vg|D 2016 USBC QF,Segment 7 of 8,I,1,15,Nickell,154,Fleisher,186| rs|4CE=,4HE-2,3NS+1,5CN=,3NW=,3NW=,2SS+1,4SS=,5DN-2,5DN=,2SS+1,2SS=,6HN=,4HN+2,6HW+1,6SSx-5,4SN+2,4SN+2,4HN-1,4HN-1,2SW-1,3CN-1,4SWx-2,3SE-1,5DE+1,3NE+1,2SE=,3SE-1,3NN=,3NN=| pn|Levin,Fleisher,Weinstein,Martel,Moss,Rodwell,Grue,Meckstroth|pg|| qx|o1|st||md|3S98H832DAKJT53CT4,ST2HAJT954DQ2CJ73,SK7653HQ6D864CA96,SAQJ4HK7D97CKQ852|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfc: Fleisher: sorry if I didn't bid enough|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|d7|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dQ|pc|d6|pc|d9|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h7|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|s8|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s7|pc|sQ|pc|s9|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|c6|pg|| nt|kit: hi everybody|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: Welcome Kit|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|h2|pc|c7|pc|s5|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|cT|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|h8|mc|10|pg|| qx|c1|st||md|3S98H832DAKJT53CT4,ST2HAJT954DQ2CJ73,SK7653HQ6D864CA96,SAQJ4HK7D97CKQ852|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|d7|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dQ|pc|d6|pc|d9|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s2|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h3|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s9|pc|sT|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o2|st||md|4SQ543HJTDAKQCQJT7,SAT98HA864D932C63,SKHKQ75D64CK98542,SJ762H932DJT875CA|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3C|nt|kit: 5C make in open room after unfortunate but normal enough diamond lead|pg|| mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|nt|kit: Maybe West should be doubling 5@C to steer partner towards a spade lead?|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: Opening lead important hear -- spade lead can beat the contract|pg|| pc|s9|nt|kit: And there it is. East will win ace of clubs, put jack of spades through, and down 1.|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s5|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|cT|pc|c6|pg|| nt|kit: This should be pretty easy I would think. South known to have 4 spades, and partner wouldn't be wasting a spade spot on lead.|pg|| nt|kit: Also weird play of king of clubs pretty much a tipoff on the club suit running.|pg|| nt|kit: 9 of spades Rusinow -- 10, might or might not have higher honor.|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|d9|nt|kit: Diamond shift needs quite a parlay to be right|pg|| pc|d4|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c2|nt|kit: And a missed opportunity for Fleisher to extend lead.|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: Levin claims saying he will get a trick at the end if W has both missing aces.|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c2|st||md|4SQ543HJTDAKQCQJT7,SAT98HA864D932C63,SKHKQ75D64CK98542,SJ762H932DJT875CA|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3D|nt|ahollan1: NS vul & 4th 1N = 15-17|pg|| mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: grue-moss play 2 systems nv:1/2/3 Precision vul & 4th 2/1 Relay|pg|| mb|5C|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: the other 3 QuarterFinal matches all 80 imp spread|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|dJ|nt|medwards: Well this wasnot expected|pg|| nt|ahollan1: http://usbf.org/docs/vugraphs/USBC2016/Bracket.php?stage=Roundof8|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|medwards: But the lead do not turn out to be the best |pg|| pc|d2|pc|d4|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|d8|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|sK|pc|d5|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c2|nt|medwards: did|pg|| pc|cA|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o3|st||md|1S963HQJ7D9874CJ73,SQT84HA932DKJCQT4,SAKJ7HT85DT653CK2,S52HK64DAQ2CA9865|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1C|an|2+ clubs|mb|d|mb|r|nt|kit: This should be pretty flat unless something strange happens.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfc: Fleisher asks about leads. Levin: "I am going to write it down bec I know you will ask me many times Fleisher: you are right I will, and I may lose the paper|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: short break|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: at this stage each table is in a separate hotel room (sleeping rooms with the beds removed)|pg|| pc|sA|nt|Vugraphzfc: back|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s4|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: Nick would like this trick, says Weinstein [because it is a wish trick -- ace,2,3,4 on one trick]|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dQ|pc|d9|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|cK|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|c7|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|d4|pg|| pc|c4|mc|9|pg|| qx|c3|st||md|1S963HQJ7D9874CJ73,SQT84HA932DKJCQT4,SAKJ7HT85DT653CK2,S52HK64DAQ2CA9865|sv|e|nt|medwards: 3NT also depended on a spade lead|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D!|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H!|mb|p|mb|2S!|nt|ahollan1: 1 martel-fleisher playing 4@C|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@D = 10-15, 2+@D|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@C = 4+@C, F1|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@H = BAL, 11-13|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@S forces 2N|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|s4|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@C not 4@H/@S unless FG 6+@C|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dK|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|c3|pg|| nt|ahollan1: @S9 at trick 1 gives Rodwell some breathing room|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c7|pg|| nt|ahollan1: and @CK in north even more |pg|| pc|c9|pc|cJ|pc|c4|pc|d3|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|s5|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i thought he would duck @CK|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o4|st||md|2SKQJT5HK62DAQ5CK3,S973HJT743D82C952,S82H9DKT63CQT8764,SA64HAQ85DJ974CAJ|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|d|nt|kit: N-S did quite well to bid and make 4@S in other room|pg|| mb|r|an|one suit, I think|mb|p|mb|2C!|an|forced|mb|d|an|takeout|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d8|nt|Vugraphzfc: Weinstein thought his pass over XX showed values. Levin didn't think so|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|d5|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h7|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|s8|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s9|pc|c4|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|c9|pc|c6|pc|h5|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|d7|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|c5|pc|d6|pc|d9|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|cJ|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c4|st||md|2SKQJT5HK62DAQ5CK3,S973HJT743D82C952,S82H9DKT63CQT8764,SA64HAQ85DJ974CAJ|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|an|15-17|nt|ahollan1: EW 1N 1/2/3:nv 14-16 3v/4 15-17|pg|| mb|d|mb|2H|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: seems that like meckwel moss-grue treating all 3rd seat 1N as weak|pg|| nt|ahollan1: so DBL= penalty|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|d|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hT|nt|ahollan1: 2 [5@CN+600] levin playing 3N|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| nt|ahollan1: @s9 lead but martel did not continue @S when in with @CK|pg|| nt|ahollan1: so both EW pairs had chance for plus score but decline the opportunity|pg|| nt|Vugraphzff: Hello folks - Live video feed from this room is mistitled as Fleisher v. Schwartz. Here is the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZXgZbnlxOs|pg|| nt|ahollan1: thanks Julie|pg|| nt|ahollan1: duh just realized why Rodwell did NOT duck @CK on 3 there was chance that south started with @CJ doubleton and if north started @CKJxx then had to lose a trick anyway|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d3|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h4|pc|s2|pc|h5|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|s3|pg|| nt|ahollan1: even if original @CK doubleton south wins @CJ but @SQT8 a sure stopper|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s7|pc|c4|pc|sA|pg|| nt|ahollan1: now i can try to think about board 4|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|d8|pc|d6|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s9|pc|c6|pc|s4|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|c7|pc|cA|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o5|st||md|3SJ9HK75D8542CAJ43,ST72HQJT84DA76CQ9,SKQ64HDKQJT3CKT75,SA853HA9632D9C862|sv|n|nt|Vugraphzfc: Levin: We got lucky; that's all we can make|pg|| mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|2D|mb|4H|mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|nt|Vugraphzfc: Levin: Sorry, partner;once of the worst dummies ever|pg|| nt|kit: This trick doesn't really help declarer -- he will still have to get the clubs right unless something happens in spades.|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d9|pc|d2|pc|d6|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|s2|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|c5|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|dT|pc|h3|pg|| pc|dK|pc|h9|pc|d4|pc|dA|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dJ|pc|h2|pc|d5|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sA|nt|kit: If declarer could play another trump conveniently East would be in a show-up squeeze, but entries wrong for that.|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s5|pc|c3|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|kit: And now must guess, and likely will guess wrong if he has the count right.|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s8|pc|d8|pc|hT|pg|| nt|kit: and will then go down 2.|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c5|st||md|3SJ9HK75D8542CAJ43,ST72HQJT84DA76CQ9,SKQ64HDKQJT3CKT75,SA853HA9632D9C862|sv|n|mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|3D|mb|4H|mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|hT|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d9|pc|d2|nt|ahollan1: i think 1@d can be 3-cards only if exactly 4432 that might help explain 3@D rather than 1N|pg|| nt|ahollan1: EW carding usually reverse everything attitude, count, smith, suit preference|pg|| nt|ahollan1: not sure but not sure what @H10 means at trick 1 when declarer known to be void|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i'm pretty sure std signal at trick 1 after King lead - not sure if that also applies to Ace lead|pg|| nt|ahollan1: but as mentioned since Rod knows declarer will ruff - that may change the rules|pg|| nt|ahollan1: seems to me auction would be same regardless of which defender holds @CQ|pg|| pc|d6|pg|| pc|dK|pc|h2|pc|d4|pc|dA|pg|| pc|s2|mc|11|pg|| qx|o6|st||md|4S9532HJ932DKQ2CK5,SA8HAQ874DJ53CT43,SQ764H6DAT6CAJ972,SKJTHKT5D9874CQ86|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|2D!|an|good heart raise|mb|2S|nt|kit: 2@S by South, and that will probably buy it|pg|| nt|kit: 2@D is good heart raise|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|s2|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|d7|pc|dK|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|c8|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|s5|pc|c4|pg|| nt|kit: With clubs 3-3, declarer probably won't touch spades -- just give 3 trump tricks.|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s8|nt|kit: so much for that.|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg|| nt|kit: now will make an overtrick|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c6|st||md|4S9532HJ932DKQ2CK5,SA8HAQ874DJ53CT43,SQ764H6DAT6CAJ972,SKJTHKT5D9874CQ86|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|nt|ahollan1: @S into dummy's J9 looked extremely dangerous i wonder what Rodwell was playing for|pg|| mb|d|mb|2D!|an|good !h raise|nt|ahollan1: 1@H = 10-15 3rd seat maybe good 4-card suit|pg|| nt|jgc: Rodwell should have returned a red card - he should have known declarer's precise shape.|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@D = good raise|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c3|nt|ahollan1: 4 [4@SS=] Levin playing 2@S|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|h6|nt|ahollan1: well i looked at movie Meck's @H2 on 2nd round of @D was reverse suit pref so it did suggest @S|pg|| pc|hT|pg|| pc|d9|nt|ahollan1: maybe Meck needed to be less specific about his preference|pg|| nt|jgc: But the spade cannot go away so no need to play it - meck could not have 5@S |pg|| nt|ahollan1: i believe when discard shows such strong preference you need GOOD reason to do something else - not just suspicion|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d6|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|s4|pc|h5|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h8|pc|s6|pc|hK|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d2|pc|d3|pg|| nt|jgc: It's not just a suspicion - meck showed up with 1@D and cannot have 5@S so decl is 4=0=5=4 precisely|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c5|pc|c4|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|s5|pc|cT|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg|| pc|d8|mc|8|nt|ahollan1: John - you are counting and reasoning -- is that allowed?|pg|| pg|| qx|o7|st||md|1S54HA763DJT64CAQ5,SJT32H85DQ7CKT764,SAKQ976HKJT92DKC8,S8HQ4DA98532CJ932|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: Here is possible slam |pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|nt|kit: But with South a passed hand, unlikely North will be thinking slam.|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3C!|mb|p|mb|3D|an|artificial |mb|p|mb|4H!|mb|p|nt|kit: I think 3@C has multi meanings, 3@D asks, and I guess 4@H 6-5.|pg|| mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5H|mb|p|mb|6H|nt|kit: Now, clearly down in match, good time to shoot out slam off queen 4th of trumps and and ace|pg|| nt|kit: and so he does|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfc: 3@H rebid would have been 5-5 in Majors, so Weinstein says "I have better than that"|pg|| pc|dA|nt|Vugraphzfc: Fleisher steps away a minute and Levin offer to defend for him|pg|| nt|kit: so it is all down to the heart suit, with not much to go on.|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|dK|pg|| nt|kit: If he happens to play the king first, no problems|pg|| nt|kit: But if he plays the ace first .........|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h8|nt|kit: uh oh -- now down to guess|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: Weinstein said I used to have a rule for these things, but I can't remember it Levin: Either you led to the right hand or you didn't|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: Weinstein: I think with two singletons I play for the drop, |pg|| pc|hK|pc|hQ|pg|| mc|12|nt|Vugraphzfc: Bobby says "hi mom"|pg|| pg|| qx|c7|st||md|1S54HA763DJT64CAQ5,SJT32H85DQ7CKT764,SAKQ976HKJT92DKC8,S8HQ4DA98532CJ932|sv|b|nt|jgc: At my age, any help I can get.|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 4 2@S made for another 11 to Fleisher|pg|| nt|ahollan1: same statement for me but replace age with weight|pg|| nt|jgc: C'mon you're as slim as ever|pg|| nt|ahollan1: only in 1 toe|pg|| nt|jgc: Should I ask which toe?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: this is segment 7 of 8|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1 last 15 board segment to play after this|pg|| nt|jgc: Ach, ok, back to bridge|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|medwards: Possible slam|pg|| nt|ahollan1: presumably winner of our match meets Coren in the SemiFinal|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: NS 2/1 Relay in this situation|pg|| mb|4C|an|slam try in !h|mb|d|mb|4H|nt|ahollan1: well pre-gloat strikes thru 6 Gordon 38-0 set now trailing Coren by only 38|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: not sure of exact agreement for NS but 4@H seems strange with 2nd round @C control AND 2nd round @D control|pg|| nt|ahollan1: ashamed of his jump shift??|pg|| nt|ahollan1: thought Moss would open his actual hand??|pg|| nt|jgc: Maybe 4@H over 1NT better description|pg|| nt|ahollan1: yes i know this is 2/1 Relay if Precision colors 1@D would be AUTOMATIC|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|jgc: Wayne Stuart suggests 4@H might be 5=6|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c8|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h8|pg|| nt|ahollan1: oh 4@C non-specific about control -- in that case even more confused by the 4@H signoff|pg|| mc|12|nt|ahollan1: should have mis-guessed @H to justify auction|pg|| pg|| qx|o8|st||md|2SKT3HJT9DJTC76543,S2HQ8762D963CAKQ9,SQJ754HDKQ87542CJ,SA986HAK543DACT82|sv|o|mb|1H|mb|2H|nt|Vugraphzfc: Fleisher is surprised that the table is streaming live with a mic. I said "I told you last segment." Fleisher: "As my wife will tell you, I only listen when I ask"|pg|| nt|kit: more excitement. E-W have a grand, N-S have a decent save against anytihing |pg|| mb|3D!|an|best heart raise|nt|kit: If East had spllintered, West would have known what to do.|pg|| mb|3S|nt|Vugraphzfc: Levin just handed me his hand to check to be sure it was his and not Fleisher's. They were talking and got confused about whose hand was whose a first?|pg|| mb|4C|mb|4D|mb|4S!|an|KC I think|mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|mb|5S|mb|p|mb|6H|nt|kit: 4@S RKC. 5@S asks for specific kings. But that won't be good enough for sure|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: Now this I don't understand -- why didn't West show king of clubs?|pg|| mb|p|pc|dK|nt|kit: Assuming I'm right about the meanings of the bids, I strongly think West isn't supposed to hold back just because he doesn't like his hand. Who knows how big East is.|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dJ|pc|d3|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hJ|pc|h2|pc|d5|pg|| nt|kit: With hearts 3-0 will need to pick up clubs, but of course that will be no problem.|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|h6|pc|d2|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|s4|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cJ|mc|13|nt|Vugraphzfc: Martel: You just bid your hand, you don't need to....|pg|| pg|| qx|c8|st||md|2SKT3HJT9DJTC76543,S2HQ8762D963CAKQ9,SQJ754HDKQ87542CJ,SA986HAK543DACT82|sv|o|nt|jgc: Yes joe's bidding seems weird with a 4-loser|pg|| mb|1H|nt|ahollan1: Great Shuffler having fun today|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@H = 10-15|pg|| mb|2H|mb|2N!|an|LR+ in !h|nt|ahollan1: 2N = 4+fit, INV+|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i think|pg|| mb|3S|mb|4H|nt|ahollan1: found a note only guarantees 3+fit|pg|| mb|4S|mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5D|nt|ahollan1: RKC[0314]|pg|| mb|6S|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: interesting ploy 4@S then 6@S|pg|| nt|jgc: Grue seems a little discombobulated|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: just guessing Meck PASS over 6@S = 1st round control of @S and invites Rod to bid 7 just like old textbooks|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|nt|ahollan1: DBL = can't see 7@H in my hand|pg|| nt|ahollan1: NS did VERY well here|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|ahollan1: i think Julie waiting for both screenmates to act before she enters bids so pause does NOT identify who is thinking|pg|| nt|jgc: Not so well, Al, 7@D might hve been better|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c7|pg|| pc|h6|pc|s4|pc|h3|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|dJ|pc|d9|pg|| nt|ahollan1: yeah :( and then 6@H making scores less than the save|pg|| nt|jgc: They will tap him silly|pg|| nt|medwards: Probebly would have bid 7 spades over 7 hearts.|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hT|pc|h2|pc|s5|pg|| nt|ahollan1: was just thinking about success of keeping EW out of their making grand -- damn blinders|pg|| pc|dK|nt|ahollan1: 7 Weinstein in 6@H|pg|| pc|s6|pc|dT|pc|d6|pg|| nt|ahollan1: needs to find trump Q|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c6|pc|c9|pc|s7|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|jgc: That was apparently too difficult for Sontag -17 IMPs|pg|| pc|s8|nt|ahollan1: but i bet Sonty went down quickly|pg|| nt|jgc: No doubt|pg|| nt|ahollan1: for the specs Alan Sontag is one of the fastest declarers in the world|pg|| nt|jgc: Rodwell scores @S2 next?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 6@H did make on 7|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 7 boards 43 imps exchanged|pg|| nt|ahollan1: and 3 was a push that could have been 12 imps for either side |pg|| nt|ahollan1: oh 44 imps :)|pg|| nt|ahollan1: my sliderule is a bit dusty|pg|| pc|sT|pc|d3|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|sJ|pc|c8|pg|| pc|d4|pc|h4|nt|jgc: How mny these days even know what a slide rule is, Al?|pg|| pc|h9|nt|ahollan1: i'm going to guess that less than 10% of specs even know what a sliderule is -- and only 10% of them will recognize attempt at humor|pg|| nt|jgc: Maybe you ought to explain for the millennials|pg|| pc|s2|pg|| pc|h7|nt|ahollan1: that's why god invented google search :)|pg|| nt|jgc: In the 1960s, a slide rule was state-of-the-art technology, slightly ahead of the abacus, before the invention of electronic calculators|pg|| pc|d5|pc|hA|pc|s3|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o9|st||md|3SAQ93H9843DA43CQ8,STHQT52DJ975CK764,SK8765H7DKQ6CAJ93,SJ42HAKJ6DT82CT52|sv|e|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2N!|mb|p|mb|3C!|mb|p|nt|kit: Levin will likely find out about stiff heart, but still slam is a way away from his point of view.|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|nt|kit: 3@C is a minimum, and Levin didn't even try opposite that.|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|h7|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|sT|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hQ|pc|s8|pc|h6|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|hT|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d8|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c5|pc|c8|pc|c4|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cT|mc|12|nt|Vugraphzfc: a break now|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: we are back|pg|| pg|| qx|c9|st||md|3SAQ93H9843DA43CQ8,STHQT52DJ975CK764,SK8765H7DKQ6CAJ93,SJ42HAKJ6DT82CT52|sv|e|nt|ahollan1: my sliderule cost more than calculaters do now|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@S = 10-15|pg|| mb|3D!|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: fleisher-martel in 6@H on 8 but Levin in the tank|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|pc|h3|nt|jgc: Gordon was on a big run against Coren but just lost 2 huge swings|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h7|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|sT|pc|s5|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c5|pc|c8|pc|c4|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|s3|pc|c6|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o10|st||md|4SAQ85HQ863D86CA54,SKJ742HJ7DJT3C873,S96HAK942DKQCT962,ST3HT5DA97542CKQJ|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|2D|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|kit: 4@H basically on a spade hook.|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: And is a pretty normal contract to reach.|pg|| pc|cK|nt|kit: Note that declarer will play queen of hearts first, as can pick up J10xx in West hand but not in East hand.|pg|| nt|kit: Here declarer almost knows spade finesse is off since East didn't open and appears to have KQ of clubs and ace of diamonds|pg|| nt|kit: But not much he can do about it that I can see.|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c2|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h7|pc|h2|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|hT|pg|| nt|kit: I guess he will try to steal queen of diamonds and hope for some end-play after that.|pg|| pc|cT|nt|kit: But really nothing figures to have much chance.|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c4|pc|c7|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|c9|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: Weinstein: I'm down to needing Chip to have forgot to open the bidding|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c10|st||md|4SAQ85HQ863D86CA54,SKJ742HJ7DJT3C873,S96HAK942DKQCT962,ST3HT5DA97542CKQJ|sv|b|mb|1D|mb|d|mb|1H!|an|!s|nt|ahollan1: NS have 2 CCs the 2/1 card defines 3M-2 response as preemptive raise but the Precision CC doesn't mention the bid but 1@S-3@D-4@S sure says some other meaning|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@C = 10-15, 2+@D|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: over the DBL 1@H = 4+@S|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzff: On last board - 3@d was good 1-4 raise or light GF with 4 trump|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 8 Fleisher 6@H+1 for 3 imp gain|pg|| pc|cK|nt|ahollan1: thx Julie|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c2|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hT|pc|h6|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|c4|pc|c7|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o11|st||md|1S532HKQ872DA983C7,SAKJ4H943DJ65CT53,ST97HTDKQTCAQ8642,SQ86HAJ65D742CKJ9|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|2C|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hT|nt|Vugraphzfc: Martel: I have good support for everyone|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h4|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|s9|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sT|pc|s8|pc|s3|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|c7|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|c2|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|c4|pc|h6|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|c11|st||md|1S532HKQ872DA983C7,SAKJ4H943DJ65CT53,ST97HTDKQTCAQ8642,SQ86HAJ65D742CKJ9|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2C|an|precision|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d2|nt|smsj: an inelegant little contract|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@C = 10-15, 6+@C|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@H NF|pg|| pc|d9|nt|ahollan1: 3@C not 4+@S, probably 0/1@H|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dK|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h9|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|s2|pc|c3|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| pc|d8|mc|8|pg|| qx|o12|st||md|2S7HKQ83DQJT63CAT6,SA963HA9D742CQJ42,SK2HT7642DKCK8753,SQJT854HJ5DA985C9|sv|n|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H|an|4+ spades|mb|d|an|takeout with 4+ diamonds|nt|kit: 1@H is 4+ spades|pg|| mb|2S|an|4 spades|nt|kit: 2@S minimal 4-card raise|pg|| mb|4H|nt|kit: North will likely compete to 3@H, and then East to 3@S|pg|| mb|4S|nt|kit: Well, I had it right except for the level|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|nt|kit: Chance for decent pickup if N-S double|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: 4@H could be defeated with club ruff|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d4|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s7|pc|s3|pc|sK|pg|| nt|kit: This lead will simplify the defense, although down 2 looks pretty clear anyway.|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|d3|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c3|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d2|pc|h6|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d7|mc|8|pg|| qx|c12|st||md|2S7HKQ83DQJT63CAT6,SA963HA9D742CQJ42,SK2HT7642DKCK8753,SQJT854HJ5DA985C9|sv|n|mb|1D!|nt|ahollan1: 1@D still 10-15, 2+@D|pg|| nt|smsj: Kranyak-Demuy beat that contract 3 played from the S side|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|nt|ahollan1: 1@S = not 4+@H unless FG|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|nt|ahollan1: 2@S = 4-fit min|pg|| mb|p|mb|3C!|nt|ahollan1: 3@C short suit game try??|pg|| mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dJ|nt|ahollan1: i've never seen them use game try auction :)|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| nt|smsj: I've never seen Rodwell reject one|pg|| nt|jgc: They only do it when most players would pass|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s7|pc|s3|pc|sK|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|d6|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h2|nt|ahollan1: i'm told at one time 3@C was the ONLY game try -- that could still be the case I just don't know|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hK|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d4|pc|c3|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d7|pc|h6|pc|d8|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o13|st||md|3SKQTHJT754DCAQT73,S8762HA983DKJ98C4,S9543HQ62D54CJ985,SAJHKDAQT7632CK62|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1D|nt|Vugraphzfc: bd is backwards (reversed NS), so N is Levin, etc.|pg|| mb|2N|mb|d|an|like a neg double of hearts|nt|ahollan4: knowing 1@D usually 5+@D and unbal do you start with DBL or some number of @D?|pg|| nt|kit: I think double shows interest in defending, which West doesn't have.|pg|| mb|3H|mb|4D|nt|kit: Even with lnger clubs, North bids hearts more for the lead|pg|| nt|kit: Apparently the double of 2NT means something else.|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: Pretty tough to figure out to get to slam here, with stiff king of hearts the key card.|pg|| nt|kit: I hope West isn't thinking of passing|pg|| mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan4: neither EW pair shines on this hand|pg|| nt|kit: Yes, West might have done more than bid 5@D with great diamond support, and ace, a singleton|pg|| nt|ahollan4: Kit after big club start in other room do you play 3@D as forcing? 1@C:str-(2@H:@H+other)-DBL-(P)//-?|pg|| nt|kit: yes|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|hK|pg|| pc|d2|pc|h5|pc|dJ|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d5|pc|d6|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c13|st||md|3SKQTHJT754DCAQT73,S8762HA983DKJ98C4,S9543HQ62D54CJ985,SAJHKDAQT7632CK62|sv|b|nt|smsj: yes it looks bad to go down in a part score when you made a game try, but switch Rodwell's @C and @D holdings|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C!|nt|ahollan1: 1@C = 16+ unbal or 17+ BAL|pg|| nt|jgc: I think you are right Al, I remember that as well|pg|| mb|2H!|an|2-suiter w !h|mb|d!|an|6-7|nt|ahollan1: not sure what NS do over str 1@C|pg|| nt|smsj: Moss has a pretty fair hand himself|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: i think DBL = 5-7 but maybe different minimum at 2level|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: Julie is rocking with getting explanations of alerts|pg|| nt|Vugraphzff: Young eyes :)|pg|| nt|jgc: No sniff at slam|pg|| nt|ahollan1: ahh 6-7 filling in so many gaps in notes with Julie at the helm|pg|| nt|Vugraphzff: (their big handwriting is also helpful)|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg|| pc|d6|nt|ahollan1: either it is really the young eyes or they were using smaller print when i was operator during 2014 trials|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o14|st||md|4SK4HJT7DAT7532C87,S6HAQ932DK984CQ64,SA92HK654DJCAT953,SQJT8753H8DQ6CKJ2|sv|o|nt|Vugraphzfc: again, the board is reversed NS, so the players positions are reversed|pg|| mb|2S|nt|ahollan4: 2 and 13 show just 1 imp and push - but oh what could have been|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: this is good weak 2 -- multi with bad weak 2|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan4: nv: 8-11|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: Opened 3@S in other room -- did better here.|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hA|nt|ahollan4: i can hear the cries --- but he has 7@S|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h8|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s4|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: Fleisher showed his handto Levin and they decide making two|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c14|st||md|4SK4HJT7DAT7532C87,S6HAQ932DK984CQ64,SA92HK654DJCAT953,SQJT8753H8DQ6CKJ2|sv|o|nt|ahollan1: that wasn't a huge system success for meckwell|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: other table is on board 10|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h8|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pg|| nt|ahollan1: browser bbo users click on name of table/event for popup that includes the bbo schedule for our event - calculated to viewer's timezone|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c4|nt|jgc: Meck and Grue are generlly fast as lightning, Rd and Brad more deliberate|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cK|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg|| nt|smsj: Meck has slowed down some though|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d8|pc|s9|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|jgc: Yep, age catches up to all|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o15|st||md|1SJ764HJT3DAQ92CAT,SAT53HK962D3C9632,SK82HA85DKT4CQJ75,SQ9HQ74DJ8765CK84|sv|n|nt|Vugraphzfc: and for the third hand in a row (new record) the board is reversed on the table NS|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c4|nt|ahollan4: both NS pairs playing 1m-2N as FG -- that's a new record too [for this millenium]|pg|| nt|ahollan4: last board of the penultimate set|pg|| nt|ahollan4: final 15 segment begins in 16 min|pg|| nt|kit: Declarer may take 4 diamonds, 1 spade, 1 heart, 3 clubs -- but he has to get them all.|pg|| nt|ahollan4: official scores posted to http://usbf.org/docs/vugraphs/USBC2016/Bracket.php?stage=Roundof8|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: so Levin is really playing this, and Fleisher led the club 4|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c2|pc|c7|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|s8|pc|s9|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c5|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|sK|nt|kit: This was not a great start for declarer|pg|| pc|sQ|pg|| nt|kit: But now things are brighter -- he can knock out the club, and will eventually get 4 diamonds|pg|| nt|kit: Note -- when he plays diamonds, he must play 10 of diamonds to an honor on first round to unblock the suit.|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|h3|pc|c6|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dT|pg|| pc|s2|pc|d8|mc|9|nt|ahollan4: restart in about 8 min|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: es|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: back soon for the final segment of these quarter final matches|pg|| pg|| qx|c15|st||md|1SJ764HJT3DAQ92CAT,SAT53HK962D3C9632,SK82HA85DKT4CQJ75,SQ9HQ74DJ8765CK84|sv|n|nt|ahollan1: this is it for our table - 15 more boards to follow to identify SemiFinalist|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: Julie did another GREAT JOB|pg|| mb|2N!|an|forcing|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2N = FG|pg|| nt|Vugraphzff: Thanks all - back at 6:10 mst for Segment 8 of 8|pg|| nt|jgc: In the other matches, Diamond, Coren and Fireman have big leads|pg|| nt|ahollan1: that means restart in about 40 minutes|pg|| pc|d6|nt|ahollan1: official scores get posted to http://usbf.org/docs/vugraphs/USBC2016/Bracket.php?stage=Roundof8|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dT|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c8|pc|cT|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|c4|pg|| nt|ahollan1: after this hand is over, some of us will head over to open room they are on board 11|pg|| pc|d9|nt|ahollan1: grue-moss have had another nice set even with missing that 6@H slam|pg|| nt|ahollan1: but neither pair made it easy for the opponents|pg|| pc|c6|pc|dK|pc|d5|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|s4|pc|c9|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dQ|nt|ahollan1: 12 fleisher in 4@SX where meckstroth 3@S-1|pg|| nt|ahollan1: levin-weinstein were in 4@H able to get into auction easily after transfer response to 1@C|pg|| nt|ahollan1: all tables play same set of boards, so cannot restart until ALL tables ready|pg|| pc|s3|pc|d4|pg|| pc|dA|pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|s9|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|h7|pc|h3|pc|h6|pg|| mc|9|nt|ahollan1: restrart in 25 min|pg|| pg||