vg|B 2015 USBC R8,Segment 3 of 8,I,1,15,Ganzer,49,Fireman,96| rs|1NE+1,3CE+3,4HWx-1,3HW=,3NE=,3NE=,1NE-1,2HS=,4SS=,5CWx-2,3HS-2,3NS-1,2HN+1,3HN=,2HW=,2NS=,4HN-1,4HNx=,3SW-1,,1NW+3,2DSx-2,3DE-3,3DE-2,2HS=,4HS+2,2SW+3,4SW-1,3NS=,3NS=| pn|Liu,Wolpert,Watson,Fireman,Hurd,Ganzer,Wooldridge,Brady|pg|| qx|o1|st||md|3SAT963H832DQ86CK9,SJ87HK764D94CA853,SKQ5HJT95DJ72C764,S42HAQDAKT53CQJT2|sv|o|nt|Vugraphzfv: Welcome to the third segment of the quarter finals|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfv: the results are posted @@ http://usbf.org/docs/vugraphs/USBC2015/Bracket.php?stage=Roundof8|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s6|pc|s7|pc|sQ|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|s8|pg|| pc|s5|pc|d3|pc|sA|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|s9|pc|h4|pc|d7|pc|d5|pg|| pc|sT|pc|c3|pc|d2|pc|dT|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|h5|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c1|st||md|3SAT963H832DQ86CK9,SJ87HK764D94CA853,SKQ5HJT95DJ72C764,S42HAQDAKT53CQJT2|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|2H|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|c9|pg|| pc|cT|pc|s6|pc|c5|pc|c7|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|h6|pc|hT|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o2|st||md|4S3HA43DA9742CKT84,SK87HKJT85DJT5CA7,SAJ42H6DK863CJ532,SQT965HQ972DQCQ96|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|2H|mb|2N|an|!|mb|3H|mb|4D|mb|4H|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d6|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|h4|pc|s8|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c7|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|h2|mc|9|pg|| qx|c2|st||md|4S3HA43DA9742CKT84,SK87HKJT85DJT5CA7,SAJ42H6DK863CJ532,SQT965HQ972DQCQ96|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d6|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|h4|pc|sK|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c7|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|h6|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c3|st||md|1S965HKT984DJ2C962,SKT2HAQ63DT54C843,SA874H2DA863CKT75,SQJ3HJ75DKQ97CAQJ|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h9|pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|d6|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|s4|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s2|pc|s7|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|dK|pc|s5|pc|d5|pc|dA|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sJ|pc|h4|pc|sK|pg|| pc|s8|pc|h5|pc|c6|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|c4|pg|| pc|d9|pc|h8|pc|h6|pc|d8|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o4|st||md|2SK876HQJ762D762C7,SJ95H984DAQ9CT865,SQT3HTDKT43CKQJ32,SA42HAK53DJ85CA94|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h6|pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|hA|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c7|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|d6|pc|c6|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|h4|pc|dT|pc|h3|pc|h7|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h8|pc|d4|pc|hK|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|s6|pc|d9|pc|c3|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s5|pc|s3|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|c8|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|h2|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pc|c9|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s9|pc|sT|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|sJ|pg|| pg|| qx|c4|st||md|2SK876HQJ762D762C7,SJ95H984DAQ9CT865,SQT3HTDKT43CKQJ32,SA42HAK53DJ85CA94|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|d|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c5|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|d7|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c4|pc|d6|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c9|pc|sK|pc|c8|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: Are there any commentators for this room?|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|h2|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|fabsayc: best line may be to elope souths small hearts|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s9|pc|sT|pc|s4|pg|| nt|fabsayc: he is playing that way|pg|| pc|c3|pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|cT|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o5|st||md|3SAKT765H96DA643C9,S32HKQJ3D72CKQJ72,SJ984H75DK985CA54,SQHAT842DQJTCT863|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2C|mb|3S|an|mixed|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|hT|pc|h6|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c9|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|s5|pc|c7|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|h2|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c8|pc|s7|pc|c2|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hJ|pc|h7|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|s9|pc|h8|pc|d3|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|cT|pc|sK|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|sT|pc|h3|mc|10|pg|| qx|c5|st||md|3SAKT765H96DA643C9,S32HKQJ3D72CKQJ72,SJ984H75DK985CA54,SQHAT842DQJTCT863|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2C|mb|3C|mb|3H|nt|krhorneman: E/W have a profitable sacrifice, but only in @cs|pg|| mb|4S|mb|5C|nt|krhorneman: 2@c ruffs will see 5@h go off 4|pg|| nt|fabsayc: Hurd deciding on a tactical approach, goes for the direct 4@S|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|krhorneman: not clear that this is a forcing pass|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: the usual question, is this a forcing auction, it seems NS treat it that way|pg|| nt|krhorneman: well, they did find the correct game|pg|| nt|fabsayc: if openers side bids a vul game voluntary, a force is on (one possible rule)|pg|| nt|krhorneman: yes, for sure, the vulnerability important here|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: no notes on auction|pg|| nt|krhorneman: However, would it still be forcing if the bidding had been the same but North had bid 2@s instead of 3@c? When the opponents have shown as good or better hands than your side, it isn't so clear|pg|| nt|fabsayc: against 5@H the defense could get 800, against 5@C only 300|pg|| nt|krhorneman: whatever lead Joel settles on, the dummy's distribution will make a cash out easy|pg|| pc|c4|nt|shuster: I see no reason why a passed hand opposite a 3rd seat opener would have a forcing pass unless the 3rd seat opener shows extra values en route to game|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c9|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|shuster: had South called 4@D instead of 4@S, that would establish a FP|pg|| pc|cK|nt|krhorneman: yes, I agree with that in principle, MIchael, though this is the one vulnerability where I might see an exception|pg|| nt|krhorneman: your approach requires that South make a cue bid even with no slam interest just to set up a forcing pass, and that has hazards of its own|pg|| nt|shuster: the vulnerability doesn't change the cards in ones hand|pg|| nt|fabsayc: i agree is not clear in this case, was just stating the simplest version of the rule|pg|| nt|krhorneman: but the vulnerability implies that South has extra values even if not cue bidding on the way, I would suggest|pg|| nt|shuster: well, EW found a very good save, and the double will only hold the loss a little bit|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|s5|pg|| nt|krhorneman: Yes, certainly West did well to find the right save|pg|| pc|s3|nt|shuster: I think if North thought that pass was forcing, he probably would not have passed...|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg|| nt|krhorneman: you think he would have doubled?|pg|| nt|shuster: So a very good start to the set for Ganzer|pg|| nt|shuster: I'm getting some good messages about how playing in the weaker strain (clubs) has prevented club ruffs that would have been possible against hearts|pg|| nt|krhorneman: at the other table, North bid 3@s over 2@c probably showing a mixed raise, and East didn't bid|pg|| nt|shuster: When choosing between two strains, it is usually easier for the opponents to navigate a ruff in the suit in which they have the ace|pg|| nt|shuster: so better to play in the suit MISSING the ace|pg|| nt|krhorneman: I am a big fan of mixed raises, especially if they get us up quickly in the bidding, and this hand is one of the examples of why|pg|| nt|shuster: I'm not sure why Wooldridge ducked the @CA, but I'm sure he had a good reason|pg|| nt|krhorneman: I am also guessing that here, E/W had the agreement that as a passed hand 3@h was fit showing, even though not a jump, since at the 3 level.|pg|| nt|shuster: but the play has tortured his partner a fair bit|pg|| nt|fabsayc: that is not always easy to determine, but here brady has effectively shown heart ace, and only 5 probably since he was in second chair|pg|| nt|shuster: there are fit showing jumps, which many players play and fit showing non jumps, which always risk disaster|pg|| nt|krhorneman: Ganzer's bidding only makes sense to me if he knew he had a big @c fit, however|pg|| nt|krhorneman: I suspect they have a specific agreement here|pg|| nt|shuster: yes, Ganzer knew about the club fit, otherwise he would at least have bid 4NT to allow for hearts|pg|| nt|shuster: I think Hurd might have disconnected. Check his ping|pg|| nt|fabsayc: my ping is in sleep mode|pg|| nt|krhorneman: Even with no agreement, 3@h would surely show at least tolerance, as East is a passed hand, but I feel sure that here it was fit showing in the bigger sense of being at least 54 in the suits|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: shuffling and reshuffling his cards|pg|| nt|shuster: I wonder if he is thinking about trying to give partner a diamond ruff (playing partner for Kx in diamonds)|pg|| nt|shuster: but then, what is the club situation?|pg|| nt|shuster: why wouldn't declarer have already drawn the trump|pg|| pc|h9|nt|krhorneman: he may think he needs to lead a @h|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hT|pg|| nt|shuster: as it turns out, nothing matters here|pg|| nt|krhorneman: playing his pard for KJ and not wanting to set up a @d pitch|pg|| pc|cT|pc|s6|pc|c2|pc|cA|pg|| nt|krhorneman: after all, he doesn't know about the double fit|pg|| nt|fabsayc: not entirely true|pg|| nt|fabsayc: they do have to belatedly take their diamonds|pg|| nt|shuster: yes, the need to eventually take their tricks|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|dK|nt|shuster: or it goes on the heart|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o6|st||md|4S872HAKQJ8DK7CK52,SQJ965HT952DAT5C7,SAK43H73DQ8642CJ3,STH64DJ93CAQT9864|sv|e|mb|3C|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|h5|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|sT|pc|s2|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|h4|pc|s7|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c5|pc|h9|pc|d4|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|c4|pc|s8|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s4|mc|7|pg|| qx|c6|st||md|4S872HAKQJ8DK7CK52,SQJ965HT952DAT5C7,SAK43H73DQ8642CJ3,STH64DJ93CAQT9864|sv|e|mb|3C|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|krhorneman: this would have not been a good defense if the @cAce and @hK had been switched, but here, everything was safe|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|fabsayc: 3@C invites opponents to bid 3NT, and they oblige.|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sT|pc|s2|pg|| nt|shuster: South's hand is a non-trivial problem over 3@C. |pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|d5|pg|| nt|shuster: hate to leave AKQJx of hearts unbid|pg|| nt|krhorneman: worked out well though, as game cannot be beaten here|pg|| nt|krhorneman: and 3@h did not play well at the other table|pg|| nt|krhorneman: West has given the defense the best chance by ducking|pg|| nt|fabsayc: this duck by ganzer has hurd confused|pg|| nt|krhorneman: South can counter by leading a @d back to the Queen, but how easy is that to find?|pg|| nt|krhorneman: a @s to the board to lead a @c will be disastrous, assuming Rob works out which red ace Ganzer has, which hw can probably show by playing the 9 of @ss and not the jack|pg|| nt|fabsayc: there are layouts where he could go down, for example west holding Ax in clubs and east four diamonds|pg|| nt|krhorneman: hurds issue is that if a @d to the queen loses, he may have just created the entry to the @ss that he's trying to avoid, in the form of the @dJack|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|krhorneman: he has found the solution to cover for either defender having the @dAce|pg|| nt|fabsayc: what if brady returns club 10 now, it will surely scare hurd|pg|| nt|krhorneman: I think rob's tempo will give it away|pg|| nt|shuster: clubs have to be 7-1 or West would have led one and East would have a 6-card suit for an unfavorable 3 bid|pg|| nt|fabsayc: 10 xx AJ9x Q109864 is not the worst vul preempt in history|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: director here now---Hurd still shuffling his cards|pg|| nt|ritong: welcome to aaron jones|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h9|pc|d4|pc|c4|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hT|pc|d6|pc|c6|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|c8|pg|| mc|8|nt|krhorneman: very strange|pg|| nt|krhorneman: why did he cut himself off from his hand by cashing @hs?|pg|| pg|| qx|o7|st||md|1SKT5HKJ64DKQT64C7,S86H93DA832CQ9654,SAJ3HT875DJ75CJ82,SQ9742HAQ2D9CAKT3|sv|b|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c4|pc|c8|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|h2|pc|d4|pg|| pc|cT|pc|h4|pc|c5|pc|c2|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h3|pg|| pc|cK|pc|hJ|pc|c6|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|h7|pc|hQ|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c7|st||md|1SKT5HKJ64DKQT64C7,S86H93DA832CQ9654,SAJ3HT875DJ75CJ82,SQ9742HAQ2D9CAKT3|sv|b|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|1S|nt|shuster: E/W are a finesse away from making 5@C here|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|nt|shuster: of course the suit will go unbid|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|shuster: I would prefer double to 1@S with the East hand...|pg|| pc|cA|nt|krhorneman: perhaps he was convinced that East held the @d Ace and was going to end play him? I am not sure what Hurd's plan was|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c4|pc|c8|pg|| pc|d9|nt|shuster: N/S only fail to make 10 tricks in hearts because of the diamond split|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|h2|pc|d6|pg|| nt|fabsayc: auction did not work out for east, he probably expected to get a safe second chance|pg|| nt|krhorneman: well, to be fair, even with better @d split they need only one trump loser as well|pg|| nt|shuster: the @H9 would make hearts a safer contract|pg|| pc|c3|pc|h4|pc|c6|pc|c2|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h3|pg|| pc|s4|nt|shuster: declarer is pretty sure the spade is onside... but pretty sure he doesn't need it|pg|| nt|krhorneman: even with that card, having to knock out th @d Ace, lead trump from North, possibly twice, and with South hand getting tapped in @cs, 4@h would not be a very good game, even assuming a @d split|pg|| nt|rduran1216: Thanks Henri, multitasking at work :)|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s8|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|ritong: np welcome|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hQ|mc|9|pg|| qx|o8|st||md|2SK32HAT4DQJ8CT942,ST974HK2DK975CAK6,SAQ8H87DAT32CQ753,SJ65HQJ9653D64CJ8|sv|o|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c5|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|c7|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|s5|pc|c9|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|s7|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|h8|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|h9|pc|s3|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hT|mc|8|pg|| qx|c8|st||md|2SK32HAT4DQJ8CT942,ST974HK2DK975CAK6,SAQ8H87DAT32CQ753,SJ65HQJ9653D64CJ8|sv|o|mb|1D|nt|krhorneman: lead your singleton was right on this hand even with an AK|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|rduran1216: harder to come in in the other room after Gavin opened 1NT w the West hand|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: board 6--Brady won CQ in tempo and returned H. Now is the long wait after Hurd wins HA.|pg|| nt|shuster: general principle is probably that 2NT isn't natural in competitive auctions|pg|| nt|krhorneman: Hurd is probably happy for it to be taken either way|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: 2H alerted weak--2NT alerted but I couldn't read|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|rduran1216: good contract |pg|| pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|h3|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|hJ|nt|krhorneman: once the @h suit cleared, declarer will have no choice but to play West for both high@cs|pg|| pc|hA|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d6|nt|krhorneman: 3@c seems a lot safer to me|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|shuster: checking for a doubleton diamond 9 first|pg|| pc|d5|pg|| pc|s3|nt|shuster: now a club up|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|s9|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|dT|pc|h5|pg|| pc|d3|pc|h6|pc|c2|pc|d7|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|c8|mc|8|pg|| qx|o9|st||md|3S653HAQ76DT4CKT97,SAQ74HT5DA975CAJ5,SKJT9HKJ943DQCQ32,S82H82DKJ8632C864|sv|e|mb|2D|an|Flannery|mb|p|mb|2N|an|asks|mb|p|mb|3D|an|!|mb|p|mb|4D|an|!|mb|p|mb|4H|an|!|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s8|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s9|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dQ|pc|d6|pc|d4|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sJ|pc|s2|pc|s5|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hT|pc|h9|pc|h8|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|c4|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|c9|pc|cJ|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c9|st||md|3S653HAQ76DT4CKT97,SAQ74HT5DA975CAJ5,SKJT9HKJ943DQCQ32,S82H82DKJ8632C864|sv|e|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|d|nt|rduran1216: W almost has to have both clubs there, so less of a sweat than it seemed|pg|| mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|4H|nt|krhorneman: Another mixed raise|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|nt|krhorneman: I know a lot of experts playing 1M 3M this way|pg|| nt|krhorneman: Certainly a mixed raise showing about 7-9 HCP and four card support comes up a lot more often than a weak raise|pg|| nt|rduran1216: this will likely make|pg|| nt|shuster: In the other room, declarer misguessed the clubs to go down in 4@H, bu tthere was NO E/W bidding to guide him|pg|| nt|shuster: I expect declarer will take 10 tricks in this room|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|rduran1216: was 3H a LR here?|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: unknown|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cT|nt|krhorneman: No|pg|| nt|krhorneman: Mixed Raise|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|krhorneman: 7-9 HCP, four card support|pg|| pc|cQ|pg|| nt|fabsayc: this will speed things up|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|hQ|pc|hT|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c6|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|d4|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|s8|mc|10|pg|| qx|o10|st||md|4S842HQ853DJ953CKJ,SAQT65H64DT84CQ92,S73HAK72DAQ6CT543,SKJ9HJT9DK72CA876|sv|b|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|r|an|3!s|mb|2H|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|h3|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hT|pc|h8|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|s2|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c7|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s7|pc|sJ|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|d3|pg|| pc|cA|pc|h5|pc|c2|pc|c5|pg|| mc|8|nt|Vugraphzfv: short break|pg|| pg|| qx|o11|st||md|1SJ8653HK9DAKQTC53,SKT97HAT75D7CAKQ8,SA4HQ632D653CJ742,SQ2HJ84DJ9842CT96|sv|o|mb|1S|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|sT|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|c5|pc|c8|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|s3|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h6|pc|c9|pc|dT|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|d2|pc|dA|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|dK|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s9|pc|d5|pc|d9|pg|| pc|sK|pc|d6|pc|dJ|pc|sJ|pg|| pg|| qx|c11|st||md|1SJ8653HK9DAKQTC53,SKT97HAT75D7CAKQ8,SA4HQ632D653CJ742,SQ2HJ84DJ9842CT96|sv|o|nt|phil: nicely done - not an easy play since that gives Joel 13 and he passed throughout|pg|| nt|rduran1216: preserves the 5 imp gain|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: Joel says sorry--C return ,,,,,|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|nt|phil: Gavin made an offshape 1N overcall in the other room with West's|pg|| mb|d|nt|fabsayc: my choice also|pg|| nt|shuster: that strikes me as a sensible call|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|phil: safer with a singleton in a minor than the unbid major|pg|| nt|shuster: the @S109 are very important cards |pg|| pc|d7|nt|shuster: well, declarer as his work cut out for him here|pg|| nt|phil: but this should reap 300 I'm guessing|pg|| nt|phil: maybe -1...|pg|| nt|shuster: he starts with four diamonds a heart and a spade... and he think he finishes with that as well|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dT|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|h4|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s7|pg|| nt|fabsayc: he can almost surely get a seventh playing to ruff spades|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|s9|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|shuster: but they just get overruffed|pg|| nt|shuster: and trumps come back|pg|| pc|dK|nt|phil: he'll get overruffed and tapped later|pg|| pc|c8|pc|d5|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|d6|pc|d8|pg|| nt|shuster: or hearts come back...|pg|| nt|fabsayc: well i did not like the heart play, that seemed a mistake|pg|| mc|6|pg|| qx|o12|st||md|2SJT96HAQTDA62C986,SA42H95432DK54CT5,SKQ87H876DQ7CKJ72,S53HKJDJT983CAQ43|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|2C|mb|2S|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d6|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|h8|pc|d8|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|c9|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|s7|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|cT|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|h3|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|hT|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sK|pc|d9|pc|s9|pc|h4|pg|| pc|dT|pc|sT|pc|h5|pc|s8|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|h9|pc|h7|pg|| pg|| qx|c12|st||md|2SJT96HAQTDA62C986,SA42H95432DK54CT5,SKQ87H876DQ7CKJ72,S53HKJDJT983CAQ43|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1D|mb|1S|mb|d|nt|phil: wool-hurd play 2/1, but open aggressively as any precision pair|pg|| nt|shuster: South holds an anti-positional diamond stopper, so avoids bidding NT|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|nt|phil: well...he has two spades too Michael|pg|| nt|phil: er 4|pg|| nt|shuster: while on this deal the @DK is onside, had the diamond overcaller held the @DK, NT would have to be declared by North|pg|| mb|p|mb|3D|nt|shuster: he holds spades, but he is thinking NT|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|phil: yes the hand looks a little no-trumpy with 4333 and some nice intermediates|pg|| pc|d2|nt|phil: declarer should get a trump lead in this spot correct - doubtful the lead comes from Qxx|pg|| nt|krhorneman: no to mention he needs the dummy entry|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|d8|pg|| nt|krhorneman: he wants to lead both @cs and @hs from dummy|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|cT|pc|c7|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c9|pc|d4|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|d3|nt|phil: sort of agree, but club ruffs establish linkage back to dummy...still -2 looks likely here|pg|| pc|d6|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o13|st||md|3SAKT532HQJT94D3C4,SJ874HAK65D764CJ7,S9H732DAT8CAK9865,SQ6H8DKQJ952CQT32|sv|b|mb|1C|mb|1D|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|an|NF|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfv: Gavin: "Nothing like taking 15 minutes to bid to 2@H..."|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|d3|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|d8|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|h2|pc|h8|pg|| pc|dK|pc|h4|pc|d7|pc|dT|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|s3|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cT|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|d2|pc|h9|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|d5|pc|hT|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c13|st||md|3SAKT532HQJT94D3C4,SJ874HAK65D764CJ7,S9H732DAT8CAK9865,SQ6H8DKQJ952CQT32|sv|b|mb|1C|mb|2D|nt|krhorneman: only if the @c is onside|pg|| nt|krhorneman: in either case, the trump play of the King seems right|pg|| nt|rduran1216: surprising looking at all hands that the auction stayed so low at the other table here|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|nt|phil: confusion over 2@h being NF? |pg|| nt|fabsayc: and made so few tricks as well|pg|| nt|phil: how can you not force with the South hand? |pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|krhorneman: will West double 4@h? Turns out this is the right hand to double on|pg|| nt|phil: it is - partner's black queens pull some weight on defense|pg|| nt|rduran1216: with a 2D bid and 3 diamonds, that looks really risky|pg|| nt|phil: is 3@d's a negative? It gives us a tap suit|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|d3|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|h2|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|krhorneman: ganzer already regretting not leading trump|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pc|h4|pg|| nt|phil: times this right and he's home|pg|| nt|fabsayc: has to take the side winners and spade ruff now|pg|| nt|krhorneman: ruffing @s all thats needed|pg|| nt|phil: no I think he has to cash the spade first|pg|| pc|sK|nt|krhorneman: both work|pg|| pc|s8|pc|dT|pc|d2|pg|| nt|phil: no - youre right|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|h7|pc|d5|pg|| pc|cA|nt|phil: can't profitably shed the spade|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c4|mc|12|nt|fabsayc: just making, operator|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: yes|pg|| nt|shuster: thats the revoke score|pg|| nt|phil: same IMPs|pg|| nt|3for3: doesnt matter |pg|| pg|| qx|o14|st||md|4ST83HKT73DA43CAQ3,SAKQJ7H92DKQ2CJ94,S94H854DJ7CT87652,S652HAQJ6DT9865CK|sv|o|nt|Vugraphzfv: Three players at the table think Gavin's double should show five hearts. Gavin isn't convinced.|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c7|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|h3|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|d7|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|s5|pc|c3|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h9|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hT|pc|s7|pc|h8|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c5|pc|s6|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|hK|mc|11|pg|| qx|c14|st||md|4ST83HKT73DA43CAQ3,SAKQJ7H92DKQ2CJ94,S94H854DJ7CT87652,S652HAQJ6DT9865CK|sv|o|nt|3for3: http://usbf.org/docs/vugraphs/USBC2015/Bracket.php?stage=Roundof8|pg|| nt|krhorneman: I thought a trump lead would be marked here, but nevertheless another nice board for Fireman|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1S|mb|3C|mb|3S|nt|fabsayc: i dont understand wolperts pass of 2@S in open room|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg|| nt|gosia: let's see - he's got 3 club losers to start then needs specific cover cards |pg|| nt|fabsayc: my overcalls start at 8 points, and 2 raises are solid, is a different style indeed|pg|| nt|krhorneman: double dummy this will make, but I'm not so sure it's easy at the table|pg|| nt|gosia: here the preempt forced them to game |pg|| pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg|| nt|odysseus69: diamond switch was needed|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|cK|nt|krhorneman: No, no switch beats it double dummy|pg|| pc|cA|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sK|pc|s9|pc|s5|pg|| nt|rduran1216: I think passing 2S is ok, partner had alot of covers for his 2S bid|pg|| nt|krhorneman: but declarer will need to get @ds right and not play the ten when in dummy|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|s6|pc|c3|pg|| pc|d5|nt|krhorneman: I think he is going wrong on this hand, hard to play for Jx offside|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|nt|gosia: still needs to get @d's right|pg|| pc|d7|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pc|c6|pc|h6|pg|| nt|krhorneman: I'm not sure why he didn't take his pitch first|pg|| nt|fabsayc: is this the real play|pg|| pc|d3|nt|krhorneman: South must have at least three clubs, can't be out|pg|| mc|9|nt|odysseus69: on a low diamond switch he has to draw 2 trumps and play the king of diamonds|pg|| pg|| qx|o15|st||md|1SAK94H62DQ95CT863,S62HKQT5DT864CQ72,S7HA974DAKJ732CJ9,SQJT853HJ83DCAK54|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1S|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hQ|mc|9|pg|| qx|c15|st||md|1SAK94H62DQ95CT863,S62HKQT5DT864CQ72,S7HA974DAKJ732CJ9,SQJT853HJ83DCAK54|sv|n|nt|gosia: we all get tired - that's a lot of boards |pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|shuster: 6 imps to fireman when the swing could have gone the other way|pg|| nt|phil: is the NT range for Wool-Hurd 14-16 or 15-17...if the former, diamonds should be figured out|pg|| mb|1D|mb|1S|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|krhorneman: Given that the @c Queen hasn't appeared yet, I'm not sure I agree|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|phil: yes - not much to go on otherwise|pg|| pc|hK|nt|rduran1216: another good contract|pg|| mc|9|pg||