg|| pc|hT|pc|dT|pc|s7|mc|9|pg|| qx|c27|st||md|1SKQ965H76DT85CT96,SAT742H82D73CQJ74,S83HAQJ53DK2CK852,SJHKT94DAQJ964CA3|sv|o|mb|2D!|an|multi|nt|vugraphzfe: W reading system notes|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@D = weak, Weak, WEAK 2@H or 2@S opener no strong options|pg|| mb|2S|nt|ahollan1: acbl defense, which can be read by EW during the auction - http://web2.acbl.org/defensedatabase/mc20.pdf|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@S = pass/correct does NOT promise @H ex: could want to play in own @S suit|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg|| nt|ahollan1: since NS play 2@D-2@S-2N/3@C = @H 2@S can also be used to get out in a minor|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c9|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d8|pc|d3|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dT|pc|h2|pc|s8|pg|| pc|c5|pc|h4|pc|cT|pc|c4|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|h9|pg|| pc|c8|pc|d4|pc|h7|pc|c7|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|s5|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s2|pc|h3|mc|6|pg|| qx|o28|st||md|2SJ92HK83DKJ63CJ92,SAK4HJ54DAT8CAK87,SQ53HQT6D52CQT653,ST876HA972DQ974C4|sv|n|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c5|pc|c4|nt|reisig: Looks hopeless ..from here :)|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c8|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|h2|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|h7|pg|| pc|d8|pc|h6|pc|d9|pc|dK|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s7|pc|s9|pg|| nt|reisig: The contract seems .."pretty normal" ...likely small or no swing|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|c28|st||md|2SJ92HK83DKJ63CJ92,SAK4HJ54DAT8CAK87,SQ53HQT6D52CQT653,ST876HA972DQ974C4|sv|n|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|d6|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c7|pc|c6|pc|s6|pg|| nt|Chick: You can see scores at http://usbf.org/docs/vugraphs/USBC2017/Bracket.php?stage=Roundof16|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|s7|pg|| pc|dT|pc|s5|pc|d7|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s8|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|h9|pc|hK|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|sQ|pc|sT|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d3|pc|c8|pc|cT|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o29|st||md|3SAQ3HJT2D52CAK654,SKJT42H9763DK7C98,S75HAKDJ98643C732,S986HQ854DAQTCQJT|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|nt|stewball: sorry was on the phone, hi Richie|pg|| mb|1D|nt|reisig: Hiya John :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|stewball: as Kaplan would say, you could buy my rights to the nebulous @d for a bent subway token|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|nt|reisig: I remember those "token" days :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|sT|pc|s5|pc|s9|nt|reisig: Now ...110 :)|pg|| pc|sQ|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|d8|pc|dT|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c2|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|dA|pg|| pc|cT|nt|stewball: kind of unlucky but not clear that aggressive lead called for|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c29|st||md|3SAQ3HJT2D52CAK654,SKJT42H9763DK7C98,S75HAKDJ98643C732,S986HQ854DAQTCQJT|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|nt|ahollan1: 1N 3rd/4th = 15-17 so nebulous 1@D|pg|| mb|1S|nt|ahollan1: uph 2@D would be F1 not sure if that applies to passed hand|pg|| mb|3D|nt|ahollan1: soooo not sure if 3@D = preempt or maybe something stronger|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraphzfe: 3D alerted, cdn't read|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|h6|pg|| nt|ahollan1: which way do you vote over precision 1@D Rosenthal's 1@S or Pollack's PASS |pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|hT|pc|h7|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|c8|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|c5|pc|h3|pc|c3|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|Chick: Pass for me|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dA|pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|d6|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i like the suit too much to pass - but would never argue against anyone who prefers pass|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|sA|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h9|pc|s7|pc|h8|pg|| mc|6|pg|| qx|o30|st||md|4S9HK3DJT654CK9864,SQ32HQ972DK3CAJ75,ST765H64DAQ82CQT2,SAKJ84HAJT85D97C3|sv|o|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|reisig: OK -- The bar is open ..for this hand!|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|stewball: another yawner|pg|| mb|p|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d9|pg|| nt|reisig: Looks like the end of this set|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s4|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|stewball: 9 imps out of nowhere on 29 when W overcalled and went - 300 when his pard thought he had an overcall|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h6|pc|h5|pc|hK|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d3|nt|stewball: I mean 5|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d7|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|h3|pc|s3|pg|| mc|9|nt|reisig: A matter of "style"|pg|| nt|stewball: well that one wasn't too stylish|pg|| nt|stewball: I think the set is done, usual kudos to the vg operator, see you next time|pg|| nt|reisig: Thx all|pg|| nt|reisig: I never thought of this swing|pg|| pg|| qx|c30|st||md|4S9HK3DJT654CK9864,SQ32HQ972DK3CAJ75,ST765H64DAQ82CQT2,SAKJ84HAJT85D97C3|sv|o|nt|ahollan1: whatever 3@D showed - it put NS in winning position|pg|| nt|vugraphzfe: last hand of set, tx, Al, Chick, specs. back at 3:15|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|ahollan1: if woolsey won't bid 2N with south hand that should tell you it isn't even worth considering the bid|pg|| mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1N was semi-force|pg|| nt|ahollan1: hefty hand for west must be absolute max|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c3|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|hK|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d9|pc|d4|pc|d3|pg|| mc|10|nt|ahollan1: restart in about 70min|pg|| pg||