vg|A 2016 Spingold SF,Segment 2 of 4,I,16,30,Zimmermann,32,Lavazza,14| rs|3NW-3,3DW=,3SN=,4CW-1,3DE-1,5HNx-1,2SN+1,3CW=,1NN=,1NN=,4HN+1,6HS-2,3NN+1,3DS=,3NS=,3NN+2,6HE+1,6HE+1,4HS-2,4HS-2,7HW=,7HE=,4HW-2,3HW-2,6CS=,6HS+1,5DEx-1,5HN-1,4SSx-1,4SS-1| pn|Helgemo,Brenner,Helness,Bocchi,Duboin,Martens,Bilde,Zimmermann|pg|| qx|o16|st||md|2SJT32HT63D643CQT3,SA74HJDAQT987C984,SKQ95HA854DKJ5C72,S86HKQ972D2CAKJ65|sv|e|mb|1D|mb|d|mb|r|mb|1S|nt|barnets: Hi all|pg|| nt|barnets: we need helgemos name in south|pg|| nt|kareno: And we are off to the races|pg|| mb|2D|nt|kareno: Barnet :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|nt|barnets: hi karen|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sK|nt|kareno: This won't be a success|pg|| nt|kareno: My style is more to bid my suits (natural and forcing) ignoring the takeout double.|pg|| nt|barnets: declarer has 8 tricks with @H 10 falling in 3|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|sA|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|kareno: Ah - redouble actually showed hearts and forcing. I keep forgetting transfers - lots of them these days.|pg|| nt|kareno: Thanks to Roland Wald who reminded me|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h6|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s8|pc|s3|nt|barnets: looks like he will try for 2hearts 5 clubs and 2 aces|pg|| pc|s4|pg|| pc|s9|nt|kareno: That's the most logical path (if it works) to nine tricks.|pg|| pc|h7|pc|sT|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|d7|pc|s5|pc|h9|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d2|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|d6|mc|6|nt|ahollan6: RDBL = 5+@H|pg|| pg|| qx|c16|st||md|2SJT32HT63D643CQT3,SA74HJDAQT987C984,SKQ95HA854DKJ5C72,S86HKQ972D2CAKJ65|sv|e|mb|1D|mb|d|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfc: there was a successful appeal from the last segment that resulted in a swing of 18 IMPs. |pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: I didn't get all the details but it was a weighted ruling (75% of one result - -800 and 25% of another, I believe)|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: there was misinformation from Zimmermann and Multon involved. They are not appeaaling further.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|sJ|pc|s4|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s8|pc|sT|pc|sA|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|c3|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|s7|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|c4|pc|h5|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|c5|pc|s2|pc|d7|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|mc|9|pg|| qx|o17|st||md|3SAQ7HQ94DK862CJ54,S4HAT85D4CAQ98762,SJT98652HKJDATCT3,SK3H7632DQJ9753CK|sv|o|nt|barnets: actually on the bidding the contract was decent|pg|| mb|p|mb|3D|nt|kareno: Basically he needed to be able to run the clubs|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|barnets: Nrenner does not know they can make 4@S|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c9|nt|barnets: looking at 2 hands 4@S rates to go down|pg|| pc|c3|pg|| pc|h6|nt|kareno: With north a passed hand, Helgemo takes the low road. Brenner with minimal defense to spades, taps out.|pg|| pc|h4|nt|barnets: 3 rounds clubs|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cT|nt|barnets: promote trump trick|pg|| pc|h7|pc|c5|pg|| nt|barnets: good def|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|cJ|pg|| nt|kareno: And indeed 3@s is the limit of the hand.|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dA|pg|| mc|9|nt|barnets: so well judged by helgemo|pg|| pg|| qx|c17|st||md|3SAQ7HQ94DK862CJ54,S4HAT85D4CAQ98762,SJT98652HKJDATCT3,SK3H7632DQJ9753CK|sv|o|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cK|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hA|nt|ahollan5: my spy tells me: the director ruled misinformation and that had there been correct information, 75% of the time Lavazza would have been +800 and 25% of the time ...|pg|| pc|hJ|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cT|pc|d3|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h9|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o18|st||md|4S8764H75432DAK8C3,SAKQ9H98D5CAKT864,STHAKJT6DJ42CQJ75,SJ532HQDQT9763C92|sv|n|mb|3D|mb|p|nt|ahollan6: my spy tells me re: Q1 ruling the director ruled misinformation and that had there been correct information, 75% of the time Lavazza would have been +800 and 25% of the time ...|pg|| nt|ahollan6: Zimmermann would have been +500. That made IMP result on the board +6 for Lavazza instead of +12 for Zimmermann. Both teams have the right to appeal, not sure whether either of ...|pg|| nt|ahollan6: them is doing so.|pg|| mb|p|nt|barnets: 4 of both majors in play|pg|| mb|p|pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c9|pg|| nt|kareno: The loosey goosey 3@d causes e/w to lose a spade contract. Not sure on the surface if game can in fact be made|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|dK|pg|| nt|barnets: yes 4@H is easy but 4@S more tricky|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h8|pc|hK|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|kareno: Hard for north to balance - if his partner is short in diamonds, why no takeout double.|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sA|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h6|pc|d3|pc|h3|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|c4|pc|d4|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sK|pc|dJ|pc|s3|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c2|nt|barnets: If north and west are screenmates perhaps a slow pass by west may have influenced north not to bid|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c18|st||md|4S8764H75432DAK8C3,SAKQ9H98D5CAKT864,STHAKJT6DJ42CQJ75,SJ532HQDQT9763C92|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1H|mb|d|an|spades|mb|4H|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|5D|mb|p|mb|5H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfc: Martens is leaning back in his chair with his eyes closed, thinking|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfc: Bilde: BBO is sleeping already|pg|| pc|c9|nt|Vugraphzfc: bilde sticks the heart 6 into dummy to make a big straight flush|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|c5|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sT|pc|s5|pc|s4|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: Bilde asks about leads -- "all standard, so 3rd and 5th...." Is most common now but now called standard over here|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: not called...|pg|| pc|hK|pc|d7|pc|h3|pc|h9|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c2|pc|h4|pc|c4|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|hT|pc|s2|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|d3|pc|h5|pc|c6|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s9|pc|h6|pc|s3|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o19|st||md|1S64HAQ72DKT972CK4,SA87HKJDA43CAQT52,SKQT952HT84D5CJ86,SJ3H9653DQJ86C973|sv|e|mb|1D|mb|d|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|kareno: South and west are screenmates, though.|pg|| mb|1N|nt|barnets: ok then cancel that|pg|| nt|ahollan6: 1@D = 4+@D if 44 then it is lowest 4-card suit|pg|| mb|d|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|c6|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|s4|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| nt|kareno: Predicting down one - diamond, two clubs, heart, spade. Possibly down 2.|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|s6|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|c7|pc|h2|pg|| pc|sK|pc|h6|pc|d2|pc|s8|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|dK|nt|kareno: So I am miscounting. Diamond, 2 clubs, heart, spade is just making.|pg|| nt|barnets: so on 18 after east had passed as dealer ew bid up to 4@S and n/s went to 5@H|pg|| pc|d4|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d3|pc|s5|nt|barnets: West still considering his bid over 5@H|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c19|st||md|1S64HAQ72DKT972CK4,SA87HKJDA43CAQT52,SKQT952HT84D5CJ86,SJ3H9653DQJ86C973|sv|e|nt|Vugraphzfc: Bilde to Martens: You should have the 9 of diamonds|pg|| mb|1D|mb|d|mb|2H!|an|spades|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|d3|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|c8|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|s4|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c7|pc|cK|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o20|st||md|2SJ9HQJ76DT874CQT9,SKQ4HT43DKCAJ8542,S863HAK9DAQ953CK7,SAT752H852DJ62C63|sv|b|mb|1C|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|s9|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s8|pc|sT|pc|d4|pg|| pc|sA|pc|d7|pc|hT|pc|d3|pg|| pc|s7|pc|d8|pc|h3|pc|d5|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| mc|7|nt|barnets: the final contract on 18 was 5@HX which rates to go down 1|pg|| pg|| qx|c20|st||md|2SJ9HQJ76DT874CQT9,SKQ4HT43DKCAJ8542,S863HAK9DAQ953CK7,SAT752H852DJ62C63|sv|b|nt|Vugraphzfc: Bilde gets a score card is is filling in the scores from the first 4 boards|pg|| mb|1C|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s5|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s8|pc|sT|pc|d4|pg|| pc|sA|pc|d7|pc|h3|pc|d5|pg|| pc|s7|pc|d8|pc|c5|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d2|mc|7|pg|| qx|o21|st||md|3S5HQT9832DACQJT96,SAQ972H6D8762C842,SJ83HAJ54DKQJ4CK7,SKT64HK7DT953CA53|sv|n|nt|barnets: it shows what havoc a losse preempt throws to both sides|pg|| nt|barnets: loose preempt|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|4C!|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|nt|kareno: And there are plenty of loose preempts today among the younger set :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|d3|nt|barnets: looks like n/s playing south african texas|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d4|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|h4|pc|hK|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s5|nt|barnets: clubs for hearts and diamonds for spades|pg|| nt|kareno: Rarely see South African Texas|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pg|| nt|barnets: this leaves a bid inbetween for a slam try|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c21|st||md|3S5HQT9832DACQJT96,SAQ972H6D8762C842,SJ83HAJ54DKQJ4CK7,SKT64HK7DT953CA53|sv|n|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D!|nt|Adam007: po malym moga zmontowac obrone 4@s czasem|pg|| mb|2S|nt|Vugraphzfc: Bilde started to pass the tray through before Zimmermann had bid. Zimmermann asking ?s about the auction|pg|| mb|3D|an|diamonds values or want partner to declr|nt|Vugraphzfc: Bilde explaining the 2@D could sometimes be a hand with 5 spades, but probably not this time (they both laugh)|pg|| mb|3H|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|4S|mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|mb|6H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfc: Zimmermann looking at auction and he and Bilde laugh -- won't be funny in a minute :)|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: Duboin can't picture a N hand with only 1 KC, I guess, on this auction|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: may be something other than KC -- i don't know|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: double of no, a big loss for the trailing team|pg|| nt|pdlit: is it possible that Zimmermann will believe NS and bid 6@s? :)|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: very doubtful to me, but what do I know|pg|| nt|pdlit: i agree, specs, it is very unlikely and X is more likely|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: other table playing bd 29|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: Bilde is reading the Daily Bulletin from the tournament|pg|| mb|p|nt|pdlit: if S thought N had 4 kc, might he not try for 7? wouldn't 4kcs + the @cK = 18 hcp|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: Zimmerman: I pass Bilde: are you sure?|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|sK|pc|h8|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|h4|pc|hK|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|c7|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: Yes, Duboin thought Bilde had 4 key cards|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o22|st||md|4S965HAK3DAK762CT3,SK32H752D9843CQ74,SJ74HQJT6DQJ5CK95,SAQT8H984DTCAJ862|sv|e|nt|ahollan6: are they allowed to bid the intermediate step or is SAF absolutely forcing opener to bid 4M?|pg|| mb|1C|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|ahollan6: 1@C = 2+|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|barnets: it depends on their agreement I like the step in between|pg|| nt|kareno: I think opener with a slammish hand can bid the intermediate step|pg|| nt|runnerup: he played like said ..no one playes it out in case @c 5-1 ,,|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c22|st||md|4S965HAK3DAK762CT3,SK32H752D9843CQ74,SJ74HQJT6DQJ5CK95,SAQT8H984DTCAJ862|sv|e|nt|Vugraphzfc: great attitude from Duboin and Bilde -- still smiling|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: Duboin: I thought 7 might be on a finesse|pg|| mb|1C|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfc: another great result for Zimmermann in other room|pg|| mb|2N|nt|pdlit: set score 37-0|pg|| mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|pdlit: in the OR, a club was led and declarer claimed 10 tricks|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|dT|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|c2|pc|d6|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d5|pc|c8|pc|dK|pc|d8|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|c5|pc|h4|pg|| nt|pdlit: i imagine a quick claim here and another 8 to Zimmermann|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|h9|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|hT|pc|h8|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|s8|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|c6|pc|s5|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s4|mc|9|pg|| qx|o23|st||md|1SQ73H97DT74CAQ972,SA94HJT8543DQCT65,SK52HAKQ2DAKJ96C3,SJT86H6D8532CKJ84|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|nt|runnerup: 3nt was down from top|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|runnerup: or more down in case declarer puts @c K|pg|| mb|2H|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|barnets: so 5@HX went down expected 1 for 6 imps to Zimmerman|pg|| nt|barnets: now up by 36|pg|| pc|h3|nt|kareno: Surprise Lavazza so slow at the starting gate.|pg|| nt|barnets: pointed out earlier there is an 18 imp corection to come from ruling|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h7|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|barnets: subject to appeal|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|d3|pc|h9|pg|| nt|kareno: Which board Barnet?|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d8|pc|dT|pc|h4|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|s6|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d7|nt|barnets: it was an earlier board but not sure if correction has been made or not on scoreline|pg|| pc|c5|pg|| nt|Walddk2: It has|pg|| pc|dK|pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|c8|nt|barnets: tks so score is good|pg|| pc|c7|mc|9|pg|| qx|c23|st||md|1SQ73H97DT74CAQ972,SA94HJT8543DQCT65,SK52HAKQ2DAKJ96C3,SJT86H6D8532CKJ84|sv|b|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|d|mb|r!|an|bid your suit please|nt|pdlit: they are on the last board in the OR|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h6|pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|hK|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|c5|pg|| nt|pdlit: now a @s?|pg|| pc|s3|nt|pdlit: bridge is a simple game|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|s6|pg|| pc|hA|pc|d3|pc|h7|pc|h3|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|s7|pc|s9|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o24|st||md|2SJ432H64DJT32CA52,SQ87HA9DAKQ765C94,ST965H85D94CQT863,SAKHKQJT732D8CKJ7|sv|o|nt|pelu: 5@D D after Zimmermann forgot that 1@H by his parttner was transfer to @s - no alert and strong @h- "support" by Z|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|nt|ahollan6: 1@D=4+@D, unbal|pg|| mb|2N!|mb|p|nt|barnets: actually that was a remarkeable X by zimmerman on his void |pg|| nt|runnerup: 6nt /east is 100%|pg|| mb|3C!|nt|ahollan6: 2N = a) @D, weak b) some [semi]solid 6+suit|pg|| mb|p|mb|3S!|mb|p|nt|ahollan6: first time auction has gone this far assume 3@C=RELAY just not sure if 3@S = step response or just Other Major|pg|| nt|kareno: The book is growing by the minute, Al ::)|pg|| nt|runnerup: you can survive by swithing to 6nt ,,as that is 100%|pg|| mb|4D|mb|p|nt|kareno: Al, the peanut gallery is claiming this is the first bid in 25 years you couldn't explain :)|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|5D|mb|p|mb|6H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan6: nope many this week|pg|| pc|s3|mc|13|nt|ahollan6: possibly 4@S = RKC for @H|pg|| pg|| qx|c24|st||md|2SJ432H64DJT32CA52,SQ87HA9DAKQ765C94,ST965H85D94CQT863,SAKHKQJT732D8CKJ7|sv|o|nt|Vugraphzfc: martens borrows Bilde's score card: "I forgot to keep score"|pg|| nt|ahollan5: thru [different] 23 fleisher 27-2 set leads strul by 46|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfc: i've seen several top pairs playing strong jump shifts this tournament|pg|| mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5H|nt|pdlit: in the round of 16, most of the matches were v close; yesterday and, so far today, most were/are not|pg|| mb|p|mb|6H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfc: maybe the play here will be quick|pg|| nt|ahollan5: martel-fleisher also play strong jump shift i think it is alertable|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: Bilde: Maybe we have three aces this time|pg|| pc|h4|nt|ahollan5: [sarcasm]|pg|| nt|kareno: Wow! Zimmermann didn't even sniff at a grand slam.|pg|| nt|barnets: they are off an ace|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: they aare off a key card|pg|| nt|barnets: wrong hand Karen|pg|| mc|13|nt|barnets: next to come|pg|| nt|kareno: Oh, oops - next hand. Looked familiar :)|pg|| nt|barnets: I like these play problems|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: short bathroom break (it is in the suite); Duboin and Bilde discussion the 3@D bid after the transfer to hearts on the hand they got way too high|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: Duboin telling Bilde about the hand he thought Bilde had on that one|pg|| pg|| qx|o25|st||md|3SAK9HAQT874DCKQJ6,SQJ86432HKJ62DA3C,ST5H3DQT8742CT952,S7H95DKJ965CA8743|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|nt|barnets: a diamond lead would make dec nervous needing cash 2 diamonds aand 3 spades|pg|| mb|2C|mb|3S|nt|barnets: if hearts were 3-1|pg|| mb|d!|mb|p|nt|kareno: System note from spec: 3S showed hearts and acted as key-card...4D = 2 no Q ; 4S cnt'n, 5D showed diamond king|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sQ|nt|kareno: Fairly standard treatment is that double of interference after 2@c shows a weak hand.|pg|| nt|runnerup: hope no @s 2 lead ,,for @c ruff|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s7|pc|sA|pg|| pc|c6|nt|ahollan6: why wouldn't spec feed that info to me :(|pg|| nt|kareno: Trying to sneak to dummy for a heartplay but oops|pg|| nt|barnets: n/s dont have many making contracts here they are likely to reach|pg|| nt|kareno: He likes me better? Anyway I fed it to you, Al :)|pg|| nt|ahollan6: :)|pg|| pc|h2|pc|c2|pc|c8|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hT|mc|8|pg|| qx|c25|st||md|3SAK9HAQT874DCKQJ6,SQJ86432HKJ62DA3C,ST5H3DQT8742CT952,S7H95DKJ965CA8743|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|3D|nt|barnets: Helgemo Opened 2@C on the south hand as they got to 4@H after west bid 3@S and North xd|pg|| mb|p|nt|pdlit: even 2@s can be defeated|pg|| nt|swanson: Wouldn't 3@C instead of the 2nd double have been more appropriate with the South cards?|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan5: sorry Roland what was the question?|pg|| nt|barnets: I think South wanted to take a stronger action |pg|| pc|s4|nt|barnets: and that he thought 3@C was not suficient|pg|| nt|pdlit: i wondered if N might take it as kickback|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: bilde: good luck - you might need it|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s7|pc|s9|pg|| nt|ahollan5: i think 3@D just strong preference for @D [and 2N probably scramble] but not 100% certain|pg|| pc|hA|nt|swanson: Lovely 1st trick for declarer.|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h6|pc|d2|pc|h9|pg|| nt|swanson: Not so lovely 3rd trick.|pg|| pc|d5|pc|h4|pc|d3|pc|d4|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|c2|pc|d6|pg|| pc|hK|pc|d7|nt|swanson: The @HQ is a better percantage play in a vacuum, but declarer was expecting short hearts in West.|pg|| pc|c3|pc|hT|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|c6|pc|s2|pc|cT|pc|cA|pg|| pc|dK|pc|cJ|mc|8|nt|Vugraphzfc: when Zimmermann cashed the king of diamonds, Martens: Bravo|pg|| pg|| qx|o26|st||md|4SK985H4D9863CJT63,SAQ4H9852DA754CA2,SJT632H6DKQT2C984,S7HAKQJT73DJCKQ75|sv|b|mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|ahollan6: 2@D = a) unbal, FG b) BAL, 23+ hcp |pg|| mb|p|mb|2S!|mb|p|nt|kareno: A strong Multi or.. ?|pg|| nt|ahollan6: there actually was a time that ACBL would not allow strong 2@C/@D opener without more HCP|pg|| mb|2N!|mb|p|nt|ahollan6: 2@D = 5+ hcp RELAY|pg|| mb|3C!|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|nt|ahollan6: 2@S = a) @H or @S b) @H & @S|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4C|nt|ahollan6: 3@C = 1-suit or 5@H 4@S|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|nt|ahollan6: 3@H = @H!!!!!!|pg|| nt|kareno: See if it breaks a record for number of bids, Al :)|pg|| nt|runnerup: even if you chance ns's hands ..(places) ..7nt can be made by no finesses|pg|| nt|ahollan6: 4@C may be a variation of Turbo|pg|| mb|5C|mb|p|mb|5H|mb|p|nt|kareno: Turbo?|pg|| mb|7H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dK|mc|13|pg|| qx|c26|st||md|4SK985H4D9863CJT63,SAQ4H9852DA754CA2,SJT632H6DKQT2C984,S7HAKQJT73DJCKQ75|sv|b|nt|barnets: this is Karens hand but she left|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|3H|nt|ahollan5: hmmm just noticed Martens displaying flag of Poland even though representing Monaco in upcoming World Bridge Games|pg|| mb|p|mb|3S|nt|Vugraphzfc: Poland came up by default -- I could have changed it but didn't|pg|| mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|d|mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|mb|7H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d6|mc|13|nt|Vugraphzfc: zimm: can someone help me with how I can go down (showing his hand) Bilde: Yes, duck the first trick|pg|| pg|| qx|o27|st||md|1SAJT93HT87DAJ8CKT,S62HAQJ6DT652C943,SQ754H94D743CQJ62,SK8HK532DKQ9CA875|sv|o|nt|ahollan6: i kibitzed burgess-marston once totally removing all of opponents PASS cards by using EVERY bid from 1@C thru 3N|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|d|mb|p|nt|ahollan6: in Turbo on bid shows an even number of keycards and other bids show odd KC + more info|pg|| nt|ahollan6: very possible that it is really on shows odd and other even i never remember|pg|| mb|2N!|nt|ahollan6: 1@S = 5+suit|pg|| nt|barnets: on 21 Lavazza bid slam off 2 aces and a trump trick on a contested auction|pg|| mb|p|mb|3C!|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|barnets: Martens came in with 2@s and they bid up to 4|pg|| mb|p|pc|s5|nt|runnerup: -3 |pg|| nt|ahollan6: for historians: Turbo probably had an origin in Culbertson 4N|pg|| nt|barnets: South duboin then accepted Norths slam try|pg|| nt|runnerup: but ns has 140 |pg|| pc|sK|pc|sA|nt|kareno: Ooh, I remember. |pg|| pc|s2|pg|| nt|barnets: another big swing for zimmerman|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|s8|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|h4|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h9|pc|h3|pc|h8|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|d8|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hT|mc|8|pg|| qx|c27|st||md|1SAJT93HT87DAJ8CKT,S62HAQJ6DT652C943,SQ754H94D743CQJ62,SK8HK532DKQ9CA875|sv|o|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|nt|ahollan5: Bilde's comment is pure Eddie Kantar in Kantar articles about how to play a grand slam he always says win trick 1 -- good play|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|d8|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|h9|pg|| pc|hA|pc|s4|pc|h5|pc|hT|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|d9|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|c5|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s9|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|cQ|mc|7|pg|| qx|o28|st||md|2S6HAKQJ43DCAKJ872,SQT95HT952DQ753CQ,SJ72HDAJT9642CT94,SAK843H876DK8C653|sv|n|nt|runnerup: and more slams|pg|| nt|barnets: So 21 was a winner for Helgemo who texas to 4 level keeping the opponents out of bidding|pg|| mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|nt|kareno: Some distributions here today!|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|barnets: when in the other room a simple transfer let opps in bidding and causes much pain|pg|| nt|ahollan6: sure hope 3@H is forcing|pg|| nt|ahollan6: now 5@C-6@C?|pg|| nt|ahollan6: or 6@C-pause|pg|| mb|6C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kareno: This approach works fine.|pg|| nt|ahollan6: pause & pass seems like good description|pg|| nt|barnets: actually zimmerman still has a bid over 6@H hard to imagine he can bid anything except pass or X|pg|| nt|barnets: but you never know bridge is a funny game|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sK|pc|c7|pc|s5|mc|12|nt|barnets: the strange thing on 21 is that n/s checked for aces and bid slam missing 3|pg|| nt|barnets: 2 and the heart K|pg|| nt|barnets: voluntarilly|pg|| pg|| qx|c28|st||md|2S6HAKQJ43DCAKJ872,SQT95HT952DQ753CQ,SJ72HDAJT9642CT94,SAK843H876DK8C653|sv|n|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|6H|mb|p|nt|ahollan5: i think 3@H is forcing |pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: BIlde: Ah, we play transfers Duboin: Didn't you open 3 hearts?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfc: bilde: first hurdle, no double|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|cA|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|s2|pc|h6|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: everyone impatient with Zimmermann, who cannot play a card quickly|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|d2|pc|h7|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h9|pc|d4|pc|h8|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o29|st||md|3SQ8HAQT952DT9CK92,SAT943HDQ6CQJ7643,SK2HJ8743DA83CA85,SJ765HK6DKJ7542CT|sv|b|nt|barnets: Zimmerman has been thinking for about 10 mins now|pg|| mb|1H|nt|kareno: Do you remember a hand in a WC when France checked for aces and bid 7 off three of them. Someone had made a strong bid lacking any.|pg|| nt|barnets: finally he passed 6@H|pg|| mb|2D|mb|2N!|nt|runnerup: and figth hands again|pg|| nt|barnets: So ew will make their 3 aces|pg|| nt|ahollan6: i remember playing Romex partner hand i both had solid 2-suiters missing the aces so we both jumped, then when someone asked the other showed 0/4 aces which just had to be 4|pg|| nt|runnerup: 4@s is very expecsive ..like 650|pg|| nt|ahollan6: so we bid grand off FOUR aces|pg|| mb|d|nt|barnets: did they x you Al ?|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|nt|barnets: that would be unsporting|pg|| mb|4H|nt|kareno: Same story with that French story - 5@c showed 0 or 3|pg|| mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5D|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|runnerup: now - score|pg|| nt|runnerup: 4@h you need to guess @h|pg|| nt|runnerup: 5@d is bad ,,|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|ahollan6: Barnet -- i thought the question would be did you make :)|pg|| nt|ahollan6: btw George Rosenkranz [he created Romex system] turns 100 next month|pg|| nt|ahollan6: and Agustin Madala turns 30 next week|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|nt|kareno: Trump lead would have been better.|pg|| pc|s6|pg|| nt|barnets: not even Victor Mollo could do that story I think Al|pg|| nt|kareno: And I turned 75 last week :)|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|s8|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|d6|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|cT|pc|cK|pg|| nt|barnets: the closed room are on board 22 only|pg|| pc|c9|nt|kareno: Now a heart trick is lost|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c29|st||md|3SQ8HAQT952DT9CK92,SAT943HDQ6CQJ7643,SK2HJ8743DA83CA85,SJ765HK6DKJ7542CT|sv|b|nt|Walddk2: Didn't he claim 13?|pg|| mb|1H|nt|eamongall: He did |pg|| mb|p|mb|2C|mb|2S|mb|d|nt|ahollan5: 2@C = RELAY, INV+ can be 1-suit @C, INV [rebid 3@C]|pg|| mb|4D|an|diamonds and spade fit|nt|barnets: South led the @SQ V 5@Dx Dec won and played a spade to north. It looks like a low diamond from North will lead to 800 as def will collect 2 heart tricks. However def went wrong ...|pg|| nt|barnets: and slipped a couple of tricks letting dec escape for down 1|pg|| nt|barnets: In fact north played @Da and a diamond|pg|| mb|5H|nt|ahollan5: I thikn 1@H-P-2N is 3+fit but exactly INV|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cT|nt|Vugraphzfc: bilde: didn't think you could it in 4@H? (laughs)|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|cA|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|c7|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|c4|pg|| pc|s8|nt|ahollan5: 2nd half starts in 2.5 hours|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: screen down and Martens asking ?s of Duboin|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|d5|pc|cK|pg|| nt|barnets: dec needs west to have sing diamond so as he can throw him in witg the third club|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|dT|pc|d6|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o30|st||md|4SKJ54H764DQCJ7642,SQ986HKJ8532DA7C5,SA732HTDK632CAKQ9,STHAQ9DJT9854CT83|sv|o|nt|kareno: This room played like a hurricane last set too! Wish they could start the 3rd quarter so I could see it. Got a baseball game to go to.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|barnets: are you playing /|pg|| mb|1H|nt|barnets: ?|pg|| mb|d|mb|2D!|nt|barnets: enjoy|pg|| nt|kareno: Just watching. |pg|| nt|kareno: Thanks :)|pg|| nt|ahollan6: 2@D = 3-fit, competitive [better than bidding 2@H]|pg|| mb|2S|mb|4H|mb|4S|mb|p|nt|runnerup: but you cant see what lead is coming so 3nt is not good contract in 22|pg|| mb|p|mb|d|nt|ahollan6: martel-fleisher on 23 [different boards]|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c5|nt|runnerup: 4@h has chances ,,this about -1 |pg|| nt|barnets: Another 8 imps to Zimmerman on 22 when n/s stayed in 3@D and 3N made here|pg|| nt|kareno: 5@d was down 2 wasn't it?|pg|| nt|barnets: no def lost their heart trick|pg|| nt|barnets: mis def|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cT|nt|barnets: piyched on club winner|pg|| pc|c4|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sT|pc|s4|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s2|pc|d4|pc|sK|pc|s8|pg|| nt|kareno: 1@h 1@c 1@d, 1@s?|pg|| mc|9|nt|barnets: according to the play one heart wnet on spade and another on a winning club if that is accurate|pg|| nt|barnets: so no hearts|pg|| nt|kareno: Well, thanks to all, specs, commentators, Operaator and we'll have plenty of time too wait for results.|pg|| nt|kareno: I see - soouth didn't cash his heart.|pg|| nt|kareno: So you folks can wait for results here or jump to the other room and see it live :) I'm going to take my leave and see you all tomorrow|pg|| pg|| qx|c30|st||md|4SKJ54H764DQCJ7642,SQ986HKJ8532DA7C5,SA732HTDK632CAKQ9,STHAQ9DJT9854CT83|sv|o|nt|ahollan5: final board of the 1st half|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: last board of a grim half for Lavazza and a very happy one for Zimmermann|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|d|nt|Vugraphzfc: second half after a dinner break - starts about 2 hours, 20 minutes from now|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: yes, and as kibitzer points out, an appeal gave a net 18 IMPs to Lavazza|pg|| mb|2H|mb|2S|mb|3H|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h3|pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|h6|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sT|pc|s4|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s2|mc|9|nt|Vugraphzfc: I can't give details about the appeal. There was misinformation on bd 7 (I think?) that led to a contract that wouldn't have been reached in the director's opinioni (more....)|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: failure to alert artificial bid led to a split ruling (75% of one result and 25% of another -- don't know the details well enough to say more)|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: sorry not to be more helpful. See you, I hope, in a couple of hours. |pg|| pg||