vg|2015 Sr USBC USA2 FINAL,Segment 6 of 6,I,16,30,Simson,156,Street,164| rs|3NS=,3NS=,3HW-1,3SN=,2HS-3,2SS-1,2CEx-2,3NN-2,3NN-1,3NN-1,4CW-1,3NW=,4NE+3,4NW+3,5HW-1,4SN-1,4SS+1,5HEx=,2HW+1,2HW=,2CS+2,2SN-1,5HE+1,6SW+1,3NW+3,3NW+2,4SN=,5SN-1,3NE+1,3NW+2| pn|D. Clerkin,Passell,J. Clerkin,Wold,Stansby,Zwerling,Bramley,Tolliver|pg|| qx|o16|st||md|2SAQ4H72DAQT75CAK8,SJT76H95DKJ2CT965,SK52HKQ84D864CJ73,S983HAJT63D93CQ42|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|marlowepi: welcome back all to the final final segment of a match that became exciting in the penutimate chukker|pg|| mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|2D!|an|8-10 Balanced |mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sT|nt|meargent: USA2 finals or the big @C convention everyone in the 2 rooms play big@C|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s9|pc|s4|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d9|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|meargent: EW in CR play canapes a very tasty system|pg|| nt|marlowepi: NS just have too much ammo|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hK|nt|marlowepi: i used to play canapes sativa, but gave it up|pg|| nt|kit: hi everybody|pg|| nt|marlowepi: hi kit|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Wold asks what 1NT in 4th chair would be 14-16, so this is 17+|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h7|pc|h5|nt|meargent: still like the wat u played 4@Hs in last session it was an eye opener|pg|| nt|meargent: kit that is|pg|| pc|hQ|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|h3|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s2|mc|9|pg|| qx|c16|st||md|2SAQ4H72DAQT75CAK8,SJT76H95DKJ2CT965,SK52HKQ84D864CJ73,S983HAJT63D93CQ42|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C!|an|strong, artificial|mb|p|mb|2D|an|8-10 balanced|nt|ahollan1: 1@C =16+ unbal or 17+ bal|pg|| nt|ahollan1: sorry 4th seat 16+ unbal or 18+ bal|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@D = BAL, 8-10|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: EW signals upside down everything [attitude, count, suit pref, smith] except trick 1 after lead of K vs suit|pg|| pc|sT|nt|ahollan1: Rusinow [2nd of touching honors] vs NT and suit|pg|| nt|rduran1216: looks like this comes in even with about 4 cards in the wrong spot|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|s4|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|ahollan1: tie is possible, but otherwise this is final 15 boards of the USA2 Final|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|sA|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|s3|nt|ahollan1: winner plays the 2015 D'Orsi Senior Bowl in Chennai India in late September|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s7|pc|s5|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|d9|pg|| nt|ahollan1: USA1 determined earlier this week Reese Milner-Hemant Lall, Bob Hamman-Mark Lair, Michael Rosenberg-Zia Mahmood|pg|| nt|rduran1216: q of diamonds :)|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|d8|nt|rduran1216: or that|pg|| pc|hJ|pg|| nt|ahollan1: sorry aaron|pg|| pc|sJ|mc|9|pg|| qx|o17|st||md|3SQHK984DA8654CA52,SK92HA632DQJ9CJ96,SJT76543HTD72CK83,SA8HQJ75DKT3CQT74|sv|o|mb|2S|mb|d|mb|p|nt|meargent: WILL HE OR WONT HE?|pg|| mb|3H|an|shows values|nt|meargent: sorry|pg|| nt|marlowepi: E will need to avoid heart queen lead against 4S|pg|| nt|meargent: an old mans weak 2bid|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|marlowepi: ah well|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|Vugraphzfb: Before this hand, Wold asked what the score was at the start of the segment. All agreed it was 8. Passell: "he'd play differently if it was 7"|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sQ|pc|s2|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|hT|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|s7|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c3|pc|c4|nt|meargent: good stop EW|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d7|pc|dK|nt|meargent: very tough after TOX |pg|| pc|dA|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|s3|pc|dT|pc|d4|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|c5|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s8|pc|h9|pc|s9|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c17|st||md|3SQHK984DA8654CA52,SK92HA632DQJ9CJ96,SJT76543HTD72CK83,SA8HQJ75DKT3CQT74|sv|o|nt|rduran1216: had RHO started with K9xx it would've been necessary to do that|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraphzfe: Zwerling writing questions about style for NS here|pg|| nt|rduran1216: granted given the heart layout it's not but Lew can't really know that|pg|| mb|p|pc|hJ|nt|ahollan1: another Rusinow honor lead -- just to confirm they are used against both NT & Suit :)|pg|| nt|rduran1216: :)|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|hT|pg|| nt|ady: think this might make on this lead|pg|| nt|rduran1216: ye olde double loser on loser play|pg|| nt|ady: unless the 4th heart from west gives the defence a trump promotion|pg|| pc|c9|nt|ady: sorry hearts 4-4 |pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c2|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|sQ|pc|s2|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|dQ|pc|d7|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h2|pc|d2|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s8|pc|d5|pc|sK|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|cA|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h3|pc|c8|pc|h5|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d9|pc|s7|pc|dK|pg|| pc|sT|nt|ahollan1: Jerry Clerkin opened 2@S Passell playing 3@H west|pg|| mc|9|nt|rduran1216: a minor sweat for Bart there though any card works as the cards lie|pg|| nt|ahollan1: that was fun to watch|pg|| pg|| qx|o18|st||md|4SAQJ84HA972DA72C3,ST7653HQJ5DK3CAT2,S9HT4DQT8654CQ875,SK2HK863DJ9CKJ964|sv|n|mb|1D|an|2+|nt|meargent: 3nt might be better but only better from wests point of view if east has @S honor|pg|| mb|1S|mb|1N|nt|meargent: unlikely|pg|| nt|kit: I doubt if North can bid 2@D naturally here|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|Rodal F: 1@D alerted I hope|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: An effect of Precision 1@D opening. And N-S get saddled in their 6-card fit.|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: They've pretty much stopped alerting 1@c and 1@d since all playing those the same|pg|| mb|p|pc|hQ|nt|kit: Maybe North should have taken his chances in 3@D, but it is scary whatever he does.|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Jerry & Wold laughing about something. Wold "Jerry's got the biiig dummy"|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|hA|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s9|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s3|pc|c5|pc|sK|pg|| nt|marlowepi: well you sort of need a cuebid in this situation and 2D is only one available|pg|| nt|kit: In other room East opened 1@H, so we may see both pairs on Simson team playing 2@H|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|hJ|pc|hT|pg|| nt|meargent: thats not the only thing thats big about jerry|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|d9|pc|dA|pg|| nt|pdlit: at this stage, every imp counts|pg|| nt|kit: That shift didn't exactly pierce declzrer|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|marlowepi: normally when methods can be aimed at the big-ticket items or alternatively at partscore accuracy, the former takes precedence at IMPs|pg|| pc|d5|pc|c4|pc|d7|pc|h5|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c6|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|h7|pg|| nt|ritong: wold claims|pg|| mc|5|nt|Vugraphzfb: RIght you are, Henri - he even said "claim"|pg|| pg|| qx|c18|st||md|4SAQJ84HA972DA72C3,ST7653HQJ5DK3CAT2,S9HT4DQT8654CQ875,SK2HK863DJ9CKJ964|sv|n|mb|1H|nt|ahollan1: 1@H = 10-16, 4+@H and as you see possible canape [2nd suit = LONGER]|pg|| nt|vugraphzfe: many canape auctions for EW, starting with 4-card M when they hold a longer suit (sometimes)|pg|| nt|rduran1216: I'm late to the party I guess e/w are playing canape|pg|| nt|ady: part score hand 3@D for n/s maybe|pg|| nt|rduran1216: ah, slow typist I am, iPhones...|pg|| mb|1S|nt|ady: if they can find it|pg|| mb|2D|an|good heart raise|nt|ahollan1: click on player name to access system summary form and convention card|pg|| nt|ahollan1: then good luck|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|mb|2S|nt|ahollan1: notice that the do NOT require 4-fit to support the major that could be only 4|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hJ|nt|ahollan1: this auction proves again minor suits get no respect|pg|| nt|rduran1216: this kind of sequence is why this stuff gets played, poor Lew is in no mans land here|pg|| pc|h4|nt|vugraphzfe: so Rusinow even in a suit they have bid and raised for EW|pg|| pc|h8|nt|ahollan1: how good does advancer need to be to DBL the artificial 2@D bid?|pg|| pc|hA|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|hT|pc|h3|pg|| nt|ady: south expected partner to be shortish in hearts on the auction but unfortunately is even shorter in spades|pg|| nt|vugraphzfe: double of 2@D (heart raise) could be responsive for them|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|cJ|pc|c3|pg|| nt|phil: I think EW play a form of obvious shift so the @h8 indicates interest in clubs|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|s9|pg|| nt|ahollan1: drat - i forgot to mention that aspect of "attitude" signals focusing on obvious shift|pg|| nt|ahollan1: thanks Phil|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|d4|pc|sK|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|d9|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c4|pc|s4|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h5|pc|d8|pc|hK|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Clerkin's task at finding @D fit was even tougher in open room|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h7|pc|s6|pc|dT|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|s8|pg|| pc|sJ|mc|7|pg|| qx|o19|st||md|1S954H52D54CQT9865,ST832HQJT84DT9CKJ,SAKQ7HAK963DKQJ7C,SJ6H7DA8632CA7432|sv|e|nt|kit: Normal 3@C opener at favorable these days|pg|| nt|kit: Which North will just love|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Passell: "guess it's hard for you guys to find diamonds"|pg|| nt|meargent: i like it|pg|| mb|p|nt|meargent: jerry wont|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|1D!|an|Rank (Majors or minors)|mb|p|mb|1H!|an|pass or correct|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: oh my -- this could be a big number now|pg|| nt|meargent: nowX?|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|nt|ritong: fasten seat belts|pg|| mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfb: Passell asks about DBL "takeout"|pg|| nt|kit: West might have been well-advised to just pass 1@D, as his partner almost certainly has the minors.|pg|| mb|p|pc|h5|nt|meargent: this not a result that neither kit nor me could achieve|pg|| nt|kit: This looks like about 800|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h7|pg|| nt|meargent: sorry double neg:(|pg|| nt|warrens: trump lead better|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sJ|pc|s9|pc|s3|pg|| nt|kit: yes, and probably should have been found.|pg|| pc|sA|pc|c2|pc|s5|pc|s8|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|s7|nt|warrens: but 800 looks pretty certain|pg|| pc|d3|pc|c5|pc|sT|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|c3|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d9|nt|kit: why isn't he leading a trump?|pg|| pc|d7|pg|| pc|d6|pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|warrens: 500 only|pg|| pc|cK|nt|meargent: so @H@H@H|pg|| pc|h3|pc|c4|pc|c8|pg|| nt|kit: now out for down 2.|pg|| mc|6|nt|kit: 3NT by North in other room, after 3@C opener.|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Wold: "why didn't you leave 1@d in?"|pg|| pg|| qx|c19|st||md|1S954H52D54CQT9865,ST832HQJT84DT9CKJ,SAKQ7HAK963DKQJ7C,SJ6H7DA8632CA7432|sv|e|nt|ahollan1: quick 3 & 5 imp pickups for Street|pg|| nt|phil: nothing like playing in a 4-2 when you have a 9 card fit that isn't mentioned|pg|| mb|3C|nt|3for3: what's the right response to 3@C opening?|pg|| nt|3for3: Resign? :)|pg|| nt|vugraphzfe: Zwerling asking Stansby about NS's "style" here|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|nt|ahollan1: Steve Robinson has cute tool over opening 3@C where 3@D asks for 3-card major|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|phil: thats in Sabine's book too|pg|| pc|d2|nt|vugraphzfe: attitude spot leads vs NT for EW|pg|| pc|d4|nt|3for3: nasty heart division makes this game improbable (never say impossible)|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|h2|pc|h8|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dK|nt|3for3: the 7 of diamonds freezes the diamonds for the defense|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d5|pg|| nt|3for3: not just a beer card|pg|| pc|hA|nt|rduran1216: much needed swing coming for simson team|pg|| pc|c7|pc|h5|pc|h4|pg|| nt|3for3: indeed, 3nt failing will make the match very close.|pg|| nt|rduran1216: Bart hopelessly trying to construct a relevant layout now I imagine|pg|| nt|vugraphzfe: it is a happy situation as S when partner opens strong club and you get a chance to defend clubs doubled|pg|| pc|hK|pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|s8|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sJ|pc|s5|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|c2|pc|s9|pc|s2|pg|| nt|3for3: 12 imps to Simson, making the margin just 4|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|c6|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|d8|pc|c8|nt|ahollan1: keep your seat belts buckled until the match comes to a complete stop|pg|| pc|hT|pc|d7|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c9|pc|cJ|pc|h6|pg|| pc|sT|mc|7|pg|| qx|o20|st||md|2SKQ96H74DQT9CA985,SJT8743HK2D63CK32,SAHAJ85DAJ54CJ764,S52HQT963DK872CQT|sv|b|nt|Vugraphzfb: Guess he should be playing with you, Kit|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D!|an|2+|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|ritong: the good old rebid decision with 1444|pg|| mb|2C|an|alerted by S |mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|kit: not a decision with Precision -- partner isn't expecting more than this.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: And now on to the ugly 3NT.|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Wold asks about 2@c - 54 either way in minors or 1435 or 1444|pg|| nt|meargent: @S looks best|pg|| nt|kit: This could be close -- declarer can take 3 diamonds, 1 club, 1 heart, 3 spades easily|pg|| nt|ritong: yes i find " ugly" a bit excessive:)|pg|| nt|kit: but 9 might be tricky, since setting up a club trick means losing 2 club tricks, which might be 5 for defense.|pg|| pc|h6|nt|warrens: hard to avoid 3NT with 26|pg|| nt|kit: Difficult lead problem -- but heart lead is probably effective here.|pg|| nt|warrens: since they seem to bid most of them with 24|pg|| nt|kit: Declarer will win, cross to ace of clubs, and take diamond finesse I guess.|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Passell to Dennis: "good one" D nods|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hK|nt|marlowepi: well he also has issues with scoring the spades late|pg|| nt|kit: Or he might duck a club when the 10 appears.|pg|| nt|meargent: think @S lead makes def much easier|pg|| nt|meargent: im betting on jerry|pg|| nt|kit: It turns out declarer's best play after losing a diamond finesse may be to play a heart himself, to cut the defensive communications.|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|h9|pc|h7|pg|| nt|kit: This is not best -- now defense has 2 heart tricks in pocket.|pg|| nt|ritong: wold now knows the 1444|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s6|nt|kit: And it seems they will get 1 diamond and 2 clubs in the fullness of time.|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sA|pg|| nt|warrens: I agree, this seems unlikely to work|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|dK|pg|| pc|h3|pc|c8|pc|s8|pc|hA|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|d6|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|c7|pc|hT|pg|| pc|dT|mc|8|pg|| qx|c20|st||md|2SKQ96H74DQT9CA985,SJT8743HK2D63CK32,SAHAJ85DAJ54CJ764,S52HQT963DK872CQT|sv|b|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1N = 14-16 or 1@D = 10-15, 2+@D?|pg|| nt|3for3: 1@D|pg|| mb|1D!|an|10-15 2+ diamonds|mb|1H|mb|d|nt|phil: regardless, the fnal destination will be 3N|pg|| nt|ady: n/s will play 3NT the defence may prevail|pg|| nt|ahollan1: DBL usually 4@S|pg|| nt|3for3: stiff ace is not nearly as good (relatively speaking) as stiff king for off shape 1NTs|pg|| mb|r|nt|ahollan1: many using RDBL to 2-card fit with values|pg|| nt|vugraphzfe: Tolliver thinks the RD is 3 hearts|pg|| nt|ahollan1: does anyone play Rosenkranz these days?|pg|| nt|3for3: This is a little short on 'values' for that action. Might be Hx of hearts, another possible treatment|pg|| nt|rduran1216: I'll have to ask for permission, but this is a "classic/obvious" Shan Huang 1nt|pg|| nt|vugraphzfe: no, he just changed his mind and has written another explanation for the RD - I think he now said ace of K or hearts|pg|| nt|3for3: George is still alive, so I'd think he does|pg|| nt|phil: EW play some really unusual competitive methods|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|nt|phil: its proably spades if I had to guess|pg|| nt|vugraphzfe: "A or K" is on the notepad, but I can't be sure it is what he just wrote (seems likely)|pg|| nt|ahollan1: so that is shades of Rosenkranz|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@C = 54 minors either way, 55, 1444, or 1435|pg|| nt|phil: if it does show Honor-x, its a lot easier to lead a low heart instead of a middle one|pg|| pc|h9|nt|3for3: should be right either way|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Clerkins had same auction without the EW bidding|pg|| nt|phil: Bart can build a heart trick now|pg|| nt|3for3: lots of work for declarer here|pg|| nt|3for3: starts with 6, needs to build 2 diamonds, and a club|pg|| nt|ahollan1: first names around the table w: Mark n: Bart e: Mark s: Lew diag: Joe|pg|| nt|3for3: 3nt failed in other room, so chance for Street to get those 11 imp's back, plus 1|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|d6|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Wold led @H6|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|dK|pg|| nt|3for3: yes, declarer can also power out a heart trick, I guess|pg|| nt|ahollan1: drat i thought for sure i differentiated w: marC from e: marK|pg|| nt|phil: short of entries however|pg|| nt|phil: especially if they return a pointed suit|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|s7|pc|sA|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|s4|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d8|pc|c9|pc|s3|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| nt|phil: needs high spade now (I think)|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|c6|pc|s2|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i''m looking at all the cards and still having trouble with this|pg|| nt|ahollan1: seems @SQ must be abandoned?|pg|| nt|phil: its a complicated hand - dont feel like the lone wolf Al :)|pg|| nt|ahollan1: @C to endplay east?|pg|| nt|vugraphzfe: Bramley apologizes for taking so long|pg|| nt|ahollan1: west can't fly K without setting up @C trick|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pc|c7|pc|h3|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|sT|pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|s9|pg|| pc|h2|nt|phil: nice crocodile - interesting hand all around|pg|| mc|8|nt|ahollan1: nice play by Zwerling |pg|| pg|| qx|o21|st||md|3SKQ97H9742DQ62C93,ST8HA3DK4CAKJ8652,SA64HKJ85DA73CT74,SJ532HQT6DJT985CQ|sv|n|nt|meargent: NEXT|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Passell: "good shift there, Eddie"|pg|| mb|1D!|nt|marlowepi: so after the 2 hearts and a spade, suppose double dummy declarer just leads a diamond conceding to the king. can declarer not take out spades and diamonds from E than lead a club ...|pg|| nt|marlowepi: to the ace and another club?|pg|| nt|meargent: undo|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Wold: "you had him - win the A of clubs and cash 1 spade ..." |pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|mb|1N|mb|2H|mb|d|nt|meargent: disert time?|pg|| nt|meargent: yes|pg|| nt|kit: Interesting 1NT overcall by West|pg|| mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3D|nt|meargent: passell is about to get his just desert|pg|| mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|marlowepi: these four lads have been teammates many a time|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Wold: "this one isn't pretty"|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cQ|nt|meargent: sorry just desserts ty nate|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c2|pg|| nt|warrens: good lrad|pg|| nt|marlowepi: going back to the days of the ever-formidable Malcolm Brachman squads|pg|| nt|ritong: it could go very fast with a @h lead, but north avoids it|pg|| nt|warrens: lead|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|d3|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|s8|pc|s4|pg|| nt|meargent: thoughtfull lead|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|h6|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|sT|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d6|pc|dK|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c21|st||md|3SKQ97H9742DQ62C93,ST8HA3DK4CAKJ8652,SA64HKJ85DA73CT74,SJ532HQT6DJT985CQ|sv|n|nt|warrens: had to play the @c before cashing the Q of @s, pretty tough to find|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i'm even dizzier than before the hand started|pg|| mb|1D!|an|10-15 2+ diamonds|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@D = 10-15, 2+@D|pg|| mb|1H|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|phil: seems Bart was playing for 3=5=4=1 - but thats a pretty skinny overcall|pg|| mb|p|pc|h5|nt|ahollan1: declarer would have been ok on that line if @CK in east|pg|| nt|ahollan1: leaderboard getting another flip|pg|| nt|ahollan1: GIB laughing at human's inability to find lead of @Sx|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h9|pc|h3|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|c4|pg|| pc|h6|nt|vugraphzfe: Zwerlilng called for a second club from dummy --"Oh, I don't have a club; they are coming"|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h8|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|d5|pc|c9|pg|| nt|vugraphzfe: Bramley claims for the defense after the first 7 clubs|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o22|st||md|4SJ96H862DA982C964,SKQT3HAJ75DJ754CK,S742HT43DKT63CJ75,SA85HKQ9DQCAQT832|sv|e|mb|1C!|an|STR, ART, F1|mb|p|mb|2S!|an|4 x1, 12+ HCP|mb|p|mb|2N|an|asking|mb|p|mb|3C|an|!c splinter|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|meargent: @DA would be an exciting lead for declarer|pg|| mb|4N|mb|p|nt|marlowepi: with the friendly breaks several slams make, ten of clubs helps chances of 6C|pg|| nt|ritong: even more now|pg|| nt|meargent: indeed|pg|| nt|pdlit: other table also 3N on 20|pg|| nt|kit: 6@C comes home, and it looks like East will bid it.|pg|| nt|kit: 4NT not so happy on ace of diamonds lead.|pg|| nt|marlowepi: E has a nice hand, but HCP not much more than shown|pg|| nt|meargent: less|pg|| nt|ritong: having shown the @c shortage, passell could have specified it is a big one but perhaps that would show a bigger hand|pg|| nt|ritong: when 4NT has the merit to be practical|pg|| nt|meargent: new leader |pg|| nt|pdlit: it seems as the cards lie, 6@c, 6@h, 6@s will all make|pg|| nt|meargent: WEST JUMPED TO 3NT ON21 WITH @h LEAD|pg|| mb|p|nt|meargent: sorry|pg|| mb|p|nt|ritong: yes, but from wold's pov the @c K is outside|pg|| nt|ritong: maybe|pg|| nt|marlowepi: the sickest part of this, from the NS point of view, would be that even if declarer in 6C goes for a trump coup, he will make it :)|pg|| nt|ritong: and if so, the hand is way less promising|pg|| nt|kit: Now all South has to do is find ace of diamonds lead. Piece of cake.|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Dennis asks Passell what he showed - 4x1 with 12+, stiff club|pg|| pc|d2|nt|kit: so near and yet so far|pg|| nt|marlowepi: right suit, wrong card|pg|| nt|warrens: missed by just one pip :)|pg|| nt|meargent: for whom?|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Wold: "you're supposed to bid 4@c (pointing at club K)" Passell: I would if I had a little more|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|kit: 10 will be inserted, and declarer will take them all.|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|c5|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg|| pc|cA|mc|13|pg|| qx|c22|st||md|4SJ96H862DA982C964,SKQT3HAJ75DJ754CK,S742HT43DKT63CJ75,SA85HKQ9DQCAQT832|sv|e|mb|1C!|an|strong, artificial|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@C something like 17+ unbal or 18+ bal|pg|| nt|phil: 6@c looks like a marginally good spot here|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 3-suiter FG responses start at 2@H but i don't know any specifics|pg|| nt|ahollan1: and not sure if they can identify the @C Kingleton|pg|| nt|phil: 6@h is interesting too|pg|| mb|2N!|nt|vugraphzfe: Tolliver starts to write explanation and Bramley waves him off|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|nt|ahollan1: 3N implies 2N = 1-under shortness so exactly 4441@C|pg|| nt|vugraphzfe: 2NT is 4=4=4=1 8-12 or some 4-4-5=0 8-10|pg|| mb|p|mb|4C|nt|ahollan1: but Zwerling has enough extras to bid again |pg|| nt|ahollan1: remember their 1@C is just a tad stronger than the other pairs |pg|| nt|ahollan1: Passell's 2@S response was 12+hcp, any 4441|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i wonder if 3N was forcing|pg|| nt|ahollan1: in other room|pg|| mb|p|mb|4N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|phil: Clerkins had a chance to beat 4N but it requires a "1st best" lead from longest and strongest|pg|| mb|p|nt|vugraphzfe: later auction is undiscussed. Zwerlilng has more HCP than his bid showed.|pg|| pc|c5|nt|ahollan1: splat|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c4|pc|cK|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|d4|pc|c7|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c9|pc|d5|pc|cJ|pg|| mc|13|pg|| qx|o23|st||md|1SQ83HT94DQ98CA974,SK7HAKJ2DKJ75C862,SAJT9652H8D642CK3,S4HQ7653DAT3CQJT5|sv|b|nt|marlowepi: after E thought so long over 4N, maybe S could reason that top diamond is best shot|pg|| nt|marlowepi: as slower approach not likely to yield 4 tricks|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Wold still thinks Passell should have bid 4@c with the King. Passell: if I had a little more I would have done that; it's the reason I stretched|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|mb|3S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: East better take his profit here|pg|| mb|5H|nt|kit: Maybe West should have doubled|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ritong: the problem is for passell imo|pg|| nt|meargent: passel wants to go to 5 level?|pg|| mb|p|nt|ritong: should he encourage or discourage?|pg|| nt|marlowepi: better lead black|pg|| pc|sA|nt|kit: West was afraid 4@S might be making. And it is close, but not quite there.|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|s7|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg|| nt|marlowepi: once spade is cashed, pnly a qestion of one or 2 down|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|h3|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hK|pc|sJ|pc|h5|pc|h9|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|c5|pc|s8|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|d8|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hT|pc|h2|pc|s6|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d7|pc|s5|pc|cT|pc|c7|pg|| mc|10|nt|Vugraphzfb: Jerry: "can't make 4@h"|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Passell: "didn't know we could beat anything"|pg|| pg|| qx|c23|st||md|1SQ83HT94DQ98CA974,SK7HAKJ2DKJ75C862,SAJT9652H8D642CK3,S4HQ7653DAT3CQJT5|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1N|an|14-16|mb|2S|nt|ahollan1: 1N = good 14-17|pg|| mb|3D!|an|invite+ with hearts|mb|3S|mb|4H|nt|phil: 4@h can be beaten off the top, or if declarer can't find the @d lead. But I think Bart bids 4@s here|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@S usually 6+suit|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|nt|phil: @dQ rather|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 3@D per Joe [and looking at hand] 5+@H, INV+|pg|| mb|p|nt|phil: Passell/Wold bid on to 5@h so Simson has an opportunity here|pg|| mb|p|nt|phil: apparently pass wasnt forcing here|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c4|nt|ahollan1: @CJ shows @CQ or shortness|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cK|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s7|pc|s5|pc|s4|pg|| nt|ady: hoping for QJ10 alone|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c8|pc|s6|pc|c5|pg|| pc|h8|nt|vugraphzfe: screen down and Zwer and Stans writing |pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|ahollan1: other table on board 26|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Zwersby? |pg|| nt|ahollan1: can i please take that back?|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c9|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|hA|pc|s9|pc|h3|pc|h9|pg|| pc|s2|pc|h5|pc|s3|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hK|nt|ahollan1: 30 is last scheduled board|pg|| pc|sT|pc|h6|pg|| pc|d2|nt|phil: everyone's count on the hand is pretty clear now, but declarer is looking for defensive error and the defenders are just being extra careful this close to the end|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg|| pc|d5|mc|9|pg|| qx|o24|st||md|2SAKQ98653H5DACJ73,SJ7HKJT82DK764C94,S42HQ97DJ82CKQT52,STHA643DQT953CA86|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D!|an|2+|mb|d|mb|r!|an|!hs|nt|medwards: A lot of eight card suits this week and at least one nine|pg|| mb|2C|mb|2H|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|pdlit: on 22, other room in 4N also|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h7|nt|ritong: pity a @d lead would have speeded things up|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pg|| nt|pdlit: a @c led, so same result, 7, even though played from other side|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dA|mc|11|nt|ritong: claim|pg|| pg|| qx|c24|st||md|2SAKQ98653H5DACJ73,SJ7HKJT82DK764C94,S42HQ97DJ82CKQT52,STHA643DQT953CA86|sv|o|nt|ahollan1: was that a good swing, a lucky gain and/or an unlucky loss?|pg|| nt|phil: I thought it was well judged at this table at least|pg|| mb|p|nt|phil: although West might have passed when in a forcing auction|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|nt|phil: I think a canape 1@h will get EW to 5@h here|pg|| mb|4S|nt|ahollan1: 1@H = 10-16, 4+@H possible canape [2nd suit longer]|pg|| mb|5H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|phil: Lew has substantial undisclosed values|pg|| nt|ahollan1: is this the first 8-card suit of the set? [i know not 1st of the day -- or even 2nd]|pg|| mb|d|nt|phil: there were 8 diamonds earlier|pg|| mb|p|nt|phil: x = I realy want to bid 5@s? |pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|sK|nt|ahollan1: is this a good save or a great save?|pg|| nt|phil: depends on the first few tricks|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|sT|pg|| nt|ahollan1: depends upon trick 2|pg|| nt|phil: well declarer hasnt gotten diamonds right yet, but probably will|pg|| nt|phil: or trump either|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|d3|pg|| nt|vugraphzfe: auction would have been the same if we switch club A and KQ|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sJ|pc|s4|pc|h3|pg|| nt|vugraphzfe: screen down - Tolliver asking Bramley questions|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h7|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h9|pc|h6|pc|s3|pg|| nt|ahollan1: so it is great save [i.e. making]|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|hA|nt|phil: double game swing at a critical time for Simson|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o25|st||md|3ST3HKQJ4DT542CAQT,SA7HAT98732DAJ9CJ,SKQ65H6DK83C98532,SJ9842H5DQ76CK764|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|meargent: that should slow passel up|pg|| nt|marlowepi: that will keep W quiet|pg|| nt|pdlit: so a couple of opportunities for large swings have been unused|pg|| mb|1N|nt|kit: That opening bid will keep E-W out of their heart fit I think.|pg|| mb|2H|nt|ritong: you won t keep big mike shut that easily|pg|| nt|kit: I wonder if it is clear that this call is natural in their partnership.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: Gues so, so good contract is reached.|pg|| nt|marlowepi: after the spade response, less upside for artificial i think|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: It looked like it - Eddie didn't have any problem passing|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|sT|pc|sA|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sQ|pc|s4|pc|s3|pg|| nt|kit: At least declare knows what he is up against in the heart suit.|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|dA|pg|| nt|ritong: still has to decide if north has stiff @hH|pg|| nt|meargent: maybe denis has 5@Hs|pg|| nt|kit: he will decide when he sees if North follows to the first round or not.|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Wold: "you've got signals"|pg|| nt|ritong: really isn t the question @hA first or @h from dummy to the 10|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pc|d4|pg|| pc|h5|nt|pdlit: on 23 Bramley in 4@s|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|h6|pg|| nt|ritong: not anymore:)|pg|| pc|hT|pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|kit: After the opening bid, not too much of a question I don't think.|pg|| mc|9|nt|ritong: mm|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Passell: "I was happy you had a singleton"|pg|| pg|| qx|c25|st||md|3ST3HKQJ4DT542CAQT,SA7HAT98732DAJ9CJ,SKQ65H6DK83C98532,SJ9842H5DQ76CK764|sv|e|nt|ahollan1: 42-8 set for Simson those 42 coming from only 4 pickups|pg|| nt|phil: big turnaround from last segments horror show|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|chip: shows momentum and switch quickly. Last set was all Street.|pg|| mb|1H|nt|phil: good stop for EW at the other table|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|2H|nt|phil: of course not difficult when your RHO opens your 7 bagger|pg|| nt|chip: and EW took a lot of tricks. Even 2H could have gone down if S hadn't bid them.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|chip: same auction at the other table.|pg|| mb|p|pc|sK|nt|phil: and same lead|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sA|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sQ|pc|s4|pc|sT|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pg|| nt|chip: looks like NS will hold this to 2 and recover an IMP.|pg|| nt|ahollan1: open room on 30|pg|| nt|phil: he might play for a stiff @h honor offside? |pg|| pc|d5|pc|d9|pc|dK|pc|d6|pg|| nt|ahollan1: @H4 ?|pg|| nt|chip: don't think he will do that. KQJx(x) much more attractive to open than KQxx.|pg|| nt|ahollan1: sorry forgot Stansby opened 1@H|pg|| nt|chip: yes, without 1H opener for sure might misguess.|pg|| nt|ahollan1: well he can't handle 50 trump can he?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: so with single @D entry does he play for actual layout or for Bramley to hold stiff trump?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: assuming @D continue|pg|| nt|phil: he'll throw a hook out by playing spades - Lew does best by not ruffing|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|cT|pc|h2|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pg|| nt|chip: club is a good play as will tell S there are no more side suit winners (so no reason to ruff spade J).|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|ahollan1: channelling phil|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|s6|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|h6|pg|| nt|phil: nicely done|pg|| nt|ahollan1: ok i'm convinced|pg|| nt|vugraphzfe: zwerling laughs and says he doesn't think he can work around Stansby|pg|| nt|chip: think he could instead have ruffed a spade and exited with the heart 10, then would always make even if stiff honor off side.|pg|| nt|vugraphzfe: stanby's hearts|pg|| pc|h8|pc|d3|pc|c7|pc|hJ|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o26|st||md|4SAJ2HQDAQ72CQJT84,ST8HAJT7DJ943C975,SQ954H9432D86CA63,SK763HK865DKT5CK2|sv|b|mb|1D|an|2+|nt|kit: South might try a 1NT overcall here.|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: This does better.|pg|| mb|p|pc|sT|nt|pdlit: a 1NT overcall with a singleton is modern bidding|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|s2|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|d3|pg|| nt|ritong: be careful, pdlit kit is in biting mood|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|dT|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d9|nt|pdlit: :)|pg|| pc|c3|pc|dK|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dJ|pc|cA|pc|h5|pg|| pc|c6|nt|meargent: id bid 1nt before i made a 2 level overcall with denis hand|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c5|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|c7|pc|s5|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c26|st||md|4SAJ2HQDAQ72CQJT84,ST8HAJT7DJ943C975,SQ954H9432D86CA63,SK763HK865DKT5CK2|sv|b|mb|1H|mb|d|nt|phil: another pesky four card major|pg|| mb|2H|nt|ahollan1: 1@H = 10-16, 4+@H possible 4@h and longer 2nd suit|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@H seems to be 3 or 4-fit|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i think all other raises have been 3|pg|| nt|phil: yes we've seen both|pg|| mb|p|nt|phil: maybe 4 fit needs more shape|pg|| mb|p|pc|h6|nt|phil: other table played a more prosaic 2@c|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s9|pc|s7|pc|s2|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c5|pg|| pc|h5|nt|ahollan1: what a difference an opening bid makes|pg|| nt|phil: Bart pretty much marked with the missing high cards here|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|h7|pc|h3|pg|| nt|phil: East rather....|pg|| nt|ahollan1: nebulous @D = 2@C overcall 4-card major opening = clear takeout DBL so the moysian @S fit|pg|| nt|vugraphzfe: screen down; bramley asking questions|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sT|pc|s4|pc|s3|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|d2|nt|phil: tried for 3-3 spades I suppose|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| pc|sK|pc|d7|pc|c9|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|hK|pc|dQ|pc|hJ|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h8|pc|cT|pc|hT|pc|h9|pg|| nt|phil: maybe fooled by the @s8 shift and the @s7 from East...|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o27|st||md|1SH843DJ97643CAQ96,SKQJT93HK2DKT8CK5,S86542H765DQCJT87,SA7HAQJT9DA52C432|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|marlowepi: 6N by W|pg|| mb|3S|nt|kit: Laydown 6@S, might be difficult to bid.|pg|| mb|p|nt|marlowepi: will make from either side, but ...|pg|| mb|4D|mb|p|nt|kit: Showing semi-solid suit probably, which makes the slam easier to bid.|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5D|an|1 keycard|mb|p|nt|kit: East trusts not off AK of clubs. I wouldn't have been so confident of that.|pg|| nt|marlowepi: yes, i was thinking "kids, don't try this at home"|pg|| mb|5H|mb|p|nt|meargent: wold is assuming @C control for passels 4@H bid|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|meargent: silly|pg|| nt|meargent: 4nt|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Wold: what?|pg|| nt|kit: did West really pass here?|pg|| nt|ritong: would "my suit plays for at most one loser even if you have singleton" a good definition for 3@s?|pg|| nt|marlowepi: when passell himself bid 3S setting the suit, passing 5H is not an option, one would think|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Passell: "I thought you had diamonds and hearts"|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c7|pc|c2|pg|| nt|kit: West may have thought that East couldn't be looking for queen of spades since West had shown semi-solid suit.|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c27|st||md|1SH843DJ97643CAQ96,SKQJT93HK2DKT8CK5,S86542H765DQCJT87,SA7HAQJT9DA52C432|sv|o|nt|vugraphzfe: question at the table that noone knows the answer to : if your partner on defense (or offense, I guess) has a trick turned wrong, can you call attention to it?|pg|| mb|3D|nt|ahollan1: is this a Roman-esque hand that starts canape sequence with 1@D?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: now i'll never learn the EW system|pg|| nt|phil: I think you can right after the trick - later on I dont think its authorized info|pg|| mb|3S|nt|vugraphzfe: thanks all -- you can if it is before the next trick|pg|| mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|nt|meargent: stansby is desperate|pg|| nt|phil: this might jet EW into the winning spot|pg|| nt|vugraphzfe: some impressive kibitzers we have :)|pg|| nt|marlowepi: auction is cramped|pg|| nt|marlowepi: W has good hand but no aces|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|nt|phil: last train 4@h looks perfect|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 4@H cue? or was 4@D a transfer??|pg|| mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5C|nt|ahollan1: oh last train -- missed that Phil|pg|| mb|p|nt|phil: youre losing a step Al...:P|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 4N = 1430|pg|| mb|5H|nt|ritong: 4@h is his only way to show good hand without committing|pg|| mb|p|nt|phil: 4@d could be a space-age choice of games cue or coming in spades maybe|pg|| nt|marlowepi: both E players bid 4N with uncontrolled clubs :)|pg|| mb|5N|mb|p|nt|kit: so if 5@H is queen ask, how does West show the queen and all 3 kings?|pg|| mb|6H|mb|d|nt|warrens: 6|pg|| nt|ahollan1: last train is a meckstroth invention where 1-under the trump suit says i'm still interested in slam, but can't bid beyond our game - says nothing about holding in this suit|pg|| mb|6S|nt|warrens: 6|pg|| nt|phil: 6@h sounds like an offer|pg|| nt|warrens: 6@H doesn't make from West's side|pg|| mb|p|nt|warrens: but of course, this does|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|marlowepi: EW did well here to bid this slam after S gobbled up a lot of bidding space|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i think meckstroth gets the credit, but never surprised if rodwell|pg|| nt|marlowepi: 6N from W is best|pg|| nt|ritong: it would have been better in NTs, though|pg|| nt|chip: not if played by E.|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Zia would say EW in Heat 1 -- they can do no wrong|pg|| nt|vugraphzfe: bramley and Tolliver were discussing something and now Bramley is deep in thought|pg|| nt|chip: They had a free run at the other table, but missed it after starting 1S-2H-3S. Kit, you would open strong C with W?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: there might even be a Heat 0 where even your revokes gain |pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dK|pg|| mc|13|nt|vugraphzfe: Bramley: my trump stack was not sufficient|pg|| pg|| qx|o28|st||md|2SA985HQ864D743CK2,ST74HAKJ97DQJCA87,S32HT3DT852CT6543,SKQJ6H52DAK96CQJ9|sv|n|nt|Vugraphzfb: Wold: " Spades were our suit, 5@h asked for the Q"|pg|| mb|1N|nt|kit: unexpected mixup -- and very costly.|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Passell: "can't have it both ways" (not sure what he means)|pg|| mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|marlowepi: strange that E was playing W for a club control he perhaps never showed, and yet had to ask for the trump queen which W was virtually certain to have|pg|| nt|kit: Another hand in the slam zone, just to keep us interested|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: You're probably right, KIt|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|marlowepi: 1N is 14-16?|pg|| nt|kit: And slam makes on the lie of the cards. Not looking good for Street.|pg|| nt|ritong: certainly so|pg|| nt|marlowepi: pretty chunky hand for 3N|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Wold: "are we doing 4@s is a light one?" (slam try I guess)|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sT|pc|s2|pc|s6|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d5|pc|d6|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|d4|pg|| pc|s7|pc|c3|pc|sJ|pc|s8|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|h7|pc|d8|pg|| pc|dA|pc|s9|nt|Vugraphzfb: Dennis: "are you down?" Passell: "no,no ... not yet anyway"|pg|| pc|c7|pc|dT|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|h4|pc|c8|pc|c4|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|hJ|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hT|pc|h2|pc|h8|pg|| mc|12|nt|Vugraphzfb: Passell: "it was a horrific slam" |pg|| pg|| qx|c28|st||md|2SA985HQ864D743CK2,ST74HAKJ97DQJCA87,S32HT3DT852CT6543,SKQJ6H52DAK96CQJ9|sv|n|nt|marlowepi: yes it was odd at the other table. E bid RKCB even though clubs were not known to be controlled, and then asked for the queen of trumps even though his partner had jump-rebid ...|pg|| nt|marlowepi: spades showing a 1-loser suit at most. this latter call led W to think that E must want to play hearts. some doubtful actions all along|pg|| mb|1N|nt|phil: slams repeat? |pg|| mb|p|mb|2C|nt|marlowepi: range is a big factor here. in other room facing 14-16, E did not even invite|pg|| mb|p|nt|marlowepi: ?|pg|| mb|2H|an|5 hearts|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|chip: I think it is about time to congratulate Simpson for being USA II.|pg|| pc|c4|nt|phil: clap, clap - fine performance|pg|| nt|meargent: very well done indeed|pg|| nt|ahollan1: my bad 2@C was Puppet Stayman|pg|| nt|vugraphzfe: good recovery after a very discourage 5th segment for the Simson team|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c2|nt|meargent: bon soir tous|pg|| pc|cA|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d5|pc|d9|pc|d4|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|s8|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|c3|pg|| nt|ahollan1: let's remember they were also in the USA1 Final|pg|| pc|h4|nt|chip: after this board they are essentially certain. In theory can win 40+ in two boards, but not in practice (and for sure not on the actual 29/30 coming up).|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i can think of recent history where same team lost in both USA1 & USA2 finals|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o29|st||md|3SA643HKQ6DKJCQ754,SQ97HJ9832D932CJ2,SKJT85HTDQT76CAK3,S2HA754DA854CT986|sv|b|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|pdlit: on 24 in CR|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Passell: "duck 2 spades, I can't get to the diamonds"|pg|| mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|pdlit: double game swing for Simson on 24|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Wold: "well, you guys played well"|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|cA|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s5|pc|h4|pc|sA|nt|ritong: undersaying: we could do better|pg|| nt|kit: 26 IMP lead, and 2 potential slam swings in Simpson's favor coming up -- so unless something very unexpected happens it looks like its all over|pg|| pc|s9|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c9|pc|cQ|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|kit: Really impressive recovery after getting killed in the penultimate set.|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c29|st||md|3SA643HKQ6DKJCQ754,SQ97HJ9832D932CJ2,SKJT85HTDQT76CAK3,S2HA754DA854CT986|sv|b|mb|1S|nt|ahollan1: check out usbf.org to see rosters of all 6 teams that will be representing USA in the 2015 World Championships|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N!|nt|ahollan1: 1@S = 10-15|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2N = 4+fit, INV+, possible singleton|pg|| nt|chip: simpson conceded in the USAI finals down by 60 (to Milner) to save their energy for USAII. Seems to have been a good strategy.|pg|| mb|3C!|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 3@C = best hand, no void, some slam interest opposite FG|pg|| mb|3D!|an|relay|nt|ahollan1: 3@D = RELAY shortness BLMH steps aka NLMH balanced/none, low, middle, high|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: so 4@C = 1@H|pg|| mb|4C!|an|short hearts|nt|ahollan1: must be 1@H because 3@C denies void|pg|| mb|p|mb|4N|nt|chip: sorry, its team Simson, not Simpson. My apologies to Doug.|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i just have muscle? memory that always types "shortness"|pg|| nt|vugraphzfe: I think he will forgive you , Chip|pg|| mb|p|nt|warrens: this is dangerous, might go down in 5|pg|| mb|5H|mb|p|mb|5S|nt|chip: NS may be in shooting mode now.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: for the D'Orsi Senior Bowl USA1 Reese Milner-Hemant Lall, Bob Hamman-Mark Lair, Michael Rosenberg-Zia Mahmood|pg|| pc|hA|nt|ahollan1: and USA2 Doug Simson-Jeff Aker, Jerry & Dennis Clerkin [did they play EVERY set?] and Marc Zwerling-Mark Tolliver|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h8|pc|hT|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dJ|pc|d2|pc|d6|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c4|nt|ahollan1: they get to enjoy balmy Chennai India in late September - early October|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cA|pg|| nt|vugraphzfe: the Clerkins played every set this match. typically they sat out one set per day earlier|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|h4|mc|10|pg|| qx|o30|st||md|4S3HK9865D8643C962,SJ982HAQJTDKTCK54,SKQT765H42DA7CJ73,SA4H73DQJ952CAQT8|sv|o|nt|pdlit: that is true|pg|| mb|1N|an|14-16|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|nt|marlowepi: especially because the debacle was not simply bad luck or the foe playing superbly. nearly all the IMPs were self-inflicted. that sort of collapse is really hard to regroup from, ...|pg|| nt|marlowepi: and the fact that they did so after only a short break is a sign of grit and class|pg|| nt|kit: This could go for a number|pg|| mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: But East with weak spades chooses to declarer -- missing last chance for a pickup.|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|sT|pc|sA|pg|| nt|meargent: well done simsonn team|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|h6|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|h3|pc|c2|pc|s8|pg|| mc|10|nt|ritong: merci a tous|pg|| nt|marlowepi: indeed to be congratulated on the fortitude they showed after blowing a big lead and fighting hard when the other team had the momentum|pg|| nt|marlowepi: thanks to superb colleagues and all others involved|pg|| nt|meargent: and welldone my friends jerry and denis@H|pg|| nt|marlowepi: yes, i was striving to be impartial. now i crack open the champagne|pg|| nt|meargent: unfortunately for them horseracing is not big in india|pg|| pg|| qx|c30|st||md|4S3HK9865D8643C962,SJ982HAQJTDKTCK54,SKQT765H42DA7CJ73,SA4H73DQJ952CAQT8|sv|o|nt|vugraphzfe: last board. thanks to all the commenators and to the kibitzers. good night (soon)|pg|| mb|1D!|an|10-15 2+ diamonds|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@D=10-16, 0+@D with many qualifiers to that|pg|| mb|1H|mb|2S|nt|ahollan1: 1@H also possible canape|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s2|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 71-10 set for the winners [not counting this board]|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|h5|pc|s9|pg|| pc|h4|mc|11|nt|ahollan1: so 1 more for the very impressive winners|pg|| nt|ahollan1: good luck in Chennai!|pg|| nt|ahollan1: next stop for our vugraph is Chicago Summer Nationals [ok NABC]|pg|| nt|ahollan1: but there is good stuff happening in Europe too|pg|| nt|vugraphzfe: unusually no one wanted to see scores -- Bramely congratulated Simson but the Simson teams was not confident as they left to compare. Thanks again everyone. Good night.|pg|| pg||