vg|BBO2 2015 EYBC - Juniors Teams,RR3_17,I,1,20,WALES,0,NETHERLANDS,0| rs|3NS=,3NS+2,3HEx-1,3HE-2,4HN-1,4HS-2,5SWx=,6HS-2,4HW-1,3HW=,1NW+1,3CW-1,4HWx-4,4NS+1,4SW=,3SW+1,PASS,PASS,2SE=,2NS+2,5SN=,4SN+1,7SNx-4,2SNxx+1,3NE=,4NE-2,4HS-1,4HS-2,4NN+1,5CN=,4HN+2,6HN=,4SN-1,4SN-1,3CE=,4CE-2,2DS+1,2NS+2,4SEx-2,4HN+1| pn|BARRETT,C WESTERBE,RICHARDS,R WESTERBE,VAN ENGELE,GREENER,VERBEEK,SMART|pg|| qx|o1|st||md|3SAJTHAT98DAK54CAK,SQ862HQJ3DQ986C43,SK954H75DJ2CQT975,S73HK642DT73CJ862|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|s7|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c7|pc|c6|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|h2|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s8|pc|sK|pc|h4|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c8|pc|h8|pc|d6|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c1|st||md|3SAJTHAT98DAK54CAK,SQ862HQJ3DQ986C43,SK954H75DJ2CQT975,S73HK642DT73CJ862|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3C!|mb|p|mb|3D!|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d6|pc|dJ|pc|d3|pc|d4|pg|| nt|vugraphzbc: running scores|pg|| nt|vugraphzbc: http://www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/15Tromsoyouth/microsite/Results.htm|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|cK|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|c2|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|h2|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c8|pc|d5|pc|s8|pg|| pc|s9|pc|d7|pc|h8|pc|d8|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|hT|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d2|pc|dT|pc|dK|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dQ|pc|h7|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|c9|pc|hK|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pg|| pg|| qx|o2|st||md|4SA2HQT85DA63C6532,SK843H763DJT87CKJ,SQ96HDKQ954CAT987,SJT75HAKJ942D2CQ4|sv|n|mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|2N!|an|minors|mb|3H|nt|adriaantje: hi all|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|nt|adriaantje: 2@C 10-13 with majors|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|adriaantje: 2NT minors, appearently|pg|| nt|vugraphzar: alerted as minors by north|pg|| pc|c2|nt|adriaantje: this could be quite a reasonable score for Wales, as 3@H could be 300 with no game making for NS|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|h3|pc|d4|pg|| nt|vankan: EW have 6 losers, I don't see a way declarer could get out of that|pg|| nt|adriaantje: although you might be able to make 3NT in NS if you guess the @D really well (but even then 9 tricks are not there yet)|pg|| nt|adriaantje: hi Jos|pg|| nt|vankan: Hi Adriaan|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d5|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|h2|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s2|nt|adriaantje: spec suggests 5@C for NS, indeed that does look like a good game. missed that one|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s9|pc|s5|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|h4|pc|d6|pg|| pc|sT|nt|adriaantje: still not easy to reach|pg|| pc|h5|pc|s4|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|c5|pc|h7|pc|c8|pc|s7|pg|| pc|h6|pc|c9|nt|vankan: :) |pg|| pc|hK|pc|hT|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|dT|pc|cT|pg|| pc|c6|pc|s8|pc|dK|pc|h9|pg|| pg|| qx|c2|st||md|4SA2HQT85DA63C6532,SK843H763DJT87CKJ,SQ96HDKQ954CAT987,SJT75HAKJ942D2CQ4|sv|n|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|Rodal F: Hi Leif Erik and all nice specs. Will try to do my best.|pg|| mb|2N!|mb|3H|nt|Rodal F: Will EW pressNS to there top contract?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| nt|Rodal F: A possible gain for Wales.|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg|| nt|Rodal F: Don't know what you would done over 3@H Leif Erik?|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d5|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|h2|pg|| nt|vugraphzbc: Partner doesn't enter 2NT on rubbish at this vulnerability. I wouldn't pass, but maybe try to push them?|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|d4|pg|| nt|vugraphzbc: Do you just slam 5@C down?|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s2|nt|vugraphzbc: His void in@H is hardly surprising|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|sJ|nt|Rodal F: Might a safe X, but 5@C the second choice|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| pc|dK|pc|h4|pc|d3|pc|dT|pg|| pc|s7|pc|h8|pc|s8|pc|c7|pg|| nt|Rodal F: Void in @H are not any surprice for S here:)|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|c8|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|h9|pc|hT|pg|| mc|7|nt|vugraphzbc: Pass is much too passive anyway|pg|| nt|Rodal F: Y.|pg|| pg|| qx|o3|st||md|1S432HAKJ9DAJ4CA94,SAQ987HQ764DT6CT5,SJH8532DQ75CKQ876,SKT65HTDK9832CJ32|sv|e|nt|adriaantje: in that confusion EW appearantly only down 1, but I missed how he got rid of one of those losers|pg|| nt|vugraphzar: South ruffed the third spade|pg|| mb|1C!|mb|1S|mb|2C|nt|adriaantje: ah, that's an odd thing to do|pg|| nt|vankan: He shortened himself and S was endplayed when he ruffed a @s|pg|| mb|2N!|nt|vugraphzar: No endplay|pg|| nt|adriaantje: there was no endplay, he could exit with @C without giving up a trick|pg|| nt|vugraphzar: He ruffed his partners winner in front of him|pg|| mb|d|mb|3S|nt|adriaantje: it was just he ruffed his partner's trick, indeed|pg|| nt|vankan: Yes, enplaying himself|pg|| mb|p|nt|adriaantje: 2NT probably 4-card support, constructive|pg|| mb|p|nt|vankan: Because he had to give a ruff sluff |pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s6|nt|adriaantje: NS same to be on the same wavelength here; well bid|pg|| nt|adriaantje: seem*|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|adriaantje: although it is a bit strange that N did not dbl 1@S|pg|| pc|s8|pc|h2|pc|s5|pc|s3|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|h5|pc|d2|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s7|pc|h8|pc|sK|pg|| nt|adriaantje: but 2@C doesn't seem to have denied a 4crd @H in their system|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|d5|pc|d3|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|c7|pc|sT|pc|h9|pg|| nt|adriaantje: whoops|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pc|c9|pc|h7|pg|| pc|s9|mc|9|nt|adriaantje: that wasn't necessary|pg|| nt|vankan: Declarer lost control of the play when he played AK of |pg|| nt|vankan: @h|pg|| nt|adriaantje: indeed|pg|| pg|| qx|c3|st||md|1S432HAKJ9DAJ4CA94,SAQ987HQ764DT6CT5,SJH8532DQ75CKQ876,SKT65HTDK9832CJ32|sv|e|nt|vugraphzbc: Good atmosphere at this table. "knock knoc" jokes every time they open the hatch:)|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|Rodal F: 4@H as end I belive|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dT|pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|hT|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pc|s5|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|h3|pc|s6|pg|| pc|h5|pc|d3|pc|hK|pc|h4|pg|| nt|Rodal F: And at troubble|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c4|pc|h7|pc|c7|pc|c3|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h8|pc|d9|pc|h9|pg|| pc|sA|pc|d7|pc|sT|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s9|pc|c8|pc|sK|nt|Rodal F: @S might better than 3. @C|pg|| pc|hJ|pg|| pc|d4|pc|s8|pc|cQ|pc|d8|pg|| pg|| qx|o4|st||md|2SKTHKJ932DJT9C643,SJ9832H654DAQ652C,SA6HQT87DCAKJT852,SQ754HADK8743CQ97|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1C|nt|adriaantje: nice hand for N here|pg|| mb|1D|mb|1H|nt|adriaantje: what will he do when his partner makes him happy by bidding @H? :)|pg|| mb|1S|nt|adriaantje: W will support of course|pg|| nt|adriaantje: ..at his next turn|pg|| nt|vankan: A reasonable 6@c or 6@h, that both will suffer defeat\|pg|| nt|vugraphzar: Really unlucky to go down in 6@h here|pg|| mb|2S!|nt|vankan: In 6@h there's always the danger og a @c ruff, even if they are 2-1|pg|| nt|vugraphzar: 6@c is a good contract, 6@h is great|pg|| mb|3S|nt|vankan: I think 6@c slightly better|pg|| nt|adriaantje: 2@S is not a very descriptive bid|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|nt|adriaantje: 4@C should be 6 clubs and 4 hearts, but he could also bid 4@D to show shortage there|pg|| mb|5C|nt|adriaantje: 4@S makes!|pg|| mb|d|nt|adriaantje: 5@S even?|pg|| nt|adriaantje: so 6@C a good save against 5@S|pg|| nt|vankan: :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|5D|nt|vankan: I think E talked them out of that|pg|| mb|p|mb|5S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|adriaantje: it looks that way|pg|| nt|adriaantje: I still think it is a bit strange that N never showed his @H support|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|adriaantje: unless they have an agreement that 2@S shows support|pg|| nt|adriaantje: which wouldn't be standard|pg|| nt|adriaantje: the contract is right-sided; played by east it is down on a @D lead|pg|| nt|vankan: Sinbce W is declarer there seems no way to defeat this|pg|| pc|cA|nt|adriaantje: operator, do you know which Westerbeek is W and which is E?|pg|| nt|vugraphzar: East is R Westerbeek|pg|| nt|adriaantje: thanks|pg|| nt|vugraphzar: And west C W...|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c6|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|sT|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|s3|pg|| mc|11|nt|vankan: ricardO is Oost en chriS is weSt|pg|| pg|| qx|c4|st||md|2SKTHKJ932DJT9C643,SJ9832H654DAQ652C,SA6HQT87DCAKJT852,SQ754HADK8743CQ97|sv|b|nt|vugraphzbc: Van Engelen niet tevreede|pg|| nt|vugraphzbc: opps, private|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|nt|Rodal F: Hard core at this board. Where to end?|pg|| mb|1D|mb|d!|an|!Hs|mb|2D|nt|Rodal F: Often a good slam for NS, but....|pg|| nt|vugraphzbc: I don't think N will stop in time. W 2@D maybe passive?|pg|| mb|4C!|an|alerted by N, not S|nt|Rodal F: 4@C alerted as? Ok.|pg|| nt|vugraphzbc: Ah, S alerted after thinking for a while|pg|| mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|nt|Rodal F: So 4@C are @H based Leif?|pg|| nt|vugraphzbc: Yes. 4@C was heart fit, but it must be solid @Cs.|pg|| nt|vugraphzbc: DIfficult to hear explanations. Mostly they whisper|pg|| nt|Rodal F: A spec told6+@C and 4@H. Thx Niels:)|pg|| nt|vugraphzbc: OR ended in 5@Sx... wow|pg|| nt|Rodal F: Might 5@D from N?|pg|| mb|5H|mb|p|mb|6H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraphzbc: Good slam, just not now|pg|| nt|Rodal F: Must be a ask for @H quality for S and...|pg|| pc|dA|pc|h7|nt|Rodal F: Feel 5@C as a bit better slam.....|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d9|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|h2|nt|Rodal F: Sr. 6@C|pg|| pc|h4|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s6|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|d7|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|h6|pg|| nt|Rodal F: Some words inside S now I belive:)|pg|| mc|11|nt|vugraphzbc: It seems he did forget. Claimed 2 off after the @C ruff.|pg|| pg|| qx|o5|st||md|3SK832HQ8DK64CQJ94,SATHJ763DAT5CAK63,SJ954HKT9DJ872CT8,SQ76HA542DQ93C752|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C!|nt|vankan: CR went also down in 4@h on 3|pg|| nt|adriaantje: some might open the south hand in 3rd position|pg|| mb|p|nt|adriaantje: 13-15 NT in 1st and 2nd, 12-15 in 3rd and 4th|pg|| mb|1D!|mb|p|nt|adriaantje: EW play 12-15 NT in 4th position, so that is why he did not open 1NT here|pg|| mb|2H!|nt|vankan: 1@d transfer Walsh|pg|| mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|nt|adriaantje: 1@D is 4+ hearts|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|cT|nt|vankan: 2@h 4c support|pg|| nt|adriaantje: 2@H obviously also showed the strong NT hand, as we can conclude|pg|| nt|vankan: Probably also showing a ca 16 HCP hand|pg|| nt|vankan: A kib suggests that this won't make. I agree. :)|pg|| nt|adriaantje: me too|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|cA|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|d9|nt|adriaantje: 3NT also very unlikely to make|pg|| pc|dK|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|c8|pc|c5|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pc|d4|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cJ|pc|c3|nt|vankan: He negotiated the @d, but still faces 2 trump losers a @s and a @c|pg|| pc|dJ|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c6|pc|s4|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|h3|pc|h9|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|hT|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pg|| mc|9|nt|adriaantje: Wales lost their first match 7-116, they must be out for revenge|pg|| nt|vankan: On bd 4 @s were never mentioned in CR and NS reached 6@h under their own steam|pg|| nt|vankan: They won't expect to win 12 IMPs here|pg|| pg|| qx|c5|st||md|3SK832HQ8DK64CQJ94,SATHJ763DAT5CAK63,SJ954HKT9DJ872CT8,SQ76HA542DQ93C752|sv|n|nt|Rodal F: But still 12IMP since 4@SX= at the other room|pg|| nt|vugraphzbc: Kibs pilcaroo point out that 6@C is not a good slam either, due to the high possiblity of a @H ruff. I think I would just say 6@C in N instead of 5@H|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraphzbc: Small pickup for the Welsh girls here maybe?|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|h6|pc|s4|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h9|pc|hA|pc|h8|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|d3|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|d6|pc|d5|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|h7|pc|hT|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|c8|pc|c2|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|c4|pg|| pc|d7|pc|h5|pc|s8|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c9|pc|cA|pc|cT|pg|| pc|c6|pc|s9|pc|c7|pc|cQ|pg|| pg|| qx|o6|st||md|4SQT53H85D9743CAJ8,S2HAT43DAKQ2CKQ43,SAJ98HKQJ76DTC976,SK764H92DJ865CT52|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|nt|adriaantje: indeed|pg|| nt|adriaantje: 2@D on board 4 in CR looks to me like a huge underbid|pg|| mb|1C|mb|1H|mb|d!|mb|p|nt|adriaantje: dbl is 4 or 5 spades, I think|pg|| mb|1N!|mb|p|mb|p|nt|adriaantje: very agressive with a balanced 4-count|pg|| mb|p|nt|adriaantje: but his partner will be well aware of this|pg|| pc|c7|nt|vankan: Hopefully. :)|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cA|nt|adriaantje: 1NT shows a strong hand again because they play a (relatively) weak NT|pg|| pc|c4|pg|| nt|vankan: The good news is that E has an entry, so he has the possibility to win two @c tricks|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|c5|pg|| nt|vankan: Doesn't need them now...|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|c8|pg|| nt|adriaantje: this may also allow Ricardo Westerbeek to double without too many HCP, I think|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dT|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|h6|pg|| pc|dK|pc|s8|pc|d6|pc|d7|pg|| pc|dA|pc|h7|pc|d8|pc|d9|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|s9|pc|h2|pc|h8|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|s4|pc|s5|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|h5|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|hA|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|s7|pc|sT|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sK|pc|sQ|pc|hT|pg|| pg|| qx|c6|st||md|4SQT53H85D9743CAJ8,S2HAT43DAKQ2CKQ43,SAJ98HKQJ76DTC976,SK764H92DJ865CT52|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C!|an|best minor|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|nt|vugraphzbc: 4 out of 6 Dutch players have names ending in Beek, difficult to keep track of them here in Tromso|pg|| mb|p|nt|Rodal F: Belive many open 1@D at W for easyer fight, but waited a X over 1@S neg. X fight.|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Rodal F: It came at least.|pg|| mb|p|pc|c6|pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|h2|pg|| nt|Rodal F: At the other room E Xed 1@H and bought the contract by 1NT|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h9|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|c5|pc|cJ|pg|| nt|vugraphzbc: And then W bid 1NT? Strange bidding, no?|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| nt|Rodal F: And -1|pg|| pc|hK|pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|s7|pc|sT|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|sK|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dT|pc|dJ|nt|Rodal F: Y. 1NT from W.|pg|| pc|d4|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d9|pc|dQ|pc|s8|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o7|st||md|1S982HQJTDAKT5CAQJ,SK764HAK85432DCT6,SAQJT5H96D742CK73,S3H7DQJ9863C98542|sv|b|mb|1D|mb|4H|mb|d|mb|p|nt|adriaantje: NS play a 12-14 NT|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|d4|nt|adriaantje: S doesn't really have anything to bid, it seems|pg|| nt|vankan: Very agressive preempt by W. This can be costly, since 4@s is by no means laydown|pg|| nt|adriaantje: clear 4@H in Dutch junior style|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|h2|pg|| nt|vankan: :)|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pg|| nt|adriaantje: especially the Westerbeek style, which is infamous throughout the country|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h7|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c7|pc|c8|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|s3|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|c5|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|h4|pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|s8|nt|adriaantje: and I don't think duch a bad result resulting from their agressive preempts influences their style in the future at all :)|pg|| nt|adriaantje: such*|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s5|nt|vankan: 1100|pg|| pc|d6|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s7|pc|sJ|pc|d8|pg|| pc|sA|pc|c9|pc|d5|pc|sK|pg|| mc|6|pg|| qx|c7|st||md|1S982HQJTDAKT5CAQJ,SK764HAK85432DCT6,SAQJT5H96D742CK73,S3H7DQJ9863C98542|sv|b|mb|1N|mb|3H|nt|Rodal F: 4@H for trancfeer to @S?|pg|| nt|vugraphzbc: wat doe jij nu, Thijs?|pg|| mb|4C!|mb|p|nt|Rodal F: 4@C is?|pg|| nt|vugraphzbc: I think that's what van Engelen is contemplating right now:)|pg|| nt|Rodal F: :)|pg|| nt|vugraphzbc: RobDon suggests that S thinks 4@C is @C abd spades|pg|| mb|4N|nt|vugraphzbc: N shakes his head at 4NT|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Rodal F: A spec came with 3@S tr to 3NT and 3NT tr to 4@C. Couldmight be|pg|| nt|vugraphzbc: van Engelen must have wanted his minor|pg|| pc|hA|nt|Rodal F: Ended well anyway|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h7|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|c2|pc|hT|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|d3|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s7|pc|sJ|pc|d6|pg|| pc|sA|pc|c8|pc|d5|pc|sK|pg|| nt|Rodal F: Still 140 and IMPs for EW|pg|| mc|11|nt|vugraphzbc: 1100 in OR changes things a bit, but if N continued that could have been funny|pg|| pg|| qx|o8|st||md|2S2HQJT8DK92CQJ654,SA97654HA954DCT98,SKT3H762DJ8753CA7,SQJ8HK3DAQT64CK32|sv|o|mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|nt|adriaantje: 2@C is 9-13 with majors at least 5-4|pg|| mb|2S!|mb|p|mb|2N!|nt|vankan: 2@c both majors, weak I suppose|pg|| mb|p|nt|adriaantje: and they seem to allow 8 with an extra card in one of those suits|pg|| nt|adriaantje: no, not weak, 9-13|pg|| nt|adriaantje: 2NT is now a GF relay|pg|| mb|3H!|mb|p|nt|adriaantje: I don't know what 3@H means but I presume Chris is able to show his 6-4|pg|| nt|vankan: Two aces a six card and a void surely is in that range|pg|| nt|adriaantje: certainly|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vankan: Apparently they were on the same wavelength|pg|| pc|d8|nt|adriaantje: so 4@S it is, this contract seems quite safe|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|s4|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|h8|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|c8|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d9|pc|c9|pc|d5|pg|| nt|vankan: N should have played @dJ on this trick|pg|| nt|vankan: Now declarer knows he still has one|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|sK|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|cT|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d4|pc|c5|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s8|mc|10|pg|| qx|c8|st||md|2S2HQJT8DK92CQJ654,SA97654HA954DCT98,SKT3H762DJ8753CA7,SQJ8HK3DAQT64CK32|sv|o|nt|Rodal F: Sr.1100 minus 660:(|pg|| mb|2S|an|alerted I think]|mb|p|mb|2N!|mb|p|mb|3C!|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|s4|pg|| nt|Rodal F: 3@C=good or weak 2@S? A lost anyway since 4@S= at the other room.|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|h8|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|sK|pg|| nt|vugraphzbc: I'm guessing 3@C was minimum and poor suit after a constructive opening. But E could just bid game?|pg|| nt|Rodal F: Feelthat E as W underbidded there hands.|pg|| nt|Rodal F: Spectold3@C shoed weak/weak 2@S. so feel for E now.|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|hT|pc|hA|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|c4|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|c8|pc|d5|pg|| pc|s8|pc|c5|pc|sA|pc|sT|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|h7|pc|d4|pc|hJ|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h9|pc|d8|pc|d6|pg|| mc|9|nt|vugraphzbc: Sorry. I misclicked somewhere. She made +1|pg|| pg|| qx|o9|st||md|3SK8HJ98DJ742CA752,SA32HKT52DK98C963,SJ965HQ74DA6CQJT8,SQT74HA63DQT53CK4|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|adriaantje: now here's a quick board|pg|| pg|| qx|c9|st||md|3SK8HJ98DJ742CA752,SA32HKT52DK98C963,SJ965HQ74DA6CQJT8,SQT74HA63DQT53CK4|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pg|| qx|o10|st||md|4S62HA4DJT9652CKT7,S9843HKT83D87CQ64,SAJTHJ965DKCAJ853,SKQ75HQ72DAQ43C92|sv|b|nt|adriaantje: has the age of the Welsh players been properly checked? No real junior would ever pass in 3rd pos nonvul vs not :)|pg|| mb|1N!|nt|adriaantje: nonvul vs vul|pg|| nt|adriaantje: 1NT 13-15|pg|| mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2D!|nt|adriaantje: their CC even says (11)(12)13-15 so everything is possible|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H!|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dJ|nt|adriaantje: 2@C 'special stayman', used here as drop dead stayman to sign off in 2M|pg|| nt|vankan: They landed in their 4-4 fit, but the sequence suggests a kind of puppet Stayman|pg|| nt|adriaantje: I have no idea what this special stayman is constituted from|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dK|nt|vankan: Oh, IC|pg|| pc|dA|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|c5|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|sA|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sT|pg|| pc|h7|pc|d2|pc|hK|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|s7|pc|d5|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c10|st||md|4S62HA4DJT9652CKT7,S9843HKT83D87CQ64,SAJTHJ965DKCAJ853,SKQ75HQ72DAQ43C92|sv|b|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|vugraphzbc: Coch Draig joins us to shed some light on the plays. Welcome:)|pg|| nt|Coch Draig: Hi everyone, I'll do my best :)|pg|| mb|2N|mb|p|nt|Rodal F: Hi pard. Nice to see you:)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| nt|vugraphzbc: Smart has to wonder after S bid 1NT|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|d7|nt|Rodal F: Feel N was a bit hard as long as 1NT normaly is 8 to 11(bad) HP.|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| pc|dT|pc|s9|pc|h6|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d9|pc|s8|pc|h9|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|h3|pc|c3|pc|h7|pc|hA|pg|| pc|d6|pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|s5|pg|| nt|Rodal F: At the other room E opened 1NT weak and got it at 2@S.|pg|| pc|d2|pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|c2|pg|| nt|vugraphzbc: What do you do here? Take your 3 tricks and safeplay, or go for glory?|pg|| pc|cK|nt|Coch Draig: Take the 3 tricks :)|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|c9|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c6|pc|c8|pc|s7|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|cA|nt|vugraphzbc: I thought so too. W denied 6 hcp, but declarer thought otherwise|pg|| pc|sQ|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o11|st||md|1SQT852HQT54DQJ3C2,SK4H986DAT98CK875,SAJ96HAJ2DK72CAQJ,S73HK73D654CT9643|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|adriaantje: 5@S and 4@H after your partner's 2NT opening bid; an infamously difficult situation|pg|| mb|3H!|nt|vankan: CR on bd 7 NS reached 4NT and made that in some comfort. |pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|nt|vankan: A good result, since 4@s is in jeopardy. But the board had been lost alreade here|pg|| nt|adriaantje: no problem here of course, Barrett could have either used a transfer or stayman (which they play in this situation), they would have found the 5-4 @S fit|pg|| mb|4N!|mb|p|nt|adriaantje: whoa|pg|| mb|5C|nt|adriaantje: perhaps Barrett is a true junior after all|pg|| mb|p|mb|5S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|adriaantje: but they seem to have stopped in time|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|cJ|pg|| nt|adriaantje: missing two keycards :)|pg|| nt|vankan: :) Pity they don't play origlinal B'wood. H still might heve bid 6.|pg|| nt|vankan: He|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c6|pc|s2|pc|c7|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|adriaantje: shall we try to remain impartial Jos?|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sA|nt|vankan: :)|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s7|pc|sT|pc|s4|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h9|pc|h2|pc|hK|pg|| nt|vankan: The result is only a by-product. I meant to establish his true juniorship|pg|| mc|11|nt|adriaantje: ok :)|pg|| nt|vugraphzar: Bath room break|pg|| nt|adriaantje: obviously you don't tend to sweat a lot in arctic Tromso, so visiting the bathroom is a sign you've been drinking enough water|pg|| nt|vugraphzar: But today is is over 20 degrees here!!|pg|| nt|adriaantje: really?|pg|| nt|adriaantje: wow|pg|| nt|vugraphzar: Outdoor and indoor|pg|| pg|| qx|c11|st||md|1SQT852HQT54DQJ3C2,SK4H986DAT98CK875,SAJ96HAJ2DK72CAQJ,S73HK73D654CT9643|sv|o|nt|vugraphzbc: goed gedaan though|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3C!|mb|p|mb|3D!|mb|p|mb|4D!|an|Better !S than !H|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c4|nt|vugraphzbc: Coch Draig, what does it mean?|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| pc|d2|nt|Rodal F: For info by the turney: http://www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/15Tromsoyouth/microsite/Results.htm|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|h4|pg|| nt|Coch Draig: 3d at least 1 major, 4d both majors|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|d8|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|s4|pg|| nt|vugraphzbc: Hehe. I mean "Coch Draig":)|pg|| pc|s6|nt|Coch Draig: 11 easy tricks for a flat board|pg|| mc|11|nt|Coch Draig: Red dragon :)|pg|| pg|| qx|o12|st||md|2S98653HAKJ6DCKJ95,S74HQ753DJ753C732,SQTH42DAKQT62CQT8,SAKJ2HT98D984CA64|sv|n|nt|adriaantje: I heard different stories from folk who had attended the NBF junior camp last week|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|nt|vugraphzar: last week is a different story|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H!|nt|adriaantje: 1NT 12-14 although you may wonder whether this hand wouldn't be too strong..|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S!|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|nt|adriaantje: ugh|pg|| mb|4N|nt|vankan: This is a strange way to show a 5-4 majors|pg|| mb|p|nt|adriaantje: the Smolen convention would have helped here (2@C-2@D-3@H-3NT-all pass)|pg|| nt|adriaantje: but if you don't play that, you should be able to bid 3@H after 2@S as forcing|pg|| mb|5D|mb|p|nt|adriaantje: even if partner has a classic balanced hand, he could still be 2-3-4-4 shaped|pg|| nt|vugraphzar: What will south think if it goes all pass now|pg|| nt|adriaantje: It seems like north meant 4NT to play there|pg|| nt|vankan: He'll suffer a stroke|pg|| nt|adriaantje: lol|pg|| nt|vankan: 4NT is one of those bids only the bidder understands|pg|| mb|7S|mb|d|nt|adriaantje: what?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cA|nt|adriaantje: I think this was probably the fastest penalty double Ricardo Westerbeek will ever have bid in his career|pg|| pc|c5|nt|vankan: Ricardo had one of the easiest doubles in the history of the game|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c8|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg|| nt|adriaantje: as becomes clear now, north thought 4@H was a slam try for @S|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h6|nt|adriaantje: and then he thought south should have 4, not 1, keycard for his slam try...|pg|| pc|h7|pc|sQ|pc|h8|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|hJ|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|c9|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d9|pc|cJ|pc|d7|pg|| pc|cT|nt|adriaantje: gosh|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|c2|pg|| nt|vankan: And had an undisclosed source of tricks...|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s7|pc|d2|pc|sA|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|dJ|pc|d6|pg|| pc|s6|pc|c3|pc|dT|pc|sK|pg|| pc|c6|pc|s8|pc|hQ|pc|cQ|pg|| pg|| qx|c12|st||md|2S98653HAKJ6DCKJ95,S74HQ753DJ753C732,SQTH42DAKQT62CQT8,SAKJ2HT98D984CA64|sv|n|nt|vugraphzbc: Of course |pg|| nt|Coch Draig: Car crash for Wales in the other room :(|pg|| mb|p|nt|vugraphzbc: THe Dutch are loaded with cookies and drinks from their coach. So I got two cookies. Very nice manners from the Dutchies|pg|| mb|1D|mb|d|mb|1H!|mb|p|nt|Coch Draig: 1h = transfer|pg|| nt|Rodal F: Seems as the other room had a BIG misunderstanding|pg|| mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|Coch Draig: No, it was bigger than that|pg|| nt|Rodal F: LOL:)|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|nt|vugraphzbc: When you sit E and hear 7@S Christmas carrols start playing in your head|pg|| mb|d|mb|r|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Rodal F: Quite a hard X from E|pg|| nt|vugraphzbc: Lord. 7@Sx in one and 2@Sxx in the other|pg|| nt|Coch Draig: Wales have had better boards...|pg|| pc|hT|nt|Rodal F: We look at the bright side of life. Two BIG mistakes don't cost to much.|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h4|pg|| nt|vugraphzbc: True. When you make a mistake better make a sandwich with your teammates|pg|| nt|Coch Draig: On the bright side, it will make richards/barrett feel better so that's good :)|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg|| nt|Rodal F: +1 give 1190 and = 790 + the other table.|pg|| nt|vugraphzbc: In the other room N opened 1NT and S transferred to @Ss. S bid 4@H to choose and after that the train had no brakes|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|sT|pc|h8|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|hJ|pc|d7|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s4|pg|| pc|d9|pc|c9|pc|dJ|nt|Rodal F: Y. Seems as N took 5@D for all missing controls after the 4NT ask.|pg|| pc|dK|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s7|pc|d2|nt|vugraphzbc: Declarer surprised to see W with another @S|pg|| pc|s2|pg|| nt|Coch Draig: n space took 4h as a splinter and self agreeing spade suit (slam try)|pg|| pc|s5|pc|d5|pc|d6|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|d8|pc|cK|pc|d3|pc|dT|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|sA|mc|9|pg|| qx|o13|st||md|3S873HAQ7D964C8432,SQJ2HJ932DAQT8CA5,S654HT654DKJ3CJT9,SAKT9HK8D752CKQ76|sv|b|nt|adriaantje: the art of the game for Wales would now be to not exchange a word about this board until after playing has finished|pg|| nt|adriaantje: it would only end in a fight which you would not like to have at the bridge table|pg|| nt|vugraphzar: North said he could understand why east doubled....|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|nt|vugraphzar: Nothing said about the board|pg|| mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2S!|nt|adriaantje: I think NS deserve some praise for that :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|c9|pc|cK|pg|| pc|d2|nt|adriaantje: NS lead 2nd/4th|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c6|pc|c3|pc|cA|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|sT|pc|s3|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d6|nt|adriaantje: 3NT does not seem to be in big danger, even with @DKJ and @HA off|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cQ|pc|c4|pc|h2|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s7|pc|sJ|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|s8|pg|| pc|sA|pc|d9|pc|h3|pc|h4|pg|| pc|d7|pc|h7|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d8|pc|h5|pc|c7|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h6|pc|h8|pc|hA|pg|| pc|c8|pc|hJ|pc|hT|pc|hK|pg|| pg|| qx|c13|st||md|3S873HAQ7D964C8432,SQJ2HJ932DAQT8CA5,S654HT654DKJ3CJT9,SAKT9HK8D752CKQ76|sv|b|mb|p|nt|Rodal F: 2340 is seldome. Forgot the exstra 50 by 1190.|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|4C!|mb|p|mb|4H|an|alert|mb|p|nt|vugraphzbc: It's been a long day with 50+ boards. People get tired here now, yawning and stretching|pg|| mb|4N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s8|nt|Coch Draig: And only 4 Welsh players so no chance to have a rest :(|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|sT|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg|| nt|Rodal F: Sr. Lost con. Feel it's better to start with 2@C from W|pg|| nt|Coch Draig: Yes, 4c was an overbid which is not consistent with earlier boards|pg|| nt|Coch Draig: Perhaps even an element of chasing imps after the nightmare of board 12|pg|| nt|vugraphzbc: Most of the players stay at the same hotel. So far it has been surprisingly quiet. Well behaved and orderly. Three weeks ago, when the "grown-ups" were there, they literally drank ...|pg|| nt|vugraphzbc: the same hotel dry on the 2nd day. No more beer...|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|cA|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|vugraphzbc: Maybe 4@C was bid in an attempt to make up for the last board?|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d8|pc|dJ|nt|Rodal F: Not Gingerbeer eigher?:)|pg|| pc|d5|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|c7|pg|| nt|vugraphzbc: They had an special offer. Same they gave the chess players when the chess olympics were here earlier. They didn't have the same problem then|pg|| pc|d4|nt|Coch Draig: Yes that's right as I said, and what many won't know Greener/Smart are very inexperienced players whom home here in Wales have much respect for being brave enough to put themselves ...|pg|| nt|Coch Draig: up against far superior and experienced players|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d7|pg|| pc|dT|pc|s4|pc|cQ|mc|8|pg|| qx|o14|st||md|4ST954HAKQT7DK42CJ,S7H92DAQ87CAQ7642,SKQHJ8654DJ96CT85,SAJ8632H3DT53CK93|sv|o|mb|2D!|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|adriaantje: 2@D multi, a weak two opener in a major with a 5+card|pg|| nt|vugraphzar: Looks like 5@c is making EW|pg|| mb|4H|nt|adriaantje: north should support with his 5card, but 3 or 4?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|adriaantje: indeed it seems so|pg|| pc|s7|nt|adriaantje: had Chris Westerbeek bid 3@C over 2@H, they might have found it|pg|| nt|adriaantje: 4@H is without any chance of making whatsover|pg|| nt|adriaantje: whatsoever|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sA|nt|vankan: Well, 5@c makes on the @d finesse and @d 3-3, so an 18% game|pg|| pc|s4|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c9|nt|adriaantje: the @D do not need to be 3-3, with those @SKQ dropping|pg|| pc|hA|pg|| pc|hK|nt|adriaantje: but well, that is only a small extra chance of course|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|h3|pg|| nt|vankan: Oh right, KQ bare in @s gives an extra epsilon :)|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h9|pc|h5|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s5|nt|vankan: OK, I'll be generous, a 20% game|pg|| pc|c2|pc|sK|pc|s3|pg|| nt|vankan: :)|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|dA|nt|adriaantje: if trumps are 2-2 and spades 3-3, you also make it disregarding the position of @DK..|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d5|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d9|pc|dT|pc|dK|pg|| mc|9|nt|adriaantje: so I would give it even more :)|pg|| pg|| qx|c14|st||md|4ST954HAKQT7DK42CJ,S7H92DAQ87CAQ7642,SKQHJ8654DJ96CT85,SAJ8632H3DT53CK93|sv|o|mb|2S|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s7|pc|sK|pc|sA|nt|Rodal F: Nearly same bidding. 2@D multi at the other room from E|pg|| pc|s9|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|h2|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|Coch Draig: @s2 asking for a club return|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o15|st||md|1SQTHAJT76DKQ863C2,S852HQ43DJT95CA74,SAK4HK8D7CKQJT953,SJ9763H952DA42C86|sv|n|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|vankan: No, you can't play for that if it goes @h to A, @d swtich|pg|| nt|vankan: switch even|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2S!|an|fsf|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|nt|vankan: and you need 3 entries in dummy to esablich @s, even if they are 3-3|pg|| nt|vankan: establish|pg|| mb|4N|mb|p|nt|vankan: So I stick to 20%, give or take 1%|pg|| nt|adriaantje: @D switch for the A, @SA @S ruff, @CA @C to K, @S ruff. now the spades are free (if 3-3 and 2-2) and you can reach them via a @H ruff|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|adriaantje: sorry, I don't give up too easily|pg|| nt|adriaantje: let's look at this board now :)|pg|| nt|vugraphzar: North intended 4NT as BW|pg|| pc|s3|nt|adriaantje: it seems so, yes|pg|| nt|vugraphzar: Should not be, though|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|adriaantje: but a general principle is, can't use blackwood when a trump suit hasn't been explicitly/implicitly set|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s4|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|c6|pg|| nt|vankan: all right, but if theay aren't, you are doem, making hithis a 0.4(s 2-2)*0.36 (d 3-3) = 0.15 or 15 % line|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c8|pc|d3|pc|cA|pg|| nt|adriaantje: yep|pg|| nt|vankan: So is even worse|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|sT|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|d2|pc|h6|pc|c7|pg|| pc|cT|pc|h9|pc|h7|pc|s2|pg|| pc|c9|pc|h5|pc|d6|pc|d5|pg|| pc|c5|pc|s7|pc|d8|pc|d9|pg|| nt|adriaantje: I never claimed it was a good line :)|pg|| pc|c3|pc|s9|pc|dQ|pc|dT|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sJ|pc|dK|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h8|pc|d4|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|d7|pc|dA|pg|| pg|| qx|c15|st||md|1SQTHAJT76DKQ863C2,S852HQ43DJT95CA74,SAK4HK8D7CKQJT953,SJ9763H952DA42C86|sv|n|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|nt|Rodal F: Some use 2@D as a stronger bid than 3@D 5-5 and normal opening. Belive the ast is in here.|pg|| nt|Rodal F: 4@C = slamtry|pg|| mb|4D|mb|p|mb|4N|mb|p|nt|Rodal F: Sign off|pg|| mb|5C|an|alerted by N, not S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|uni_dennis: hi all|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: i think 4NT was RKC for @c|pg|| nt|vugraphzbc: They seem to be of different minds about 4NT at least|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|s2|pc|s4|pg|| pc|c2|nt|uni_dennis: if RKC @c, then 5@c is normal, 1KC|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c6|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c8|pc|d3|pc|c7|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|d2|pc|h6|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|s7|pc|h7|pc|d5|pg|| pc|cT|pc|h2|pc|d6|pc|d9|pg|| pc|c9|pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|dT|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s9|pc|dQ|pc|s8|pg|| pc|c5|pc|h5|pc|dK|pc|dJ|pg|| mc|11|nt|vugraphzbc: Put down his hand and said he topped @Hs|pg|| nt|Rodal F: Belive N had a que at the road if more slam interst so 4NT was for pass|pg|| pg|| qx|o16|st||md|2SKQ32HQ543DQ932C4,SJT65H62DA65CJT73,SA8HAK987DKJ4CAK2,S974HJTDT87CQ9865|sv|e|nt|adriaantje: but as slam does not make for NS, this result is not too bad for Wales|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3C!|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|nt|vankan: Finally a slam that is airtight|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|adriaantje: unfortunately, I am not in Tromso but in the Netherlands, and my parents are calling me for dinner. thanks to Jos, tusen takk to Harald and all specs, see you soon|pg|| nt|vankan: Bye bye|pg|| nt|vugraphzar: Bye Adriaan|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|vugraphzar: North too good for 2NT IMO|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|hA|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hT|pc|h4|pc|h6|pg|| mc|12|nt|vankan: If their range is 20-22 with all those controls and a 5 card I agree|pg|| pg|| qx|c16|st||md|2SKQ32HQ543DQ932C4,SJT65H62DA65CJT73,SA8HAK987DKJ4CAK2,S974HJTDT87CQ9865|sv|e|mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|p|nt|uni_dennis: good slam|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: 2@c = strong|pg|| mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|uni_dennis: 2NT = 22-24|pg|| mb|3C!|mb|p|nt|uni_dennis: 3@c puppet stayman|pg|| nt|Rodal F: Puppet on?|pg|| mb|3N!|mb|p|nt|uni_dennis: 3NT = 5@h |pg|| nt|uni_dennis: (3@h would have been no Major)|pg|| mb|4C!|mb|p|nt|Rodal F: Why not 3@H if puppet was on?:(|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: now south makes the slam try|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: and North wil accept with lots of controls|pg|| mb|4D!|mb|p|nt|uni_dennis: North should continue even if South bids 4@h now|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: he has a great hand for slam, for his 5@h332 hand|pg|| nt|Rodal F: They might use Muppet? |pg|| nt|vugraphzbc: How strict are they with the 2@D answer. Can he be much stronger than he is now?|pg|| mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5C!|nt|uni_dennis: i think they almost always bid 2@d|pg|| mb|p|mb|5D!|mb|p|mb|5H!|mb|p|nt|uni_dennis: 5@d is strange|pg|| mb|6H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|uni_dennis: he has @hQ himsefl|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: ah|pg|| nt|Rodal F: Many use it that way Dennis, but they will change it after a while:)|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: wanted to make North declare|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: r|pg|| nt|vugraphzbc: Sensible|pg|| mb|p|pc|c6|nt|uni_dennis: north would surely bid 5@h over 5@d, so he would become declarer|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o17|st||md|3SAHAJT42DAQ9543CK,S974H853DKJ86CAQ6,SKQJT82H9DT72CJT2,S653HKQ76DC987543|sv|o|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|vankan: Got to go now. Thanks specs and Harald, see you tomorrow |pg|| nt|vugraphzar: Bye Jos|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|h9|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|s5|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|s8|pc|h6|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|h4|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s6|pc|hT|pc|s9|pg|| nt|vugraphzar: Could have made this, discarding diamonds on hearth|pg|| pc|d2|pc|c3|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|d7|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|cK|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cT|pc|c7|pc|d4|pg|| mc|9|nt|vugraphzar: hearts|pg|| nt|vugraphzar: losing two clubs and a heart|pg|| pg|| qx|c17|st||md|3SAHAJT42DAQ9543CK,S974H853DKJ86CAQ6,SKQJT82H9DT72CJT2,S653HKQ76DC987543|sv|o|nt|uni_dennis: 2@s or 3@s with North?|pg|| mb|3S|nt|uni_dennis: standard weak-2|pg|| mb|p|nt|uni_dennis: but dutch juniors like to preempt one higher NV 1st hand with good suit|pg|| nt|Rodal F: 4@S to come and @D badly placed|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|uni_dennis: on @hK lead might win and give up @hQ|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: along with @cAQ, scoring 6@s 2@h 1@d 1@c|pg|| pc|s3|nt|vugraphzbc: Smart is no man's fool and leads a trump|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: now what?|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: @c i suppose|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: to set up a trick there without having to play a red suit now|pg|| nt|Coch Draig: @ha and ruff a heart|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: @hA @h ruff risks losing control of the hand|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: if trumps 4-2|pg|| nt|Coch Draig: relying on diamonds only contributing 1 loser|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: leading @cK won't harm your chances|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cT|pc|c3|pc|d3|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|c4|pc|d4|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|h2|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s6|pc|d5|pc|s9|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: he might try @h9 now|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: if East splits, he's home|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: just giving up the other @h|pg|| pc|dT|pc|c7|nt|vugraphzbc: Verbeek looks like he might have lost track of trumps:), but no he didn;t|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: he still had enough entries to try the double @d finesse|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|Rodal F: Mr. Leif Erik Stabel, the vug. opp. live in Afrika (Zimbabwe) and was partner with Thor Helness for Norway many years ago. Afrikan champ at team. Played with his brother Tolle Stabel in Tromsø at Europeeian Championship open. A nice lad:)|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h9|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: results: http://www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/15Tromsoyouth/microsite/Results.htm|pg|| mc|9|nt|uni_dennis: all play all in this tournament, then the team with most VP wins the tournament|pg|| nt|vugraphzbc: Afraid that's another Leif-Erik. I live in Oslo:)|pg|| pg|| qx|o18|st||md|4SQT54HJ84DJ65CA42,S732HAKT65DKCQ876,SK96HQ932DAT87CJ5,SAJ8H7DQ9432CKT93|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2H!|mb|p|mb|3C!|nt|vugraphzar: 2@H is probably hearts and a minor|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraphzar: 3@c pass or correct|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s7|pc|s6|pc|s8|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h7|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|d3|pc|h8|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|c3|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d6|pc|h6|pc|d7|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|c6|pc|d8|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|c9|pc|cA|pg|| pc|c2|mc|9|pg|| qx|c18|st||md|4SQT54HJ84DJ65CA42,S732HAKT65DKCQ876,SK96HQ932DAT87CJ5,SAJ8H7DQ9432CKT93|sv|n|nt|uni_dennis: top-6 + Italy will qualify for the World Championship next year|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|nt|Rodal F: Ok. Sorry:) Storry by Leif Erik Stabel anyway correct.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c5|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: looks like one too high now|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|s9|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|d2|pc|h8|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|c9|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s7|pc|d8|pc|s8|pg|| pc|d6|pc|h6|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|c8|pc|d7|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|d9|pc|s4|pg|| pg|| qx|o19|st||md|1SAK94HA83DQ4CQT82,S62HQJ62DT83CAK73,ST83HK974DKJ965C9,SQJ75HT5DA72CJ654|sv|e|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|c6|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c3|pc|s3|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|dA|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s8|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d7|pc|cT|pc|dT|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|h6|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|sT|pc|s5|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c19|st||md|1SAK94HA83DQ4CQT82,S62HQJ62DT83CAK73,ST83HK974DKJ965C9,SQJ75HT5DA72CJ654|sv|e|nt|uni_dennis: 3NT might get close here|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: but not enough HCP to get there|pg|| mb|1N|nt|uni_dennis: 1NT 15-17|pg|| mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|uni_dennis: 2NT aggressive|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: non-vulnerable game bonus is only worth 300 points|pg|| nt|Rodal F: Agree but might an = to come.|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|c4|pc|c2|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hT|pc|hA|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|d2|pg|| nt|vugraphzbc: Verbeek saying he should have passed 2@S. "You did it before". "And you didn't like it then"|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: best to duck @d twice|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d8|nt|uni_dennis: then declarer has to choose if they break 3-3 or not|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: or look for tricks elsewhere|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d7|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|s4|pc|dT|pg|| nt|Rodal F: Can he fail by the posibillityes he have?|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|s3|pg|| pc|c7|pc|s8|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|Rodal F: +1|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: +2 even|pg|| mc|10|nt|vugraphzbc: +2. I thought they were playing 2@S and wondered what the hell was happening|pg|| pg|| qx|o20|st||md|2SKJHA874DKQ97C652,SAT3HTDT4CJT98743,S85HKQJ952DJ83CAQ,SQ97642H63DA652CK|sv|b|nt|vugraphzar: Last board now, see you all tomorrow at 10|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|2N!|mb|3S|nt|vugraphzar: Running scores at http://www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/15Tromsoyouth/microsite/Results.htm|pg|| mb|4H|mb|4S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|dA|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cA|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|hT|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dT|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d5|pc|d9|pc|s3|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|s2|pc|c5|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h7|pc|sT|pc|h2|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|cT|pc|s8|pc|s9|pc|c6|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|c4|pc|h5|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|c7|pc|h9|pc|d6|pg|| mc|8|nt|vugraphzar: Bye all|pg|| pg|| qx|c20|st||md|2SKJHA874DKQ97C652,SAT3HTDT4CJT98743,S85HKQJ952DJ83CAQ,SQ97642H63DA652CK|sv|b|nt|Rodal F: Ment IMP but wrong as well. +2:)|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: EW found a nice save over 4@h in the other room|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|mb|2S|nt|vugraphzbc: Last board for today. See you again at 10:00 tomorrow. Thanks to all commentators and kibs:)|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Rodal F: Thc to all nice specs. Thx as well to the exselent vug opp Leif Erik. And thx to all co commentators:)|pg|| pc|s6|nt|uni_dennis: 4@h could be weaker|pg|| nt|Coch Draig: thank you all|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: might miss slam this way|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|uni_dennis: but he might not wanted to give West an opportunity to support @s cheaply|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cK|pc|c2|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|hT|pg|| mc|11|nt|vugraphzbc: "@CK always stiff"|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: ok, that's it for today|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: but lots more to come this week|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: we start at 10:00 CET tomorrow (it is now close to 8PM)|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: 67 IMPs difference: 19.99 - 0.01 VP|pg|| pg||