vg|BBO2-2016ECC Zagreb,RR7_11,I,1,10,ONSTEIN,0,MOSSOP,0| rs|3HN-3,4SW+1,3NE=,3NE+1,4HE=,3DW+3,5DS+1,4SW-1,3SE-1,1NN-1,4HE=,4HE=,3NS=,3NS+1,6DS-1,3NS-3,2SN+1,1NS+1,4HS=,5HSx-1| pn|NAB,P HACKETT,DRIJVER,PRICE,MOSSOP,DE WIJS,HYDES,MULLER|pg|| qx|o1|st||md|3SA86HK65432D96C94,SKQT943HQDAJ3CA87,S75HATDT752CKJ632,SJ2HJ987DKQ84CQT5|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|2S|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sJ|nt|vugrapho2: hello all|pg|| nt|vugrapho2: welcome to day 2, Round robin stage of Champions Cup 2016 from Zagreb|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sA|pg|| nt|vugrapho2: we have runaway leaders here Onstein team on NS|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|hA|nt|marlowepi: greetings all and wecome back to Champions Cup. Your commentator will be the outstanding British international David Gold,|pg|| pc|h7|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|s3|pg|| nt|vugrapho2: good morning Marshalllll and David :) nice to have you here|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|dT|nt|marlowepi: David perhaps you can explain how the english team is selected for this event, as it differs from country to country|pg|| pc|dQ|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h3|nt|vugrapho2: results are available at : http://www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/16Zagreb/microsite/Results.htm|pg|| pc|s4|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| nt|Dagold: Good morning everyone|pg|| mc|6|nt|Dagold: Paul Hacket was very conservative here. I cannot imagine selling out to 3@h. I would double on the way out|pg|| nt|vugrapho2: and the leaders will increase their lead because CR was in 4@S W|pg|| pg|| qx|c1|st||md|3SA86HK65432D96C94,SKQT943HQDAJ3CA87,S75HATDT752CKJ632,SJ2HJ987DKQ84CQT5|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h6|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|d9|pc|dA|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|hK|pc|sK|pc|hT|pc|h8|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o2|st||md|4SJT98HKDAQ842CJT3,S532HAQ52D53CK854,SQ76HJT9876D976C9,SAK4H43DKJTCAQ762|sv|n|nt|Dagold: The England team isnt selected. The winners of our Premier League represent England|pg|| nt|vugrapho2: if you wish to observe video from all matches on Channels 1-2-3: http://livebridge.net/youtube/|pg|| mb|1C|mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|Dagold: Team Mossop won last year with Colin Simpson playing instead of Paul Hackett but Colin cannot play due to serious illness|pg|| nt|bebechira: video from all 6 tables on Channels 1.2.3|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugrapho2: hi Traian, nice to see you too :)|pg|| nt|bebechira: lol...hi :)|pg|| nt|bebechira: hi David :)|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|Dagold: Good morning Traian|pg|| nt|Dagold: I like the lead.|pg|| nt|vugrapho2: I think David is familiar with our setting in Zagreb, probably winning a couple of events in this hotel :)|pg|| nt|bebechira: we have a great team of operators in Zagreb http://livebridge.net/bbo/wbf/2016ecc.php?dsp=opr|pg|| nt|Dagold: Most players dont like to give up a trick by under leading the diamond|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s7|pc|s4|pg|| nt|Dagold: and south has too much to hope partner will get in|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| nt|Dagold: and the lead will hold declarer to 9 tricks|pg|| nt|bebechira: they did a fantastic job Opatija 2014 and Opatija 2015 ...they are very lucky in Croatia to have such a talented group of BBO operators|pg|| nt|Dagold: for another imp to Ornstein|pg|| nt|vugrapho2: Good Matchpoints lead in any case :)|pg|| nt|Dagold: Crotia has been hosting so many events. Im really impressed|pg|| nt|Dagold: They just hosted the small federations in Dubrovnik|pg|| nt|vugrapho2: record number of participants, 17|pg|| nt|Dagold: Price does not know the heart king is onside|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hK|nt|vugrapho2: now he does :)|pg|| pc|hA|nt|Dagold: he does now|pg|| pc|h6|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c9|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cT|pc|cK|nt|Dagold: however had that lost he would have been likely dead. I might have played the ten of diamonds|pg|| pc|hJ|pg|| nt|Dagold: if north wins im safe for the loss of two diaonds and a spade|pg|| pc|c8|pc|hT|pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|c7|pc|d2|pc|c4|nt|Dagold: if south wins I am almost home barring a heart switch and unlucky layout.|pg|| pc|s6|pg|| pc|c2|pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|d7|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s9|pc|s5|pc|d6|pg|| pc|h3|pc|d8|pc|hQ|pc|h7|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| pc|sT|pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|Dagold: 1 imp to Onstein|pg|| pg|| qx|c2|st||md|4SJT98HKDAQ842CJT3,S532HAQ52D53CK854,SQ76HJT9876D976C9,SAK4H43DKJTCAQ762|sv|n|mb|1C|an|strong|mb|p|mb|2D!|an|9-11 bal|nt|ahollan1: 1@C = 15+|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|nt|ahollan1: 2@D = 4333/4432/5m(332), FG a) 9-11 HCP, 1+ controls b) 12+ HCP, exactly 1 control |pg|| mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2N = NAT // 3@D = 4@H|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|sK|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|c9|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s3|nt|vugraphc2: Running scores: http://www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/16Zagreb/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=1314&qshowflag=1|pg|| nt|vugraphc2: Hydes in the tank, not sure which spade to play|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sA|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d6|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|s4|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h3|mc|10|pg|| qx|o3|st||md|1S76HA73DQ3CKQ9632,SAJT8HK6DAKJ954C7,SQ954HT9DT86CAT54,SK32HQJ8542D72CJ8|sv|e|mb|1C!|mb|1D|nt|Dagold: West has a big hand but 1 diamond feels right as oppose to double|pg|| nt|Dagold: there is likely to be more bidding|pg|| nt|vugrapho2: what if clubs were 4-0 and @H offside?|pg|| mb|1H!|mb|d|mb|2C|nt|Dagold: then 3-0 will always fail pretty much|pg|| nt|Dagold: EW can make 4@h here|pg|| nt|Dagold: and Ornstein in 3D|pg|| nt|Dagold: so this is a chance for Mossop|pg|| mb|3C!|nt|Dagold: Muller never bid on the east hand but it was harder for him as north bid 1S so he would have to enter at the 2-level|pg|| nt|Dagold: rather than the free double that Price was given here|pg|| nt|Dagold: Paul probably plans to force to game|pg|| mb|d!|mb|3H|mb|p|nt|Dagold: Bob showing some clubs in case of a 5@c save|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Dagold: 5@c is 500|pg|| nt|Dagold: but noone has anyshape|pg|| mb|p|nt|Dagold: good news for Mossop who will take the lead|pg|| pc|c6|nt|Dagold: as I cannot see a way for Price to fail|pg|| nt|Dagold: he is a very capable declarer|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|c8|pg|| nt|Dagold: Bob considering all sorts|pg|| nt|Dagold: a spade if partner has say KX|pg|| pc|s4|nt|Dagold: a clubto tap dummy|pg|| pc|s2|nt|Dagold: trump looks too passive|pg|| pc|s6|nt|Dagold: he wennt with the spade|pg|| pc|s8|pg|| nt|Dagold: that would be my choice too|pg|| nt|Dagold: Price conisdering what can go wrong|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d7|nt|Dagold: hearts likely to break as with ten clubs and hearts 4-1 opps might have bid 5@c|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| nt|Dagold: but he still must play with care|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dT|nt|Dagold: spades are 4-2 as one was not lead|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|h3|pg|| nt|Dagold: south can set up spade ruff. but he knows south has the heart ace entry after the trick one play|pg|| nt|Dagold: price trying to cater to hearts 4-1. was worried if he played sayheart king ducked and another heart that opps could take 2@h and 2@c|pg|| nt|Dagold: he can afford to lose 2@h and 1@c after all|pg|| nt|Dagold: Nab has no winning moves but he doesn't know that|pg|| pc|s7|nt|Dagold: although he suspects it|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s5|pc|s3|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|h2|pc|h7|pg|| nt|Dagold: now if north had heart ace there would be a ruff but north cannot hold it|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|cK|pc|d4|nt|Dagold: since he showed up with club ace and spade queen already|pg|| pc|c4|pc|h4|pg|| mc|10|nt|Dagold: good bidding and play|pg|| nt|Dagold: and Mossop takes the lead|pg|| pg|| qx|c3|st||md|1S76HA73DQ3CKQ9632,SAJT8HK6DAKJ954C7,SQ954HT9DT86CAT54,SK32HQJ8542D72CJ8|sv|e|mb|1C|mb|1D|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hT|pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|hK|pg|| nt|ahollan1: some play snapdragon dbl where 1@C-1@D-1@S-DBL shows the 4th suit [@H] with tolerance for partner's suit|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|ahollan1: whether Muller's hand is good enough for that is unclear|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i'm also unsure if tarzan plays that convention|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dT|pc|c8|pc|s6|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o4|st||md|2SK9HAQJ962DJ8654C,SQ8543HT874DK2CA8,ST6H3DAQ973CJ5432,SAJ72HK5DTCKQT976|sv|b|nt|Dagold: somethingfew teams have done v Ortstein in this event!|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1H|mb|1S|an|5+ !S|nt|Dagold: Ornstein 1 off in 4@s a normmal spot. I guesson pefect defence it can be beaten two tricks doubled with the club ruffs|pg|| nt|Dagold: Wonder if north south can acheive that coup|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|nt|Dagold: appologies to those who noticed. It is team Onstein.|pg|| nt|Dagold: maybe not|pg|| nt|vugrapho2: sorry wrong player having a think|pg|| mb|5D|nt|Dagold: My spelling is poor and typing skills worse|pg|| nt|Dagold: but I will try and give some good comments for you all|pg|| nt|vugrapho2: lol :) I think it's still better than mine :)|pg|| nt|Dagold: Paul having a think|pg|| mb|p|nt|Dagold: 5@d is making acctually isnt it|pg|| nt|Dagold: so this will be some kind of swing to... ONSTEIN|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|Dagold: did I spell it right?|pg|| nt|vugrapho2: haha I believe you did this time David :)|pg|| nt|Dagold: EW did well not to double it at least but they will lose a pile|pg|| nt|Dagold: Brave bid fro NAB|pg|| nt|vugrapho2: Nab is laughing with such dummy trumps :)|pg|| nt|vugrapho2: He said "I thought I was going to be doubled"|pg|| pc|cA|nt|Dagold: he figures no heart raise from partner and opps likely have 9 spades|pg|| nt|Dagold: so good chance partner will fit|pg|| nt|Dagold: the dummyis a dream but he had alot of ways to win by bidding|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|d5|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|dT|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| nt|Dagold: my experience of all dutch pairs is that they are very agressive, bid the backs off the cards and really are very tough to play against and tougher to beat|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|d3|pc|hK|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|d6|pc|c8|pg|| nt|Dagold: Mossop's lead was short lived but there is still time|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h8|pc|s6|pc|s2|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hT|pc|sT|pc|c7|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c4|st||md|2SK9HAQJ962DJ8654C,SQ8543HT874DK2CA8,ST6H3DAQ973CJ5432,SAJ72HK5DTCKQT976|sv|b|nt|ahollan1: do you think any EW will play 4@H?|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: on 3|pg|| mb|p|mb|2C|an| |nt|ahollan1: 2@C = 10-14(15), 6+@C|pg|| mb|2H|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: re 3 i should mention that in north america an immediate 2@H by muller would have been non-forcing|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h5|nt|ahollan1: even then it is unclear if EW can bid 4@H|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|d7|pc|hK|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pc|dT|pg|| nt|ahollan1: both red kings totally wasted on offense|pg|| nt|vugraphc2: so far only Helness - Helgemo managed to get in 4 @H|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c6|pc|s9|nt|vugraphc2: on board 3|pg|| pc|c8|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s6|pg|| mc|9|nt|ahollan1: madala also reaches 4@H on 3|pg|| pg|| qx|o5|st||md|3SA53H863DAQJ6CJ86,S92HAQJ9D743CAKQ2,SJ64HKT742DK9CT97,SKQT87H5DT852C543|sv|n|nt|Dagold: I thought I did well to get the stein part right in Onstein. In english we say I before E except after C with a very few exceptions But I randomly decided to insert an R after the O|pg|| nt|vugrapho2: well Dutch team won the latest big prize am I right? :)|pg|| nt|Dagold: they did|pg|| nt|Dagold: we lost to them in the quaters|pg|| nt|Dagold: boy did they play well|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|an|inquiry|nt|Dagold: Brink Drijver were the best pair on show in the event by a mile|pg|| nt|Dagold: in my opinion|pg|| nt|Dagold: they played unreal|pg|| mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Dagold: I like 2@s|pg|| nt|Dagold: would want to open sommething with that|pg|| nt|Dagold: Muller passed with east|pg|| nt|Dagold: but y recollection is they open any 5-card weak twos in that position|pg|| nt|Dagold: did they change their syste?|pg|| pc|dA|nt|Dagold: many |pg|| nt|Dagold: not any|pg|| nt|Dagold: sorry|pg|| nt|Dagold: other roo|pg|| nt|vugrapho2: how do you like this lead?|pg|| nt|Dagold: south got to open 1D|pg|| nt|Dagold: west bid 1H and north bid 1n|pg|| nt|Dagold: I would pass with north but that is just my style|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d9|pc|d5|pg|| nt|Dagold: If this is a routine 2@s opener which it would be for me then west should pass. |pg|| pc|d6|pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|d8|pg|| nt|Dagold: but Paul and Price are not a longtime partnership|pg|| nt|Dagold: and probably are still feeling around for eachothers style|pg|| nt|Dagold: so. what is happening here|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d7|nt|Dagold: the defence look set to take another diamond and an over ruff|pg|| pc|h2|nt|Dagold: sensatiional and well reasoned lead|pg|| pc|d2|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|s9|pc|sJ|pc|dT|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|cA|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h7|pc|s8|pc|h6|pg|| mc|8|nt|Dagold: East is minimum so the diamond king is with partner or dummy. Either way a good lead. i might ave overlooked the diamond lea on general grounds but NAb was well ahead of me here|pg|| nt|Dagold: 4 more to Onstein|pg|| nt|Dagold: since 1N failed a trick in the other roo|pg|| nt|vugrapho2: I like the reasoning, and nice defense|pg|| pg|| qx|c5|st||md|3SA53H863DAQJ6CJ86,S92HAQJ9D743CAKQ2,SJ64HKT742DK9CT97,SKQT87H5DT852C543|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|1N|nt|ahollan1: and in our match price did DBL over 1@S and is playing 4@H on 3|pg|| mb|p|nt|vugraphc2: some well deserved imps for Mossop then|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@D = 3+|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|s4|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|c9|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|c4|pc|c8|pg|| nt|ahollan1: beating 3 to death i did finally find a note that says if muller had bid 2@H over 1@S it would have been NF|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cT|pc|c3|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|c2|nt|ahollan1: i haven't found any mention of what his DBL would have been|pg|| pc|h2|pc|s8|pc|h3|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|s7|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|d4|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d3|mc|6|nt|vugraphc2: "I will cash all my diamonds tricks and i am guessing a get a heart trick" :)|pg|| pg|| qx|o6|st||md|4SA8643H62DT93CAK2,SK2HAQ87DK742CJT3,ST95HJ95DJ85C7654,SQJ7HKT43DAQ6CQ98|sv|e|nt|Dagold: Yes|pg|| nt|Dagold: very|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C!|nt|Dagold: as the cards lay. This looks dull|pg|| nt|Dagold: in 4@h|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|nt|Dagold: EW have a club ruff to worry about but they break 4-3|pg|| mb|p|mb|4H|nt|Dagold: trumps also break|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugrapho2: get your tea or coffee ready then for next board ;)|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|c9|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cT|pc|c5|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|s7|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|c6|pc|c8|pg|| nt|Dagold: Im having some lemon tea for y sore throat|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h9|pc|h4|pc|h6|pg|| mc|10|nt|vugrapho2: I hope you're not doing voice commentary then :) get well asap|pg|| pg|| qx|c6|st||md|4SA8643H62DT93CAK2,SK2HAQ87DK742CJT3,ST95HJ95DJ85C7654,SQJ7HKT43DAQ6CQ98|sv|e|nt|vugraphc2: That was what Hydes said on claim|pg|| mb|1D|nt|ahollan1: 1@D = 11-15, 2+@D|pg|| mb|1S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|c8|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|s7|pg|| pc|cK|nt|ahollan1: boring hand from the great shuffler|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c5|pc|c9|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h9|pc|h4|pc|h6|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o7|st||md|1SAQHAQJ42DAJ9C643,S3HK8753D532CAQJT,SKJT52HDQ764CK752,S98764HT96DKT8C98|sv|b|nt|Dagold: http://www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/16Zagreb/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=1314&qshowflag=1|pg|| nt|Dagold: Hvala|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|Dagold: NS have interesting assets but in reeality maybe a dull 3N when the smoke clears|pg|| mb|2C!|an|something like gazzilli|mb|p|mb|2D!|an|positive|mb|p|nt|Dagold: 2@c maybe some form of Gazilli|pg|| nt|Dagold: eg natural and minimum or any 16+7but I dont know their syste|pg|| mb|2N|an|denies 3!S|mb|p|nt|Dagold: 2@d some kind of positive|pg|| nt|Dagold: 2N likely shows balanced above 1N opener|pg|| nt|Dagold: now Bob can show 5@s unless NAB already denied 3@s|pg|| nt|Dagold: we shall see|pg|| nt|vugrapho2: really nice and a must convention when playing 2/1 style at top levels I feel :)|pg|| mb|3N|nt|Dagold: appologies if I am entirely making up their syste|pg|| mb|p|nt|Dagold: yes|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|Dagold: looks like Nab mmay have denied 3@s with 2N|pg|| nt|Dagold: so Bob could just raise and keep more about his hand a mystery|pg|| nt|Dagold: club queen lead could be interesting|pg|| pc|cA|nt|Dagold: Queen then JACk|pg|| nt|Dagold: NAB might go wrong|pg|| nt|vugrapho2: if only mr. Hackett's finger was to the left :)|pg|| nt|Dagold: Paul catering to a singleton King which seems unlikely on the bidding|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|Dagold: North would have to be 5251 and bid this way|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c8|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cK|nt|Dagold: Paul generally a passive leader. I am mostly a fan off his lead style|pg|| pc|h9|pc|c6|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d8|nt|Dagold: he was hoping for 3@c, 1@h and a trick from partner|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d2|pg|| nt|Dagold: a decent shot|pg|| nt|Dagold: so Nabhas 4 spades (the 5-1 break means overtaking is only 4S tricks)|pg|| nt|Dagold: 1C|pg|| nt|Dagold: 2 diamonds and 1H|pg|| nt|Dagold: he can safely make 2H tricks|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|Dagold: but is considering the overtrick situation|pg|| pc|hK|pc|c7|pc|h6|pg|| pc|cT|pc|d6|pc|hT|pc|h2|pg|| nt|Dagold: nice try, to sneak the heart|pg|| nt|Dagold: an imp to mossop|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|dT|pc|dA|pg|| nt|Dagold: Thanks to Pauls lead|pg|| nt|Dagold: diamond was lead i the other room|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c7|st||md|1SAQHAQJ42DAJ9C643,S3HK8753D532CAQJT,SKJT52HDQ764CK752,S98764HT96DKT8C98|sv|b|nt|ahollan1: 4 [4@SW-1] Nab playing 5@D i hadn't even thought about that action|pg|| nt|vugraphc2: board 4 is a rather swingy one; what is other room playing=|pg|| nt|vugraphc2: :)|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: as cards lie i think NS can actually make 6@D shame on us for not thinking about it when we had the chance|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 5@D did make an overtrick on 4 4 boards scored 29 imps exchanged in 4 swings|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|dT|nt|ahollan1: in another interesting twist on 5 Price opened 2nd seat 2@S where Muller PASS|pg|| pc|dJ|pg|| nt|ahollan1: nab-drijver never in the auction so price in 3@S|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|s6|pg|| nt|ahollan1: he will need to limit trump losers to 1 to make 3@S [that was hand where 1N was down 1]|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|vugraphc2: so far nobody scored 140 on the board, Helness Helgemo even went down in 2 @S|pg|| pc|h7|pc|s5|pc|s4|pg|| nt|vugraphc2: but lets give price a chance :)|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h3|pc|c2|pc|hT|pg|| nt|ahollan1: nab-drijver bizarre defense on 5 takes first 5 tricks so Mossop down in both rooms|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|d8|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg|| nt|ahollan1: commentary in other room by David Gold |pg|| pc|s7|nt|ahollan1: 5 rounds of 10 boards today to complete the round robin|pg|| nt|ahollan1: then teams are divided into 3 brackets for KO|pg|| mc|10|nt|vugraphc2: De Wijs claimed +1 after the spade return|pg|| pg|| qx|o8|st||md|2SKQJ6HKJTDK983CK6,S832HAQ98762DJC73,ST75HDAQT54CQT954,SA94H543D762CAJ82|sv|o|nt|Dagold: Mossop tried 3N here |pg|| mb|3H|nt|Dagold: failing by 3 tricks|pg|| nt|Dagold: but normal sort of spot|pg|| mb|p|mb|4H|nt|Dagold: 5@d makes but hard to acheive|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|nt|Dagold: but they will achieve it now|pg|| nt|vugrapho2: managed to find for double :)|pg|| nt|Dagold: NAB did not have to double with KJT of @h but he did well|pg|| nt|vugrapho2: aceless hand|pg|| nt|Dagold: some danger of Bob doing too much|pg|| mb|4N!|mb|p|nt|Dagold: but I think after soe thought he will just settle for game|pg|| mb|5D|mb|p|nt|Dagold: too guessy to bid slam|pg|| nt|Dagold: and breaks aybe bad|pg|| nt|Dagold: *maybe|pg|| nt|Dagold: so this is another swing to Onstein, even if he bids 6 and gets doubled|pg|| nt|vugrapho2: tempting but guessy to bid on|pg|| mb|6D|nt|Dagold: he doesnt need so much for 6|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Dagold: Price knows the aces are standing. 100%|pg|| pc|hA|nt|Dagold: so I am surprised he passed.|pg|| pc|d4|pc|h5|pc|hT|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|vugrapho2: that almost was a disaster|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s2|pg|| nt|vugrapho2: price had A@S ready for the first round of trumps|pg|| pc|cA|nt|vugrapho2: good thing he noticed it in time :)|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c3|pc|c4|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c8|st||md|2SKQJ6HKJTDK983CK6,S832HAQ98762DJC73,ST75HDAQT54CQT954,SA94H543D762CAJ82|sv|o|mb|3H|nt|ahollan1: how many times would Mossop duck if de Wijs lead was @CQ then @CJ?|pg|| nt|vugraphc2: sry, he did open 3 :)|pg|| nt|ahollan1: :) |pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@H instead of 3@H?|pg|| nt|vugraphc2: he is as far as he can be, so its sometimes hard to see which bid is in the tray|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1st seat non-vul 2@H de Wijs more likely to have 5@H :)|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h2|pc|s5|pc|h3|nt|ahollan1: in 2017 i believe the USBC [usa team trial] will have bidding done on tablets |pg|| pc|hJ|pg|| nt|ahollan1: that will make life easier for the operator - but ONLY in the bidding|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dJ|pc|d4|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d9|pc|s8|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|s3|pg|| pc|dT|nt|ahollan1: accurate recording of play is magnitudes more difficult [and important] for operator|pg|| pc|h4|pc|d8|pc|s2|pg|| pc|d5|pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|h9|pg|| pc|s7|nt|ahollan1: the operators in this event have done a much better job of recording play than i do with my tired old eyes|pg|| nt|vugraphc2: not suprising at all, given the fact that 5 out of 6 is under 28 :)|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 7 paul hackett lead was @CA where i was wondering about lead of @CQ|pg|| nt|ahollan1: my beard is older than that|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|c3|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|c4|pg|| pc|hA|pc|c5|pc|s4|pc|hK|pg|| pc|h8|pc|c9|pc|s9|pc|cK|pg|| pc|h7|pc|sT|pc|c8|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|h6|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|sK|pg|| pg|| qx|o9|st||md|3SA82HAK7D864CQ652,SJTH9DT9752CKJ983,SK9653HQ52DQCAT74,SQ74HJT8643DAKJ3C|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N!|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugrapho2: these boys are not too shy to bid :)|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|h2|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s7|nt|dagold: sorry I crashed|pg|| nt|vugrapho2: welcome back :)|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|dagold: The reason that Price should double 6@d imo is two fold. Get a non-heart lead and take it two off if partnerhas a trick-say a club ruff|pg|| nt|dagold: it is impossible with only 3@s that the 2 aces are not standing|pg|| nt|dagold: after north bid 4N the club ace must be standing also|pg|| pc|h7|pc|c3|pc|hQ|pc|h4|pg|| pc|c4|pc|h6|nt|dagold: the only way 6@d might make is on a heart lead if there are discards|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg|| nt|dagold: it isnt about getting the extra 50|pg|| pc|d2|pc|s5|pc|d3|pc|d6|pg|| nt|dagold: EW have a nice diamond fit but noone has enought to bid the|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h8|pc|hK|nt|dagold: *them|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c9|st||md|3SA82HAK7D864CQ652,SJTH9DT9752CKJ983,SK9653HQ52DQCAT74,SQ74HJT8643DAKJ3C|sv|e|nt|ahollan1: at least mossop has good meld 4-Kings and @S marriage|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@H = 11-15, 5+@H maybe equal or LONGER @S|pg|| mb|p!|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: PASS can be up to 9 hcp|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: tarzan plays 1@H-1@S = RELAY, FG and 1@H-1N as 4+@S|pg|| pc|c3|nt|ahollan1: 2@D bid by Muller would have made for a more interesting auction|pg|| pc|c4|pc|h4|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|h3|pg|| pc|c7|pc|h6|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 8 [3NS-3] nab gets in the auction with 3@H-P-4@H-DBL now playing 6@D|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|d4|pg|| nt|ahollan1: that will still gain imps, but they had a chance to stop in 5@D|pg|| pc|d3|nt|ahollan1: David Gold mentioned surprise that price did not DBL with 2 known cashing aces vs 6@D|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d9|pc|s3|pg|| pc|d2|pc|s5|pc|dJ|pc|d8|pg|| pc|dA|pc|s2|pc|d7|pc|s6|pg|| nt|ahollan1: but that only cost 1 imp|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o10|st||md|4SKHAJT832DK3CA832,SQT3HK9DAT9765CJ7,S9862HQ75D4CKQ654,SAJ754H64DQJ82CT9|sv|b|nt|dagold: so|pg|| nt|dagold: 4H NS|pg|| nt|dagold: some sort of save EW in spades|pg|| nt|vugrapho2: there was a way to make that slam, wasn't sure if you caught my remark before crashing :)|pg|| nt|dagold: even amake if double dummy in spades|pg|| nt|dagold: sorry I didnt|pg|| nt|dagold: catch the remark|pg|| nt|vugrapho2: East almost halfway played A@S on first round of trumps! :)|pg|| nt|dagold: or how it would make!|pg|| nt|dagold: oh ouch|pg|| nt|vugrapho2: that would've been disaster, but apologized and took it back in time|pg|| mb|p|nt|dagold: ossop is in 5HX which is one off|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|d|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|dagold: so this is not a good board for squadra Mossopa|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|d3|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|sK|pg|| nt|dagold: essentially EW bid 4S with known double fit. and NS had shown their clubs and hearts and reasonably enough felt it was wrong to defend 4@s|pg|| nt|vugrapho2: thanks to all the kibitzers and fellow commentator David for keeping me company :)|pg|| pc|s5|pc|h2|nt|dagold: At the other table west bid 2D and east fit jumped to 3S |pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s6|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|h5|pc|d8|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|dagold: but Paul is from the old-school with 2 level overcalls|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|hK|pg|| nt|dagold: and likes to have a good opener and a 6-card suit|pg|| nt|dagold: twasa pleasure|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h7|pc|h6|pc|hA|pg|| nt|dagold: hope you all enjoyed it|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|dT|pc|c4|nt|dagold: not an error free set but lots of good bridge by both teams|pg|| pc|s4|pg|| pc|hT|pc|d6|pc|c5|nt|dagold: and Onstein maintains there dominant position|pg|| pc|dQ|pg|| pc|h8|pc|d7|pc|s8|pc|s7|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|cK|pc|c9|pg|| nt|dagold: they are over 1 match clear of second now|pg|| mc|10|nt|dagold: in the round robin stage|pg|| nt|vugrapho2: that was the last board of this round|pg|| nt|dagold: bye all|pg|| nt|vugrapho2: next one will begin in half an hour time, see you! :)|pg|| nt|vugrapho2: schedule and results: http://www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/16Zagreb/microsite/Results.htm|pg|| pg|| qx|c10|st||md|4SKHAJT832DK3CA832,SQT3HK9DAT9765CJ7,S9862HQ75D4CKQ654,SAJ754H64DQJ82CT9|sv|b|nt|ahollan1: final board of the match|pg|| nt|ahollan1: next round starts in 50 min|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|mb|2D|mb|2H|nt|ahollan1: onstein currently leading the pack by more than a full match 23 VP|pg|| mb|3S!|mb|4H|nt|ahollan1: fit-showing 3@S to show @S AND @D|pg|| mb|4S|mb|5C|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: on bridgewinners John Swanson has a thread where he talks about why he hates fit-showing bids|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i don't remember if it applied to this sequence|pg|| mb|5H|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s3|nt|ahollan1: when i first learned fit-showing jumps they were called "flower bids"|pg|| pc|s2|nt|ahollan1: never knew why it got that name|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sK|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|d4|pg|| nt|ahollan1: paul hackett did not overcall so nab gets to play 4@H|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c2|nt|ahollan1: it takes a long time to run through all permutations when nothing matters|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cK|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h9|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|cT|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h6|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pg|| nt|ahollan1: nice try by mossop|pg|| mc|10|nt|ahollan1: next round in 40 min|pg|| nt|ahollan1: thanks Ante|pg|| nt|vugraphc2: see you all soon, bye :)|pg|| pg||