vg|2016 Baze Sr KO Final,Segment 1 of 4,I,1,15,Nickell,0,Lewis,0| rs|2HN=,4SS=,3NE+3,6CE=,1NN=,1NN=,4HS=,3NS+2,3NE-4,2HN+1,PASS,3HW+1,3NS+2,3NS+1,3NE-1,4SE+1,2SS=,4SN-1,6NS=,6CS-1,4DS-4,4HEx-1,2DW+4,3HS+1,3NW+2,3CE+1,3NN-2,3HW-2,3HN=,4DW-1| pn|Katz,Dunitz,Nickell,Baqai,L. Lewis,Rodwell,P. Lewis,Meckstroth|pg|| qx|o1|st||md|3SQ8765HK7DKJCJ652,SKTH53DT9432CQT84,SA32HAT962DA765CK,SJ94HQJ84DQ8CA973|sv|o|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s4|pc|s5|nt|Vugraphzfe: had to change computers can only give resultof this hand|pg|| mc|13|pg|| qx|c1|st||md|3SQ8765HK7DKJCJ652,SKTH53DT9432CQT84,SA32HAT962DA765CK,SJ94HQJ84DQ8CA973|sv|o|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| nt|ahollan1: click on player name for access to convention cards, system summary forms and other stuff|pg|| nt|ahollan1: we lost the open room :(|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o2|st||md|4ST86HT8DJ76532CJ5,S75H4DQ98CAT97643,SAQJHQJ97532DT4C2,SK9432HAK6DAKCKQ8|sv|n|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|2H|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hT|pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|hK|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|c2|pg|| mc|12|nt|RDS Reno: 6@C was bid in the CR|pg|| pg|| qx|c2|st||md|4ST86HT8DJ76532CJ5,S75H4DQ98CAT97643,SAQJHQJ97532DT4C2,SK9432HAK6DAKCKQ8|sv|n|mb|1C!|an|STR|mb|p|mb|1D!|an|0-7|mb|2H|nt|ahollan1: 1@C = 16+ unbal or 17+ BAL|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@D = 0-7|pg|| nt|ahollan1: meckwell will upgrade with A + K but even with that @C suit, not enough to force to game|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|nt|kareno: Hi from Las Vegas :)|pg|| mb|5C|mb|p|mb|6C|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: i thought meck DBL = takeout but maybe they play it two way|pg|| nt|RDS Reno: That @H bid by N will allow this to make, if S leads one ... instead of a @S|pg|| mb|p|pc|hT|nt|ahollan1: 6@C cold from east|pg|| mc|12|nt|kareno: It would make on any lead.|pg|| pg|| qx|o3|st||md|1SQT82HKT2D7CK7432,SJ543HAJ9DQ94CT65,S97HQ73DAJT86CAQ8,SAK6H8654DK532CJ9|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h8|pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c9|pc|c3|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c8|pc|d2|pc|cK|pc|cT|pg|| pc|c7|nt|RDS Reno: Hello specs. I'm in Reno, Nevada, and will be adding a bit of commentary. Most of my comments will be intended for the "less-than-expert" players who are watching.|pg|| pc|s5|pc|d6|pc|s6|pg|| pc|c4|pc|d9|pc|s7|pc|h4|pg|| nt|RDS Reno: N should now take 8 tricks ... EW can only get 2S 2H and 1D now|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|c3|st||md|1SQT82HKT2D7CK7432,SJ543HAJ9DQ94CT65,S97HQ73DAJT86CAQ8,SAK6H8654DK532CJ9|sv|e|nt|RDS Reno: Oh, true ... Looked at it wrong.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfb: Meck asks whether they raise on 3 card support often and Paul says no|pg|| nt|ahollan1: open room dunitz-baqai also playing a big club but i don't know any details|pg|| nt|kareno: I dunno - I often watch Mitch Dunitz playing but not with this partner|pg|| nt|ahollan1: NS play 1N=12-14 EXCEPT 3rd = 15-17|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c9|pc|c2|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cJ|pc|c3|pc|c6|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: I think the computer in here is okay, so if yours starts complaining about battery, message me and I'll bring this one in|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d7|pg|| pc|c8|pc|s6|pc|cK|pc|cT|pg|| pc|c4|pc|s5|pc|h7|pc|d3|pg|| pc|c7|nt|kareno: Careful seven tricks.|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o4|st||md|2SJ63HKQJ2DAQ7C864,SQ9754HT9765D42C2,SAHA43DKJ853CA973,SKT82H8DT96CKQJT5|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|nt|RDS Reno: Concerned about the @S suit, N played it safe for 9T and a push.|pg|| nt|RDS Reno: 7T ... sorry|pg|| mb|2S!|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|d9|pc|dA|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h8|pg|| pc|h3|pc|c5|pc|hK|pc|hT|pg|| nt|RDS Reno: A fairly uncommon game bid with a 4-3 fit. The 5-1 @H break will make this dicey, but it should make.|pg|| pc|hQ|mc|10|pg|| qx|c4|st||md|2SJ63HKQJ2DAQ7C864,SQ9754HT9765D42C2,SAHA43DKJ853CA973,SKT82H8DT96CKQJT5|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2H!|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfb: I think the computer in here is okay, so if yours starts complaining about battery, message me and I'll bring this one in|pg|| nt|kareno: Playing weak notrump, the raise can show a strong nt type hand like this one.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg|| pc|d3|mc|11|pg|| qx|o5|st||md|3SAQJ6HAD842C97643,S32H54DQJT9753CA2,SK87HKT9732D6CK85,ST954HQJ86DAKCQJT|sv|n|nt|RDS Reno: A @S or @C lead would have made that much more diffucult.|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|RDS Reno: Here the def can take 4S and 2H if that can untangle them.|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|cT|pg|| nt|RDS Reno: Now another @C will seal off the W hand|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cJ|pc|c3|pc|cA|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|s3|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: discussion with director on claim stay tuned|pg|| nt|RDS Reno: W might have bid 3NT as a tactical bid ... with his long @D and weak hand ... believing NS may have game, or at least a high part-score.|pg|| mc|5|pg|| qx|c5|st||md|3SAQJ6HAD842C97643,S32H54DQJT9753CA2,SK87HKT9732D6CK85,ST954HQJ86DAKCQJT|sv|n|nt|ahollan1: most of EW signals will be reverse: count, attitude, suit pref and smith|pg|| nt|kareno: 6@h would normally make on the nice Moysian.|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dK|nt|ahollan1: standard signal when opening lead shows AK|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|h2|pg|| nt|ahollan1: that is the only exception i'm fairly confident about|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|sT|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|c3|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|c4|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|cT|pc|c7|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|s3|pg|| nt|ahollan1: nice 5 card cribbage hand|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o6|st||md|4SAJ763HKDT9763CJ4,S95HAJ953D5CA9763,ST8HT74DAKJ82CK82,SKQ42HQ862DQ4CQT5|sv|e|nt|RDS Reno: Not likely, tho ... with the right controls in E, 3NT might have made|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pg|| qx|c6|st||md|4SAJ763HKDT9763CJ4,S95HAJ953D5CA9763,ST8HT74DAKJ82CK82,SKQ42HQ862DQ4CQT5|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|nt|ahollan1: 1@D = 11-15, 2+@D but vul they tend to like decent 12 when bal|pg|| mb|p|mb|2C!|an|3 or 4 !hs, reverse Drury|nt|ahollan1: 2@C = drury 3+fit|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D!|an|sound opening|nt|kareno: That east hand is the strongest pass I've seen from this pair yet|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i wouldn't describe a hcp range - would just say just below opening bid|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@D = nothing about @D just some game interest|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3H|nt|ahollan1: KnR says east worth a whopping 8.70|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: I think the notes said that 2@s is undiscussed but intended as natural|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: not sure about 2@S would guess natural-ish i.e. length or values|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|d5|pg|| nt|kareno: I'm hearing all sorts of point count variations. Wonder if Rodwell made a try in clubs what would have happened. That 500 game bonus vulnerable is big!|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: ESPECIALLY Qx? (ccomputer wanted all caps)|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg|| pc|dT|pc|h3|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|ahollan1: jan and i were discussing the KnR evaluation|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|hK|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i'm wondering if north would bid 2@D over 3rd seat limited 1@H|pg|| nt|ahollan1: but other room north is nickell|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Meck: "I don't know if that (@hK) is good or bad - I suppose it could be worse"|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h7|pc|h6|pc|d9|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|s3|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|cK|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|s7|pc|s9|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| nt|ahollan1: auction does bring up exellent topic of discussion for partnerships|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o7|st||md|1SKQJ4HKJ7DAJCQ985,S8765H853DK2CA732,S2HAQT9DQT987CKJ4,SAT93H642D6543CT6|sv|b|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s8|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|h4|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|h6|pc|h7|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cT|pc|c5|pc|cA|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|d4|pc|dA|pg|| nt|RDS Reno: If EW don't take their @S ace noe, they won't get it|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c7|st||md|1SKQJ4HKJ7DAJCQ985,S8765H853DK2CA732,S2HAQT9DQT987CKJ4,SAT93H642D6543CT6|sv|b|nt|ahollan1: if opener hedges over drury what do responder's follow-ups show?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: nat, values, shortness all make sense if agreed upon|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Rod: "Did you have 5 @ss, Linda?" "um-hmm"|pg|| mb|1C!|an|can be 2 only if 4432|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N!|an|15-17|nt|ahollan1: 1@C = 2+|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: ah but as Jan notes: 2@C only if 4=4=3=2|pg|| mb|3N|nt|ahollan1: 1N rebid = 15-17|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s8|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c9|pc|cA|nt|ahollan1: NS card does say frequently bypass @D|pg|| pc|c4|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|cT|pc|c5|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d3|nt|kareno: Anyone for a cup of tea (_)? and a cookie OOO while we watch this easy hand?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i'm just not sure if cutoff is only bid @D first if FG|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dK|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o8|st||md|2S762HT975DKT754C7,SKQJ4HQ32D32CAT82,ST5HK64DAJ8CQ9654,SA983HAJ8DQ96CKJ3|sv|o|mb|1D!|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dT|pc|h2|pc|d8|pc|d9|pg|| pc|d7|pc|h3|pc|s5|pc|h8|pg|| pc|d4|pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|s3|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hQ|mc|8|pg|| qx|c8|st||md|2S762HT975DKT754C7,SKQJ4HQ32D32CAT82,ST5HK64DAJ8CQ9654,SA983HAJ8DQ96CKJ3|sv|o|mb|1D!|an|1+ (usually 2+)|nt|ahollan1: i think typical walsh agreement was bypass @D if hand only worth 1 bid|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@D = (10)11-15, 2+!|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|nt|kareno: Any time it was less than a game force I think.|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|nt|ahollan1: 1@S = not 4+@H unless FG|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c7|nt|ahollan1: i think 2@S = 4-fit|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Meck: "thank you, like your trumps there" Rod: "if it was right to pass 3N, I'm sorry"|pg|| pc|c8|nt|ahollan1: not sure if sometimes allowed with 31(54)|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sT|pc|s8|pc|s6|pg|| nt|kareno: I haven't seen that one yet.|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|c6|pc|s9|pc|s7|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| nt|ahollan1: sorry old note from bigtrain can be 3@S if 3451 min|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o9|st||md|3SKJ9762HKT3D542CA,SA83HAJ74DQT973CJ,SQ5HQ52DA86CKQ863,ST4H986DKJCT97542|sv|e|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|2S!|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: 2@S = nat, INV|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|dT|nt|RDS Reno: On 8, note that even with a weak hand, the least of 4th best from S's long suit worked out well. W's @D bid was artificial, so it didn't alter S's decision.|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|d4|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s4|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d8|pc|sT|pc|d2|pg|| pc|c7|pc|h3|pc|s3|pc|c6|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|hT|pg|| pc|hJ|mc|8|pg|| qx|c9|st||md|3SKJ9762HKT3D542CA,SA83HAJ74DQT973CJ,SQ5HQ52DA86CKQ863,ST4H986DKJCT97542|sv|e|nt|kareno: Boy I miss Walter|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i claim partial credit for remembering there was an exception to raise = 4|pg|| mb|1N|an|12-14|nt|kareno: 5|pg|| mb|p|mb|4H!|an|!ss|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 5 [2@HN+1] other room 1N-3N|pg|| nt|ahollan1: so 3N EAST|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d2|nt|kareno: What a lead! - well a small inference is that west didn't double 4@h|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dA|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s4|pg|| nt|ahollan1: that lead just wasn't fair|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d6|pc|dJ|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d8|pc|cT|pc|d5|pg|| nt|ahollan1: board 5 other room 3N down 4 on @C lead|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|h3|pg|| mc|9|nt|ahollan1: then open room auction on 6 was P-P-P-P no alerts|pg|| pg|| qx|o10|st||md|4SAQ3H63DKQJCAKJ93,SJ984H74DT8742C62,SKT7HKQ92DA963C87,S652HAJT85D5CQT54|sv|b|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|RDS Reno: NS may get to 6NT here, which CAN make if S deep-finesses in clubs, but most likely will not.|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|mb|6N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d8|pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|dK|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d7|pc|d6|nt|RDS Reno: The passive @D lead gave nothing away.|pg|| pc|h8|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|c5|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|h5|pg|| nt|RDS Reno: Nice duck by E ... now no @H @C squeeze.|pg|| nt|RDS Reno: ... and S can't even be sure who has the @H ace ... might return to hans and lead another.|pg|| nt|RDS Reno: If S cashes 3S and 2D, E will keep his @H ace and @C Q 10 x|pg|| pc|d9|pc|s2|pc|dJ|pc|d2|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s7|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s8|pc|sT|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|hT|pg|| pc|dA|pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|dT|pg|| nt|RDS Reno: Oh, my...|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|c6|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c10|st||md|4SAQ3H63DKQJCAKJ93,SJ984H74DT8742C62,SKT7HKQ92DA963C87,S652HAJT85D5CQT54|sv|b|nt|ahollan1: for NS 2N = good 19-21|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Meck: "it was my only face card ... it was my only doubleton too" Paul: "you didn't have a doubleton spade?" Meck:"a trump lead wasn't attractive"|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: did Linda open 1@C in lieu of 2N because of @Hxx??|pg|| nt|ahollan1: if so, very Goren|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: :)|pg|| mb|4C!|an|!c KCB|nt|ahollan1: in my book if too good for opening 2N then you open 2@C well actually my book says open precision 1@C|pg|| mb|p|nt|kareno: Sorry I've been on the phone with the thermostat people.|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 4@C = gerber??|pg|| mb|4D|mb|p|mb|6C|nt|kareno: I don't own that book Al :)|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: I think that Paul interpreted 3N as showing long, solid clubs and I know that he meant 4@c as Ketcard in clubs|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d2|nt|ahollan1: ahhh RKC in @C i couldn't figure out steps if gerwood|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|dK|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|sK|nt|kareno: I would always think 3nt (standard treatment isn't it) is solid clubs with weak hearts. Normal error for him to assume that.|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c5|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c8|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cK|pc|d4|nt|ahollan1: historically didn't jump to 3N also say singleton in responder's suit?|pg|| pc|h2|pc|cT|pg|| mc|11|nt|kareno: No, just weakness|pg|| pg|| qx|o11|st||md|1SQJHA6DAK7643CAK6,ST98754H7DQJT85CT,S632HK852D92CJ754,SAKHQJT943DCQ9832|sv|o|mb|2C|mb|2S|mb|d!|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h7|nt|pdlit: this should bring some needed imps to Lewis|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|hA|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|sK|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h6|pc|cT|pc|hK|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|sQ|pc|s5|pg|| pc|hT|pc|d7|nt|RDS Reno: 3@S would prolly have gone -3, losing 1H 1C and 3D. So mEW will get a + score here, although it could have been much more if doubled.|pg|| nt|RDS Reno: Oops ... 3@S -1, not -3|pg|| nt|ahollan2: closed room has finished play|pg|| pc|s7|pc|h5|pg|| nt|ahollan2: curious hand with that south holding the only way to go plus is to defend|pg|| mc|6|nt|pdlit: EW must know it is not going well and passing is safer than doubling|pg|| pg|| qx|c11|st||md|1SQJHA6DAK7643CAK6,ST98754H7DQJT85CT,S632HK852D92CJ754,SAKHQJT943DCQ9832|sv|o|nt|kareno: To the best of my knowledge and practice over 50 plus years.|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D!|an|0-1 control|nt|ahollan1: 2@D = 0/1 controls|pg|| nt|ahollan1: control A=2 K=1|pg|| nt|ahollan1: unless treating as bal - i wouldn't open south 2@C|pg|| nt|kareno: I'd prefer 2nt... shrug|pg|| mb|4H|nt|ahollan1: to me if opening 2@C to show @D suit that is GAME FORCE|pg|| nt|ahollan1: and south hand just not good enough|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|nt|ahollan1: but vs meckwell you don't know who's game :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|kareno: I agree, Al.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|h3|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|cT|pc|c4|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h7|pc|h2|pc|h9|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|s4|pc|h5|pg|| nt|ahollan1: voice commentary [did we ever mention our table has that?] point out that 4@H is phantom save against all NS contracts|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: fingering the club A - guess that's okay as long as she doesn't play another one?|pg|| pc|cA|pc|s5|pc|c5|nt|ahollan1: 9 [4@SN-1] nickell-katz 1@C-2@S [nat, INV] - PASS|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| pc|c6|pc|s7|pc|c7|pc|c8|pg|| pc|hT|pc|d3|mc|9|nt|Vugraphzfb: Meck: "well, it wasn't the dummy ..."|pg|| pg|| qx|o12|st||md|2SK6HQT9643DKCAJ73,SAQ543H8DA9862C92,SJT87HKJDT5CKQ865,S92HA752DQJ743CT4|sv|n|nt|RDS Reno: It's normal for any Meckwell table to finish 4/5/6 boards ahead of the other ... very fast to play and make early claims.|pg|| mb|1D!|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|p|nt|RDS Reno: Not sure what W was afraid of to not dbl 4@D on 11 ... a partner pull, I suppose.|pg|| mb|p|nt|RDS Reno: S can make 3@H ... but will he bid @H since E already did?|pg|| pc|d5|nt|ahollan2: is south worth 2@H [if natural] over 1@H?|pg|| nt|pdlit: knowing ones rho has a "biddable" @h suit, very difficult to compete there|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|h6|pg|| nt|pelu: YES 12. time or 2. ;|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|s8|pg|| nt|pdlit: state of the match must have an effect|pg|| nt|pelu: 1. time or 2.|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s9|pc|sK|pg|| nt|RDS Reno: IMO E shd have raised W's @D ... with 5 and an o/s ace, it's too good to pass 2@D|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c12|st||md|2SK6HQT9643DKCAJ73,SAQ543H8DA9862C92,SJT87HKJDT5CKQ865,S92HA752DQJ743CT4|sv|n|nt|ahollan1: when in doubt -- blame dummy or the wind|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N!|an|semi-forcing|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@S = 10-15 // 1N = semi-force roland's 2nd favorite description|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|d|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 10 katz did open 2N i feel better now|pg|| nt|ahollan1: flip-flop pointed shape and 2@H seems right over 1N|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c9|pc|c5|pc|c4|nt|ahollan1: not worth immediate overcall but then worth 2 bids with no encouragement from partner |pg|| pc|cA|pg|| nt|ahollan1: that parlay doesn't make sense to me|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|s3|pc|hJ|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hT|pc|s5|pc|s7|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h9|nt|kareno: Linda Lewis sometimes sings to her own tune - she can be quite creative.|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 10 [6@CS-1] katz in 6N on lead of @Dx|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s8|pc|h7|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c2|mc|10|nt|Vugraphzfb: Rod: "what were your spades, Jeff?" Meck: "doubleton" Paul: "I should bid 4"|pg|| pg|| qx|o13|st||md|3SQT8652H84D3CA973,SA97HA6DQT754CK42,SJ43HKQJT75DK86C6,SKH932DAJ92CQJT85|sv|b|nt|RDS Reno: Double swing there for a nice +8 pickup.|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|nt|pdlit: this could be another gain for Lewis|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|h6|pg|| nt|pdlit: W will be hoping/praying N did not open on a 5 card suit|pg|| nt|RDS Reno: One H duck, and this should make ... losing only 1H and 1C|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|s7|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c3|nt|pdlit: is that real operator|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c6|pg|| nt|RDS Reno: Both the @D K and the @C A are right where declarer needs them.|pg|| nt|Authau: undo ?|pg|| pc|c5|nt|RDS Reno: That @S switch at T2 pretty much announced, "I don't have an entry."|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cK|pc|hT|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c13|st||md|3SQT8652H84D3CA973,SA97HA6DQT754CK42,SJ43HKQJT75DK86C6,SKH932DAJ92CQJT85|sv|b|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|3C!|an|values|nt|ahollan1: 2@H = 5-10|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: seems lebensohl still applies even after balancing DBL|pg|| nt|ahollan1: that is NOT something you should take for granted with partner|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: both said so :)|pg|| pc|h8|nt|kareno: I always ask a new partner, 'when is it Lebensohl?' |pg|| pc|hA|nt|ahollan1: there are some who think 2N is nat when DBL = balancing|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h3|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|kareno: Always ask :)|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|c6|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i think woolsey defines 2N = lebensohl if game still possible which would apply in our auction|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c7|pc|cK|pc|hK|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|h2|pc|s5|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|h7|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|hT|pc|h9|pg|| pc|hQ|mc|10|pg|| qx|o14|st||md|4SAQJ8HKDJ83CT8654,ST7654HAJ432DA9C3,SKHQT7DKT742CAJ97,S932H9865DQ65CKQ2|sv|o|nt|pdlit: 26 imps on the last 3 boards, reducing a 42 imp lead to 16|pg|| mb|p|nt|RDS Reno: The reason why the other table finished so much earlier is that Rodwell would have claimed 11 tricks about 3 milliseconds after seeing the @D King.|pg|| mb|1C|mb|2C|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|pdlit: Dunitz came to bid:)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|h9|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h7|pg|| nt|RDS Reno: The good news here is that NS have 2 @H stoppers ... the bad news is that @C and @D are both wrong.|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hT|pc|h5|pc|d3|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|c6|pc|s7|pg|| nt|pdlit: a spec points out i should have included S's opening bid|pg|| pc|h8|pc|d8|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|jrssd: cruel game - with Clubs 2-2, another pickup for Lewis|pg|| nt|ahollan2: i bet my portfolio that nickell would not open south hand|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|s4|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cK|nt|pdlit: in the "came to bid"; Roth-Stone would be rolling in their graves|pg|| nt|ahollan2: including 3 cases of coke classic|pg|| pc|c5|pc|s5|pg|| pc|h6|pc|sJ|pc|hJ|pc|d2|pg|| pc|h4|pc|d4|pc|s3|pc|c8|pg|| mc|7|nt|RDS Reno: W can tru a low @D here for -3 ... but only -1 if S guesses|pg|| nt|ahollan2: yesterday same lineup played both afternoon sets for nickell then evening brought in hamman-bramley in place of nickell-katz|pg|| pg|| qx|c14|st||md|4SAQJ8HKDJ83CT8654,ST7654HAJ432DA9C3,SKHQT7DKT742CAJ97,S932H9865DQ65CKQ2|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kareno: I just always want agreement. Don't care but need to know. |pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 4th kingleton of the set|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kareno: So the Rabbi's rule is on|pg|| mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3C|nt|ahollan1: oh 2 on this hand so 5 kingletions this set|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d2|nt|ahollan1: katz in end position where he might make overtrick in 6N|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Rod: "3rd and 5th, is that right?" yes|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|ahollan1: nope just 6N= on 10|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d9|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h7|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cA|nt|ahollan1: i don't understand top players using 3rd/5th rather than 3rd/low|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cT|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s4|pc|d7|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s6|pc|d4|pc|s9|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sT|pc|hT|mc|7|nt|ahollan1: 11 katz also opened 2@C dunitz entered the auction with WEST hand|pg|| pg|| qx|o15|st||md|1SAKJ42HT97D97C843,S97HA3DKJ53CQJT92,ST5HKQJ542DA64C65,SQ863H86DQT82CAK7|sv|n|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: i did not notice rotation for team lewis|pg|| mb|1D!|mb|1H|mb|d!|nt|pdlit: the Lewis's played 1 and 3 yesterday i believe|pg|| mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|d|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|pdlit: this is the last hand of this set|pg|| mb|p|pc|h8|pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|c7|pc|c3|pg|| nt|pdlit: EW better get their clubs now|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|dT|pc|d7|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|nt|RDS Reno: N can make 3@H but not 4, so a 4@D bid by EW would have improved -140 to -50 or -100.|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c9|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d8|pc|h9|mc|9|nt|RDS Reno: Short break after this hand ... start Set 2 in about 10 minutes.|pg|| nt|Authau: thx:)|pg|| pg|| qx|c15|st||md|1SAKJ42HT97D97C843,S97HA3DKJ53CQJT92,ST5HKQJ542DA64C65,SQ863H86DQT82CAK7|sv|n|nt|Vugraphzfb: Last board of the set here. We'll resume shortly after the other table finishes|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 3rd 5th leads 5th from 5 or 6 card 3rd/low leads 3rd from 6|pg|| nt|ahollan1: so 3rd from even or low from odd|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D!|an|1+ (usually 2+)|mb|1H|mb|d!|an|almost always 4 !ss|nt|ahollan1: 1@D= (10)11-15, 2+@D|pg|| nt|ahollan1: DBL = exactly 4@S|pg|| mb|2H|mb|2N!|an|both minors|nt|ahollan1: oh right 1@D can have singleton @D honor then hand treated as BAL|pg|| mb|3H|mb|4D|nt|ahollan1: not sure if 2N says @D and longer @C or just @D & @C|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: with 3@C maybe saying not real @C |pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: I think Meck wrote both minors but less than 10 cards in the 2 suits, not sure|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|nt|ahollan1: so 2N did validate @D length|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hT|pc|hA|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|d9|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h8|pc|h7|pc|h3|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|s5|pc|s3|pg|| mc|9|nt|ahollan1: since meck DBL = 4@S i wonder what rodwell DBL would mean over 2@H [support dbl doesn't make sense, does it?]|pg|| nt|ahollan1: other table on 11|pg|| nt|ahollan1: restart 10-15 min after open room finishes|pg|| nt|ahollan1: thanks Jan|pg|| nt|kareno: So a break now? Thanks to Al for wonderful system knowledge and to Jan who is the best Op|pg|| pg||