vg|BBO1 2015 EOBC - Open Teams,SF 1_4,I,1,14,ORANGE WHITE,0,KHYUPPENEN,0| rs|3NW+1,4HE=,3HE-1,2HW=,3NW+3,3NW+1,4CW+1,5CW=,3HN-3,3HNx-3,2SW-1,4HN-3,1NN+1,1NS-1,1NS+1,3DW-3,5CSx-1,3CN+2,4DW-2,3DW-1,4HS-1,5DWx-2,3NE+1,5DW=,1NE+1,1NE=,3HN-1,3CE=| pn|MOLENAAR,DE WIJS,VERBEEK,MULLER,STERKIN,NAB,MATUSHKO,B DRIJVER|pg|| qx|o1|st||md|3ST9832HJ2D52CAT74,SAKQHAQT3D7643CJ2,S754HK97DAJT8C853,SJ6H8654DKQ9CKQ96|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|nt|KingCur: Good morning all and welcome to the first stanza of the semi finals of the Open Teams, first of 4, and of 14 boards each|pg|| mb|2S!|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@S = @S & @C/@D|pg|| nt|KingCur: Orange White the team that finished the RR some 20 VP's ahead of the whole field|pg|| pc|s4|nt|KingCur: Khyuppenen the team that entered the ranks of the last 16 only at the last round|pg|| nt|KingCur: But they gained momentum since, it seems, scoring two victories yesterday, against Ornage Red and Rosenthal|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|ahollan1: in other room Bob Drijver-Nab use mini-nt 1st/2nd non-vul so opens east hand 1N|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|cA|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Tarzan mini-NT only when favorable vul|pg|| nt|KingCur: Good morning to Al Hollander, our much respected expert of near all systems in the world, including the Tarzan Precision you can witness being played by EW here|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Nab did use stayman from WEST so other room 4@H east lead @S10|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|d2|pg|| nt|KingCur: There were a quite impressive 7 Dutch pairs among the teams that madeit to last sixteen KO phase of this tournament. Muller-De Wijs eliminated 3 of them so far, including ...|pg|| nt|KingCur: Brink-Drijver, their teamies in the national team. And no doubt their intention is to bring that to 5|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg|| nt|KingCur: Muller-De Wijs meanwhile full professional players. Simon De Wijs was already, and Bauke Muller turned full pro earlier this year|pg|| pc|s7|pc|h5|pc|s2|pc|sK|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c7|pc|d6|pc|c8|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|h7|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h9|pc|h8|pc|s8|pg|| pc|h3|pc|dT|mc|10|pg|| qx|c1|st||md|3ST9832HJ2D52CAT74,SAKQHAQT3D7643CJ2,S754HK97DAJT8C853,SJ6H8654DKQ9CKQ96|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1N!|an|10-12|mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|s7|pc|s6|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c5|pc|c6|nt|blum1956: Hi all|pg|| nt|yuval10: hi all|pg|| pc|cA|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d9|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|d4|pg|| nt|yuval10: @d lead could've caused troubles for declarer|pg|| nt|yuval10: even now he needs to guess the @h's and play @h to the A and Q@h|pg|| pc|h6|nt|yuval10: otherwise N wins and give his partner a @d ruff|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h7|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|c4|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg|| nt|yuval10: and he did, probably was best for the def. to lead small @d, duck by N|pg|| mc|10|nt|yuval10: then E has no quick entry to play the @h as he did and have to guess|pg|| pg|| qx|o2|st||md|4SK82HJ2DKJT73CJ95,S9653HA9654D8CAK2,SAJTHQ73DA954CT83,SQ74HKT8DQ62CQ764|sv|n|mb|1N!|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S!|nt|KingCur: URL available (Video) at http://livebridge.net/bbo/wbf/2015tromso.php?chp=OC&dsp=ytb|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1st/2nd favorable 1N=9-12|pg|| mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@S = 5@H 4@S INV|pg|| nt|KingCur: Running scores for the open:|pg|| nt|KingCur: http://eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/15Tromso/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/knockoutphaseconditstatMultievColours.asp?qtournid=1110&qroundno=1&qphase=SF|pg|| nt|ahollan1: unusual to see same response structure to mini-NT as used for stronger ranges|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d8|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| nt|ahollan1: and what a crummy 9 count|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|ahollan1: Tarzan 1N ranges 1/2 fav = 9-12 3rd fav=9-14 else 15-17|pg|| nt|ahollan1: for giggles KnR says east worth a rousing 6.80|pg|| nt|KingCur: West's invite understandable, I'd say, with AAK and a 5431, but it will be a loss for them since 3@H won't make|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|ahollan1: drijver was saved by his his range where mini-NT needs 10 hcp :)|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s9|pc|sT|pc|s7|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|c9|pc|cK|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|h7|pg|| mc|8|nt|KingCur: Mini NT becoming more and more popular, no doubt because of its strong preemptive value. It's tough to compete against a bid that hasn't shown a color|pg|| pg|| qx|c2|st||md|4SK82HJ2DKJT73CJ95,S9653HA9654D8CAK2,SAJTHQ73DA954CT83,SQ74HKT8DQ62CQ764|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|d8|pg|| pc|d3|pc|h5|pc|d5|pc|d6|pg|| nt|fabsayc: good morning|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|nt|yuval10: good morning|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h4|nt|bebechira: hi Martin..thx for help|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d7|pc|h6|pc|d9|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|c5|pg|| nt|bebechira: hi Yuval :)|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c8|pc|c6|pc|c9|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|c7|pc|s2|pc|s3|mc|8|pg|| qx|o3|st||md|1S652HQ3D97CT98642,S3H9642DAT52CA753,SK87HT875DKQJ4CQJ,SAQJT94HAKJD863CK|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|d|nt|KingCur: So, first blood to Orange White|pg|| nt|ahollan1: EW system over 1N 1N-2@C-2@D-2@H would be FG Relay so de Wijs had to use the transfer sequence|pg|| mb|3C!|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: in 1st/2nd seat i belive NS 1@D promises 5+@D or 4441@C|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|cT|pc|c3|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|s8|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|c5|pc|sK|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|dT|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cJ|pc|d6|pc|c2|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| nt|KingCur: West may well end up with 12 tricks here|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hQ|mc|12|pg|| qx|c3|st||md|1S652HQ3D97CT98642,S3H9642DAT52CA753,SK87HT875DKQJ4CQJ,SAQJT94HAKJD863CK|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|d|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: 3nt is the easiest|pg|| nt|yuval10: yes seem to be better than 4@s|pg|| mb|p|nt|vugraphzba: Runningscores from the other Semifinal at http://eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/15Tromso/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/knockoutphaseconditstatMultievColour...|pg|| nt|vugraphzba: s.asp?qtournid=1110&qroundno=1&qphase=SF|pg|| mb|p|pc|dK|nt|vugraphzba: http://eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/15Tromso/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/knockoutphaseconditstatMultievColours.asp?qtournid=1110&qroundno=1&qphase=SF|pg|| nt|fabsayc: duck one round of diamonds, then spade hook safe|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d6|pc|d9|pc|dA|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|sQ|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|h4|pc|s8|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s5|pc|c5|pc|sK|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d8|nt|yuval10: he can see 5 @s 2@h 1@d and at least 1 @c so easy for him|pg|| nt|yuval10: now making 10 tricks|pg|| mc|10|nt|fabsayc: was anyway, on club return would have dropped heart queen|pg|| nt|Aurora: Hello all @H Running score here: http://eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/15Tromso/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/knockoutphaseconditstatMultievColours.asp?qtournid=1110&qroundno=1&qphase=SF|pg|| nt|Aurora: Live video for this room on Channel 5: http://livebridge.net/bbo/wbf/2015tromso.php?chp=OC&dsp=ytb|pg|| nt|vugraphzba: Toiletbreak.|pg|| nt|vugraphzba: Back.|pg|| pg|| qx|o4|st||md|2ST654HJ962DJT52CK,SKQJH7DK93CAT9872,S973HAKT54DA876CQ,SA82HQ83DQ4CJ6543|sv|b|mb|2C!|nt|KingCur: So 2 imps back for Kyuppenen, who incidentally is Muller-De Wijs' Russian sponsor|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@C = 10-14/15 6+@C|pg|| nt|KingCur: I would guess Kyuppenen to be Finnish, but apparently it isn't :)|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Orange White leads by 2 imps but Khyuppenen leads BAM 2-1|pg|| mb|2H|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|nt|KingCur: First big swing coming here|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|h7|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@C preempted EW auction|pg|| mc|11|nt|ahollan1: for Tarzan 3@H would show shortness|pg|| nt|KingCur: OR opened 1@C and rebid 4@C after East's 1@S (trsf) response over the 1@H overcall. That was enough for East to bid game|pg|| nt|ahollan1: not sure if 4@C was INV or just more preemptive than 3@C|pg|| pg|| qx|c4|st||md|2ST654HJ962DJT52CK,SKQJH7DK93CAT9872,S973HAKT54DA876CQ,SA82HQ83DQ4CJ6543|sv|b|mb|1C!|nt|yuval10: they can afford many breaks here, already 2 boards ahead of the other room|pg|| nt|yuval10: not surprising considering who plays there.....|pg|| mb|1H|mb|1S|an|alerted|nt|fabsayc: part of why i picked this room|pg|| nt|yuval10: anyway looks like EW can make a game in @c here, also 3NT but more likely to play their 11 cards fit|pg|| nt|fabsayc: 1@S i believe is the equivalent of a 1nt response|pg|| mb|3H!|nt|yuval10: 0-3 spades|pg|| mb|4C|mb|p|nt|yuval10: probably deny 5 @d's and that's why W felt he can rebid his @c's in the 4 level|pg|| nt|fabsayc: soft 9 but vul game, surely has to be bid|pg|| mb|5C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|h7|pg|| nt|vugraphzba: claiming before N plays.|pg|| mc|11|nt|yuval10: he wasn't affraid of any ruff|pg|| pg|| qx|o5|st||md|3SQT4HDKQ84CAQ9865,S7H986DAJ976CKT42,SJ862HAJ7543D53C3,SAK953HKQT2DT2CJ7|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|ahollan1: i don't think EW [or any precision/polish pairs] have way to show pure INV raise after 2@C|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@S denies 5+@H|pg|| nt|Authau: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLiJx6TbrcM Hi all, live video for this room|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|nt|KingCur: NS in danger here, but so were NS in OR|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s7|pc|s8|pg|| nt|KingCur: Verbeek got out undoubled though, so another big swing for NS|pg|| nt|KingCur: Maybe West should have doubled 2NT? Touger for EW here, I think, since a NV 1@S can be as little as 10|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sT|pc|d7|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|h6|pc|s6|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|c5|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hT|pc|d4|pc|h9|pg|| nt|ahollan1: did Sternik's 3@C rebid make it so much easier for Nab to start DBLs? |pg|| nt|ahollan1: or was the real difference 1@S being limited opener in this room|pg|| nt|KingCur: I'd say it's both, Al?|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c6|nt|ahollan1: you're probably right Cor|pg|| pc|cT|pc|h4|pc|c7|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hQ|mc|6|nt|odysseus69: the word these days is "its a bidders game" - noone says the corollary "its a doublers game"- the old advice still applies "if the opponents are not making some doubled contracts ...|pg|| nt|odysseus69: you are not doubling enough"|pg|| pg|| qx|c5|st||md|3SQT4HDKQ84CAQ9865,S7H986DAJ976CKT42,SJ862HAJ7543D53C3,SAK953HKQT2DT2CJ7|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2C|mb|p|nt|yuval10: overcall of 2@c is natural, then P P X ?|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|d|nt|yuval10: i love to play 2 over 2 in those situation as tollerence with the suit partner overcalled|pg|| mb|3H|mb|d|nt|fabsayc: wow, fast double|pg|| nt|yuval10: for this exact reason|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: or a better hand|pg|| pc|sA|nt|yuval10: should be down 3 with top @s lead|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s7|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sT|nt|fabsayc: probably 800 versus nothing|pg|| nt|blum1956: both N's bids are questionable|pg|| pc|c2|pc|s8|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|h6|pc|s6|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|dK|pg|| nt|yuval10: 2 very good hands in a row to the young Dutch team ( at least 3 of them are actually younger than me )|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|yuval10: won 10 on the previous one and looks like they'll pick up a nice swing here too|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|sJ|pc|h2|pg|| pc|s5|pc|c5|pc|h8|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hT|pc|c6|pc|h9|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|c8|pc|c4|pg|| pc|hK|pc|c9|pc|d7|pc|h4|pg|| mc|6|pg|| qx|o6|st||md|4ST74H864DK763CJT5,SQ853HKT7DJ52CK32,SAKJHAQJ32D9C9864,S962H95DAQT84CAQ7|sv|e|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2H|mb|d!|nt|KingCur: Specs asking what made S rebid 2NT with a void. Maybe he sensed that the auction was smelly?|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@D = 11-15, 3+@D unbal or 2+@D weak NT|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: DBL = 3@S|pg|| mb|p|pc|d9|nt|ahollan1: Matushkso in 4@H north - Sterkin raised to 3@H over the Support DBL|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|d5|pg|| nt|KingCur: Not much right here in 2@S|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h7|nt|odysseus69: works well for declarer if defence take a ruff but queen play might suggest a heaRT SWITCH|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h5|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cA|pc|cJ|pc|c3|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|s8|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cQ|nt|runnerup: hi 100 here so 6|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c2|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s7|pc|s3|pc|sK|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Cor mentioned that Orange White handily won the Swiss Qualifier|pg|| nt|ahollan1: but nobody mentioned the other semiFinalist ranking in Swiss -- 13 [Khyuppenen] and other match 15 & 16|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c7|pc|cT|pc|cK|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|sA|pc|d4|pc|d7|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|h4|pc|hT|pg|| pc|h2|pc|d8|pc|h6|pc|hK|pg|| nt|odysseus69: i missed the demise of Monaco yesterday who I had as joint favourites with Orange White|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|c6|st||md|4ST74H864DK763CJT5,SQ853HKT7DJ52CK32,SAKJHAQJ32D9C9864,S962H95DAQT84CAQ7|sv|e|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2H|mb|d!|an|3!s|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|yuval10: 3@h here questionable too|pg|| pc|s6|nt|yuval10: he has 0 working points on offense and 4-3-3-3 |pg|| pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| nt|fabsayc: good general rule, avoid marginal raises without a trump honour|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d5|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s7|pc|s8|pc|sK|pg|| nt|blum1956: Depends on the style. 3@h may be week enough in this vulnerability. But I agree it is better to have an honour|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s9|pc|sT|pc|s3|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cT|pc|c2|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|c8|pg|| nt|yuval10: back to board 5, other room played 3@h as well , but not X'd by E , so 11 imps for the Dutch|pg|| pc|s5|nt|blum1956: The start is unhappy for the Russian team. Still 50 boards to go.|pg|| nt|fabsayc: nice defense though|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|d6|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|c9|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hA|pc|d8|pc|h6|pc|hT|pg|| pc|h3|pc|dT|pc|h8|pc|hK|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|hQ|pc|dQ|pc|d7|pg|| pg|| qx|o7|st||md|1SAK5HJT62DT65CKJ4,S96HAQ54DA982C732,SJ874HK9DKJ74CQT6,SQT32H873DQ3CA985|sv|b|mb|1C!|mb|p|nt|odysseus69: ill judged 3 heart bid next door followed by ill judged4 heart bid|pg|| mb|1H!|mb|p|nt|KingCur: Monaco were in a very close match when Fantunes had a very rare misunderstanding in the bidding, which cost a lot vulnerable |pg|| mb|1S!|nt|ahollan1: getting a lot of requests for link to running scores - no bookmarks after a week of play??|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: they are all on vugraph now -- but click on table name pop-up has link to tourney home page then results|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|nt|KingCur: Not saying that caused them to lose, but it was one of the decisive boardds for sure|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|KingCur: http://eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/15Tromso/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/knockoutphaseconditstatMultievColours.asp?qtournid=1110&qroundno=1&qphase=SF|pg|| nt|BroLucius: Monaco had two unlucky slam swings too, losing by just 11 IMPs.|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@C = 2+|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@H = 4+@S|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@S = a) BAL, 12-14 b) 3-fit|pg|| pc|h7|nt|ahollan1: so 2/3@S if bal|pg|| pc|h2|nt|KingCur: With so many very expert commentators having entered the room meanwhile, I will respectfully step back. Enjoy the match!|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i think one of best aspects of transfer responses to 1@C is opener being able to rebid 1N to show hand too strong for opening 1N|pg|| pc|h4|nt|odysseus69: looks normal for West to duck|pg|| pc|h9|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|h6|pc|hA|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|d5|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|c6|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d3|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cQ|nt|ahollan1: i believe the russian pair that is sitting out this set also plays T-Walsh [transfer walsh]|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|cT|pg|| nt|ahollan1: not sure about matushko-sterkin i was only able to find one old CC for matushko with another partner playing Polish Club|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|s4|pc|h3|pg|| nt|odysseus69: should have ducked club|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c7|st||md|1SAK5HJT62DT65CKJ4,S96HAQ54DA982C732,SJ874HK9DKJ74CQT6,SQT32H873DQ3CA985|sv|b|nt|yuval10: all pass?|pg|| nt|yuval10: probably S will open|pg|| mb|1C!|mb|p|nt|yuval10: perhaps in the early days it was, but in modern days and the success of destructive biddings every 11 count is an opener|pg|| nt|yuval10: and so does a 12 count with 4-3-3-3|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: this hand i open, 11's no, and maybe not without heart ten|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|h2|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s9|pc|s7|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s5|pc|c7|pc|s8|pc|sT|pg|| nt|fabsayc: i dont like this line of play at all, generating extra losers|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|h9|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|d5|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|d6|pc|d8|pc|d7|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|dJ|pg|| mc|6|pg|| qx|o8|st||md|2SA63HJ6DAJ82CKT93,SQJ742HQ87DKTCQJ8,SKT5HK432D64CA742,S98HAT95DQ9753C65|sv|o|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|p!|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: Tarzan Precision responder to limited opener PASS more often than rest of world|pg|| pc|s2|nt|ahollan1: becaue 1N response is FG RELAY |pg|| pc|sT|pc|s9|pc|s3|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|c8|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|c9|pc|cJ|pg|| nt|ahollan1: in women's final baker 31-0 boards 2-5 but China Orange 10 imps on 1|pg|| nt|ahollan1: finals of Seniors and Women both on vugraph - playing same set of boards as Open SemiFinal|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|s8|pc|sA|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cQ|pc|c4|pc|h5|pg|| nt|ahollan1: should have mentioned NS Balancing 1N vs minor 11-14 vs major 11-16|pg|| pc|cT|pc|s4|pc|c7|nt|ahollan1: Mike Lawrence|pg|| pc|d5|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s7|pc|sK|nt|ahollan1: Mike Lawrence's seminal book Complete Book of Balancing did great job of explaining reason for different ranges|pg|| nt|ahollan1: and i believe [relatively] recent 2nd Edition published|pg|| nt|ahollan1: many of his other "Complete Book of ..." have also had new editions|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|d8|pc|dT|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|d9|pc|dA|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|h8|pc|h3|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h7|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg|| nt|odysseus69: e-w bidding in CR is not how to respond to a weak NT|pg|| nt|ahollan1: speaking of 2nd Edition of classic books -- bridgewinners thread mentioning Kit Woolsey recent release of 2nd Edition of Matchpoints|pg|| pg|| qx|c8|st||md|2SA63HJ6DAJ82CKT93,SQJ742HQ87DKTCQJ8,SKT5HK432D64CA742,S98HAT95DQ9753C65|sv|o|mb|1N!|mb|p|nt|yuval10: NS needs to regroup because even though it's (very) early in the match, it's not a good idea to let your opp build a very comfortable lead from the early beginning|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2S!|mb|p|mb|3C!|mb|p|mb|3D!|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|yuval10: they'll probably register their first + score here |pg|| nt|fabsayc: 3@C is a secondary transfer, an idea popularized by the Scanian book series|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|dT|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|d5|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c6|pc|cK|pc|c8|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|nt|blum1956: This looks like a typical NV mini-Nt auction: push the opp's away from the bidding for any price|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s8|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|s9|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h7|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d8|pc|s4|pc|sT|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|s7|pc|c2|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sQ|nt|blum1956: But you often go too too high - 2@c is the NS only possible contract|pg|| mc|6|pg|| qx|o9|st||md|3SQ982HA32D73C9852,SJ6543HJ9DKJ86CJ3,SHT6DAQT42CAQT764,SAKT7HKQ8754D95CK|sv|e|mb|4N!|mb|d|nt|odysseus69: C LAASS|pg|| mb|5C|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: slightly different auction in other room :)|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|runnerup: slam on open cards|pg|| nt|odysseus69: classic use of 4NT not needed by moderns - so both minors now|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Matushko opened 1@D and is playing 3@C|pg|| nt|ahollan1: most convention cards i see that list 4N opener use it to ask for Specific Aces|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h8|pc|hA|pg|| nt|odysseus69: better not take club finesse but probably will|pg|| nt|blum1956: 5@c doubled other room|pg|| nt|blum1956: S playing, @h lead to the Ace|pg|| nt|ahollan1: seems transportation problems suggest @D play now|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cK|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Rabbi's Rule violation|pg|| pc|hK|nt|odysseus69: yes -diamond would work well - end with overtrick - would then drop c king|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h9|pc|hT|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Rabbi's Rule: when kingleton offside - play the ace [aka Rule of 1]|pg|| nt|odysseus69: down now- |pg|| pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cA|pc|h4|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|c7|pc|h5|pc|c9|pc|s4|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|d3|pc|d6|pg|| pc|d2|mc|10|pg|| qx|c9|st||md|3SQ982HA32D73C9852,SJ6543HJ9DKJ86CJ3,SHT6DAQT42CAQT764,SAKT7HKQ8754D95CK|sv|e|nt|yuval10: this should be an interesting one, NS can do many tricks in @c contract|pg|| mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|d!|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|blum1956: After South did not pass it looks like NS have a good chance to climb up to 5@c|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|yuval10: i think N slightly underbid his hand here|pg|| nt|blum1956: BBut Matushko was extremely careful for some reason|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s5|nt|yuval10: when @d finesse works he'll give only 1 @h and (probably ) the K@c|pg|| pc|c4|pg|| nt|fabsayc: a reaction to previous boards|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|h9|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|hJ|pc|hT|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h3|nt|blum1956: That way he takes only 10|pg|| pc|s6|pc|c7|pg|| pc|cA|mc|11|nt|fabsayc: seems logical to me to start with diamonds|pg|| pg|| qx|o10|st||md|4SQT7H87DJ4CAK7542,S5HAJ5DAQ98765CJ8,SAJ63H642DKT3CQ96,SK9842HKQT93D2CT3|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D!|nt|runnerup: he can make 12 even with finess to @d Q|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|nt|ahollan1: 1@D = 3+@D unbal or 2+@D weak NT|pg|| mb|2C|mb|3D|nt|ahollan1: 3@D denies 3@S [Support DBL]|pg|| nt|ahollan1: east hand shows why many now play reverse flannery response |pg|| mb|p|mb|3H!|mb|p|mb|4D|nt|ahollan1: not sure about 3@H bid [versus pass] or the alert|pg|| nt|odysseus69: can t believe East will do any more|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c6|nt|ahollan1: but may be worth mentioning 1@D-P-1@S-P-3@D would show 6@D 3@S|pg|| nt|runnerup: north waiting if he can double ,,but not -2 anyway|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|c8|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|cT|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|sT|pc|h5|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|dT|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|mc|8|nt|ahollan1: i don't think reverse flannery gets you to 4@H but it might get you to @H partscore|pg|| nt|ahollan1: of course west hand may still just focus on 7@D|pg|| nt|ahollan1: suit|pg|| nt|ahollan1: other semifinal 43 imps exchanged but only net 3 for Slufsa over Noralia|pg|| pg|| qx|c10|st||md|4SQT7H87DJ4CAK7542,S5HAJ5DAQ98765CJ8,SAJ63H642DKT3CQ96,SK9842HKQT93D2CT3|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H!|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h6|pc|hK|nt|vugraphzba: Fixing the score on board 8 on the bridgemate.|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|c8|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|cA|pc|d8|pc|c6|pc|h3|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|s2|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|s4|nt|yuval10: doesn't seem easy to bid the making 4@h here|pg|| pc|h7|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s7|pc|s5|pg|| mc|8|nt|yuval10: perhaps in the other room S will overcall 2@c|pg|| nt|yuval10: over 1@s|pg|| pg|| qx|o11|st||md|1ST864HAKQ63DCAT52,SA532HJ5DAQT82CJ7,SK9HT9872DK653C96,SQJ7H4DJ974CKQ843|sv|o|nt|odysseus69: over Souths 2 club bid it looks enough for West to bid 2D-since ass was an option|pg|| mb|1H|mb|d|nt|ahollan1: DBL with west shape explains why 2 conventions exist: Raptor 1N overcall and ELC [Equal Level Conversion]|pg|| nt|odysseus69: the double on West is now standard because if partner bids 2 clubs then now all play that 2D does not promise extras - only diamonds and spades|pg|| nt|ahollan1: in the latter DBL followed by correction of @C advance to @D does NOT promise extra values|pg|| nt|runnerup: @h lead and i cant see 11 tricks ..west ducks @s ofcourse|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: Tarzan definitely NOT putting any pressure on opponents this set|pg|| pc|h5|nt|runnerup: lead is perfect |pg|| pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|h6|pg|| nt|ahollan1: if NS vul would Muller still PASS 4@H?|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c6|pg|| nt|odysseus69: more case for bidding if N/S vul - but not good to ask me - I under-sacrifice|pg|| nt|runnerup: lucky as @s 7 drpping|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hJ|pc|h7|pc|c8|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|sK|pc|s7|pg|| nt|runnerup: or Q as it is ..|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c9|pc|c4|pc|c2|pg|| nt|BroLucius: Roland, my computer is screwed by garage man switching off power at wrong moment. Windows currently attempting to repair it.|pg|| pc|s5|nt|ahollan1: i feel compelled to ask --- what is a "garage man"|pg|| pc|d3|pc|sQ|pc|s8|pg|| mc|9|nt|BroLucius: Mending automatic garage door.|pg|| nt|runnerup: this Molenaar has not the best day|pg|| nt|ahollan1: ah now it makes sense to me David :)|pg|| pg|| qx|c11|st||md|1ST864HAKQ63DCAT52,SA532HJ5DAQT82CJ7,SK9HT9872DK653C96,SQJ7H4DJ974CKQ843|sv|o|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|4H|mb|4N!|nt|yuval10: 4NT minors now?|pg|| nt|vugraphzba: Writing down now.|pg|| nt|fabsayc: i would double, wrong shape for minors|pg|| nt|vugraphzba: cant see.|pg|| mb|p|mb|5D|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h9|nt|yuval10: in 5@d ( persumably X ), def. needs to switch to @s after the natural @h lead|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hJ|nt|yuval10: then N can stop the trumps with the K@d, come back to S with the A@c and get a spade ruff|pg|| pc|hT|pc|d4|pg|| nt|yuval10: however S here had another idea, not really sure of what|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|h3|pc|d2|nt|fabsayc: ok for maximum, but spade king never disappearing|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| pc|c3|nt|yuval10: yes but he won't get the @s ruff....|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c9|pg|| pc|s6|mc|9|nt|yuval10: so i don't think this was a max. def|pg|| pg|| qx|o12|st||md|2SKT432HJT42D97CK3,SQ76HKQ86DAKT42CJ,SJ85H93DJ6CAQT764,SA9HA75DQ853C9852|sv|n|nt|ahollan1: i think 11 qualifies as very lucky pickup for Khyuppenen|pg|| mb|1D!|nt|odysseus69: are there other Molenaars?|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|nt|ahollan1: 1@D = 11-15, 3+@D unbal or weak NT|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|nt|ahollan1: 1N = they've changed system :(|pg|| nt|odysseus69: good hand for system|pg|| nt|ahollan1: historically 1N = RELAY, FG|pg|| nt|runnerup: 3nt has a lucky day also or do you think south leads @c K|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S!|mb|p|mb|2N|nt|odysseus69: they managed well in CR - would like to hear explanation of bidding there - can you help Al?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: other room 1@D was 4+@D 2@D inverted raise|pg|| nt|odysseus69: 2NT shows club singleton maybe in response to relay? obviously not in light of long delay|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|odysseus69: I think the long delay meant - I am not sure what 2S means or what the system requires|pg|| pc|s2|nt|ahollan1: not sure about the 2@S rebid i know some Dutch Doubleton pairs play it as short @S|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|s9|pg|| nt|ahollan1: was just checking to see if i'd seen the rebid from other Dutch Doubleton pairs :)|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|d7|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|d9|pg|| nt|odysseus69: lucky E-W here - |pg|| mc|10|nt|runnerup: and also J against 9852 can prevent them to overtake ..if somehow blocked|pg|| pg|| qx|c12|st||md|2SKT432HJT42D97CK3,SQ76HKQ86DAKT42CJ,SJ85H93DJ6CAQT764,SA9HA75DQ853C9852|sv|n|mb|1D|nt|yuval10: here EW can make 5@d, or perhaps even 4@h, even with a force in @c|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2S!|mb|p|mb|2N!|mb|p|mb|3C!|mb|d|nt|yuval10: i'm told that 2@s indicate of shortness, 2NT relay and 3@c short and minimum|pg|| nt|yuval10: thanks to Luc Tijssen for his contribute|pg|| mb|5D|mb|p|nt|yuval10: after the 3@c and the X, E's hand became much stronger|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|yuval10: some ( including me ) play that 4@c here from him show max hand with no waisted points|pg|| nt|vugraphzba: both ccs for orange white rae here http://livebridge.net/bbo/wbf/2015tromso.php?chp=OC&dsp=tms&tcat=OPEN&team=TEAM%20ORANGE%20WHITE|pg|| pc|h9|nt|yuval10: not sure the bidding was different if W had the K@s instead of Q@s and J@c and of course the might be missing a decent slam|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h6|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dJ|pc|d5|pc|d9|pg|| nt|blum1956: The natural auction 1@D - 2@D - 2@H - 2NT - 3NT would have led to the right position 3NT, the @C lead not that probable|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|s9|pc|sK|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o13|st||md|3S76HA852DK752CJ92,ST982HJ96DQTCK754,SAK543HQT4D964CQ8,SQJHK73DAJ83CAT63|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1N = 15-17|pg|| pc|h2|nt|ahollan1: 14 is final board of the segment|pg|| nt|ahollan1: this match is 4x14|pg|| nt|odysseus69: natural bidders playing inverted minors have no problem - 1D-2D- 2H- 2S-start- only danger is getting to 6D|pg|| nt|runnerup: that is his favorit contract ..|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|hK|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|sK|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|h8|pc|c4|pc|d4|pc|c3|pg|| nt|runnerup: we waited you to look this |pg|| pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s7|pc|s8|pc|s3|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pc|d6|pg|| nt|ahollan1: other semifinal 1 to play Slufsa over Noralia by TWO|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|d8|pc|d5|pg|| nt|ahollan1: thru 10 in women's final Baker over China Orange by 31|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 4 to score in Seniors Final Take +16 over Take|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c6|nt|ahollan1: all matches on vugraph|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cK|pg|| pc|sT|nt|ahollan1: click on name of table pop-up has vugraph schedule AND link to tourney home page|pg|| nt|ahollan1: this has been a recording|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c13|st||md|3S76HA852DK752CJ92,ST982HJ96DQTCK754,SAK543HQT4D964CQ8,SQJHK73DAJ83CAT63|sv|b|nt|fabsayc: west could bid 3s on his third turn, showing singleton by inference, and reach safer 5d that way|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|nt|yuval10: sparking of board 11, i really doubt that 4@h was down 1 in the other room|pg|| nt|yuval10: *speaking|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h5|pc|h9|nt|yuval10: declarer can afford losing 3@h's, 2@s's and a @d here|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hK|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|sK|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|dT|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dQ|pc|d4|pc|d8|pg|| nt|fabsayc: spade now|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|sQ|pc|s7|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h7|pc|h2|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|h8|mc|7|nt|vugraphzba: Geir Harnes operating in open, so i am sure 4@h down is correct becouse of that.|pg|| pg|| qx|o14|st||md|4S542HT6542D72C987,S983HKJ8DQJ9863C5,SAKQ6H973DAK5CQ42,SJT7HAQDT4CAKJT63|sv|o|mb|2C!|nt|Aurora: Many thanks @H to all commentators, operators and kibitzers, see you in about 30 minutes for the next round. |pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: final board of the set|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2nd quarter begins in about 30 minutes|pg|| mb|3D!|mb|d|nt|ahollan1: 2@C = 10-14/15 6+@C|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c5|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c8|pc|d6|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c9|pc|h8|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dA|nt|odysseus69: this is last - thx all|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d2|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|hK|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|sT|pc|s2|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pg|| mc|8|nt|ahollan1: is there legit way for EW to realize they can score another @C ruff?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: verbeek-molenaar definitely had a better set than tarzan|pg|| nt|vugraphzam: Results in all competitions from here: http://eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/15Tromso/microsite/Results.htm|pg|| nt|vugraphzam: Bye|pg|| pg|| qx|c14|st||md|4S542HT6542D72C987,S983HKJ8DQJ9863C5,SAKQ6H973DAK5CQ42,SJT7HAQDT4CAKJT63|sv|o|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1D!|mb|d|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Aurora: Many thanks @H to all commentators, operators and kibitzers, see you in about 33 min for the next round. |pg|| mb|p|pc|h6|pc|h8|pc|h9|nt|yuval10: the Russian team dudged a bullet on board 12 when S naturally didn't lead K@c|pg|| pc|hA|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h7|pc|dT|pc|h4|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|cJ|nt|yuval10: here the @h lead gave the contract away|pg|| pc|c7|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|s3|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c8|pc|s9|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dK|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|s8|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sT|pc|s5|pc|d6|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pc|s4|pc|d8|pg|| mc|9|nt|fabsayc: thanks operator|pg|| nt|vugraphzba: See you all for the next set in about 30 min.|pg|| nt|vugraphzba: thx commentators:)|pg|| pg||