vg|C 2016 Mixed USBC,Segment 3 of 4,I,1,15,Moss,57,Meltzer,74| rs|6DN=,6HS=,3NN+1,3NS+1,2CS-3,3NW-2,4HS=,4HS=,4HS-2,3DE+2,3NS+1,3NS+2,4HN=,4HN=,3HW=,4HW=,1NE-1,3CS-1,6SS=,4SS+2,2SS=,2SS-1,3NW-3,5CW-3,3HE-1,3HW=,4CE-2,3CW=,3NW+2,4SW+1| pn|Picus,J Stansby,Ornstein,L Stansby,Smith,B Moss,J Morse,Winestock|pg|| qx|o1|st||md|3SAHKQJT54DA7532C2,SJ83HA973DQ4CQ987,SQ7H62DKJT96CAK43,SKT96542H8D8CJT65|sv|o|mb|1D|mb|3S|mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5H|mb|p|mb|6D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d8|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d2|mc|12|pg|| qx|c1|st||md|3SAHKQJT54DA7532C2,SJ83HA973DQ4CQ987,SQ7H62DKJT96CAK43,SKT96542H8D8CJT65|sv|o|mb|1D|mb|3S|nt|fabsayc: welcome, everybody|pg|| nt|fabsayc: low or high, that is the question|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|5D|mb|p|mb|6H|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: wow|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: a mild surprise, was more expecting 6@D|pg|| nt|medwards: Six diamonds down on a ruff|pg|| nt|fabsayc: its a bit of a tossup which ruff danger is greater|pg|| nt|medwards: Yes he guessed right|pg|| nt|medwards: Did not get the ruff in OR|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c2|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|hJ|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h7|pc|h6|pc|s6|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|c3|pc|s2|pg|| nt|fabsayc: come on Brad|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c4|nt|medwards: He is probably worn down I believe he said so yesterday at the table|pg|| pc|cT|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h9|pc|s7|pc|s4|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|d8|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o2|st||md|4SK76HKJ8DKJ3CQ632,SJT532HA3D9CAK987,SAQ9H72DAQT872CJ4,S84HQT9654D654CT5|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1S|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h6|pc|hJ|pc|hA|nt|ahollan6: at halftime all teams seeded 1-4 were trailing|pg|| pc|h2|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|hT|pc|hK|pg|| nt|ahollan6: http://usbf.org/docs/vugraphs/MUSBC2016/Bracket.php?stage=Roundof8|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c2|st||md|4SK76HKJ8DKJ3CQ632,SJT532HA3D9CAK987,SAQ9H72DAQT872CJ4,S84HQT9654D654CT5|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1S|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: spade lead, probably declarer just takes his 9 tricks|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|cT|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cJ|pc|c5|nt|ahollan5: all partnerships submitted System Summary Form [SSF] and ACBL Convention Card - click on player name or go to www.usbf.org to access files|pg|| pc|c3|pg|| pc|c9|mc|10|pg|| qx|o3|st||md|1S95H862D9874CKQ83,SJ6HKQT4DAKT32C65,SQT42HAJ3DQ65CA97,SAK873H975DJCJT42|sv|e|nt|reisig: I love fast claims :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|an|2+ D|nt|ahollan6: 1@D = 10-15, 2+@D |pg|| mb|d|mb|1H!|an|4+ spades|nt|ahollan6: most if not all of the EW constructive bidding is same as lew stansby-bart bramley|pg|| nt|ahollan6: 1@H = 4+@S|pg|| nt|reisig: Come on ...bid 2@c!|pg|| mb|2C|nt|ahollan6: RDBL would show 4+@H|pg|| mb|p|an|0-2 spades|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|d4|pg|| nt|ahollan6: all partnerships submitted System Summary Form [SSF] and ACBL Convention Card - click on player name or go to www.usbf.org to access files|pg|| nt|reisig: Just the dummy I wished for :)|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|s6|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s3|pc|h2|pc|c5|pc|s4|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|h6|pg|| nt|ahollan6: JoAnna PASS = 0-2@S|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|d2|pc|c9|pc|c4|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|h7|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|cT|pc|d8|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h8|pc|hQ|pc|h3|pg|| pc|dT|pc|cA|pc|s7|pc|d9|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s8|pc|c3|pc|h4|pg|| pc|c8|pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|cJ|pg|| pg|| qx|c3|st||md|1S95H862D9874CKQ83,SJ6HKQT4DAKT32C65,SQT42HAJ3DQ65CA97,SAK873H975DJCJT42|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1N|an|14-16|mb|p|mb|2H|an|transfer|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|an|alerted|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: this 1NT is understandable, almost standard|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c7|nt|medwards: Great lead|pg|| nt|fabsayc: any idea what 2nt was?|pg|| nt|medwards: No|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c9|nt|fabsayc: nitpicking, but club 9 was the great lead|pg|| nt|medwards: Block suit?|pg|| nt|fabsayc: starting the unblock|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|d3|pg|| pc|c8|pc|d2|pc|h3|pc|c4|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h6|pc|hT|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s6|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| nt|fabsayc: full marks for this defense|pg|| pc|hK|pc|s2|pc|h9|pc|h8|pg|| pc|hQ|mc|7|pg|| qx|o4|st||md|2SK82HAQJ65DKJ7C75,SAT96H874D854CA86,S753HKT93DA963CKQ,SQJ4H2DQT2CJT9432|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|reisig: Right sided|pg|| pc|h7|nt|ahollan6: better than being wrong minded|pg|| nt|reisig: May have to guess @d later|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|c4|pg|| nt|ahollan6: do you play to @DJ now or @C first?|pg|| pc|hT|pc|c3|pc|hA|pc|h8|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pg|| nt|ahollan6: i thought save @H but that does remove exit card from west hand|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pg|| nt|ahollan6: eliminate @C and exit @S - right Richie?|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c8|pc|cK|pc|c9|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|s8|pc|s9|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|sQ|pc|s2|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c4|st||md|2SK82HAQJ65DKJ7C75,SAT96H874D854CA86,S753HKT93DA963CKQ,SQJ4H2DQT2CJT9432|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|hA|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h8|pc|h9|pc|c2|pg|| pc|hT|pc|c4|pc|h6|pc|h7|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|d4|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d6|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d8|pc|dA|pc|dT|pg|| pc|d9|pc|c3|pc|s2|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o5|st||md|3S853HAQ943D83CK74,ST62HK52DAKJ6C863,SAQ4HJT86DTCQJ952,SKJ97H7DQ97542CAT|sv|n|nt|reisig: Yes :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D!|an|2+ D|nt|ahollan6: 1@D = 10-15, 2+@D|pg|| mb|1H|mb|1S!|an|0-3 S|nt|ahollan6: 1@S = 0-3@S|pg|| nt|ahollan6: i thought JoAnna would be 1N rather than "takeout dbl" of 1@S|pg|| nt|ahollan6: either way Lew will rebid @D|pg|| nt|reisig: Not over 4@h|pg|| nt|ahollan6: should have said but better for east to bid NT if he can|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dK|nt|reisig: Pass = I've seen you defend before :)|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d9|pc|d3|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s8|pc|sT|pc|sA|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h7|pc|h4|pc|hK|pg|| nt|ahollan6: seems that after @D lead declarer had chance for down 1 |pg|| pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|s5|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|c2|pg|| nt|ahollan6: i think @S lead needed to guarantee down 2 but not sure|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cK|mc|8|pg|| qx|c5|st||md|3S853HAQ943D83CK74,ST62HK52DAKJ6C863,SAQ4HJT86DTCQJ952,SKJ97H7DQ97542CAT|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1D!|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: more nt?|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s6|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|dT|pg|| pc|d6|pc|s4|pc|dQ|pc|d8|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h6|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o6|st||md|4SAK9HQ7DAKQJCQT82,SJ7HAT432DT954CK9,SQT53HKJ95D76CJ74,S8642H86D832CA653|sv|e|nt|ahollan6: seems like unlucky result neither NS did anything outrageous|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3C|an|stayman|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|reisig: Maybe -- not the most important hand of the set|pg|| pc|h3|nt|ahollan6: sorry 3@C = Puppet Stayman|pg|| nt|ahollan6: 3N = i was looking for 5-3 major|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|h7|pg|| nt|reisig: even 4-4 would be OK :)|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|h8|pg|| nt|ahollan6: ok JoAnna asked and response was Regular Stayman but NS CC says Puppet|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg|| nt|reisig: Then 3@d was wrong :)|pg|| nt|ahollan6: looking at north hand i wouldn't have mentioned 3N bid - i was just looking at auction :(|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d6|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c3|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hJ|nt|ahollan6: nice cash|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c6|st||md|4SAK9HQ7DAKQJCQT82,SJ7HAT432DT954CK9,SQT53HKJ95D76CJ74,S8642H86D832CA653|sv|e|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|h8|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c3|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c9|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|d5|pc|d7|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d9|pc|h9|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dT|pc|hJ|pc|h6|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|h4|pc|c7|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cT|pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|c6|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o7|st||md|1S2HT86542DAKCQT97,SQJ876HJ97DJ432C8,SA95HKQDQ87CAJ653,SKT43HA3DT965CK42|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|reisig: Likely 4@h here|pg|| mb|2D!|nt|ahollan6: NS 1N = 15-17 throughout EW 1/2/3nv 14-16 3v/4 15-17|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|ahollan6: Smith chose Texas Transfer of 4@D|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|reisig: 6-4 ..I'd just choose game|pg|| mb|p|pc|d5|nt|reisig: The good part is --- I don't have to play it!|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|d8|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|c8|pc|c6|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg|| nt|reisig: NEXT!|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg|| pc|cT|mc|10|pg|| qx|c7|st||md|1S2HT86542DAKCQT97,SQJ876HJ97DJ432C8,SA95HKQDQ87CAJ653,SKT43HA3DT965CK42|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|4D|an|transfer|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|d7|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d8|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d6|pc|c7|pc|d3|pg|| pc|sA|nt|fabsayc: could declare a line of play to save time|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|h5|pc|s7|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c8|pc|c3|pc|cK|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o8|st||md|2SAJ8653HK5DKQJCQ4,S94HAQ43DA3CA9652,SQTH98DT9642CJT87,SK72HJT762D875CK3|sv|o|nt|ahollan6: copyright Joey Silver 2005-2016|pg|| nt|reisig: :)|pg|| mb|1N|an|14-16|nt|reisig: Thinking of rebids -- if 1@c|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D|an|transfer|nt|ahollan6: 1N = 14-16|pg|| mb|2S|mb|2N!|mb|p|mb|3D!|an|re T|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|reisig: 4@h is more .."creative"|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan6: without 2@S i wasn't sure if super-accept would be 2N or 3@H|pg|| nt|ahollan6: 3@D = retransfer|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s7|pc|sJ|pc|s9|pg|| pc|sA|nt|reisig: I'd throw @d|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|d2|pc|sK|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|dK|pg|| nt|ahollan6: bramley-stansby say 1N-2@D-3@H is an optional super-accept, so i think that means 4-fit, min and 2N is the only other option besides 2@H|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|d7|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|h3|pc|d9|pc|d8|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|h2|nt|ahollan6: jumping to 4@H over simple transfer is pure Brad Moss gamble|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|hK|pg|| nt|ahollan6: his 1N was also 14-16|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c8|st||md|2SAJ8653HK5DKQJCQ4,S94HAQ43DA3CA9652,SQTH98DT9642CJT87,SK72HJT762D875CK3|sv|o|mb|1N|an|14-16|mb|p|mb|2D|an|alerted|mb|2S|nt|medwards: getting the wrong hand on lead|pg|| nt|fabsayc: when will brad open 1nt with a singleton q,k, or ace, as per new acbl regulations|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|nt|medwards: WE have seen it happen today in other matches|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|sQ|nt|fabsayc: right, it is now permitted, not required, and alert is only for range|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s9|pc|sT|pc|s2|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d5|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c7|pc|cK|pc|c4|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|h8|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|h6|pc|hK|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c3|pc|cQ|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o9|st||md|3S962H754DJ7CAKJ87,SKQ43HAQJ2D93CT62,SJT87HK96DAK62C43,SA5HT83DQT854CQ95|sv|e|nt|reisig: The goal was ...make 3...and done!|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|reisig: Weak 2 in @cs :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D!|an|0-2|nt|ahollan6: i would never be able to pass north hand in 1st seat|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N!|nt|ahollan6: 1@D = 11-15, 2+@D|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|reisig: @c K and @h shift|pg|| nt|ahollan6: unpassed hand 1N could be 11-bad 12 not sure why alert here|pg|| nt|ahollan6: note: i would not have been shocked if Lew responded 1@H|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c2|nt|reisig: See? I'm always right!|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c9|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cT|pc|d6|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|s3|pc|d2|pc|d5|pg|| pc|c7|pc|d3|pc|h6|pc|s5|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d9|pc|dK|pc|d4|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|d7|pc|h2|pg|| mc|6|pg|| qx|c9|st||md|3S962H754DJ7CAKJ87,SKQ43HAQJ2D93CT62,SJT87HK96DAK62C43,SA5HT83DQT854CQ95|sv|e|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|d|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d9|nt|fabsayc: i don't agree with 3@C bid in the modern open anything style|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dT|pc|d7|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|cJ|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|c9|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cT|pc|d2|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|s7|pc|s5|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s3|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o10|st||md|4SK8652HK9DJ8CQJ73,SHQT7652DQT732CT6,SAQT943HA3DAK6CA5,SJ7HJ84D954CK9842|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan6: always|pg|| mb|2H|nt|ahollan6: i was going to ask about 2@H or 3@H then i looked to see what Brad did - of course his was 3@H|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|3S|nt|reisig: Beware of 7@s|pg|| mb|p|mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5C|an|1/4|mb|p|mb|5N|mb|p|nt|ahollan6: Jo Morse PASS looks very timid, but let's give Brad Moss some credit for his choice of 3@H|pg|| nt|ahollan6: 5N for specific Kings???|pg|| mb|6H|mb|p|nt|ahollan6: 6@H = @HK but no minor King|pg|| nt|reisig: OK ..now 6@s|pg|| mb|6S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan6: good NS auction|pg|| pc|h6|nt|reisig: Super|pg|| pc|hA|nt|reisig: Even I can make this one!|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h9|pg|| nt|ahollan6: fast claim asking about @CK location?|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|h5|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|ahollan6: penalize 5 yards for delay of game??|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s5|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|h7|pg|| nt|reisig: Just ask ..where @c K|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c6|pc|c5|pc|cK|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c10|st||md|4SK8652HK9DJ8CQJ73,SHQT7652DQT732CT6,SAQT943HA3DAK6CA5,SJ7HJ84D954CK9842|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|d|mb|4H|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: oh my|pg|| pc|h7|nt|fabsayc: jo never came close to bidding her hand|pg|| nt|medwards: Wow can not believe she made no try|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o11|st||md|1SQ4HAK742DA32CK62,SK52H98DQJ95C9754,S98763HJ6DT864CAT,SAJTHQT53DK7CQJ83|sv|o|nt|ahollan6: perfect analysis again RR|pg|| nt|reisig: Close match now|pg|| nt|ahollan6: btw is it by design or coincidental that you share initials with Rueful Rabbit?|pg|| nt|reisig: :)|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2H!|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|reisig: always play in the Maj that splits 3-3|pg|| nt|ahollan6: if spectators do not know Rueful Rabbit i urge you to find a copy of Victor Mollo's "Bridge in the Menagerie"|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|d2|pg|| nt|reisig: Might even make this one|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d8|pc|dK|nt|ahollan6: i know players who would not transfer with north hand|pg|| pc|dA|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dJ|nt|ahollan6: they are of course absolutely right - except when they are absolutely wrong or when it doesn't matter|pg|| pc|d6|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c2|pg|| pc|dT|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|d9|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|sT|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h8|nt|reisig: The maych gets closer|pg|| pc|h6|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|hJ|pc|h5|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c7|pc|s3|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|h2|pc|s5|pg|| nt|reisig: my typing matches my bidding|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h4|pc|sK|pc|s7|pg|| pc|c9|nt|ahollan6: curse of RR|pg|| pc|s8|pc|hQ|pc|h7|pg|| pg|| qx|c11|st||md|1SQ4HAK742DA32CK62,SK52H98DQJ95C9754,S98763HJ6DT864CAT,SAJTHQT53DK7CQJ83|sv|o|nt|fabsayc: my try would be 6@S|pg|| nt|medwards: Yes almost no losers in her own hand|pg|| nt|fabsayc: especially given that Ron Smith is super sound bidder|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|nt|medwards: Good point|pg|| mb|2H|an|transfer|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dQ|pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|dA|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sA|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sT|pc|d3|pc|sK|pc|s7|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c2|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h8|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|hJ|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h2|pc|d5|pc|s8|pc|hT|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|d9|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|cT|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o12|st||md|2SKT976HAT52DQC983,SA4HKJ9743D5CAKJ5,S832HQ6DKJ743CQ42,SQJ5H8DAT9862CT76|sv|n|nt|ahollan6: 1@C = 16+unbal or 17+ BAL|pg|| mb|1C!|mb|p|nt|ahollan6: 1@D = 0-7 [might upgrade to 1@H=8-11]|pg|| mb|1H!|nt|BobThomson: White vs. Red is the best vulnerability for strong club... the opponents usually don't interfere much.|pg|| nt|ahollan6: 1@H = 8-11, not 5+@S|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan6: moss-winestock also playing a version of precision|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|nt|ahollan6: in his spingold will moss with grue big club only non-vul|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|nt|reisig: Glad Bob is here - I now officially open the bar|pg|| nt|ahollan6: bramley-stansby 2@H = nat but NOT 5@H 4@C/@D, min|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|BobThomson: gosh, it's only 2:30 in the afternoon here in California|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan6: misunderstanding in other room Moss playing 5@C|pg|| nt|BobThomson: they stretched a bit to bid 3NT... can they make it?|pg|| pc|s8|nt|ahollan6: 1@H established game force|pg|| nt|BobThomson: understandable - a negative response on that hand is a big underbid|pg|| nt|BobThomson: now, on this lead, they're going down|pg|| nt|ahollan6: negotiate for down 1 ??|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sT|nt|BobThomson: JoAnna's got plenty of chances, but they won't come in|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s5|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|h8|pc|hA|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cT|pc|c8|pc|cA|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|d2|pc|h2|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|s6|pc|h3|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|s7|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|s9|pc|h4|pc|d7|pc|d9|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h7|pc|dJ|pc|dT|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| pg|| qx|c12|st||md|2SKT976HAT52DQC983,SA4HKJ9743D5CAKJ5,S832HQ6DKJ743CQ42,SQJ5H8DAT9862CT76|sv|n|mb|1C!|an|strong|mb|p|mb|1D!|mb|p|mb|1H|an|alerted|mb|p|mb|2C!|an|5-7|mb|p|mb|3C!|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: 1@H i assume, could have longer minor, 2@C showing values with diamonds|pg|| mb|3D|nt|fabsayc: oh ok, point count semi=positive|pg|| mb|p|nt|fabsayc: undo|pg|| nt|ahollan1: right about 1@H 4+@H, F1 2@C = art, (5)6-7, not 3+@H|pg|| mb|3H|nt|medwards: Spiraling out of control|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i think 3@C can still be 4@H 5@C or 5@H 4@C, etc|pg|| mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: we use to have a rebid of 2@H rather than 1@H, limited hand with 6 hearts|pg|| nt|fabsayc: certainly works on this hand|pg|| mb|5C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|h8|pc|h5|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sJ|pc|sT|pc|s4|pg|| nt|fabsayc: i very much doubt any of these are regular partnerships|pg|| nt|medwards: YEs and it shows|pg|| nt|fabsayc: open room playing 3nt, which is not much better than 5@C|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|s9|pc|c5|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|d2|pc|hA|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|dA|pg|| pc|dT|pc|c8|pc|cK|pc|d4|pg|| pc|h9|pc|d7|nt|ahollan1: very reliable source Winestock version of Big Club system 3@C absolutely longer @C|pg|| pc|c7|pc|h2|pg|| pc|d6|mc|8|nt|ahollan1: Moss decided to win spingold instead of study the system|pg|| pg|| qx|o13|st||md|3SKT42HQ85DQ8CQT54,SA3HA9743DAJ96C92,SQ85HTDK732CAKJ86,SJ976HKJ62DT54C73|sv|b|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|nt|ahollan6: we're starting to see a resurgence of raise-on-3 not that 2M+1 asks about range AND 3-fit vs 4-fit|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|nt|ahollan6: NOW that 2M+1 :(|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan6: so 1m-1@H-2@H-2@S and 1m-1@S-2@S-2N|pg|| nt|BobThomson: JoAnna is certainly laying down a nice dummy|pg|| pc|s4|nt|ahollan6: would you bid immediately with west hand ?? i was thinking DBL over 1@S|pg|| nt|BobThomson: yes, I would|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|s6|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c7|nt|BobThomson: Lew can make this if he guesses hearts|pg|| nt|ahollan6: Brad Moss bid 2@H i'm not quite that bold but trying to get to a point where i remember to mention that option|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|c9|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s9|pc|s2|pc|sA|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hT|pc|h2|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h3|pc|c6|pc|hK|pc|h8|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d8|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s7|pc|sT|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h7|pc|c8|pc|h6|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|dQ|mc|8|pg|| qx|c13|st||md|3SKT42HQ85DQ8CQT54,SA3HA9743DAJ96C92,SQ85HTDK732CAKJ86,SJ976HKJ62DT54C73|sv|b|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|fabsayc: so he could and should have rebid 2@H in sheri's system, stopping sensibly|pg|| mb|2H|mb|d|an|3 card support|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|c9|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|sA|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|s7|pc|s2|pg|| pc|d2|nt|medwards: Moss might get a very good count on this hand|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg|| nt|fabsayc: maybe but he is safe to make now, so no fancy stuff expected|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|h5|pg|| nt|fabsayc: he can pick up the hearts|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h8|pc|h3|pc|c6|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|h7|pc|s8|pg|| pc|hA|pc|d3|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dK|mc|9|pg|| qx|o14|st||md|4S98653HQJ92D92CA4,S72HAT7DAK843CK72,SAKT4HK86DQ765C83,SQJH543DJTCQJT965|sv|o|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|ahollan6: Winestock did NOT open 3@C so Moss plays 3@C from west after 1N-2@S[size ask]- 3@C[max]|pg|| mb|4C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan6: i was about to say thinking over 3@C is an overbid but i can live with 3@C|pg|| nt|ahollan6: don't love it - but can live with it|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|ahollan6: to be fair in JoAnna's partnertnership with Pamela Granovetter -- east is not a 3@C opener|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h3|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|h4|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sJ|pc|s5|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sQ|pc|s8|pc|s7|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|hT|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c14|st||md|4S98653HQJ92D92CA4,S72HAT7DAK843CK72,SAKT4HK86DQ765C83,SQJH543DJTCQJT965|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|nt|medwards: 1NT?|pg|| mb|1N|an|14-16|mb|p|mb|2S!|mb|p|mb|3C!|nt|medwards: This action might wake up N-S|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|medwards: But no|pg|| nt|medwards: New leader|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sJ|pc|s8|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sQ|pc|s6|pc|s7|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|h8|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|hA|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|dJ|pc|d9|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|cJ|pc|s3|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|c3|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|c9|pc|s5|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o15|st||md|1SHKQT974DQ753CQ75,SAQJ54HJ83D82CK62,ST8732H2DJT64CJ94,SK96HA65DAK9CAT83|sv|n|nt|ahollan6: final board of the set closed room also on 15|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|nt|ahollan6: 1@S=10-15|pg|| mb|p|mb|2C!|nt|ahollan6: initial PASS was not matched even by conservative bidder Ron Smith|pg|| nt|ahollan6: 2@C = RELAY, FG says nothing about @C suit|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|an|5-3-3-2 11-13|nt|ahollan6: 2N = 5M(332)|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan6: says nothing about range|pg|| mb|3C!|an|ask|nt|ahollan6: 3@C RELAY for doubleton|pg|| nt|ahollan6: LMH steps|pg|| mb|p|mb|3H!|an|5-3-2-3|nt|ahollan6: 3@H = middle doubleton so 5323|pg|| nt|ahollan6: LMH = low, middle, high|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan6: as an aside when JoAnna plays GUS with Pamela Granovetter shortness is shown HML high, mid, low|pg|| pc|d4|nt|ahollan6: Lew coud have asked about @S quality|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d7|nt|ahollan6: GUS = Granovetter Unified System|pg|| pc|d8|pg|| pc|s6|pc|hT|nt|ahollan6: it is being played by Pamela-Matthew Granovetter in this event|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|h4|pg|| pc|sK|pc|h7|pc|s4|pc|s7|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|c4|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|cK|pc|c9|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s8|pc|d9|mc|11|pg|| qx|c15|st||md|1SHKQT974DQ753CQ75,SAQJ54HJ83D82CK62,ST8732H2DJT64CJ94,SK96HA65DAK9CAT83|sv|n|nt|fabsayc: spade nine by ron at trick 2 might have avoid that result|pg|| mb|2H|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|4C|nt|fabsayc: chip martel points out ducking club ace works also|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|nt|fabsayc: or maybe not, lol|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|s6|pc|h7|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|h9|pg|| pc|sK|pc|hT|pc|s5|pc|s7|pg|| nt|fabsayc: needs an avoidance play in clubs|pg|| nt|fabsayc: for example, lead club 8 and duck|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|c4|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s8|pc|h5|pc|d3|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sT|pc|h6|nt|fabsayc: i was looking at maximizing tricks|pg|| pc|c7|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c9|pc|cA|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|c8|pc|hQ|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pg|| mc|11|pg||