vg|2016 Senior USBC FINAL,Segment 5 of 6,I,1,15,Hamman NPC,112,Wolfson,125| rs|3HE-1,4HE-3,2DS=,2DS=,1SS+1,2SS=,4HN+1,4HN+1,1NS=,1NS+1,3NW-2,4DE-3,2SW=,1NE+1,4HE=,4HE=,4SS+1,4SS=,1NW-1,1NW-1,6CW-1,6CW-1,3NW-1,3NW-1,1DN+3,1DN+2,2HN+1,3HN=,4HSx-1,5CE=| pn|Zia,Berkowitz,Meckstroth,Sontag,Rosenberg,Hamman,Martel,Lair|pg|| qx|o1|st||md|3SAJ96HK6DJ4CKJ653,S74HQJ74DAQ952C72,STHT82DT8763CA984,SKQ8532HA953DKCQT|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N!|an|Forcing|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|kit: hi everybody|pg|| mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c5|nt|kit: Never clear which to rebid on East hand -- usually hearts, but with the spades so much stronger maybe not.|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|cT|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i think berk says always show 2nd suit|pg|| nt|ahollan1: lair also picked 2@H|pg|| nt|kit: Opening lead effective. Now will be a stuggle to get that 9th trick.|pg|| nt|jgc: PO Sundelin agrees with Berk - why not show partner 9 cards rather than 6|pg|| nt|ahollan1: lair accepted the invite waiting for led against 4@H|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|h8|pc|h5|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|dK|pg|| pc|h9|pc|c3|pc|hJ|pc|hT|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|s2|pc|d4|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d8|pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|s7|pc|d7|pc|sQ|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|h7|mc|7|pg|| qx|c1|st||md|3SAJ96HK6DJ4CKJ653,S74HQJ74DAQ952C72,STHT82DT8763CA984,SKQ8532HA953DKCQT|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|cT|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|c7|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|chorush: It looks like this contract will fail by 2 tricks whether or not a spade ruff is obtained|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|dK|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|hK|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h4|pc|hT|pc|hA|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|sT|pg|| pc|c5|pc|s7|pc|c8|pc|h5|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|hJ|pc|d3|pg|| nt|chorush: now I think down 3|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d7|pc|s2|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|h9|pc|c6|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s9|mc|7|pg|| qx|o2|st||md|4SATH984DKT82CT952,S732HAQT63DQ76CQ8,SKQ86HK752DJ95CAJ,SJ954HJDA43CK7643|sv|n|nt|kit: Was that down 1 or down 2?|pg|| nt|kit: Seems like declarer always had 4 hearts, 1 spade, and 3 diamonds.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|nt|kit: ok|pg|| mb|d|nt|ahollan1: 1@H limited to 15 hcp|pg|| mb|1S|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s7|pc|s8|pc|s9|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|h9|pc|s3|pg|| nt|ahollan1: what does Zia infer after @S2 lead but no support DBL?|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s4|pc|h4|pc|d6|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1 4@H in other room went down the expected extra trick|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2 imps to Wolfson|pg|| nt|kit: will be 3 IMPs, as was down 1 at this table |pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|dK|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pc|c7|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dT|nt|ahollan1: many correcting me about that|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c2|st||md|4SATH984DKT82CT952,S732HAQT63DQ76CQ8,SKQ86HK752DJ95CAJ,SJ954HJDA43CK7643|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|d|nt|chorush: Hamman probably bid 1 heart unless his hand ismissorted|pg|| mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s7|pc|s6|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|s4|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|h4|pc|s3|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|d3|pc|h9|pg|| nt|chorush: there does not seem to be a way to beat this. |pg|| pc|d4|mc|8|pg|| qx|o3|st||md|1SKQJ6HK85DJ32CJ95,ST83HAQ962D654CT6,SA974H73DQ97CKQ82,S52HJT4DAKT8CA743|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cT|pc|c2|pc|c4|nt|kit: East might well have reopened -- seldom right to sell at 1-level with doubleton in their suit.|pg|| pc|cJ|pg|| nt|ahollan1: there was hand yesterday or the day before where competing tables passed 1M response with 4-fit and got to play 1M|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s8|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|d8|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c6|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|d7|pg|| pc|hJ|mc|8|pg|| qx|c3|st||md|1SKQJ6HK85DJ32CJ95,ST83HAQ962D654CT6,SA974H73DQ97CKQ82,S52HJT4DAKT8CA743|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cT|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c9|pc|c6|pc|c8|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s8|pc|s7|pc|s5|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o4|st||md|2SA96HT75DAQ6CAT65,SQ4HQ98DKJ9872C92,S853HAKJ32D5CQJ83,SKJT72H64DT43CK74|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|nt|kit: Should be normal 4@H, which doesn't have any major difficulties as the cards lie.|pg|| mb|3D!|an|!c's and short !d's|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: It is interesting to see that this sort of splinter doesn't need any extras in their partnership.|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|ahollan1: mini-splinter since 2@C = FG|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i think 2@C = FG, 2+|pg|| nt|kit: Actually it is possible to go down on this hand|pg|| nt|kit: A legal line of play would be AK of hearts, then diamond finesse when queen didn't drop|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|s5|pg|| nt|kit: But would still be okay if carreful to duck first spade, as he did.|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|sQ|pc|s8|pg|| nt|kit: I'm not saying that is what he should do, but it could well be the percentage play -- I don't know.|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2 lair did not introduce @SJ9xx rosenberg also playing 2@DS|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h8|pc|hJ|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h7|pc|h9|pg|| pc|hK|pc|d3|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|kit: He took the straightford line, so is always cold.|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c9|pc|c3|pc|c4|pg|| nt|kit: And with club finesse on, he can now try diamond finesse for another trick|pg|| pc|c5|pc|d9|pc|cJ|pc|c7|pg|| pc|c8|pc|d4|pc|c6|pc|d2|pg|| pc|h3|pc|s2|pc|d6|pc|d7|pg|| pc|h2|pc|sT|pc|s9|pc|d8|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c4|st||md|2SA96HT75DAQ6CAT65,SQ4HQ98DKJ9872C92,S853HAKJ32D5CQJ83,SKJT72H64DT43CK74|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|2D|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d3|nt|pdlit: everybody have their seatbelts fastened?|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|d5|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|hJ|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h7|pc|h8|pg|| pc|hK|pc|s7|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c9|mc|11|pg|| qx|o5|st||md|3SK75HA86DAJ8CAJ42,SAJ432HKJ7DQ96CK5,SQT9HQ953DT7CQ986,S86HT42DK5432CT73|sv|n|nt|ahollan1: pop-up |pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|an|14+ - 17|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1N=good 14-17|pg|| nt|kit: Likely 1NT all pass, which will be comfortable|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|s8|pc|s7|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cK|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|s6|pc|s5|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|d6|pc|c8|pc|cT|pg|| pc|c2|pc|h7|pc|c9|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|d9|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sQ|pc|h2|pc|sK|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|h8|pg|| pc|s2|pc|h5|pc|hT|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|dQ|mc|7|pg|| qx|c5|st||md|3SK75HA86DAJ8CAJ42,SAJ432HKJ7DQ96CK5,SQT9HQ953DT7CQ986,S86HT42DK5432CT73|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|s8|pc|s5|pg|| nt|chorush: This segment has begun quite tamely compared to the last segment|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c3|pc|cJ|nt|pdlit: :), compared to the last 2 segments|pg|| nt|gosia: sorry I missed it - wow ! |pg|| pc|cK|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sT|pc|s6|nt|gosia: Had a practice date for DC|pg|| pc|s7|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|h2|pc|sK|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|c7|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|h7|pg|| nt|chorush: seems no risk in a low hear now|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hJ|pc|h3|pc|hT|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o6|st||md|4S9654HKJ3DQ873CK9,SKJ8HQT7DAK4C7542,SAQT7H8652D5CJT83,S32HA94DJT962CAQ6|sv|e|mb|1D|an|2+|mb|p|mb|2N!|an|13-15; may have 4-card M|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|ahollan1: i don't know the link to live video - try going to youtube and searching|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: Difficult 3NT to avoid, and it looks like it will fail by a lot with good defense.|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@D = 10-15, 2+@D|pg|| nt|kit: Heart lead pretty automatic IMO|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2N = BAL, FG|pg|| pc|h6|nt|ahollan1: EW use 1@D-2@H to cover the BAL INV|pg|| nt|kit: And the spade shift (the 6, showing no strength in the suit) is equally clear.|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hK|pc|h7|pg|| pc|s6|nt|ahollan1: 4 [4@HN+1] hamman overcalled 2@D so martel just raised to 3@C still final contract 4@H|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|s2|pg|| nt|kit: Even on heart continuation, declarer will have to win ace and take diamond finesse, hoping everything good happens in minors|pg|| nt|kit: So he can take 5 diamonds, 2 hearts, and 2 clubs. Not today.|pg|| nt|kit: Same on club shift -- he has to finesse|pg|| nt|kit: So it looks like all roads lead to down 3.|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|kit: I don't see declarer can do anythin but finesse if he is trying to make.|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|c4|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cA|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|d5|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|s7|pg|| nt|kit: He may get out for down 2 now with North being end-played in some variations.|pg|| pc|dK|pc|sT|pc|d6|pc|d8|pg|| pc|hT|nt|kit: North seeing end-play coming, makes discard which gives declarer a problem.|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|s8|pc|sA|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|c6|st||md|4S9654HKJ3DQ873CK9,SKJ8HQT7DAK4C7542,SAQT7H8652D5CJT83,S32HA94DJT962CAQ6|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1S|mb|2D|nt|gosia: how ddi only make 1 ?|pg|| nt|gosia: did|pg|| nt|chorush: I don't know|pg|| mb|3C|nt|gosia: vugraph ?|pg|| mb|p|mb|3S|mb|d|nt|gosia: declarer had 2@s,3@c,2@h & 1 @d ?|pg|| mb|p|nt|chorush: Hamman going to be compelled to try 3NT|pg|| mb|4D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s6|nt|swanson: Hamman violates Hamman's rule.|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|s2|pg|| nt|chorush: and I think he will regret it|pg|| nt|chorush: I think he will go set 3 here|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|c4|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg|| nt|swanson: "If 3NT is a possible contract, bid 3NT."|pg|| pc|sT|pc|c6|pc|s5|pc|s8|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|c2|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|h2|pg|| nt|swanson: I doubt was going to make. Almost everything onside but there is a limit to how many tricks one can take in a 4-4 fit with not very many high cards.|pg|| nt|swanson: 3@S was going to make.|pg|| nt|swanson: I doubt. I'll get this typed correctly eventually.|pg|| nt|chorush: hard to fault East's being unwilling to sell out|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|swanson: I admired his judgment in the orginial pass, but there was no way he could pass 3@S.|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h5|pc|hA|pg|| pc|d2|nt|chorush: John, would you have violated Hamman's rule?|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| mc|7|nt|gosia: rosenberg must have @d q for the cue bid, but here makes no diff|pg|| pg|| qx|o7|st||md|1SKJHJ6D87543C6432,S6432HKTDAJ92CAT8,SAQ9HA7542DQTCQJ5,ST875HQ983DK6CK97|sv|b|nt|kit: Very nice read by declarer, probably worth 3 IMPs|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: South needed to come back a spade, not a club, for the 3-trick set.|pg|| mb|1D!|an|2+!d, 10-15|nt|ahollan1: 1@D=10-15, 2+@D|pg|| mb|d|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|kit: interesting choice to double rather than overcall 1@H.|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cQ|nt|ahollan1: you think swap minor suit Q with @Hx is enough to get meck to overcall?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: or swap @SQ with @Hx|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|cA|pg|| nt|kit: so far an extremely dull set, as opposed to earlier today.|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c5|pc|c9|pc|c4|pg|| nt|kit: 2@S was probably never in jeopardy, but the club lead makes it even easier|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|c6|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hQ|nt|kit: Declarer afraid to touch trumps for fear of a 4-1 trumps split where the opponents draw all of his trumps.|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hT|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s9|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|dT|pc|dK|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 6 [3NW-2] very different auction P-P-1@C-1@S lair ends up in 4@D east|pg|| pc|h8|pc|sJ|pc|d2|mc|8|pg|| qx|c7|st||md|1SKJHJ6D87543C6432,S6432HKTDAJ92CAT8,SAQ9HA7542DQTCQJ5,ST875HQ983DK6CK97|sv|b|nt|swanson: I would have tried 3NT. I'm mystified that Bob did not.|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|swanson: Good hearts, bad spades = 1NT rather than show spades.|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h3|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hT|nt|gosia: C U later for the finale :) |pg|| nt|chorush: this will work out very nicely for Lair.|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h8|pg|| pc|s3|nt|swanson: This board will feel really good for Hamman-Lair. After a string of minus results (which feel bad even when they are par), Lair's good decision to bid 1NT will have stemmed the tide.|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|sK|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|d5|pc|s4|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|c4|pc|s6|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o8|st||md|2SJ63HQJ6DAQ6C9832,SA7HT853DT742CAKQ,SKQ954H9DJ9853CT6,ST82HAK742DKCJ754|sv|o|nt|kit: Super-safe play, costing an overtrick|pg|| nt|ahollan1: another nebulous 1@D please|pg|| mb|1D!|an|21d, 10-15|nt|ahollan1: thank you|pg|| mb|1S|mb|2H|mb|2S|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|s2|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s7|nt|ahollan1: nebulous 1@D = term to describe Precision 1@D @D and @C relative lengths not known when opening is 1@D|pg|| nt|ahollan1: some use nebulous to describe any minor suit opener that "could be short"|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s8|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h9|pc|h2|pc|hJ|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c8|st||md|2SJ63HQJ6DAQ6C9832,SA7HT853DT742CAKQ,SKQ954H9DJ9853CT6,ST82HAK742DKCJ754|sv|o|mb|1D|nt|swanson: 1@S with North; 2@S?|pg|| nt|swanson: I would prefer the pitiful weak jump overcall to 1@S.|pg|| mb|1S|mb|2H|mb|2S|nt|pdlit: if Chip were 25, he would have bid 2S with no hesitation|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|swanson: Most pairs would not play a simple raise to 3@H by West as forcing, so Hamman has to bid game.|pg|| pc|s3|nt|pdlit: 4S would have been a good call|pg|| nt|pdlit: maybe i should retract that statement|pg|| nt|chorush: probably -500, not so good|pg|| nt|pdlit: the handling charge|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s8|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h9|pc|hA|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hJ|pc|h8|pc|s9|pg|| nt|swanson: Sometimes the opponents judge wrong and take the push to the five level. It would not have happened on these cards.|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|c6|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|dK|nt|swanson: Time to steal a diamond.|pg|| pc|dA|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|swanson: Shucks.|pg|| pc|h5|pc|s5|nt|swanson: Note the @D10, as if a finesse was coming, trying to get North to duck.|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o9|st||md|3SAKJT754HQT2DQTCJ,S86HA4DAJ864CQ542,S932HKJ753DK92C96,SQH986D753CAKT873|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 6 where 3N was down 2 4@D was down 3 -- 3 more imps to the leaders|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|nt|kit: Tremendously well-fitting hands, pretty tough to visualize game.|pg|| mb|3H|an|Never showing slam interest|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: But South tries, and gets to the magic game for what might be a 6 IMP pickup.|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i had one call for sonty to open precision 2@C|pg|| nt|kit: North had every card exactly where it is helpful|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|hT|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|h8|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s8|pc|s9|mc|11|pg|| qx|c9|st||md|3SAKJT754HQT2DQTCJ,S86HA4DAJ864CQ542,S932HKJ753DK92C96,SQH986D753CAKT873|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|nt|swanson: South has too much defense to preempt here, I believe.|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|swanson: I could be wrong.|pg|| pc|c2|nt|chorush: It's a matter of style|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cK|pc|cJ|pg|| nt|swanson: Worked very well. It is possible to miss game with the N-S cards.|pg|| nt|chorush: I don't think it is right to bid 4S but I also don't think it's wrong|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| nt|pdlit: if N were uph, then probably not a good preempt|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|h2|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|cA|pc|sA|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o10|st||md|4ST53HQ64DKQ32CT65,SAKJ6HK5D9874CAJ9,S82HAJ872DATCK732,SQ974HT93DJ65CQ84|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N!|an|15-17 vul|nt|ahollan1: vul 1N=15-17|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: But they do better declaring a heart partial than defending 1NT|pg|| mb|p|pc|h7|nt|kit: Don't know what was available for North in their methods|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg|| nt|ahollan1: it took many years of cajoling for berkowitz to convince sontag that 1N always 15-17 wasn't best|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s8|nt|ahollan1: 7 comparisons 7 imps exchanged|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s5|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|cA|mc|6|pg|| qx|c10|st||md|4ST53HQ64DKQ32CT65,SAKJ6HK5D9874CAJ9,S82HAJ872DATCK732,SQ974HT93DJ65CQ84|sv|b|nt|swanson: It was lovely to find all of partner's high cards in the red suits (plus 3 spades).|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h7|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s8|pc|s7|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sK|nt|swanson: Declarer will judge well to reject the club finesse here. Maybe the N-S discard will alert him to the situation.|pg|| pc|c2|pc|s9|pc|sT|pg|| pc|s6|pc|c3|pc|sQ|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|c7|pg|| nt|chorush: speaking of good judgment......|pg|| mc|6|pg|| qx|o11|st||md|1S54HT42DJT98732C3,SAKQHJDAKQ65CAT76,ST976HK98753DCKQ5,SJ832HAQ6D4CJ9842|sv|o|nt|ahollan1: i mistyped EW play same NT ranges as most of the other USA big clubbers 1/2/3nv = 14-16 3v/4 = 15-17|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: Finally an action hand. A good 6@C slam which fails on an unlucky lie of the trump suit. |pg|| mb|1C!|an|16+ unbalanced OR 17+ Balanced|nt|ahollan1: 1@C = 16+unbal or 17+BAL|pg|| mb|2D!|an|One M; !h or !s|mb|d!|mb|p|an|Says nothing|nt|kit: double shows around 5-8 or so I think|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i assume 2@D = @H or @S |pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: outside chance @H & @S but i doubt it|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: in earlier set 1@C-(1@D)-P was described as 0-8 or trap pass|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i extrapolated that to mean DBL = FG, no better bid|pg|| nt|kit: South thinks the opponents have a spade fit, since his partner has 1-suiter in hearts rather than both majors.|pg|| mb|3H|nt|ahollan1: ahhh i'm told earlier hand really was 0-5 so now i'm back on board with Kit|pg|| nt|kit: Best for E-W now would be to double and collect a number|pg|| nt|kit: Which they just might do|pg|| nt|kit: If West doubles (takeout I think) East might well pass|pg|| mb|d!|an|Takeout|nt|ahollan1: not sure how to interpret with sontag's actual holding|pg|| nt|kit: E-W lucky that this interference probably prevents them from finding their club fit.|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: part 1|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Kit you've documented your multi-runouts on bridgewinners doesn't that include PASS over DBL as describing nothing?|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|nt|kit: no|pg|| mb|4H|nt|kit: Now beyond 3NT, but 5@C is okay|pg|| mb|p|an|Dbl here would be "do not lead !h"|nt|kit: West will now try 4@S I guess|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 9 hamman off the schneid with an overtrick imp|pg|| mb|5N|mb|p|nt|kit: oh well|pg|| mb|6C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|dA|pc|c5|mc|11|pg|| qx|c11|st||md|1S54HT42DJT98732C3,SAKQHJDAKQ65CAT76,ST976HK98753DCKQ5,SJ832HAQ6D4CJ9842|sv|o|nt|swanson: We expect no less out of these competitors. Only commentators are allowed to err.|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|nt|swanson: One set of 15 boards remain after these next five deals.|pg|| nt|chorush: Excellent slam doomed here|pg|| mb|1H|mb|d|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|swanson: The winning team will represent the U.S. in the senior teams at the "World Bridge Games", in Poland this fall.|pg|| mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4C|nt|swanson: Hamman has too much for a 1@D opening bid (in theory), but it is so difficult to get both minor suits in the auction after 2@C (not too mnetion the possibility of a spade contract).|pg|| mb|p|nt|pdlit: does 2H have a std expert meaning?|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|5C|nt|swanson: Could North consider a double of 6@C? Possibly, this is a very descriptive auction.|pg|| mb|p|mb|6C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s7|nt|swanson: It would be considered very sporty. The cost if E-W could run to a making 6NT is enormus.|pg|| nt|chorush: and if the opponents had the J and 10 of diamonds, 6NT would make|pg|| pc|s2|nt|swanson: The percentage play is to finesses in clubs, rather than try the ace first. This is if there are no other play factors involved.|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sA|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|c3|pg|| nt|chorush: at matchpoints the questionwould be more interesting|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o12|st||md|2SJT97HT9532DT84C3,SAQ2HAK4DJ92CQ985,SK4H6DAK765CKJT72,S8653HQJ87DQ3CA64|sv|n|nt|jgc: Meck should have discarded to wind Berk up|pg|| mb|1N!|an|14-16|nt|ahollan1: 1N=14-16|pg|| mb|2N!|an|Undiscussed|nt|ahollan1: usually 2N = @C & @D or some huge 2-suiter|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: new one for me - is there a default for meaning of 3@C ? or is system on with 3@C=Stayman 3@D/@H=transfer?|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: i can also imagine 3@C/@D = @H & @S showing which minor stopped|pg|| nt|reisig: Black suit lead is BAD :)|pg|| nt|kit: North will be under a lot of pressure on the run of the hearts|pg|| nt|kit: But still only for down 1, assuming diamond lead.|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 11 Hamman also in 6@C west|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|d2|pg|| nt|kit: North fearing later end-play if he leads a low diamond, leads high.|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Ace asks for attitude|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dQ|pc|dT|pc|d9|pg|| pc|d5|pc|s3|pc|d4|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|h7|pc|hT|pg|| pc|hA|nt|kit: Now no problems for defense. But a small diamond lead would have been okay also, since only end-played once.|pg|| pc|c2|pc|h8|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h4|pc|c7|pc|hJ|pc|h9|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|c5|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s5|nt|kit: Amazingly low scoring let|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg|| pc|d7|pc|s6|pc|h2|pc|s2|pg|| pc|d6|pc|c4|pc|s7|pc|c8|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c12|st||md|2SJT97HT9532DT84C3,SAQ2HAK4DJ92CQ985,SK4H6DAK765CKJT72,S8653HQJ87DQ3CA64|sv|n|mb|1N|nt|chorush: well I am betting it was not passed out in the open room|pg|| mb|2N|mb|d|nt|pdlit: Berkowitz was playing 3n when i looked|pg|| nt|chorush: expected beginning|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|nt|chorush: I play 2NT as being any two suits in a very good hand except the majors|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|nt|swanson: East has a tough decision now. Defense is not appealing for a double, at the vulnerable opponents deserve some respect.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dQ|pc|d8|pc|d9|pg|| pc|d5|nt|swanson: West might have doubled 3@D, but again, North's big 2NT bid, vulnerable has to be respected.|pg|| nt|chorush: chip will suffer one endplay but it will be for down 1|pg|| pc|s3|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h7|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hK|pc|c2|pc|h8|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h4|pc|c7|pc|hJ|pc|h9|pg|| nt|swanson: An advantage here of leading the top diamonds (in addition to the possibilty that E-W is 2-2 in diamonds), is than he avoids an endplay in diamonds.|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hT|pc|s2|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|cT|pg|| pc|c6|mc|8|pg|| qx|o13|st||md|3SK54H7543DT2CQ985,S96HT62DA76CAJT43,SA83HKQJ9DKQJ98CK,SQJT72HA8D543C762|sv|b|mb|1D|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: it is so so strange not to alert meckstroth 1@D openers|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 12 other table also starts 1N-(2N)|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|reisig: Pass is unusual|pg|| pc|s4|nt|kit: Zia found a very unfortunate time to take the low road, with 4@H cold.|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sA|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|cA|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|sK|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c4|pc|s8|pc|c6|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c8|nt|pdlit: following the play, 3n was down 1|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|d8|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h8|pc|h4|pc|h6|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|pdlit: in CR|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i'm not sure what happened with 12 does everyone see PASS OUT as final result?|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d2|nt|kit: no -- West is declaring 3NT|pg|| nt|pdlit: yes, and says same at other table|pg|| pc|dA|pg|| nt|pdlit: West is down 1 in CR|pg|| pc|cT|pc|d9|nt|kit: likely will be down 1 for a push on board 12|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c13|st||md|3SK54H7543DT2CQ985,S96HT62DA76CAJT43,SA83HKQJ9DKQJ98CK,SQJT72HA8D543C762|sv|b|mb|1D|mb|p|nt|chorush: if Rosenberg responds they will be minus|pg|| nt|chorush: I retract that. Miscounted tricks|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|sQ|pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|sA|pg|| pc|dK|nt|swanson: The defense might have been able to force North twice after a spade lead. Declarer would have to go for the immediate pitch, exposing himself in both black suits.|pg|| nt|pdlit: doesn't 4 H have some play?|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dA|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|sK|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d6|pc|dQ|pc|d4|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d5|pc|s5|pc|d7|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg|| nt|swanson: South would have responded holding the @H10 rather than the 7, surely.|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|h4|pc|c4|pc|s8|pg|| pc|s7|pc|c5|nt|swanson: This looks like an early Australian Rules Football game score, so far.|pg|| pc|c3|pc|d8|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c7|nt|swanson: This set, anyway.|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o14|st||md|4S62HAKJ9DT763CK32,ST73HQ8DKQJ2CJT94,SKQ9HT7643DA5CQ76,SAJ854H52D984CA85|sv|o|nt|kit: Operator -- looks like entry error on board 12 open room.|pg|| nt|kit: thanks|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2C!|an|Good !h raise|nt|ahollan1: i think we might be able to rebuild bidding/play of 12|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: South will have to trust his partner's signoff here|pg|| mb|2H!|an|Sign-off; no interest|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: the score on 12 is right, now.|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h8|pg|| nt|kit: Actually there are 10 tricks here -- look at those diamond spots.|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|d5|pg|| nt|kit: Or at least there might be.|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d7|pc|dK|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s7|pc|sQ|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s5|pc|h9|pc|sT|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|h7|pc|s8|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|c4|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cJ|mc|9|pg|| qx|c14|st||md|4S62HAKJ9DT763CK32,ST73HQ8DKQJ2CJT94,SKQ9HT7643DA5CQ76,SAJ854H52D984CA85|sv|o|nt|swanson: Another 'behind' for E-W.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|swanson: Could we possibly have a pass-out?|pg|| mb|1H|mb|1S|nt|pdlit: no|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|swanson: A guide for opening in fourth seat is 'Pearson points': add your number of high cards points to the number of spades. If less than 15, pass.|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h2|nt|swanson: It is a useful guide - but not a 'law'.|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h8|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|h5|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|d5|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|h4|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o15|st||md|1S6H987432DK974CK7,SK82HKJ5DAJ83CT83,SQ9754HAQTDQT62C6,SAJT3H6D5CAQJ9542|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1D!|an|2+!d, 10-15|nt|kit: Last board of set. 3NT or 5@C look okay|pg|| mb|1S|nt|ahollan1: 1@D = 10-15, 2+@D|pg|| mb|2C|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|4C|mb|4H|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c7|pg|| nt|reisig: -200 would be good |pg|| pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|h6|pc|d7|pg|| nt|ahollan1: help -- is it strange that meck played lowest @D instead of some falsecard?|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s8|pc|s4|pg|| nt|ahollan1: at trick 1|pg|| pc|sT|pc|h2|pc|s2|pc|s5|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hT|pc|c4|pg|| mc|9|nt|ahollan1: zia declaring so all makes sense now|pg|| nt|ahollan1: back to sleep Al|pg|| nt|ahollan1: other table finishing board 13|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 15 boards left in the event|pg|| pg|| qx|c15|st||md|1S6H987432DK974CK7,SK82HKJ5DAJ83CT83,SQ9754HAQTDQT62C6,SAJT3H6D5CAQJ9542|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1S|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|swanson: I think we have our first double digist swing here. East will surely declarer 5@C. The danger is slam.|pg|| nt|chorush: I think only 5 imps John. EW were +200 the other way, they could be +400 here|pg|| nt|swanson: Has the vulnerability reversed in my mind - not such a big swing.|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|nt|pdlit: the previous 4 segments were, combined imps, 41, 56, 83, 57; here so far we are 9|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|s6|nt|chorush: I will predict Lair is taking no finesses|pg|| nt|pdlit: except this @s finesse:)|pg|| nt|chorush: ok I should amend that to no unproven finesses|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfh: H to the K is a finesse?|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s3|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c7|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| nt|chorush: technically, yes|pg|| mc|11|nt|chorush: Lair will be happy to see Kx offside, lest slam be bid|pg|| nt|chorush: scheduled restart is about 6:00 local time|pg|| nt|chorush: 20 minutes|pg|| nt|swanson: Thanks to our operator. Thanks Ira.|pg|| nt|chorush: 15-20 minutes|pg|| nt|chorush: 13 imps seems very large when you are behind and insignificant when you are ahead|pg|| nt|pdlit: thanks to Mac, John and Ira and BBO|pg|| nt|swanson: And Peter.|pg|| nt|swanson: So true, Ira. Even 30 doesn't seem all that much (and sometimes isn't),|pg|| pg||