vg|Camrose Trophy 2017 Match 3,Stanza 2 of 2,I,17,32,SBU,54,Ireland,12| rs|4SN+1,4SN+1,3NS+1,4HN=,1NS+1,2SW=,5DN+1,3NS+1,3NS+2,3NN+4,4HS-1,4HS-1,4DW-1,3DW=,4DN-1,4HW-1,3CE+1,3HS-1,4SS=,5CEx-3,1HS+1,2SN+1,3DS+1,2DS+3,3NN=,3NS=,3NN-2,4SW-2,3NW=,3NW-1,3NE+2,3NE=| pn|Stephens,Carroll,Morgan,Garvey,McGANN,PUNCH,HANLON,PETERKIN|pg|| qx|o17|st||md|3SAJHKT9873DK2CJ76,S975HQ2DJT76CA943,SKQT862H5DA943CK8,S43HAJ64DQ85CQT52|sv|o|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2H!|an|GF|mb|p|mb|2N!|an|good spades|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c8|pg|| nt|vugraphzhm: Halfway in time. They'll have to pick up the pace|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c7|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|d7|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|s2|pc|h6|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|sJ|pc|dT|pg|| pc|h7|pc|c4|pc|s6|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|d9|mc|11|pg|| qx|c17|st||md|3SAJHKT9873DK2CJ76,S975HQ2DJT76CA943,SKQT862H5DA943CK8,S43HAJ64DQ85CQT52|sv|o|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: after scoring @DK do you think @C shift is right or does @S figure to be best chance at beating 3N?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: obviously didn't matter on actual layout for 32|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@S = 10-16|pg|| mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|jacksond: club knocked out what might have been only entry to hearts|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@D = 5+@H|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c2|pc|c6|nt|ahollan1: 2@S was 6+@S, 10-13 hcp and i think 0-2@H|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c8|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c7|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg|| nt|jacksond: hard to see another trick for the defence |pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pc|c4|pc|s2|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|d6|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hQ|pc|d4|pc|h4|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d8|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s3|mc|11|pg|| qx|o18|st||md|4SAK63HA8DKQ6CJ863,ST542HJDAJ953C542,SQ87HKT6543DT7CAK,SJ9HQ972D842CQT97|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|d4|pc|d6|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|h8|pc|c5|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|d7|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|c7|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|c6|pc|c4|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|c8|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|sQ|mc|10|pg|| qx|c18|st||md|4SAK63HA8DKQ6CJ863,ST542HJDAJ953C542,SQ87HKT6543DT7CAK,SJ9HQ972D842CQT97|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: sorry 1@C = forcing a) BAL, 11-13 b) 17+|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@H = 4+suit, maybe longer @C/@D, 8= hcp|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@C = ART, FG a) nat b) BAL |pg|| pc|cT|pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|cA|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@H = 6@H, maybe 4other|pg|| pc|h5|nt|ahollan1: 4@H = i don't care about other|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|h8|pc|d3|pc|hK|pc|h7|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|c6|pc|c2|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o19|st||md|1SQ54HQ2DKQ542CA63,SKT872HAK3DAC7542,SA63HJ876DT9CQJT8,SJ9HT954DJ8763CK9|sv|e|mb|1D|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c5|pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|c9|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dA|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|h4|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hJ|pc|h9|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|d6|pc|d4|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c8|pc|s9|mc|8|pg|| qx|c19|st||md|1SQ54HQ2DKQ542CA63,SKT872HAK3DAC7542,SA63HJ876DT9CQJT8,SJ9HT954DJ8763CK9|sv|e|mb|1N|mb|2C|nt|ahollan1: another Carrot Club opener 1@D would be unbal|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1N = 13.5-16 south hand doesn't look like 13.5 to me|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@C = @C + another|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cT|nt|ahollan1: KnR evaluates south to a mere 11.70 |pg|| pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i knew the algorithm would penalize the major suit holdings|pg|| nt|ahollan1: a) it hates quacks b) it downgrades honours in short suits|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h4|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|c9|pc|c3|pg|| pc|h7|nt|ahollan1: can hanlon find @SA shift?|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c8|nt|ahollan1: i think that was the only way to defeat 2@S|pg|| pc|s9|pc|c6|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|s2|pc|dT|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|sJ|nt|ahollan1: @SA @S kills the crossruff we're watching|pg|| pc|sQ|pg|| mc|8|nt|ahollan1: i do usually defend better when looking at all the cards|pg|| pg|| qx|o20|st||md|2SKHKJ74DKJ75CAQ84,SQT8543HAQTDT2C73,SA762H9DA986CKJ95,SJ9H86532DQ43CT62|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|3S!|mb|p|mb|4C|an|.|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h6|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|h9|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|c3|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hT|pc|d8|pc|h2|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c7|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|d6|pc|h3|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d3|nt|eamongall: Part score swing to Scotland on 19 |pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dK|mc|12|nt|vugraphzhm: Less than 40 mins for 6 boards|pg|| pg|| qx|c20|st||md|2SKHKJ74DKJ75CAQ84,SQT8543HAQTDT2C73,SA762H9DA986CKJ95,SJ9H86532DQ43CT62|sv|b|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: marshall miles taught us that stoppers are relative|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s5|nt|ahollan1: the argument is -- if rho doesn't raise the preempt then either a) partner has help in the suit b) the suit will block|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dQ|pc|d7|pc|c7|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i'm chatting with the person who taught me the term kingleton|pg|| nt|ahollan1: we're deciding if a special name should be given to a singleton king stopper |pg|| nt|ahollan1: my submission stopperton|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i doubt it is a possible final contract, but if mcgann balances with DBL and hanlon converts -- can defense get 800 or is 500 the limit?|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hJ|nt|ahollan1: seems to me that defense can keep declarer from reaching dummy for @H toward the tenace so 800 is definitely possible|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h9|pg|| pc|hA|pc|s6|mc|10|pg|| qx|o21|st||md|3S54HKQT65DJ5CAKJ7,SQT63H972DK32C654,SAK7H84DAQT976CQ3,SJ982HAJ3D84CT982|sv|n|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s5|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d8|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pg|| nt|eamongall: looks like slam on a finesse here |pg|| mc|11|nt|eamongall: but no reason to bid it |pg|| pg|| qx|c21|st||md|3S54HKQT65DJ5CAKJ7,SQT63H972DK32C654,SAK7H84DAQT976CQ3,SJ982HAJ3D84CT982|sv|n|nt|ahollan1: is this time for funky 1N opener?|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@D = 10-16, 4+@D, unbal|pg|| nt|ahollan1: note: 1N rebid shows @C|pg|| mb|2N!|mb|p|mb|3C!|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: transfer rebids for unbalanced 1@D opener|pg|| mb|3D|nt|ahollan1: 2N = a) @D b) @D & 4-fit, some shortage and i think MAX|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 3@C = RELAY, strong i think that means FG|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c9|pc|c7|pc|c6|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d5|mc|13|pg|| qx|o22|st||md|4S84HA873D974CAK86,SAJT653H9DKQCQ754,SK92HKQJT6DJ65C93,SQ7H542DAT832CJT2|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|1S|mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dQ|pc|d5|nt|eamongall: lets see if they can cash out |pg|| pc|d2|pc|d4|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s7|pc|s4|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d9|pc|h9|pc|dJ|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c22|st||md|4S84HA873D974CAK86,SAJT653H9DKQCQ754,SK92HKQJT6DJ65C93,SQ7H542DAT832CJT2|sv|e|nt|ahollan1: a friendly version of BBO would allow operator to INSERT PASS|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1S|mb|2D|nt|ahollan1: my network kicked me out of bbo -- did i miss anything other than ability to explain ns auctoin on 21?|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: having to do multiple UNDO is awful for operator|pg|| mb|2H|nt|ahollan1: P-1@C|pg|| mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@C = forcing a) BAL, 11-13|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: b) 17+|pg|| mb|p|pc|dK|nt|ahollan1: 2@D = 5+@H a) 8-12 hcp b) FG not 6+@H else 2@S |pg|| nt|vugraphzhn: Sorry, lost the play while correcting auction|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o23|st||md|1SKQ932HKJ83D5CQ76,SJ7HA75DAKJ764CAK,SA654HQ64DT932CJ3,ST8HT92DQ8CT98542|sv|b|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s2|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c2|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pc|d5|pg|| pc|d8|pc|s3|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d9|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dT|pc|c4|pc|s9|pg|| pc|d7|pc|s4|pc|c5|pc|sK|pg|| pc|d4|pc|cJ|pc|h9|pc|c7|pg|| pc|cK|pc|s5|mc|9|pg|| qx|c23|st||md|1SKQ932HKJ83D5CQ76,SJ7HA75DAKJ764CAK,SA654HQ64DT932CJ3,ST8HT92DQ8CT98542|sv|b|nt|ahollan1: that is why BBO forcing operator to UNDO is so bad -- either historical record has bad auction or misses play|pg|| nt|ahollan1: end of [years long] tirade|pg|| mb|1S|mb|d|nt|ahollan1: 1@S = 10-16|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s2|pc|s7|pg|| nt|jacksond: Strange to sell out with a 9 card spade fit|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d4|nt|ahollan1: i was just about to admit that i don't know what options hanlon had over DBL -- but certainly thought he would take push|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dQ|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o24|st||md|2S86HA3DKJ52CJ8752,SAK5432HQJ64D7CKT,SQJHKT7DAQT943C96,ST97H9852D86CAQ43|sv|o|mb|1S|mb|2D|mb|2S|mb|2N!|an|Good D raise|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s9|pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sJ|pc|s7|pc|s8|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|h8|pc|hA|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|d5|pc|s2|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h3|nt|eamongall: This is a real match of attrition with SBU grimly holding on to most of their 42 imp lead |pg|| pc|h6|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h5|pc|dJ|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|c6|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|c9|pg|| nt|eamongall: and 1 down in a competitive part score battle |pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c24|st||md|2S86HA3DKJ52CJ8752,SAK5432HQJ64D7CKT,SQJHKT7DAQT943C96,ST97H9852D86CAQ43|sv|o|nt|ahollan1: found it 1@S-DBL-2@H would be 3-card raise|pg|| mb|1S|mb|2D|mb|d|nt|ahollan1: 1@S = 4+suit otherwise i would bid 2@S rather than DBL|pg|| mb|3C!|mb|4H|nt|ahollan1: i might bid 2@S anyway since if partner has 4@H then she has 5@S|pg|| nt|jacksond: Madame Punch bids them up so may bid game|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dA|nt|jacksond: Confirmed by a few specs|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|d7|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|h4|pg|| nt|jacksond: All she has to is make it.|pg|| nt|ahollan1: after 2@S instead of DBL does defense find the @H ruff to defeat 4@S?|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c6|nt|ahollan1: carroll-garvey play same system as hanlon-mcgann, Carrot Club|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c2|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|h6|nt|jacksond: These defenders are sharp so cant see her getting home|pg|| pc|hT|pg|| nt|ahollan1: so 1@S was 10-16 and no way that opener will go to game opposite a mere 2@S bid|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|cK|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h7|pc|h5|pc|hA|pg|| pc|c7|pc|s2|pc|d4|pc|cA|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sQ|pc|s7|pc|s8|pg|| nt|ahollan1: mcgann knows @c will be ruffed with natural trump trick should he try something else?|pg|| pc|s4|mc|9|pg|| qx|o25|st||md|3SATHQJ9642DAJTC52,SKQ85HA83DK52CJ96,S97643HK7D8764CQT,SJ2HT5DQ93CAK8743|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|hK|pc|hT|pg|| pc|c6|nt|eamongall: 5 imps on 23 to SBU after Hanlon McGann under competed the part score or maybe Morgan Stephens over competed |pg|| pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c9|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sT|pc|s5|pc|s3|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c25|st||md|3SATHQJ9642DAJTC52,SKQ85HA83DK52CJ96,S97643HK7D8764CQT,SJ2HT5DQ93CAK8743|sv|e|nt|ahollan1: final board of the match/day|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2 matches tomorrow to finish the 1st Weekend round robin|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2nd weekend [i think] March 03-05|pg|| mb|3H|nt|ahollan1: 1@H = 10-16|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: drat i did not anticipate 3@H|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sA|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|ahollan1: probably 1 imp to ireland|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|cT|pg|| nt|eamongall: looks about that |pg|| pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c9|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|d4|pg|| nt|ahollan1: england big win over scotland takes the lead over ireland|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d6|nt|jacksond: Diamond does declarers work for him|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|h2|nt|jacksond: Heart might beat it 2 |pg|| pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hT|nt|ahollan1: defense help might mean 2 imp swing|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|d7|mc|8|nt|eamongall: Well done to SBU ...held on to half the lead .. Good win |pg|| nt|ahollan1: more tomorrow check bbo schedule for start times that are translated to viewer's time zone|pg|| pg|| qx|o26|st||md|4SAQ764HJ942DAQ62C,SJ85HA863D3CT9632,SKT92HQT5DJ7CQ875,S3HK7DKT9854CAKJ4|sv|b|mb|1D|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|d|mb|4S|mb|p|nt|eamongall: SBU should be making 4@S here to balance most of the 800|pg|| nt|vugraphzhm: Last board of the day. Thanks to everyone spectating. Restart at 10 am tomorrow|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s8|pc|sK|pc|d5|pg|| pc|s9|pc|d9|pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|hT|pc|hK|pg|| pc|cK|pc|s6|pc|c2|pc|c5|pg|| pc|dA|pc|c3|pc|dJ|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d2|pc|h6|pc|sT|nt|eamongall: lose a @D and 2 @Hs |pg|| pc|dT|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h7|pc|h4|nt|eamongall: for making |pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c26|st||md|4SAQ764HJ942DAQ62C,SJ85HA863D3CT9632,SKT92HQT5DJ7CQ875,S3HK7DKT9854CAKJ4|sv|b|mb|1D|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|2S|mb|3C|mb|3S|mb|4C|nt|jacksond: 4S plays well|pg|| mb|4S|mb|5C|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s8|pc|sT|pc|c4|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|d9|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|c2|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|s7|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|h3|pc|c7|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h6|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|cA|pc|h9|pc|h8|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o27|st||md|1SAQ8HAKJ96DAJT5CK,SK43H53DK94CQJ843,ST9762H84DQ32CT62,SJ5HQT72D876CA975|sv|o|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|cK|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s9|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h8|pc|h7|pg|| pc|h6|pc|s3|pc|d2|pc|hT|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|dQ|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c27|st||md|1SAQ8HAKJ96DAJT5CK,SK43H53DK94CQJ843,ST9762H84DQ32CT62,SJ5HQT72D876CA975|sv|o|mb|1C!|nt|ahollan1: 1@C = forcing a) BAL, 11-13 b) 17+|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H!|nt|ahollan1: 1@D usually 0-7 [i've never seen option 2=BAL, 22+ hcp|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@H = a) 3+suit, BAL, 11-13 HCP b) 4+suit, 17+ HCP, if 4 then 5+@C/@D|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: opener's 1@C-1@D-1N rebid would show 17-18|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@S = 4+@S, nothing about hcp|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@C = 5+@H, maybe 3@S, unbal, 17+ hcp|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: i never have figured out responder's follow-up to 2@C|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jacksond: Any higher than 2S was going to be very difficult for declarer. As it is work to do|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|d3|pg|| nt|jacksond: sryy work to do in 4s not in 2s|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|cK|pg|| pc|c5|pc|s8|pc|c3|pc|c2|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|d6|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c7|pc|sQ|pc|c8|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h8|pc|h7|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|s5|pg|| pc|h6|nt|ahollan1: i finally found a note to myself guessing that 2@C-2@D was the default bid and that 2@C-2@H shows 3@H w/4-5 hcp|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o28|st||md|2SQ532HAQDAJ7532CJ,SJ87H976DQ9CAK984,SK94HKJ532DK6C762,SAT6HT84DT84CQT53|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2D|mb|2S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|h2|pc|h8|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|h4|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|d6|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|d8|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hT|pc|s2|pc|h7|pg|| pc|hJ|mc|10|pg|| qx|c28|st||md|2SQ532HAQDAJ7532CJ,SJ87H976DQ9CAK984,SK94HKJ532DK6C762,SAT6HT84DT84CQT53|sv|n|nt|ahollan1: if Hanlon really bid 2@D that would fit part of my guess|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|jacksond: When you write a note to yourself AL do you answer/|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: i have to write 2 notes|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|ahollan1: note 2 = read note 1|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@D = 10-16 HCP, 4+@D, unbal, maybe longer @C|pg|| mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h7|pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|hA|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|h8|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|d6|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|d8|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|cJ|pc|h9|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|dT|pc|d3|pc|c4|pg|| nt|vugraphzhn: Sorry, lost the play|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o29|st||md|3SAKQ3HADA9542CQJT,SJ762HK98654DQ7C4,ST84HQJ2DKT3C7632,S95HT73DJ86CAK985|sv|b|nt|eamongall: Did someone open a 3 card suit there |pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraphzhm: Sure did!!|pg|| mb|1D|nt|eamongall: Did anyone arrive waving a stick |pg|| mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3H!|an|splinter|mb|p|nt|vugraphzhm: Played without comment|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c8|pc|cT|pc|c4|pc|c3|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dK|pc|d8|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|d9|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|hA|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|s8|pc|s9|pg|| pc|dA|pc|h4|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|d5|pc|h8|pc|c2|pc|c5|pg|| pc|d4|pc|h5|pc|c6|pc|c9|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s7|pc|sT|pc|h3|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c29|st||md|3SAKQ3HADA9542CQJT,SJ762HK98654DQ7C4,ST84HQJ2DKT3C7632,S95HT73DJ86CAK985|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@C = forcing a) BAL, 11-13 b) 17+ this is a recording|pg|| mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: i had convinced myself that 2N = 19-21 would not be opened :(|pg|| pc|h6|nt|ahollan1: running set scores http://www.ebu.co.uk/documents/results-data/live/camrose2017.htm|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|hA|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i think if mcgann had opened 1@C then hanlon would be playing 3N|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cT|pc|c4|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cJ|pc|h4|pc|c3|pg|| nt|ahollan1: top @C plays seem to be more matchpoint oriented than imps|pg|| pc|h7|pc|d4|nt|ahollan1: but if peterkin places punch with @DQ [because of declarer's @D to 10] then maybe his only chance is for @C 22|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|s3|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|s2|pg|| nt|ahollan1: can i retract?|pg|| mc|9|nt|ahollan1: thinking more about it - shifting to top @C does seem to be best|pg|| pg|| qx|o30|st||md|4ST92HA8764DKJ3C42,SQJ8543HD42CAT863,SAK7HQT5DA985CQJ9,S6HKJ932DQT76CK75|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s6|nt|vugraphzhm: This may take some time|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|s3|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c4|pc|c6|pc|c9|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|d6|pg|| pc|d3|pc|s4|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|h4|pc|cA|pg|| pc|cT|pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|h6|pg|| mc|7|nt|vugraphzhm: It did!|pg|| pg|| qx|c30|st||md|4ST92HA8764DKJ3C42,SQJ8543HD42CAT863,SAK7HQT5DA985CQJ9,S6HKJ932DQT76CK75|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|4S|nt|ahollan1: EW convention card does say 2M opener = 5-9, 5-card suit|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sA|nt|ahollan1: i wonder which flaw(s) convinced peterkin to pass in 1st seat|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s9|pc|s4|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|ahollan1: how does auction proceed after 2@H-?|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|cA|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|ahollan1: they do play 2@H-2@S as nat, NF|pg|| pc|s7|pc|h2|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|d6|pc|sT|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dK|pc|s3|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|c2|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o31|st||md|1ST965HKT9D76CKJ52,SKQ72HAQDQJ4CQ863,SA84H763DKT985CT9,SJ3HJ8542DA32CA74|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dT|pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|h9|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|h4|pc|hT|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|c3|pc|h7|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|c9|pc|cA|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c31|st||md|1ST965HKT9D76CKJ52,SKQ72HAQDQJ4CQ863,SA84H763DKT985CT9,SJ3HJ8542DA32CA74|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1C|nt|ahollan1: 1@C = 4+suit|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|nt|ahollan1: EW play weak NT throughout|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|nt|ahollan1: so 1N rebid = strong NT but possibly 4@S|pg|| mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d9|nt|ahollan1: cross-table of matches played and current standings http://www.ebu.co.uk/documents/results-data/2017/camrose/camrose.htm|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|h9|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|h4|nt|ahollan1: england has 25 imp lead in match against scotland so we must be close to seeing swap of top 2 teams|pg|| pc|hT|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|s5|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|s2|pc|h7|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d4|nt|jacksond: Contract going down, then making, now going down again|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dA|pg|| pc|h5|pc|s6|pc|c3|pc|s8|pg|| pc|h8|pc|c2|pc|dQ|pc|c9|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o32|st||md|2S43H65DK6432C9764,SQTHKJ9873D95CKQ3,SJ9862HA42DQT7CA5,SAK75HQTDAJ8CJT82|sv|e|mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|s5|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dJ|pc|d2|pc|d5|pg|| pc|c2|mc|11|pg|| qx|c32|st||md|2S43H65DK6432C9764,SQTHKJ9873D95CKQ3,SJ9862HA42DQT7CA5,SAK75HQTDAJ8CJT82|sv|e|mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|dQ|nt|ahollan1: good lead at other forms of scoring|pg|| pc|d8|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|d9|pg|| nt|jacksond: Gains a few imps here too and unlucky not to beat contract|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c8|mc|9|pg||